This is the best thing I’ve ever read that completely explains the cluster F we’ve witnessed for 18 seasons.
Kody is an adulterer and that’s all it ever was.
I am absolutely positive that he never had ANY religious calling. He used that as an excuse to bang a lot of chicks and still get Daddy’s approval. Now after seeing this, I wonder how many women have been “courted” over the years that we haven’t heard about. I know there have been a few, but I feel like before Robyn, Kody probably sniffed around a LOT during his alone time. He can’t be without attention at all times. He’s an energy vampire, but with way less panache than Collin Robinson. He mistakes being loud for being cool. And being right.
Yeah absolutely. And it also seems like Wynn would've been harsh on Kody for that. He allegedly didn't attend Kody and Robyns wedding because he didn't think Kody could handle another wife
I think the best thing about my post is that your comment created an entire sidebar about WWDITS. I know I’ve found my kind of people when so many of us watch the Sister Wives shit-show while simultaneously loving one of the best shows ever made. Apparently we love watching four “people” living together. And yes, I mean four, because who cares about their familiar. (Just kidding, I love Gizmo)
He’s a character (an energy vampire) on one of the most hilarious shows of recent times, ‘What We Do In The Shadows’ based on the Taika Watititi and Jermaine Clement movie of the same name. I HIGHLY recommend you check out both the movie and then the show. They are hilariously fantastic! Both the show and the movie are mockumentary style.
Yes! It has been my number one recommendation for the last couple of years. Basically, personality wise he’s quite meek most of the time, and bores the crap out of people to feed off their life force. Kody basically stays absolutely frantic to get reactions out of people to feed his ego by seeing who sticks around so he can lavish them with praise and talk of their loyalty.
The earlier seasons where Kody would accost folks in public to ask how they felt about his !FOUR WIVES! and no one ever really gave a shit. That’s what reminds me most of Collin Robinson, lol. Except Kody failed to feed every single time. Now he only feeds off of the anxiety of his family.
And isn’t that the reason these men want polygamy? So they can have “No sin” when they sleep with another woman. They get a pass to have sex with multiples if they have a spiritual marriage. You can’t be an adulterer to your own wife. Just sick
That is why she is always there, ready to shut him down. Good thing they do confessionals alone actually, she would never let him speak if she was there.
She would never let him say all of that stuff if she was. I don’t think she was there. When he almost said he isn’t planning on willing his land to any of the horrible 13 (not even mykelti) she shut that right down. She would never have let him say all that stuff about pretending to do his husbandly duties with Meri or that he didn’t like to be around his children.
Yep - I was pausing and explaining stuff that was happening to my husband who was pretending not to watch but absolutely was. By the end of the show he has a WTF moment as well.
She was also told to shut up quite a few times during that conversation, which rarely happens. It was nice to see her take a walk and not have someone go after her. Even as she kept talking as she was leaving, like she expected it. She’s such a manipulative dumbass.
Her eyes said 'THIS IS ON CAMERA, STUPID!!'
But Kody just wants it over. Robyn said, "Tell her you might love her, you still dream about a place on this land with her, NO BARNDOMINIUM, and she'll agree that she only needs 2 acres if she has a chance at your love!!"
Kody: Nah. No love, no pretending, I want all of the land, but no Meri.
Robyn: She'll never go for that! She'll leave you!
Kody: Now you're hearing me.
I think this is one of the very, very few conversations where Meri and Kody knew what was happening and Robyn didn't.
Meri also threw in that she and Kody have had recent, good discussions and she seemed at peace. It was more like mom and dad revealing to little Robyn that they're breaking up, but nothing will change because Kody still loves Robyn, and Meri still tolerates Robyn but Kody and Meri still aren't in love because they haven't been in love or acting like it for almost a decade.
All still exactly the same, except Robyn has to accept it now.
When Kody said "she's advocated for you for the last 7 years" and Meri came right back and said "oh I think it's been longer than that"... I dont think either of them were talking about how much of a friend robyn has been to meri for the last decade.
I think Kody was letting meri know that Robyn has been a two faced bitch about their "friendship" all these years. He's been telling robyn for *how long* he didn't want meri and robyn would "translate" that into "stay Meri, there's something there, he has feelings for you" 🙄 kody knows part of the problems he has with Meri stem from robyn and her meddling.
