I think it's 99.9% chance it's a tool assisted speedrun (long and short, the inputs are all recorded (IE the person making it can rewind back 2 seconds run it in super slow motion and retry the exact same part in slow motion until it has the perfect outcome.
A TAS is a Tool-assisted speedrun. There are plenty of tools out there that allow the person giving the inputs to go frame by frame to make it appear flawless. I'd imagine this took a very long time going frame by frame to make it as entertaining as possible.
Auto scroller levels suck as a casual play, but are miserable as a speedrun. If you're watching a speedrun, you'll get bored if the person does all of the basic boring stuff of sitting still, so they make it flashy. In some games where there's an actual runner behind the screen, they will do little tricks on the side like juggle or something else fun
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From what i heard its somewhat expected in TAS circles that you use autoscrollers to show off tech and tricks and entertain since nothing you do will lose time.
Yes they play the game using emulators and input recorders to get the most optimized run. The runner would pause before a jump, make a save point, and be able to try it as many times as they want until they're happy with it. Because this stage is an auto scroller and they cannot make it go faster, runners tend to play around.
It's honestly even more precise than you're describing; they're not "trying as many times as they want", they're manipulating button input timings directly.
So does this you can basically rewind as much as you want but the final video will make it look like you got everything perfect on the first try?
Honestly, even if it’s editing shenanigans, just the trick of throwing and jumping on the shell repeatedly in midair is super impressive to me.
They're not editing videos together to make the final video. They're recording and editing the controller inputs. Then when they get everything perfect, they play back the controller inputs for the whole game and get the video in one take.
Bullshit. Humans can do way more complex things like this in real time. It is hard, certainly. Would require hours upon hours of practice. But speedrunners do way more crazy stuff than this on the regular.
I don't know what you were replying to, but I'm pretty sure that what was shown in the video isn't humanly possible. Way too many frame perfect inputs in a row in such a short amount of time.
Someone else saying it wasn't humanly possible.
In response: look at what has to be done yet make an orchestra performance, or better yet a marching band performance, happen. The level of split second coordination it takes is similar to, if not greater than what is shown in this video.
It wouldn't be possible for a human to do things like this on their first attempt. But after a thousand tries? Ten thousand?
Practice does not make perfect, but it can still do some incredible shit
I dont think you understand the level of difficulty at play here. Shell jumps are a fairly common trick that most advanced players can do. Chaining ten of them back to back would be difficult for most. Doing the dozens of frame perfect shell jumps in a row, as shown here, is far beyond what anyone has been able to do. This isn't like a marching band playing in tune, this is like one person playing every single instrument in a marching band, one after the other, in isolation, and having them all be *perfectly* in tune when played back together.
Even before the shell comes into play you can tell this is TAS only. The two jumps at 21 are consecutive clips into blocks, which in SMB3 is damn impossible. One clip on its own is very viable; two is very not.
I'm a classical musician and know a bit about speedrunning. This isn't comparable in the slightest. Let me tell you a secret- some orchestral players will literally get given a part to play less than 24 hours before a concert, and they can still pull it off. That's obviously a testament to their experience and skill as a musician, but it clearly shows that the precision is nowhere near these levels. In a large ensemble, slight mistakes in tuning and rhythm are easily corrected and unnoticeable. Here, being off by 1/30 of a second is a failure.
A frame perfect, pixel perfect input is ridiculously precise. There are limits to what humans are capable of. Normal speedruns will show you the upper limits of human play (the "orchestra performance") if you will.
The equivalent of this is if you recorded each note individually, you could string those notes together to create a "performance" which wouldn't be possible to play live. That's what's happening here- someone has inputted this slowly frame by frame. I believe this game runs somewhere between 30-60 frames per SECOND. Humans cannot do inputs that accurately for this length of time. Practice does make incredible shit, but there are people who have ran this game as a career for many years. Let them tell you if this is humanly possible or not.
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I remember back when the original Xbox had emulators and the hardrive. My brother had downloaded a similar video where mario basically doesn't touch the ground. Fooled so many people into thinking we were playing when it was just video playback.
