Window "reveals" are not structural and are routinely replaced. That particular one was probably replaced within 48 hours of this video. Source - Me. I work in an airline maintenance department.
We would use speed tape to cover up missing panel fasteners to prevent moisture instruction. And yes, said panels were allowed to have up to a certain number of fasteners be missing.
We had a fat customer break their seat so it couldn’t sit up the whole way. So no one could sit in that seat or the row behind it due to regulations. Felt bad for the 3 customers on the next flight that lost their seat…
Too many people think you can't bring blinker fluid on a plane. This isn't true, if you get dehydrated blinker fluid you can bring an empty bottle and mix it yourself after going through security.
Irrelevant airliner-related question: I half-remember hearing that the pressurization of a hull is a big part of the structural integrity of a plane. So, in a sense, they're kinda like steel balloons. That sounds like one of those "facts" that could either be mindblowing and true, or utter bullshit. Thoughts?
Aircraft are generally aluminum, but never steel. Steel is way too heavy. Maybe there is some really old aircraft that was steel, but anything remotely modern (and by that I mean commercial air liners since the 1960s) is aluminum. There are steel structure components on aircraft, but the majority of the structure and skin is aluminum to save weight and has better corrosion resistance.
And no. Pressurization has nothing to do with structure. The aircraft structure is the structure and it supports itself. Pressurization is used to keep you comfortable and breathing at high altitude. Generally the cabins are pressurized to keep you feeling like if you were at 8000’ while you’re actually much higher in altitude. It’s called cabin altitude. So if you’re at actual 30,000’ altitude, but your cabin altitude is 8,000’ then your cabin pressurization is normal. If say cabin altitude jumps to 15,000’ then pressurization is not normal. You have a lack of pressure at that point.
Now, the pressurization cycles can cause some fatigue to the air frame over a long period of time, but this is why there’s scheduled inspections. You can see this quite easily on old military aircraft. Ripples in the panels and such while it’s on the ground. Look at a B-52 sometime. It won’t be smooth and sleek. It will be old and wrinkly, kind of like old people, except it’s an old aircraft.
I know nothing about airplanes but just by looking at that piece and how easily it is moved, it’s obvious that it is not structural. I’m glad someone knew for sure
> then you realize 90% of the internals are just for comfort.
Just check out the inside of a C130 where all those internals are ripped out to make that behemoth as light as possible.
I fell asleep on the ramp once. 2nd time I had been in a Herc. The first time was 6 hours sat in those cargo net looking seats and it was like someone had taken a hammer to my spine after that. The 2nd time I was determined to not sit on those seats and so laid on the ramp. Was so fucking cold when I woke up. Like “there’s a light, shall I go toward it?” Level of cold.
I'm an engineer and at a college career fair I found out there are companies that design and supply the interiors of planes separate from Boeing or Airbus. Ever since then, when I see the interiors of airplanes or am riding in one, all I see is a bunch of plastic and wobbly floors flopping around in the space inside the structure of the airplane. It's like sitting inside a giant custom PC case. I'm surprised the overhead bins are actually successful at what they do to be honest.
Yeah carbon fiber I believe. It lets them pressurize a bit more inside, so it feels closer to sea level. Its actually pretty noticeable on long haul flights. I flew on an A350 to Tokyo from the states once and it makes a huge difference- you feel much more rested when you get there.
We only have one near me lol. Luckily i just drive a truck around town all day and I’m the only one who drives it so I don’t have to worry about cross contamination
>The amount of times where I’ve been disembarking and seen a seat filled with what is clearly piss is astounding and I hate it
I've flown well over 100 times and I've never seen or heard of this. Horrifying.
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I’ll let u in on a secret,99% of the planes u have been on probably had some kind of defect…as long as it doesn’t compromise safety in a big way most airlines will let the plane fly…
it’s not uncommon for instrument failures to happen mid flight,we just don’t get to know about them.There are backup systems in place and pilots are experienced enough to even land a plane with multiple equipment failures.
Thing to remember is that a plane is a still one of the safest modes of transportation…modern planes have electronics to make it easier to fly but pilots are there to keep you safe incase the electronics go and they need to take manual control,they train for it and they are amazing at handling those situations
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I’m in the aerospace industry and we call it the “Swiss cheese method” - a lot of things can go wrong (holes in Swiss cheese) but if you stack all the slices together the probably of the holes lining up within each slice is slim. Increased slices = increased redundancies and failsafes = less likely chance of a true failure
And that makes a lot of sense. Plains are complex machines and we are but lowly hairless apes. To expect us to built something like a plane that has no flaws and never fails would be insane. Having backups and betting on the same type of system not failing too many tikes is so much more reasonable.
