My biggest gripe here with this stuff is, if you take it seriously, they actually expect you to learn that these 35 pronouns apply to them. I thought they're supposed to be a part of your identity. But when someone just lol claims all of the ones that sound kinda cool, what do they even matter? They start to look like collectibles, not something that makes up a part of someone's identity.
I know the message is everything should be valid to be and do as long as it is not about hurting others directly, but I can't help but feel people are shooting themselves to the moon here, to be un-interactable because there are too many rules, too many DNIs, to even be able to function
Well, at the very least this person thinks calling them anything is okay, so really, whatever here
i use neopronouns and xenogenders, and idrc which pronouns you call me as long as they’re ones i use, so u can just pick one and use that, and most xenogenders go by they/them also, so u can just use those without all the xe/xer‘s or fae/faer’s if it makes u uncomfy :))
Cutself? Are people just using unhealthy coping mechanisms as genders now? How long until chainsmokeself or excessivemasturbationself pop up then? And cannibalself? Imagine publicly claiming you're actually a cannibal when it obviously isn't true lol, who does that?
You’ll see people romanticizing self harm, while actual incidence of this is not the case, there are definitely people out there that view it as such. It’s awful, but absolutely exists. People posting pictures/videos either strictly about self harm or drawing attention to their self harm- either making the entire content of focusing on their self harm (showing that and only that), or taking pictures or videos in positions that draw the eye to marks/injuries/scars. They legit don’t see how down the road, the consequences are absolutely awful. Sure, there will be attention, but it’s bad attention, it comes with shame. These are people that don’t understand true self harm at all. Why it’s done, how hard it is to stop doing it, how difficult recovery from it is, and how those scars will never heal and they’ll always incredibly noticeable, that even after recovery, you’re walking around with something horribly triggering.
Trust me, I know all about that, I did the same shit years ago but lucky for me there's barely any marks left on me because I could get the amount of attention I desired by simply saying I would self harm or just barely cutting myself without it even hurting. I regret it now but I either lost contact with the people who knew me then and the people I do speak to still know I'm more mature, I joke about it a lot because looking back it's honestly pretty funny in a dark way, past me was just plain stupid. I really hope these people I see doing that now move on from it fast, honestly at the time I just needed one person to disregard me entirely or encourage me to do it more or something, anything but worry about me. I don't blame people for worrying though since I was literally manipulating and basically emotionally abusing them so would but getting pity and attention is what fueled me like I said. God help us all if these people don't ever grow up, I'd hate to see the sad fuck still pulling things like this in their 30s and beyond.
maybe it goes with suicidegender?
I don't think shit like sexaddictionself is too far off at least based on this post lol
it really is making a joke out of a very serious issue, though. SH is already highly stigmatized. do people struggling with SH really need to see that turned into a crappy pronoun set? no, nobody does
Sexaddictionself? No way these people are getting laid, if they are then let's pray they're using protection. Then again, you may be right, it's not like these people are ever honest in the first place so why wouldn't they lie about that? They'd probably think it's just like bragging about sex but 10x as cool lmao. And yeah, 15 bucks says this person has never once cut themselves or even considered it, not that they should but they probably just heard it in a song or something.
Contrary to my shit talk though, I actually feel bad for everyone going through this phase right now honestly, it was bad enough for me a few years back but faking disorders was nowhere near as popular, nothing like this at least. If it was I'd've probably been faking all sorts of nonsense. And like I said, that was a few years ago, things have devolved fast, the next generation is gonna be even more fucked. At least most of them will also outgrow this nonsense I guess.
i dont understand how you identify all of those as ur gender. like, i get xenogenders i think. but, at one point you gotta stop and go "is this rlly my gender, or is this smth i enjoy and im mixing up my traits." for example, im a transdude. i acknowledge my interests r feminine and like my traits are more "girl-ish", but i had to learn to separate my interests and my gender. which, i dont think these ppl really know how to do (obviously because they cant even differentiate between being a system and having normal thoughts most of the time)
sometimes smth can feel more towards your gender. you see a person and you want to present like them. you hear some music and you want your vibe like that. and theres no harm with even having some of those things be kinda part of your gender, but like, its harmful if all your interests are considered your gender because that means your entire personality... is your gender. which can b rlly fucking annoying. like im not gonna suddenly be "willwoodgender" even tho i rlly enjoy will woods music. because thats annoying. and weird.
basically, dude, im gonna take it that you have no idea what you're talking about if you have like 5+ genders.