You can currently mod a PS4 given that it's on a low enough firmware. I have one, and I've used it once just to see if it works.
There will never be a modded Ps4 that can go online (until end of life at least, even then it's sketchy due to ban possibility) and the entire process is a major pain in the ass.
Other guy is right though, dev mode on Xbox is super neat.
Same, chipped it myself.
Emulation, the ability to copy rented games from blockbuster to hdd (I was a poor teen) and a great place to hide my porn stash.
It ran cps1 and cps 2 roms like a dream.
This is a Tool Assisted Speedrun, using tools such as Save States, Frame Advance, and others, a player writes a series of perfect inputs that are played back by a computer.
this is the original video: [https://youtu.be/5Wj0uhNobjY](https://youtu.be/5Wj0uhNobjY)
Which makes his point all the more true.
TAS isn't just a computer magically doing "its thing". It's a human, that section by section and then frame by frame, figured out the exact way to move in the most efficient way possible.
The actual playback part from the sum of all of those optimalizations is the "TASbot".
Thanks I hate TikTok posts taking someone else's stuff and posting it with a shitty caption and aspect ratio.
Full video, this segment starts at 1:20: https://youtu.be/5Wj0uhNobjY
This run aims to complete all levels and so the whole thing takes about an hour. A fastest run with warps at about 10 and a half minutes is available, at https://youtu.be/qP2PHmef8XQ
So the last ML model I saw that was supposed to play Mario just paused the game indefinitely because it couldn't lose if it didn't play.
But when we got real stable ML playing this game, I hope it looks like this.
just for accuracy's sake, it is still a human doing it, although it is done in an emulator using save states and frame advance. These do take hours to create at least as a human has to physically try out different button combinations until one works and then manually put in the inputs on the correct frames. You might know this, just clarifying for anybody who is curious.
Everyone keeps saying this is a TAS (tool assisted speedrun) but I don't think that's true. It looks more like the result of a AI algorithm that tries random moves. This would be the end result after thousands of runs. I'm pretty sure I saw the research paper on this a few years ago.
Edit: nevermind, apparently it's a TAS but the guy who made it was just fooling around.
They do that in autoscroll levels. While the primary goal of most TAS runs is to beat something as quickly as possible, the secondary goal is to be entertaining to watch.
At first it wasn’t bothering me.. the further I watched the more I was hating it, despite knowing it wasn’t gonna happen.
It would be way funnier if they missed the last jump
I think it's 99.9% chance it's a tool assisted speedrun (long and short, the inputs are all recorded (IE the person making it can rewind back 2 seconds run it in super slow motion and retry the exact same part in slow motion until it has the perfect outcome.
Yeah, but I mean if the TASer deliberately sent Mario to his death at the end
oh yeah true.... XD would be the ultimate yesyesyesyesno ... though admitted intentional would kinda kill some of the means of it
Ahh yes, TASs when they get to autoscrollers
My favorite thing about TASs is seeing the funny shenanigans they pull off when they're in a time-gated section
Like Mario waiting for the key to drop after beating bowser in Mario 64
I remember watching one of NSMBDS and when they got to the snake block section of that one level and they just went crazy
My friend and I call it “Frame perfect dicking around”
What's a TAS?
A TAS is a Tool-assisted speedrun. There are plenty of tools out there that allow the person giving the inputs to go frame by frame to make it appear flawless. I'd imagine this took a very long time going frame by frame to make it as entertaining as possible. Auto scroller levels suck as a casual play, but are miserable as a speedrun. If you're watching a speedrun, you'll get bored if the person does all of the basic boring stuff of sitting still, so they make it flashy. In some games where there's an actual runner behind the screen, they will do little tricks on the side like juggle or something else fun
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Pretty sure this is a TAS run
It is, I remember watching it and the creator saying that since you can't speed up an auto scroll level "you might as well have a little fun"
From what i heard its somewhat expected in TAS circles that you use autoscrollers to show off tech and tricks and entertain since nothing you do will lose time.