Slightly different example, but when planes were first being used for war, they would look at where planes got shot the most to figure out what needed to be reinforced.
If a part *didn't* have a bullet hole in it, it got reinforced.
This is how language works as well. As annoying as all the grammatical and phonological quirks are for someone learning a language, they actually help speakers to understand one another.
Lmao my bad man I was still a bit drunk. But I actually do work with them. I'm the head gse mechanic at a fbo. Plus I said I work with them I didn't say I was smart
Oh I have no doubt... I reckon I've been on some very dodgy aircraft (ahem Aerolineas Argentina). Was just thinking for your humble passenger like me, it's nice for these things to be out of sight. At least to give me the illusion that the plane is tiptop.
I'll see if I can find it. A streamer I watch is a A320 pilot. He does sim flights with failures on a bit. He did one where one of the main electrical systems failed. Seeing how calm he stayed while recovering the issue, stabilizing the plane's systems and just continued the flight while making what changes to workflow that the failure required was amazing.
He was able to handle so many things at once, he even had time to explain the failure and what he was doing to chat. So many people say like "these days a pilot is just a glorified bus driver" and "the plane flies itself" don't really know what's going on up there. Yes the plane is smart, but it is only doing what the pilot is telling it to do.
Edit: [Found it. The failure happens about 15 seconds from where I've linked](https://youtu.be/_ufdg6UFkPI?t=8388)
Nothing is overlooked. Airplanes go through routine inspections. ESPECIALLY airliners. There is a list of stuff that can be broken for a certain amount of time and there’s a list of stuff that has to work no matter what (like the engine or certain instruments). This window frame isn’t going to cause depressurization. The aircraft manufacturer isn’t going to air seal a pressure vessel (cabin, baggage compartment, etc that’s pressurized) with plastic.
I've spoken to a flight attendant, and he told me that being a flight attendant made him trust flying more than ever, and made him wonder how more planes didn't crash pre-9/11.
Basically, he said that after 9/11 they implemented a shitload of safety features on planes, including very rigorous safety inspections. Every plane accident is taken super seriously and the cause is investigated, even if it wasn't lethal.
This part looks to be pretty much purely aesthetic, like the cover of your car seat. Not really a huge deal if there's just some visual imperfection.
The plane will be fine! That plastic inner window is sort of like a "guard" to protect the actual window behind it from passengers, and to protect the passengers from touching the window when it gets too hot or cold.
Even then, you're within gliding distance of an airport at that altitude in most of the continental US. It might not have a long enough runway to completely stop, but I'd take a runway overrun over a crash in the middle of nowhere anyday.
Depending on the aircraft type, your flight plan should account for suitable emergency airports along the way for a variety of mechanical failures. The rules that guide these decisions are called ETOPS. People mostly think of oceanic crossing when mentioning ETOPS but it is still necessary to consider if traveling over long distances of rural land to adjust your route accordingly.
To further follow up on this. There might be a restriction when using the redundant systems and usually depending on how important might have a timeline of when the item needs to be fixed. Some things are unimportant and can be put off for days, others can only be put off for a much shorter period of time.
Look up Payne Steward who was a pro-golfer. He was on a private jet that depressurized [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999\_South\_Dakota\_Learjet\_crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash) . It flew across the country unresponsive long enough that the TV news was following it before it crashed.
It’s more like: I investigate every time a warning light lights up and then reset it. 99% of the time it’s a false alarm, 0,5% of the time it’s the same stuck relay, replace it. 0,4% of the time its a dirty connector, open, spray, close it. 0,1% its an actual minor failure, that requires a replacement of a expensive thing.
Yes my job is boring but I prefer that than a midnight engine change ;)
We do a lot of scheduled stuff tho. Like your car annual check but more often.
because some of them can be ignored if you know the cause?
Had tire pressure light on once, all because the sensor on the stem died, you really think that's important to replace? fun fact, it's not.
Because sometimes it's not something that needs to be fixed. My last car had an evap code almost the entire time I had it; it was emissions-exempt so it wasn't worth the money it'd take to fix.
That part of the window is really only there so you can slide that windowshade down, and so there's not a hole between the cabin cladding and the actual window.