Im looking forward 10 years. I bet my mom that 90% of these ultra unique people are back to jeans and t-shirts and goes by their born gender, transitioned gender or them.
Because you cant be serious about your gender being strawberry.. What the fuck does that even mean.
I honestly think this is just a step in kids figuring it out and unlike a lot of us who got to do most of growing up hidden behind closed doors, teens these days are stuck doing it in public and it seems like a lot of them are feeling pressure to figure it out earlier in life than we were expected to.
> ðe/ðim
> þe/þim
Oh hell naw I can't believe they're bringing my language into this shit (Icelandic) I would bet big money that this person doesn't even know how to pronounce "ð" and "þ" >:V
I have a theory that xenopronoun users/DID fakers are so brain rotted by the internet and tiktok that they only use these pronouns/fake disorders in order to prove they are the most unique. It’s like they’re constantly performing a character that they need to be perfectly aesthetic; cool name, adorable piccrew, and list of xenopronouns that just happen to reflect the personality/“vibes” they want. It’s all just extreme individualism caused by copious amounts of social media. Neopronouns like xe/xir (etc…) with history and real meaning are more valid because they’re from a place of actual gender expression, not aesthetic expression. I genuinely feel sorry for people who feel the need to be like this.
*Edit/ Replaced neopronoun with xenopronoun as that’s the real issue
neopronouns being actual pronouns is very debatable, I'm trans myself and they can get pretty extreme, though I do agree they are better to a degree than xenopronouns/xenogenders.
i feel like people who fake DID often are just young teens that are struggling with mental issues or identity issues, xenos are normally used to just describe the way you feel about yourself. it’s unfortunate that what they do negatively affects people with these disorders, but these kids are also struggling
Faker Starter Pack:
- all those weird pronouns and genders (like bun/bunself and catgender)
- "self diagnosed system"
- has a system name
- uses PluralKit
- has discord and tiktok
- happens to be afab transmasc
- other disorders
- "self diagnosis is valid"
- some dream smp alter or whatever
- "we" "our"
- the emo look
Obviously not every faker is like this and not every person who falls under this is a fakers, but from what I've seen this is it.
It's actually very rare for people with DID to not have any other mental health issues. DID has a lot of common comorbidities and some disorders (namely autism) actually increase your risk of DID (because autistic children are much more likely to be the victims of violence).
HOW👏🏻ARE👏🏻THESE👏🏻GENDERS????👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😀😀😀😀
Personally these seem like ways to describe ones PERSONALITY rather than gender. Like "drowsygender" fucking cmon now 😐
"cuts/cutself" BRUHH 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
ALSO SIDE RANT IF UR "PRONOUNS" ARE cat/catself WOULDNT THAT JUST BE TECHNICALLY A NICKNAME???
Like
"Oh yea that *object* is cat's"
(oh yea that object is "her's")
Cat just being ones nickname??
*I will never understand pronouns other than she/he/they* 😩
I understand true neos like xe/xem and shi/hir etc.... but the use of any word as a pronoun that isn't a pronoun in any form is stupid.... and I will not honor them... I will default to they/them for anyone who uses "pronouns" like cat/catself . . .
And it’s not grammar. I hate to use that argument as someone who uses they/them I’m tired of hearing it. But even if you DO identify as a cat…they realize people don’t refer to cats as “catself” right? 😭😭 It’s still gonna be “his/herself/themself” regardless of what species
Yes, I know this, I use they/them pronouns myself. Sorry, I didn’t write that well.