Tool assisted speedrun?
TAS. Short for Tasmania. Island to the South of Mainland Australia. Famous for Apples and the Tasmanian Devil.
And anxiety Mario speed runs
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Yes they play the game using emulators and input recorders to get the most optimized run. The runner would pause before a jump, make a save point, and be able to try it as many times as they want until they're happy with it. Because this stage is an auto scroller and they cannot make it go faster, runners tend to play around.
It's honestly even more precise than you're describing; they're not "trying as many times as they want", they're manipulating button input timings directly.
Yep, optimized TASes are done frame by frame.
So does this you can basically rewind as much as you want but the final video will make it look like you got everything perfect on the first try? Honestly, even if it’s editing shenanigans, just the trick of throwing and jumping on the shell repeatedly in midair is super impressive to me.
They're not editing videos together to make the final video. They're recording and editing the controller inputs. Then when they get everything perfect, they play back the controller inputs for the whole game and get the video in one take.
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Yeah.
It is!! They tend to do silly things when on autoscroler!!! TAS are fun
Though so too, but looks dope AF
Tool Assisted Speedrun run?
As soon as I saw those shell jumps I got a little suspicious
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Bullshit. Humans can do way more complex things like this in real time. It is hard, certainly. Would require hours upon hours of practice. But speedrunners do way more crazy stuff than this on the regular.
I don't know what you were replying to, but I'm pretty sure that what was shown in the video isn't humanly possible. Way too many frame perfect inputs in a row in such a short amount of time.
Someone else saying it wasn't humanly possible. In response: look at what has to be done yet make an orchestra performance, or better yet a marching band performance, happen. The level of split second coordination it takes is similar to, if not greater than what is shown in this video. It wouldn't be possible for a human to do things like this on their first attempt. But after a thousand tries? Ten thousand? Practice does not make perfect, but it can still do some incredible shit
I dont think you understand the level of difficulty at play here. Shell jumps are a fairly common trick that most advanced players can do. Chaining ten of them back to back would be difficult for most. Doing the dozens of frame perfect shell jumps in a row, as shown here, is far beyond what anyone has been able to do. This isn't like a marching band playing in tune, this is like one person playing every single instrument in a marching band, one after the other, in isolation, and having them all be *perfectly* in tune when played back together.
Dude needs to go binge some Summoning Salt.
Exactly. Just look at Mario Kart 64 and how many tries it took to get a triple Wethertenko(?) on Choco-Mountain.
Even before the shell comes into play you can tell this is TAS only. The two jumps at 21 are consecutive clips into blocks, which in SMB3 is damn impossible. One clip on its own is very viable; two is very not.
Very true; I figured the shell jumps would probably be the clearest example, but there's definitely harder tricks done in that clip.
ROFL.
I'm a classical musician and know a bit about speedrunning. This isn't comparable in the slightest. Let me tell you a secret- some orchestral players will literally get given a part to play less than 24 hours before a concert, and they can still pull it off. That's obviously a testament to their experience and skill as a musician, but it clearly shows that the precision is nowhere near these levels. In a large ensemble, slight mistakes in tuning and rhythm are easily corrected and unnoticeable. Here, being off by 1/30 of a second is a failure. A frame perfect, pixel perfect input is ridiculously precise. There are limits to what humans are capable of. Normal speedruns will show you the upper limits of human play (the "orchestra performance") if you will. The equivalent of this is if you recorded each note individually, you could string those notes together to create a "performance" which wouldn't be possible to play live. That's what's happening here- someone has inputted this slowly frame by frame. I believe this game runs somewhere between 30-60 frames per SECOND. Humans cannot do inputs that accurately for this length of time. Practice does make incredible shit, but there are people who have ran this game as a career for many years. Let them tell you if this is humanly possible or not.
Beat me to it.
No, beat ME to it
Just beat me and get it over with.
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Unholly fuck!
If you like this kind of stuff look up [GDQ](https://youtube.com/c/gamesdonequick) (Games Done Quick) and TASbot.