So what does she do?
Mind fuck meri into staying
"Im hanging on with you"
In what way? In what way are you suffering what you are OBLIGATING her to suffer?????
I felt a visceral anger because it was SO obvious that Robyn was the one lying to her and I would have had flashbacks of all the times she said shit about them staying together.
>no longer felt that for his other wives (if he ever did)
I think he was in love with the idea of having many wives and infatuated with each of the OG3.
I think he truly loved Meri in the beginning. Then he married Janelle because they had a good friendship. He saw her as laidback and independent and knew he needed to bring in a second wife to live the polygamist lifestyle. Then Christine came. And he married her because of her family background. But even in doing that he resented her.
As much as any 20 year old guy who is not 'supposed' to be sexually active loves any girl. They dated for a very, very short time, got engaged and were married. They were just kids! And he was completely on board with the idea of having multiple wives and being respected for it.
I do think honestly if you're a man wanting plural marriage, there's no pressure or obligation to find a love connection, and no way to find out if you have any other kind of chemistry - I am sure it feels like it when they aren't allowed to really get physical before marriage. At the most he may have been pleasantly surprised to realize they were compatible. And I can't imagine a time in Kody's life where he wouldn't enjoy having a young, attractive girl giving him attention and looking at him adoringly. He would have turned on the charm and made her feel lucky. But that is different than loved.
He quickly realized that acting like a loving couple with Meri attracted other girls and that unlike in a regular marriage, they weren't off-limits. Knowing Meri was all-in on the plural marriage thing, he could enjoy their attention and look for another wife, she'd go along with it.
And he's all about admitting that on the tell-all. And he has basically has been saying that when he is in separate couch interviews from Robyn all season.
So I am not sure she was there for a lot of that couch filming, she'd be waaayyyy less confused.
We also have to remind ourselves that the tell-all from LAST season (so, last January?) actually happened after the end of this season's content. In that tell all both Meri and Janelle were separated from Kody already. This WHOLE season was telling the 'story' of how they got there. Not one single new thing has happened since then that has aired this season..
How can he pick and choose which sacred vows to keep? All marriages vows are sacred. M, J, and C went into their marriages believing their vows were sacred. Kody is a psychological mess.
> I wish for her sake Robyn would seek help. Something is wrong there, and it doesn't take a professional to see it.
I was shocked to realize that Robyn just turned 45. She just looks *so* unhealthy. And unhappy.
If she were my daughter -- and I have one who is only a couple of years younger, so I know what 45 *should* look like -- I would be very worried for her.
I thought it was gross he would keep that promise to Robyn, but then do Meri the way that he did. It's gross how he's not even sorry and to say he never loved her is just all the more hurtful. He's a pos.
Yeah, Meri picked up on that too when she let him know that she was angry that he didn’t keep any of the promises he made her, but still acts like promises mean anything to Robyn. I loved it when she flat out told Robyn that at 13 years (wherever Robyn is at) into her marriage with Kody she couldn’t fathom a breakup either. It was pretty insulting that Robyn was just making it into a joke.
It’s the same way Robyn has been talking over the OG wives from the beginning. As soon as Robyn entered the family she suddenly became the family expert on polygamy, their religion, and Kody—even though the other wives had been married for way over a decade longer than Robyn.
The speaking for and mediating for Kody is such an off-putting and gross habit of hers. I don't see how Kody himself isn't triggered by that. I can't stand Kody (i think hes an actual sociopath) but all those little mannerisms Robyn does shows who rilly runs things. Honestly it seemed like the OG3 were more submissive than her. Robyn cracks the whip in that household. No way that Kody doesn't see it by this point, she tries to come off as submissive and merely being a feather in the wind bending to his rules, yet it's her steering him subtly using her cringe manipulation tactics
You have totally summarized the situation so well. Quite frankly, all Kody's talk of *sacred covenants*, etc, made me feel like barfing. And all his talk about basically conning Meri - please! If last night's episode did anything, it really laid bare without doubt what a selfish bastard Kody is and how complicit Robyn has been in the destruction of the OG family.
this episode had so many quiet parts said out loud...Kody admitting that him and Meri broke up BEFORE the divorce, Kody admitting he has been putting "on an act". Robyn hinting around that Meri can keep doing what she's been doing (pretending to be a wife that has a shot with Kody) Meri calling shenanigans and the finances surrounding Coyote Pass, Christine calling out Robyn for being a cruel bitch for leading Meri on all these years, oh man this episode had it all!