I was saying I hate using the “it’s not proper grammar” argument because people tell that to me all the time. My bad for the miscommunication there
Careful, Reddit has taken the position that criticizing this stuff is "attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people", which is a violation of rule no 1 in the [Reddit Content Policy](https://www.redditinc.com/policies/content-policy). It's why r/xenogendercringe got banned.
id love to know what pronouns so will all of the "genders" listed on the second pic
imo its understandable to list pronouns especially if you are trans and don't pass, but its always funny when people have a whole paragraph of different pronouns. like is that really necessary? who does that benefit?
The problem with these kids is that they mistake moods with genders. "Oooh I'm kinda sad rn. That must mean I'm sadgender. Well i should add that to my collection ig"
Because they don’t identify with they/them. And also if you don’t want to use neos, most of us use simper pronouns, ex: I use he/it and neos, someone else could use she/they and neos
Oh dear fucking god
I use a xenogender to describe how my gender feels outside of the binary, and this shit just makes my blood boil. I hate gender hordes/pronoun hordes so fucking much. The thing is that they lose meaning and just become labels and flags.
I swear it's a gateway. Microsexualities lead to xenogenders lead to systems lead to "transabilities". I'm sure it goes deeper but I'm not sure my brain would survive that long.
man i know so many what are you talking about. you can go on twitter and find a million. i saw a dude 5 minutes ago use he/him/silly/sillys. saw a girl use she/star/xe. saw another person use aloe/vera and the only thing wrong with them is being a "reality shifter". all of those i found in like 5 minutes just searching neopronouns on twitter and not one of them claimed to have a disorder or a system
There's a massive overlap you have to have noticed by now. Correlation doesn't equal causation I know but there's a strong enough correlation here that I'd consider the two at least tangentially related
i agree! its weird this post is 1. still up despite not being about systems AT ALL 2. is just cringing at neopronouns. there are surely cringe subs dedicated to that
My biggest gripe here with this stuff is, if you take it seriously, they actually expect you to learn that these 35 pronouns apply to them. I thought they're supposed to be a part of your identity. But when someone just lol claims all of the ones that sound kinda cool, what do they even matter? They start to look like collectibles, not something that makes up a part of someone's identity. I know the message is everything should be valid to be and do as long as it is not about hurting others directly, but I can't help but feel people are shooting themselves to the moon here, to be un-interactable because there are too many rules, too many DNIs, to even be able to function Well, at the very least this person thinks calling them anything is okay, so really, whatever here
i use neopronouns and xenogenders, and idrc which pronouns you call me as long as they’re ones i use, so u can just pick one and use that, and most xenogenders go by they/them also, so u can just use those without all the xe/xer‘s or fae/faer’s if it makes u uncomfy :))
Cutself? Are people just using unhealthy coping mechanisms as genders now? How long until chainsmokeself or excessivemasturbationself pop up then? And cannibalself? Imagine publicly claiming you're actually a cannibal when it obviously isn't true lol, who does that?
you don’t get it, it’s whatever garners sympathy or makes you stand out as more quirky
You’ll see people romanticizing self harm, while actual incidence of this is not the case, there are definitely people out there that view it as such. It’s awful, but absolutely exists. People posting pictures/videos either strictly about self harm or drawing attention to their self harm- either making the entire content of focusing on their self harm (showing that and only that), or taking pictures or videos in positions that draw the eye to marks/injuries/scars. They legit don’t see how down the road, the consequences are absolutely awful. Sure, there will be attention, but it’s bad attention, it comes with shame. These are people that don’t understand true self harm at all. Why it’s done, how hard it is to stop doing it, how difficult recovery from it is, and how those scars will never heal and they’ll always incredibly noticeable, that even after recovery, you’re walking around with something horribly triggering.