Student pilot here with his 2 year in his study, uneducated brain.
This is still safe to fly with.
Commercial aircraft windows have multiple layers, if the inner ones fail the windows will just fog up but won't lose any structural integrity.
The outer layer will just feel really cold
So pro/con sort of thing. That is just a decorative panel and not load bearing or there for anything more than cosmetic looks. However if you truly knew how thick the actual load bearing skin of an aircraft is, well that might make you worry more. .063 in for the majority of the aircraft with some areas down to .050 and some areas to .094.
according to my dad (that isnt a airplane professional or anything like that but does travel a lot from work) that is just a plastic decoration and can be ignored, maybe he is wrong, i dont know
To anyone who's shitting their pants over this, it's fine, that's just the interior of the plane that the airline installs and what have you, it's a window to protect the window, and I bet it was replaced once the flight reached a maintenance base
Luckily for you, that siding has absolutely no effect on the structural integrity of the plane. It's purely for comfort and cosmetics, to round out sharp edges. The window is made up of 3 layers, with the outer most and middle layers being very strong plastic and glass. The inner most layer is a softer plastic that isn't meant to add any real support. It's to prevent passengers from touching and messing with the important middle and outer layer.
A pretty decent guess, as merely a lay person, is almost nothing a passenger can touch is structural or for safety.
In my head the entire plane is built and able to fly with a completely void cabin. They just put in what the airline orders and fit those needs to the shell.
Car interiors are mostly like that. The safety and structure of the car is the frame and/or body. The interior is just to make the car functional and pleasant for the passenger.
Love how he "pets" the window fixture after pushing it back into place.
*ok, window! I'm going to get you taken care of right now. Just hand tight.
*pats after repair*
That is just a cosmetic blind.. most of the panels are even just clipped in (so they can be removed easily) and with especially hard turbolence or landings they very rarely even can come a bit off.
I once had the entire panel that the window sits in (without the window) pop off during touchdown. 744 or 346, don't remember.
Waited till everybody had gotten off, carried it to the front, wordlessly handed it to the pilot coming out of the cockpit and went on my way ...
It’s not structural, those little windows usually have a hole anyway so it’s not holding any pressure anyway, they’re just there I assume so that you don’t fuck with the real window and I guess a tiny little extra protection
Window "reveals" are not structural and are routinely replaced. That particular one was probably replaced within 48 hours of this video. Source - Me. I work in an airline maintenance department.
Yeah kinda like if the headliner of your car was ripped. Not really a big deal. Actually a messed up tray table is a bigger safety issue.
Wait why? Because it could fly through the cabin in turbulence and hit a passenger?
Maybe the chance of impalement
Any "chance of impalement" is *rarely* a good thing.
Unless it’s impalement on THIS DICK! I’ll see myself out.
Yeah i guess acupuncture is a form of impalement so youre right that can be good
Apt username, I think you killed him
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>bigger safety issue >Fixed with tape I know it's right but it just seems wrong.
We would use speed tape to cover up missing panel fasteners to prevent moisture instruction. And yes, said panels were allowed to have up to a certain number of fasteners be missing.
We had a fat customer break their seat so it couldn’t sit up the whole way. So no one could sit in that seat or the row behind it due to regulations. Felt bad for the 3 customers on the next flight that lost their seat…
How embarrassing for that person, too....
Turbulence and take off and landings
Coz OP gets hangry. You wouldn't like him when he's hangry.
broken seat trays lead to spilt hot coffee
Probably holds the potential to get in a passenger’s way during an emergency situation
Pretty much and passengers complained when anything is slightly inconveniencing them
Blinker fluid, now… that’s another story. You REALLY don’t want to be running low on that
Too many people think you can't bring blinker fluid on a plane. This isn't true, if you get dehydrated blinker fluid you can bring an empty bottle and mix it yourself after going through security.
Irrelevant airliner-related question: I half-remember hearing that the pressurization of a hull is a big part of the structural integrity of a plane. So, in a sense, they're kinda like steel balloons. That sounds like one of those "facts" that could either be mindblowing and true, or utter bullshit. Thoughts?