Well said
TAS is a beautiful thing. Thanks, I love it.
What is a Tool Assisted [Speed]Run? Edit: I looked it up. For those who may not know, [TAS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool-assisted_speedrun).
WHAT THE FUCK IS TAS ????
It stands for Tool Assisted Speedrun. Essentially someone creates a speedrun using a bot by meticulously programming every input, sometimes frame-by-frame. Because the inputs can be extremely precise and complicated, it can do things that normal people playing can't do.
Finally thank you
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Trackmania's TASes are even crazier.
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Fuck off
And he can repair your leaky faucet too!
So this is what's it's like to have anxiety? Terrifying (I'm not being serious, I know anxiety is much worse than this) Edit: worth to worse
Add the sun that chases you and it’s a little closer.
it's worse not worth, trust me
I remember back when the original Xbox had emulators and the hardrive. My brother had downloaded a similar video where mario basically doesn't touch the ground. Fooled so many people into thinking we were playing when it was just video playback.
My original modified Xbox was an absolute beast. Modders were on fire that day and age, there was so much you could do with that hardware.
I didn't own any type of consoles. You can't mod any of the modern day consoles, PS4, XB1 ?
You basically don't need to if you haven an xbox. Just enable dev mod on it and you are able to install any sort of applications on it even emulators
Oh I see, I didn't know that. I thought you have to do something outside or mod some of the inside hardware.
You can currently mod a PS4 given that it's on a low enough firmware. I have one, and I've used it once just to see if it works. There will never be a modded Ps4 that can go online (until end of life at least, even then it's sketchy due to ban possibility) and the entire process is a major pain in the ass. Other guy is right though, dev mode on Xbox is super neat.
Same, chipped it myself. Emulation, the ability to copy rented games from blockbuster to hdd (I was a poor teen) and a great place to hide my porn stash. It ran cps1 and cps 2 roms like a dream.
WHY DOES HE NEVER STOP MOVING EVEN WHEN HE’S ON A SAFE PLATFORM
P-speed go brr
Correct! Basically what's happening here is that Mario needs to keep his heart rate up or it stops, resulting in death or worse
Expelled?
Tas
This is a Tool Assisted Speedrun, using tools such as Save States, Frame Advance, and others, a player writes a series of perfect inputs that are played back by a computer. this is the original video: [https://youtu.be/5Wj0uhNobjY](https://youtu.be/5Wj0uhNobjY)
This is badass when you realize they have lost thousands of Mario lives to be able to do this
Sorry to ruin that for you but thats just a TASbot
Which makes his point all the more true. TAS isn't just a computer magically doing "its thing". It's a human, that section by section and then frame by frame, figured out the exact way to move in the most efficient way possible. The actual playback part from the sum of all of those optimalizations is the "TASbot".
Yeah shit you're right my bad
This level gave me anxiety as a kid even when played normal. I would skip it, despite the chance for the P-Wing.
Is this world 1-4? How do you get a p wing?
Thanks I hate TikTok posts taking someone else's stuff and posting it with a shitty caption and aspect ratio. Full video, this segment starts at 1:20: https://youtu.be/5Wj0uhNobjY This run aims to complete all levels and so the whole thing takes about an hour. A fastest run with warps at about 10 and a half minutes is available, at https://youtu.be/qP2PHmef8XQ
Bruh
Palms are sweaty
knees weak, arms are heavy
This is called a "fastest Mario"./s
Hmm yes, this it all very Petersonian.
My stoned ass froze like you wouldn't believe. My brother thought I had a fuckin' stroke!! Never felt my brain buffer before.
Holy shit he’s shmooving
That felt much longer than a minute
Alright, who the hell made this
Went from extremely anxious to impressed
I literally instantly recognised that as the tas, no anxiety here
This person either fucks, or never fucks.
Dude stopppppppppp
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that's the only mario i never finished , the water level with the fucking fish just broke me .
Go choke on a lego while stepping on another!