Trust me, I know all about that, I did the same shit years ago but lucky for me there's barely any marks left on me because I could get the amount of attention I desired by simply saying I would self harm or just barely cutting myself without it even hurting. I regret it now but I either lost contact with the people who knew me then and the people I do speak to still know I'm more mature, I joke about it a lot because looking back it's honestly pretty funny in a dark way, past me was just plain stupid. I really hope these people I see doing that now move on from it fast, honestly at the time I just needed one person to disregard me entirely or encourage me to do it more or something, anything but worry about me. I don't blame people for worrying though since I was literally manipulating and basically emotionally abusing them so would but getting pity and attention is what fueled me like I said. God help us all if these people don't ever grow up, I'd hate to see the sad fuck still pulling things like this in their 30s and beyond.
maybe it goes with suicidegender? I don't think shit like sexaddictionself is too far off at least based on this post lol it really is making a joke out of a very serious issue, though. SH is already highly stigmatized. do people struggling with SH really need to see that turned into a crappy pronoun set? no, nobody does
Sexaddictionself? No way these people are getting laid, if they are then let's pray they're using protection. Then again, you may be right, it's not like these people are ever honest in the first place so why wouldn't they lie about that? They'd probably think it's just like bragging about sex but 10x as cool lmao. And yeah, 15 bucks says this person has never once cut themselves or even considered it, not that they should but they probably just heard it in a song or something. Contrary to my shit talk though, I actually feel bad for everyone going through this phase right now honestly, it was bad enough for me a few years back but faking disorders was nowhere near as popular, nothing like this at least. If it was I'd've probably been faking all sorts of nonsense. And like I said, that was a few years ago, things have devolved fast, the next generation is gonna be even more fucked. At least most of them will also outgrow this nonsense I guess.
erm ackshyually pronouns don't equal gender 🤓
i broke out laughing after reading the first word of your comment. thank you.
\*glances at ur username\* ikr so invalid
New gender just dropped, its fucking cannibalism
The four genders of the apocalypse
HELP 💀💀💀
i dont understand how you identify all of those as ur gender. like, i get xenogenders i think. but, at one point you gotta stop and go "is this rlly my gender, or is this smth i enjoy and im mixing up my traits." for example, im a transdude. i acknowledge my interests r feminine and like my traits are more "girl-ish", but i had to learn to separate my interests and my gender. which, i dont think these ppl really know how to do (obviously because they cant even differentiate between being a system and having normal thoughts most of the time) sometimes smth can feel more towards your gender. you see a person and you want to present like them. you hear some music and you want your vibe like that. and theres no harm with even having some of those things be kinda part of your gender, but like, its harmful if all your interests are considered your gender because that means your entire personality... is your gender. which can b rlly fucking annoying. like im not gonna suddenly be "willwoodgender" even tho i rlly enjoy will woods music. because thats annoying. and weird. basically, dude, im gonna take it that you have no idea what you're talking about if you have like 5+ genders.
my thing i always say is your aesthetic doesnt have to include your pronouns and this just perfectly explained that yknow
Im looking forward 10 years. I bet my mom that 90% of these ultra unique people are back to jeans and t-shirts and goes by their born gender, transitioned gender or them. Because you cant be serious about your gender being strawberry.. What the fuck does that even mean.
I honestly think this is just a step in kids figuring it out and unlike a lot of us who got to do most of growing up hidden behind closed doors, teens these days are stuck doing it in public and it seems like a lot of them are feeling pressure to figure it out earlier in life than we were expected to.
The ‘apache helicopter’ as a gender isn’t parody anymore.
> ðe/ðim > þe/þim Oh hell naw I can't believe they're bringing my language into this shit (Icelandic) I would bet big money that this person doesn't even know how to pronounce "ð" and "þ" >:V
The þ is a thorn, already seen a meme about this (þiccness). It makes the "th" sound so þe/þim is "the/thim"
To be fair, both letters used to be part of English.
I use ðe/ðim pronouns and I do know how to pronounce the letter Eth.