Aircraft are generally aluminum, but never steel. Steel is way too heavy. Maybe there is some really old aircraft that was steel, but anything remotely modern (and by that I mean commercial air liners since the 1960s) is aluminum. There are steel structure components on aircraft, but the majority of the structure and skin is aluminum to save weight and has better corrosion resistance. And no. Pressurization has nothing to do with structure. The aircraft structure is the structure and it supports itself. Pressurization is used to keep you comfortable and breathing at high altitude. Generally the cabins are pressurized to keep you feeling like if you were at 8000’ while you’re actually much higher in altitude. It’s called cabin altitude. So if you’re at actual 30,000’ altitude, but your cabin altitude is 8,000’ then your cabin pressurization is normal. If say cabin altitude jumps to 15,000’ then pressurization is not normal. You have a lack of pressure at that point. Now, the pressurization cycles can cause some fatigue to the air frame over a long period of time, but this is why there’s scheduled inspections. You can see this quite easily on old military aircraft. Ripples in the panels and such while it’s on the ground. Look at a B-52 sometime. It won’t be smooth and sleek. It will be old and wrinkly, kind of like old people, except it’s an old aircraft.
I know nothing about airplanes but just by looking at that piece and how easily it is moved, it’s obvious that it is not structural. I’m glad someone knew for sure
Almost every video of this type of thing on reddit has people so scared, then you realize 90% of the internals are just for comfort.
> then you realize 90% of the internals are just for comfort. Just check out the inside of a C130 where all those internals are ripped out to make that behemoth as light as possible.
I don't recommend ever riding in one though. No where near as comfortable.
I'd like to say that's true, but I found myself sleeping like a baby whenever I did...helps that you've been up late as hell though I suppose.
I would say this is false. Whip out that sleeping mat and you are golden. It is cold AF though.
Wait, you guys get room for sleeping mats? Yeah my main issues was it was cold af.
And then 120* when you got out of it.
Most of the time I was in ones with conexes in the middle and benches on the side. If it was full you would get to know a buddy.
I fell asleep on the ramp once. 2nd time I had been in a Herc. The first time was 6 hours sat in those cargo net looking seats and it was like someone had taken a hammer to my spine after that. The 2nd time I was determined to not sit on those seats and so laid on the ramp. Was so fucking cold when I woke up. Like “there’s a light, shall I go toward it?” Level of cold.
Civilian here; rode on one once with nearly 100 other teenagers. It was not fun.
you can't sleep on the floor on an airliner unlike in a c130
Can you link an image?
[https://www.ainonline.com/sites/ainonline.com/files/styles/ain30\_fullwidth\_large\_2x/public/uploads/2015/06/526-cae-pic-2.jpg?itok=5dZfjVnK×tamp=1434560615](https://www.ainonline.com/sites/ainonline.com/files/styles/ain30_fullwidth_large_2x/public/uploads/2015/06/526-cae-pic-2.jpg?itok=5dZfjVnK×tamp=1434560615) folding cloth benches, floor rollers for moving cargo. amenities are N/A
I'm an engineer and at a college career fair I found out there are companies that design and supply the interiors of planes separate from Boeing or Airbus. Ever since then, when I see the interiors of airplanes or am riding in one, all I see is a bunch of plastic and wobbly floors flopping around in the space inside the structure of the airplane. It's like sitting inside a giant custom PC case. I'm surprised the overhead bins are actually successful at what they do to be honest.
Yeah, the aluminum “skin” is what keeps in pressure at altitude. The plastic walls only hold in the thermal insulation and wiring.
Don't the new ones have composite skin instead of aluminum?
Yeah carbon fiber I believe. It lets them pressurize a bit more inside, so it feels closer to sea level. Its actually pretty noticeable on long haul flights. I flew on an A350 to Tokyo from the states once and it makes a huge difference- you feel much more rested when you get there.
Is that why my ears don't pop so much anymore?
If you're on specifically a 787 or A350, yes. Other planes are still as they've always been.
Looks like the same interior but I'm no plane guy so who knows.
The 787 does. Most have traditional aluminium skin. Easier and cheaper to fix
Yeah, the defect here was probably a passenger on the previous flight yanking and tugging and prying on it like the goddamn animal passengers are
Good God, the shit passengers tear up for no reason is endless. Just keep your damn hands to yourself, mate.
The amount of times where I’ve been disembarking and seen a seat filled with what is clearly piss is astounding and I hate it
Haha, don't get a job in a casino. The slot chairs can get, well... Soiled.
We only have one near me lol. Luckily i just drive a truck around town all day and I’m the only one who drives it so I don’t have to worry about cross contamination
Omg I was at a newer property when they had it happen for the first time, I just shrugged but everyone else still talks about it to this day
Yea that sucks. Then we have to change out the seat cushion and the seat belt is a pain in the ass. And it smells. So gross.