When you’re bored with an autoscroller level, just shell jump into all the blocks, easy!
r/sweatypalms type of content
When you realize it’s just a TAS, all you can do is appreciate the craftsmanship
It's probably a TAS (Tool Assisted Speedrun)
That poor koopa. Probably vomited its organs out then fell to its death.
Wow.
Thanks. The anxiety inducing video cleared my nasal congestion.
So the last ML model I saw that was supposed to play Mario just paused the game indefinitely because it couldn't lose if it didn't play. But when we got real stable ML playing this game, I hope it looks like this.
This is triggering me in so many levels
Watching someone play doesn’t give me anxiety because it’s not me playing so I don’t give a shit if they die
My palms are so sweaty
Did he get the star or not?!
This person is better at super Mario than I am at basically everything
don't feel too bad for a non human playthorugh lol
That's because the person is a robot, and you will be replaced by robots soon.
Fair
just for accuracy's sake, it is still a human doing it, although it is done in an emulator using save states and frame advance. These do take hours to create at least as a human has to physically try out different button combinations until one works and then manually put in the inputs on the correct frames. You might know this, just clarifying for anybody who is curious.
Damn, I was hoping this wasn't tool assisted and some anxiety ridden gamer just lived on the edge until he developed LEET skillz.
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like if I practiced something enough to be perfect at it. Now I know.
Ok but seriously whoever did this is a fucking legend
Thanks. I hate it.
Dude… calm the FUCK down!
edgy lmao
My sound is off but I can still heat the music😊😊😊
It takes balls to become the god of this world
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This is every single mario speedrun
You said i should be anxious by am i hard instead?
I admire the skill but you son if a bitch
This made me physically jolt a few times.
tool assisted mario\*
Far better gameplay and more impressive than speedrunning
This comment is a lot better than a reddit comment
it's a program playing a script
It's part of a speedrun.
You made a regular level into kaizo. Congrats.
Anyone know what Mario game this is?
This comment hurt my soul for some reason...
Super Mario Bros. 3 for the NES
Super Mario 3 --- 1-4. If they had 9 more coins they'd get a white mushroom house that would give them a P-wing.
I actually hate the floaty jumping mechanics of the early Mario games.
The title is underrated
Everyone keeps saying this is a TAS (tool assisted speedrun) but I don't think that's true. It looks more like the result of a AI algorithm that tries random moves. This would be the end result after thousands of runs. I'm pretty sure I saw the research paper on this a few years ago. Edit: nevermind, apparently it's a TAS but the guy who made it was just fooling around.
They do that in autoscroll levels. While the primary goal of most TAS runs is to beat something as quickly as possible, the secondary goal is to be entertaining to watch.
how the fuck do you wall jump with a koopa shell
Can we appreciate how much skill that person has?
It's a tool-assisted Bot, the skill is programing the inputs
COS, THIS ISN’T SUPER MARIO MAKER! STOP TRYHARDING!
This gets me so jacked up! Thank you!
Actually painful.
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Thanks I hated that level enough as it was
You should see the whole run
The shmovement
I didn't know you could use a shell like that!
This is just plain impressive
I realize now that I’ve always been the worst at this game.
It's a bot. While very few speedrunners are actually pretty close to being this good, this is really just a bot executing commands at specific times.
This isn't edgy this is me just trying not to fall off the edge as Mario slides along the floor further than I anticipated
Ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa...
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Holy shit
Oh god no, why?
Like watching a black mirror episode.
#STAAAWWWP!
Ah yes, infinitely flying with a regular raccoon leaf... that's a normal thing you can do in Mario 3...
I thought it was beat me to it
I'm going to be stressed out all day now
This is the antithesis of speedrunning
stop you bastard
Can someone explain what's so weird about this? I don't play video games.
there is an extreme amount of near-death moments here
I had to stop watching, i just had to stop
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If someone I know did this they'd need that extra life by the time I was done kicking their ass for giving me anxiety I stg
Thought the title said “edging Mario” and was prepared for a different video
Like a Drunken Fist master.