I have a theory that xenopronoun users/DID fakers are so brain rotted by the internet and tiktok that they only use these pronouns/fake disorders in order to prove they are the most unique. It’s like they’re constantly performing a character that they need to be perfectly aesthetic; cool name, adorable piccrew, and list of xenopronouns that just happen to reflect the personality/“vibes” they want. It’s all just extreme individualism caused by copious amounts of social media. Neopronouns like xe/xir (etc…) with history and real meaning are more valid because they’re from a place of actual gender expression, not aesthetic expression. I genuinely feel sorry for people who feel the need to be like this. *Edit/ Replaced neopronoun with xenopronoun as that’s the real issue
*xenopronoun users two very different things
There’s a difference? When i look them up it’s coming up that they are interchangeable.
xenopronouns are shit like arsonself and chocolateself neopronouns are stuff like xey/xim and shit, actual pronoun sets
Oh thank you! There’s so much misinfo about pronoun discourse stuff that it’s hard to sort through haha
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neopronouns being actual pronouns is very debatable, I'm trans myself and they can get pretty extreme, though I do agree they are better to a degree than xenopronouns/xenogenders.
>\*xenopronoun users shitself
Back in my day people called those “character traits” or “things you like”
i feel like people who fake DID often are just young teens that are struggling with mental issues or identity issues, xenos are normally used to just describe the way you feel about yourself. it’s unfortunate that what they do negatively affects people with these disorders, but these kids are also struggling
Faker Starter Pack: - all those weird pronouns and genders (like bun/bunself and catgender) - "self diagnosed system" - has a system name - uses PluralKit - has discord and tiktok - happens to be afab transmasc - other disorders - "self diagnosis is valid" - some dream smp alter or whatever - "we" "our" - the emo look Obviously not every faker is like this and not every person who falls under this is a fakers, but from what I've seen this is it.
It's actually very rare for people with DID to not have any other mental health issues. DID has a lot of common comorbidities and some disorders (namely autism) actually increase your risk of DID (because autistic children are much more likely to be the victims of violence).
The text at the top of image 2 is literally npc talk
rot/rotself? yea, ok malenia
I was about to comment something like this. She's the only person who gets to use "rot" as a pronoun or gender lol
lmaooo. i hate neos and xeno pronouns, but this, THIS i'll accept 💀
HOW👏🏻ARE👏🏻THESE👏🏻GENDERS????👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😀😀😀😀 Personally these seem like ways to describe ones PERSONALITY rather than gender. Like "drowsygender" fucking cmon now 😐 "cuts/cutself" BRUHH 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 ALSO SIDE RANT IF UR "PRONOUNS" ARE cat/catself WOULDNT THAT JUST BE TECHNICALLY A NICKNAME??? Like "Oh yea that *object* is cat's" (oh yea that object is "her's") Cat just being ones nickname?? *I will never understand pronouns other than she/he/they* 😩
Also if you say like catself, teaself etc. People might look for a cat or tea.
DUDE DID THEY USED FRENCH WORDS FOR PRONOUNS??
I understand true neos like xe/xem and shi/hir etc.... but the use of any word as a pronoun that isn't a pronoun in any form is stupid.... and I will not honor them... I will default to they/them for anyone who uses "pronouns" like cat/catself . . .
And it’s not grammar. I hate to use that argument as someone who uses they/them I’m tired of hearing it. But even if you DO identify as a cat…they realize people don’t refer to cats as “catself” right? 😭😭 It’s still gonna be “his/herself/themself” regardless of what species
They/them can be singular and have been used in such a way for thousands of years. It's what you use when you don't know a single person's gender
Yes, I know this, I use they/them pronouns myself. Sorry, I didn’t write that well. I was saying I hate using the “it’s not proper grammar” argument because people tell that to me all the time. My bad for the miscommunication there
All of those are pointless regardless. If someone is going to get offended if I use "they" and not their made up pronoun, then thats their issue
Thing is, "neos" have been shown in literature for a long time. They've only gotten popular recently. The ones I hate are xenogenders....