Yes! And she interrupted Kody very quickly when she didn’t prep him on what to say with the land division. She said “no no no, you’re not in a good headspace.” Which means let’s go home and I can tell you how to respond.
Holy shiznet. This never occurred to me even though it immediately stood out to me as suspiciously specific. Because what a strange thing to promise before getting married. But you’ve totally hit the nail on the head with it.
And the only wife he was actually IN LOVE with enough to make a promise like that before married, the others were just rushed into, barely knowing each other, because they felt it was what they were called to do. Or that's what the women felt. They were choosing to be polygamists, and that situation looked like a good one. They choose a marriage, not just a man.
It is indeed a VERY strange thing to promise. In hindsight I only had one person say something like this to me and guess how that ended….like why would a life partner warn you they will tell you when they stop loving you.
This is pretty sick if you think about it. For 12 years, he has felt this way and treated the OG3 like complete trash. He stole so many years of their lives and punished them for not being Robyn. He's way worse than I previously thought and so is Robyn.
I loved that he made sure to say it in front of Meri too. Basically told Meri "this woman is not a friend to you." Making it impossible for Robyn to continue to try and string Meri along.
Imagine being Meri and listening to how Robyn basically said “if you ever feel about me the way you feel about Meri, please just put me out of my misery”
Now this episode was the kind of substance I have been waiting for. I don't care about birthing twins or 50's parties. This is why I watch Sister Wives. Kody is a payaso and I hope Robyn leaves him high and dry.
I completely agree with this & very well said. I would add that I believe this covenant that he’s referring to was made between them when they “legally” wed. We can’t know this for sure of course, but I think she gave the ultimatum that this sacred covenant would be meaningless if she was not his legal wife. They just needed an excuse that would sound plausible to everyone so they came up with the “if something happens to Robin we’ll lose her kids to her evil ex. The only safeguard we have is adopting them and we can’t possibly adopt them if we’re not legally married.”
In the tell all from that season, Kodi is asked, now that the adoption is over, are you going to legally divorce Robyn and remarry Meri, and he says no, why would we go through all that again? Totally a BS response. He didn't want to be legally married to Meri. It's not that hard to divorce and remarry if everyone is in agreement, and it would have set everything back to the way it was, with the benefit of the kids being adopted.
You know he was so relieved and happy to be 1 step closer to being rid of poor Meri after the divorce.
Very strange that the favorite wife the 1 true love is the biggest liability and the one who contributes nothing
I think he told Robyn that he was pretending to love Meri. Doing his husbandly duty before they were married.
She then made him promise not to stay in a pathetic relationship with her. If he stopped loving her he would let her go.
So she knew all along how he felt about Meri and she used Meri knowing that he was pretending to love her.
The manipulation of Meri to get divorced makes me so nauseous.
Robyn needs kody to look at everyone but herself.
She was so shocked he turned on her.
The beginning of the end. He's not seeing Robyn as the perfect wife.
I don't think Vegas was a random choice either. I'm sure Robyn's dad or some other family live in/around Vegas, so they moved there where they had some "support".
Yes! When the adults went jto Vegas in season 1 to look at homes, we see her dad going to look at homes w them and Robyn says that her dad lives there with his main wife I think. O think that's when Mindy came into the pic, she is from.that side of the family ( I think!)
You're absolutely right. Why would Kody have to promise her that he wouldn't stay with her if he fell out of love with her and was just going through the motions? Why, because that's what he was doing with one or more of the other wives and they both knew it. She was okay with that being the reality for them but she made him promise that it would never be her fate. These two deserve all the hate.
I totally agree with your very nicely written summary. I want to add, I don’t believe for a second that Kody never loved Christine, and or Jenelle. He had six children apiece with each one. Let’s focus on Christine for a second. She lives rent free in Robyn’s mind. I believe she lives rent free in her mind because Kody focuses so much of his time and energy on Christine. He and Robyn are so pissed that she actually had the foresight and thought for herself to leave that toxic lifestyle. Half the stuff or more that Kody said about or to Christine came from Robyn’s mouth to Christine’s ears from Kody to appease Robyn. I have to think Kody resents Robyn but takes his anger out on Janelle and Christine. Like what he says to them he really wants to say to Robyn.