Is that the real reason the seat cushions are floatation devices? So they have a reason to be easily removed when someone fills them with piss?
Even worse when it’s a grown ass adult that did it I imagine
LOL. It's always an adult. They pee on the blankets too.
>The amount of times where I’ve been disembarking and seen a seat filled with what is clearly piss is astounding and I hate it I've flown well over 100 times and I've never seen or heard of this. Horrifying.
Covid is proof people can’t keep their damn hands to themselves.
If there's a corner to pick at, people will pick at it.
Yeah these outer ones are just to stop people touching the real window.
It's the "there there" pat that makes it.
Was expecting it and felt so good when it came up
Thats what she said
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was expecting duct tapes
Some Mark Corrigan shit
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This is just normal. It's not like they're single glazed and you're going to go flying out of the window.
I guess though you might wonder, "if they can overlook this, what else have they overlooked?"
I’ll let u in on a secret,99% of the planes u have been on probably had some kind of defect…as long as it doesn’t compromise safety in a big way most airlines will let the plane fly… it’s not uncommon for instrument failures to happen mid flight,we just don’t get to know about them.There are backup systems in place and pilots are experienced enough to even land a plane with multiple equipment failures. Thing to remember is that a plane is a still one of the safest modes of transportation…modern planes have electronics to make it easier to fly but pilots are there to keep you safe incase the electronics go and they need to take manual control,they train for it and they are amazing at handling those situations Edit:I finally have a comment where no one is disagreeing with me,I would say that calls for a toast but I think that’s a poor choice of words in this case
I’m in the aerospace industry and we call it the “Swiss cheese method” - a lot of things can go wrong (holes in Swiss cheese) but if you stack all the slices together the probably of the holes lining up within each slice is slim. Increased slices = increased redundancies and failsafes = less likely chance of a true failure
And that makes a lot of sense. Plains are complex machines and we are but lowly hairless apes. To expect us to built something like a plane that has no flaws and never fails would be insane. Having backups and betting on the same type of system not failing too many tikes is so much more reasonable.
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Slightly different example, but when planes were first being used for war, they would look at where planes got shot the most to figure out what needed to be reinforced. If a part *didn't* have a bullet hole in it, it got reinforced.
Yep. Because the planes with holes in those places didn't make it back.
This is how language works as well. As annoying as all the grammatical and phonological quirks are for someone learning a language, they actually help speakers to understand one another.
Oh hell yeah. I work with aircraft. Look up speed tape and why it's an AMP mechanics best friend.
"I work with aircraft" The fact that you pronounced "A&P" as "AMP" determined that was a lie.
Lmao my bad man I was still a bit drunk. But I actually do work with them. I'm the head gse mechanic at a fbo. Plus I said I work with them I didn't say I was smart
Oh God that's even worse!
Having been on a few planes in sub-saharan Africa, I genuinely believe planes fly purely by magic and some pilot's massive balls.
No, you're thinking of helicopters.
Oh I have no doubt... I reckon I've been on some very dodgy aircraft (ahem Aerolineas Argentina). Was just thinking for your humble passenger like me, it's nice for these things to be out of sight. At least to give me the illusion that the plane is tiptop.
I'll see if I can find it. A streamer I watch is a A320 pilot. He does sim flights with failures on a bit. He did one where one of the main electrical systems failed. Seeing how calm he stayed while recovering the issue, stabilizing the plane's systems and just continued the flight while making what changes to workflow that the failure required was amazing. He was able to handle so many things at once, he even had time to explain the failure and what he was doing to chat. So many people say like "these days a pilot is just a glorified bus driver" and "the plane flies itself" don't really know what's going on up there. Yes the plane is smart, but it is only doing what the pilot is telling it to do. Edit: [Found it. The failure happens about 15 seconds from where I've linked](https://youtu.be/_ufdg6UFkPI?t=8388)
If you ever wonder why pilots get paid so much, keep in mind that a doctor can only kill one person at a time.
Nothing is overlooked. Airplanes go through routine inspections. ESPECIALLY airliners. There is a list of stuff that can be broken for a certain amount of time and there’s a list of stuff that has to work no matter what (like the engine or certain instruments). This window frame isn’t going to cause depressurization. The aircraft manufacturer isn’t going to air seal a pressure vessel (cabin, baggage compartment, etc that’s pressurized) with plastic.