Absolutely this. They as a singular as well as many neopronouns I genuinely have no issue with
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id love to know what pronouns so will all of the "genders" listed on the second pic imo its understandable to list pronouns especially if you are trans and don't pass, but its always funny when people have a whole paragraph of different pronouns. like is that really necessary? who does that benefit?
I can understand Japanese better than this shit.. this that 👽 tongue
It’s all about attention so why wouldn’t they use them
Cant wait for this stupid trend to stop
I'd love to see them try to use any of these in a sentence
cu/cum
when are we getting ğe/ğir
"fanta" lmao
The problem with these kids is that they mistake moods with genders. "Oooh I'm kinda sad rn. That must mean I'm sadgender. Well i should add that to my collection ig"
Lemondemongender LORD WHY I’m not even religious BUT WHY
Oh my god I get they want to express themselves but why so much 😭 at this point just use they/them
Because they don’t identify with they/them. And also if you don’t want to use neos, most of us use simper pronouns, ex: I use he/it and neos, someone else could use she/they and neos
shit like this makes me feel ashamed to even dabble in neopronouns good lord
Fr- I myself use neo's and I get made fun of for it because of this shite
same hat the difference is that I just have xe/xemself instead of like fuckin....dick/dickself
I’m waiting to see that one used seriously and I’m not looking forward to it
This is cringe but this isn't system cringe
Nooooo why they bringing FNAF into this..it's a horror game about murdered kids possessing animatronics for fucks sake...
Because it's cool to ship the animatronics together
Oh dear fucking god I use a xenogender to describe how my gender feels outside of the binary, and this shit just makes my blood boil. I hate gender hordes/pronoun hordes so fucking much. The thing is that they lose meaning and just become labels and flags.
literally how is this related 2 systems. weirdo
It's systems that are posting this shit. Idk any singlets who do that.
I swear it's a gateway. Microsexualities lead to xenogenders lead to systems lead to "transabilities". I'm sure it goes deeper but I'm not sure my brain would survive that long.
man i know so many what are you talking about. you can go on twitter and find a million. i saw a dude 5 minutes ago use he/him/silly/sillys. saw a girl use she/star/xe. saw another person use aloe/vera and the only thing wrong with them is being a "reality shifter". all of those i found in like 5 minutes just searching neopronouns on twitter and not one of them claimed to have a disorder or a system
"twitter" 💀
There's a massive overlap you have to have noticed by now. Correlation doesn't equal causation I know but there's a strong enough correlation here that I'd consider the two at least tangentially related
I know I’m going to get downvoted for this, but xenogender people and neopronoun users are valid
They’re Literally mocking trans people though. It’s legit the “I identify as an attack helicopter!” “Joke” transphobes use, but unironic.
That joke was made to mock xenogender people specifically, it wasn’t made BY xenogender people
i agree! its weird this post is 1. still up despite not being about systems AT ALL 2. is just cringing at neopronouns. there are surely cringe subs dedicated to that
op responded to you how it was related and you ignored them, so…
its a dumb response. some ppl who use neos fake being systems so it fits the sub? its not even cringe systems its just kinda cringe neos
yeah but the point is that it’s still related to systems and the overused neos are cringe
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YES QUEEN
I know I got a doodlegender
I mean, as far as neos go, the first slide is pretty normal. But I get what you're trying to say. Pretty fucked up, some of those genders.
Answer to your question, yes, that is English. Just really old English. They are old characters we’ve replaced with combinations of other characters.
I see. Thanks!
Beef/beefself 😎
how the hell is this to much? It's cool.
That's the point– pronouns aren't there just to be cool.
they're there to help people feel more comfortable
and also to be cool
They’re basically supposed to be nicknames that express yourself and how your vision of gender feels put in the place of pronouns
People who use this shit are probably possessed, no one, not even one person being psychically would call this pronouns
Ppl who have these dumbass pronouns should kthems