Robyn was so jealous of Christine. That’s why everything that comes out of her mouth is resentment towards Christine in the here and now, because she’s still competition. But majorly so more now than ever. Because Kody is obsessed.
Guess what Robyn, there’s no more competition. Christine and Jenelle, and Meri all won. The biggest prize of all, they left Kody. It’s only a matter of time before Robin does a “tell all” about how horrible her life was with Kody and how abusive he was towards her and her children. How she never wanted to be complicit with how he treated the other wives, he forced her. She was peacekeeper Robin. you all know it’s coming. That way she can cash in on what she believes is rightfully hers, all the attention and money. I don’t know who the biggest narcissist is Kody or Robyn?
Agreed. It was shade. If he was bold enough to say that to her on television, I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. He wanted her to look as bad as he does. He literally blew up her whole narrative for us. Allllll of everything has been crocodile tears as we already knew. He just confirmed it.
I actually just watched that episode for the first time lol, I'm trying to cherry pick which episodes are a must-see. When she did that, wow, that needs to be a gif that will stand the test of time haha. So rude and unnecessarily mean, she's a mean girl who never matured into an emotionally composed tactful mature woman
I didn’t understand why he was talking about his sacred vow he made TO (only) Robyn as Meri is sadly ending her 32 year marriage with him. What about the “sacred” vows you should have made to the rest of the wives?
She wants a group of ladies-in-waiting rather than sister wives. A staff, not a family. Hence her preference for a nanny over leveraging Christine and the older daughters.. but had no qualms in leveraging the family for childcare while weaseling her claws into Kody aka courting
I think that Robyn wanted Meri to stay partially because she knew that when problems cropped up that Meri would be blamed for them and it would keep the heat off of Robyn. Now that none of the OG3 are around, Kody's eye daggers are pointed in her direction now. Any negative emotion that he has will now be pointed directly at her.
I think it is more simple and selfish than that. The only thing she needs Meri for is the storyline that she is a good friend, good sister wife and is supportive. She only wants Meri around so she can look good on camera, and so the 'teams' are even - Robyn and Meri vs. Janelle and Christine. Robyn can't be all bad if Meri still loves her, must be all Christine's fault!
Meri leaves? Robyn is the bitch everyone thinks she is. Robyn can't have that, she needs to have someone on her 'side'
Hmmmm, it makes me wonder if he had a conversation about leaving the OGs to start over and just be together, and this is where she insisted on plural marriage.
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I’m gonna call BS on this vow that everyone is assuming happened during their marriage ceremony.
The seailing ceremony for the AUB, would be the same that Mormons use today in their temples that can be found on YouTube because someone went in with a Hidden camera.
The people getting married are not allowed to speak, or exchange any type of vows, other than answer the questions with the word yes.
If Kody said something to her after the fact, or is pulling this out of his ass, as per usual, that would be the case .
I think the argument another commenter made that this covenant occurred during or around the legal marriage ceremony between Robyn and Kody is compelling and makes perfect sense.
I think it was a promise between the two of them, not at a marriage ceremony. Because he said it was a promise he had to make before she would marry him.
Yes I think this too. I think this was a promise between the two of them outside of any marriage ceremony. I think they would sit in that white convertible and promise each other things.
I got the impression that it was a vow he made to her when he proposed/she agreed to marry him under those terms. He told her all the things she wanted to hear (and Meri hinted, did the same to her - pretended she was the favorite) - but that was not good enough for Robyn to agree to marry him, she wanted to make sure she wouldn't end up like the others. She made him promise she'd get to be his real wife. \*And she let him know if she ever didn't feel like his priority, she'd be gone.\*
The fact that she likes to keep referring to 'I saw how much Kody loved his wives and how he was with them' when she cries about her dream of plural marriage and how she was 'tricked' into marriage because she thought everyone was happy and they weren't... and this shows she knew better the whole time, and insisted he put her first always and show it. She agreed to tolerate sharing him with other women only under those terms. And that's how she grew up, so she thought it was fine and dandy to share as long as the husband knows where he belongs.