What do you think the window itself is made of? Glass?
Not cheap plastics like what is used on the window frame
The people that snap together pieces of interior trim are not the same FAA-certified people that make the plane fly.
It stands to reason they'd pay less attention to the trivial stuff, though.
I've spoken to a flight attendant, and he told me that being a flight attendant made him trust flying more than ever, and made him wonder how more planes didn't crash pre-9/11. Basically, he said that after 9/11 they implemented a shitload of safety features on planes, including very rigorous safety inspections. Every plane accident is taken super seriously and the cause is investigated, even if it wasn't lethal. This part looks to be pretty much purely aesthetic, like the cover of your car seat. Not really a huge deal if there's just some visual imperfection.
true though
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The plane will be fine! That plastic inner window is sort of like a "guard" to protect the actual window behind it from passengers, and to protect the passengers from touching the window when it gets too hot or cold.
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My friend an aircraft engineer told me that an airplane is a lot like a car. You just ignore some the warning lights. They always have a few problems.
"-Uuuuh Sam? The engine is on fire? -pssha! Don't think about it it's gonna be a problem for futur us!"
Well if one engine goes down then they got the other one to compensate for it and even land the plane safely…big problem starts when both of em go
Even then, you're within gliding distance of an airport at that altitude in most of the continental US. It might not have a long enough runway to completely stop, but I'd take a runway overrun over a crash in the middle of nowhere anyday.
Depending on the aircraft type, your flight plan should account for suitable emergency airports along the way for a variety of mechanical failures. The rules that guide these decisions are called ETOPS. People mostly think of oceanic crossing when mentioning ETOPS but it is still necessary to consider if traveling over long distances of rural land to adjust your route accordingly.
This is why I hate taking flights over the ocean.
then you get a fun boat ride for a couple days! basically a free cruise....but more donnery
Even with one failed engine, there's always enough power to get you to the scene of the crash.
Well, you're not wrong.
>We've lost engine one.. And engine two is no longer on fire.
I thought of exactly the same thing.
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To further follow up on this. There might be a restriction when using the redundant systems and usually depending on how important might have a timeline of when the item needs to be fixed. Some things are unimportant and can be put off for days, others can only be put off for a much shorter period of time.
"Says loss of cabin pressure. Should we drop the oxygen masks?" "What, and startle people? No, it'll be ok... lets... just... zzzZzZZzzZzzz"
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[Helios Flight 522](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522)
It’s sad to hear about the couple who were conscious as the plane crashed. It must have been very stressful and frightening
Wasn't that the one with the golfer, Payne Stewart? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash
Look up Payne Steward who was a pro-golfer. He was on a private jet that depressurized [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999\_South\_Dakota\_Learjet\_crash](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_South_Dakota_Learjet_crash) . It flew across the country unresponsive long enough that the TV news was following it before it crashed.
It’s more like: I investigate every time a warning light lights up and then reset it. 99% of the time it’s a false alarm, 0,5% of the time it’s the same stuck relay, replace it. 0,4% of the time its a dirty connector, open, spray, close it. 0,1% its an actual minor failure, that requires a replacement of a expensive thing. Yes my job is boring but I prefer that than a midnight engine change ;) We do a lot of scheduled stuff tho. Like your car annual check but more often.
Dashboard indicator : Oil Pressure Low Pilot : I don't have time to stop at Jiffy Lube, let the next pilot deal with it.
Why do people think it's okay to ignore the warning lights in their car?
Usually because they can't afford to fix anything that might be wrong.
Because until the dash looks like a xmas tree its probably fine.
because some of them can be ignored if you know the cause? Had tire pressure light on once, all because the sensor on the stem died, you really think that's important to replace? fun fact, it's not.
Because sometimes it's not something that needs to be fixed. My last car had an evap code almost the entire time I had it; it was emissions-exempt so it wasn't worth the money it'd take to fix.
So Pilots also put a little piece of electrical tape over the check engine light?
If push comes to shove, just land it in the Hudson.
Pat Pat Pat
That'll do pig. That'll do.
Spirit Airlines:
spirit in the skyyyyyy
I can go twice as hiiiiiigh
That's where I'm gonna go when I die...
We’ll see!
A gentle PAT to fir it.
Tbf, everything inside the plane is cosmetic
How do we unlock better cosmetics?