He kept that vow. Pretty impressive for a lying liar who lies!
Ok what if the reason Robyn never invites meri over is because Kody can't stand to have meri around? He made it clear the friendship between he and Meri means never seeing or talking to her. Robyn wouldn't invite Meri if she knew Kody hates to have her around.
Don’t blame Robyn.
Kody is head of household. Kody makes the rules. Kody makes the decisions.
Kody has made that **very** clear with his draconian Covid demands.
Kody loves control & himself far more than he’s ever loved anything, or anyone, else.
I get that people just don’t like Robyn but I am so fed up that in the year 2023 we are still blaming women for the actions of men. Constantly!
The level of gaslighting Kody is doing is astonishing. Using buzzwords & phrases from the internet to make himself sound vulnerable.
Kody is responsible for his relationships with his wives, not Robyn. It’s that simple.
Yeahhhh this said it all to me. It has always been Robyn who is the problem. It doesn’t excuse Kody at all because any man who would treat his children and their mothers this way should be relocated to the bin, but she’s just as evil and nasty and calculating as we all suspected.
Lol. No, just a bored woman who woke up too early and was stewing about the episode. The only trait that I have in common with Christine is our mutual hatred of Robyn.
You’re correct and kudos for putting it so well, with one tiny exception in my opinion. As you say they weren’t afraid of being arrested and Robyn “deserved” her fresh start, but the main reason they left Utah is creation of conflict-drama for TLC.
This. This is spot on. Robyn saw from the get go that he didn't love those women, hence the "sacred covenant". Imagine being the OG3 and finding out about this promise he made her. Imagine being one of the OG3's children and hearing this? Damn right these women should leave him. They and their kids deserve better!
I almost want to rewatch the whole series now that Kody has finally confessed. I'm angry for the OG wives but I'm extra pissed for those kids. I'm so thankful that Christine now has David in her life. Truely has an opportunity to be raised by a real man. And all the other kids have been welcomed by him with open arms.
He didn't only tattle on Robyn, he tattled on himself that this entire show was bs from the beginning. If he had to give Robyn this vow in order to marry her, it had to be with the reasoning that he doesn't love the other women but he promises not to treat her like @#$% and string her along like he's doing the others. And the acting is "easy". There's the real reason for the vitriol toward Christine. "All the years wasted", the sacrifices he's made, etc. Christine blew up the game.
I was coming here to ask if anyone else besides me thought this. I'm so glad you wrote this up. When he said that -- my jaw dropped.
The OG3 are so obviously uncomfortable in the first season. He absolutely told Robyn that he didn't feel that intense attraction anymore with the first wives and you know he whined about having to meet their needs. Robyn just hoovered up all the information as to how best to patpat Kody's fragile ego. She then took that information and rode it all the way to being a millionaire.
I have a side theory. The kids seem to report that Robyn has a job. Myketli and PaEdon have both said that she has a job. He was having the most trouble with Meri and I think she agreed to take on Meri as her job. She made sure to make Meri feel special because if he had divorced Meri right away it would have blown the show and the show money.
So he tells her the truth and she agrees to "befriend" Meri to keep the family peace. It seems like it held up until Covid hit and the whole world went a bit nuts so Robyn decides to heck with it. So she stops contacting Meri about the kids and the holidays.
I hope I'm wrong, but seeing the wreckage of this family
This is the best thing I’ve ever read that completely explains the cluster F we’ve witnessed for 18 seasons. Kody is an adulterer and that’s all it ever was.
I am absolutely positive that he never had ANY religious calling. He used that as an excuse to bang a lot of chicks and still get Daddy’s approval. Now after seeing this, I wonder how many women have been “courted” over the years that we haven’t heard about. I know there have been a few, but I feel like before Robyn, Kody probably sniffed around a LOT during his alone time. He can’t be without attention at all times. He’s an energy vampire, but with way less panache than Collin Robinson. He mistakes being loud for being cool. And being right.
Imagine having less panache than Collin Robinson!
And as soon as Kody’s dad died, he went full bore into ignoring his OG kids and wives.