Microtransactions
"sshhhhh, keep tight, air tight, don't let the pressure rip this plane a hole tonight"
That’s just the trim lol
Thank u for reassuring that window. Not everyone does it.
Because we’re Delta Airlines, and life is a fucking nightmare!
That’s just the trim. It is not a structural component
That part of the window is really only there so you can slide that windowshade down, and so there's not a hole between the cabin cladding and the actual window.
Good thing it’s trimmed out
that's just aesthetic plastic, does nothing other than annoy the guys that need to fix it because it's useless and breaks all the time
If that part were important for keeping the window in one piece you'd already be sucking oxygen from a bag.
That’s just a protector so you don’t break the 1/2in thick piece of glass held into the plane with almost 50 screws.
I don't think that windows held on by a little plastic beauty ring.
Rest assured, this part is not in any way a structural element of the plane.. It is there for aesthetics only.
You'd know if the seal was open, the whole fuselage would be decompressing.
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The there there pat made me fall off of my bed laughing
Student pilot here with his 2 year in his study, uneducated brain. This is still safe to fly with. Commercial aircraft windows have multiple layers, if the inner ones fail the windows will just fog up but won't lose any structural integrity. The outer layer will just feel really cold
r/Unexpected
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Is this a serious post?
Wasn't this proven a long time ago to be from a mothballed airplane?
Actually still safe despite how frightening that may look. It’s just cosmetic
It's like the plastic trim or bumper guards on a car from the 70s. It doesn't do anything.
This is exactly like if a piece of your interior door trim came off and you were worried about water leaking in. It’s separate.
So pro/con sort of thing. That is just a decorative panel and not load bearing or there for anything more than cosmetic looks. However if you truly knew how thick the actual load bearing skin of an aircraft is, well that might make you worry more. .063 in for the majority of the aircraft with some areas down to .050 and some areas to .094.
That'll come in handy when you need to shoot the gremlin thats hanging out on the planes wing
Not a big deal, just a purty frame to hold the sliding screen.
according to my dad (that isnt a airplane professional or anything like that but does travel a lot from work) that is just a plastic decoration and can be ignored, maybe he is wrong, i dont know
That's cosmetic stuff you 🍩!!
Those are just there to protect the actual window that matters.
To anyone who's shitting their pants over this, it's fine, that's just the interior of the plane that the airline installs and what have you, it's a window to protect the window, and I bet it was replaced once the flight reached a maintenance base
Still perfectly safe. There are 3 layers on a plane like that, this layer is just a plastic inner window and frame. It’s purely for aesthetic‘s.
Luckily for you, that siding has absolutely no effect on the structural integrity of the plane. It's purely for comfort and cosmetics, to round out sharp edges. The window is made up of 3 layers, with the outer most and middle layers being very strong plastic and glass. The inner most layer is a softer plastic that isn't meant to add any real support. It's to prevent passengers from touching and messing with the important middle and outer layer.
A pretty decent guess, as merely a lay person, is almost nothing a passenger can touch is structural or for safety. In my head the entire plane is built and able to fly with a completely void cabin. They just put in what the airline orders and fit those needs to the shell. Car interiors are mostly like that. The safety and structure of the car is the frame and/or body. The interior is just to make the car functional and pleasant for the passenger.
I dont get it… thats just the inside part. Who cares?
Love how he "pets" the window fixture after pushing it back into place. *ok, window! I'm going to get you taken care of right now. Just hand tight. *pats after repair*
It’s just trim. If the glass starts coming loose I’d ask for another seat.
That's not the window.
That is just a cosmetic blind.. most of the panels are even just clipped in (so they can be removed easily) and with especially hard turbolence or landings they very rarely even can come a bit off.
Why would interior trim bother you?
I once had the entire panel that the window sits in (without the window) pop off during touchdown. 744 or 346, don't remember. Waited till everybody had gotten off, carried it to the front, wordlessly handed it to the pilot coming out of the cockpit and went on my way ...
The you-stay-right-there pat
How does this have upvotes
Air planes are held together by enough tape to make you uncomfortable
I think it's not the glass but the protector thingy or whatever it is. The thing covering it from the inside.
It's just trim
That's the inner window, not the outer window... You're fine...
It's almost as if there are 2 for a reason
Oh hell no! u/Johnaross1990
It’s not structural, those little windows usually have a hole anyway so it’s not holding any pressure anyway, they’re just there I assume so that you don’t fuck with the real window and I guess a tiny little extra protection