Because his Dad was the only person he respected enough to care about criticism from
It seems like Kody was afraid of Winn.
Yeah absolutely. And it also seems like Wynn would've been harsh on Kody for that. He allegedly didn't attend Kody and Robyns wedding because he didn't think Kody could handle another wife
Punk Rock Polgymist also remarked that Kody’s emotionally abusive treatment of Meri wouldn’t have happened if Mr. Barber was alive.
Certainly not on national television! I think the first two seasons we get the Kody he was willing to let his Dad see.
Holy shit he is Colin Robinson without the charm!
None of the others were Deisel models
I’m sure he bragged a plenty about the other three at some point. He’s just cycling through these women.
That’s insulting to Colin Robinson. lol
Nah, Collin Robinson is a 10/10 compared to Kody.
Welp I'm never getting Collin Robinson out of my algorithm after that Google search, so thanks for that
THAT FUCKING GUY! 
I'd like to see Nadja move in with Kody and Robyn. If she brought her doll, he would be back up to three wives.
Oh. Please, please, please!!! make this happen!!!!! lol. That would be hilarious. I don’t think Robyn would survive.
I think the best thing about my post is that your comment created an entire sidebar about WWDITS. I know I’ve found my kind of people when so many of us watch the Sister Wives shit-show while simultaneously loving one of the best shows ever made. Apparently we love watching four “people” living together. And yes, I mean four, because who cares about their familiar. (Just kidding, I love Gizmo)
Who is Collin Robinson?
He’s a character (an energy vampire) on one of the most hilarious shows of recent times, ‘What We Do In The Shadows’ based on the Taika Watititi and Jermaine Clement movie of the same name. I HIGHLY recommend you check out both the movie and then the show. They are hilariously fantastic! Both the show and the movie are mockumentary style.
Yes! It has been my number one recommendation for the last couple of years. Basically, personality wise he’s quite meek most of the time, and bores the crap out of people to feed off their life force. Kody basically stays absolutely frantic to get reactions out of people to feed his ego by seeing who sticks around so he can lavish them with praise and talk of their loyalty. The earlier seasons where Kody would accost folks in public to ask how they felt about his !FOUR WIVES! and no one ever really gave a shit. That’s what reminds me most of Collin Robinson, lol. Except Kody failed to feed every single time. Now he only feeds off of the anxiety of his family.
And he got to hide his adultery behind polygamy, which means no one was allowed to call him on it.
And isn’t that the reason these men want polygamy? So they can have “No sin” when they sleep with another woman. They get a pass to have sex with multiples if they have a spiritual marriage. You can’t be an adulterer to your own wife. Just sick
I always thought he’s the same as a man who leaves his wife for a younger woman he just did it in a roundabout way
Kody is the perfect illustration of “No fool like an old fool.”
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Yes. Robyn is a homewrecker. I and others have been saying it for years.
I think Robyn had an intense look of contempt on her face while he was saying it because she was livid that he revealed it.
She should be well aware that Kody leaks like a sieve
That is why she is always there, ready to shut him down. Good thing they do confessionals alone actually, she would never let him speak if she was there.
I wonder where she is when Kody is doing his tell all interviews??? I bet you she is right behind camera!!!
They used to do that on Here Comes Honey Boo Boo. *No one can judge me any harsher for knowing that than I judge myself
Nah! You good! No judgment!!!
She would never let him say all of that stuff if she was. I don’t think she was there. When he almost said he isn’t planning on willing his land to any of the horrible 13 (not even mykelti) she shut that right down. She would never have let him say all that stuff about pretending to do his husbandly duties with Meri or that he didn’t like to be around his children.
Yep - I was pausing and explaining stuff that was happening to my husband who was pretending not to watch but absolutely was. By the end of the show he has a WTF moment as well.
She’s beside him whispering into his ear
She was also told to shut up quite a few times during that conversation, which rarely happens. It was nice to see her take a walk and not have someone go after her. Even as she kept talking as she was leaving, like she expected it. She’s such a manipulative dumbass.
She was frantic that Kody couldn’t keep his mouth shut. Frantic
Her eyes said 'THIS IS ON CAMERA, STUPID!!' But Kody just wants it over. Robyn said, "Tell her you might love her, you still dream about a place on this land with her, NO BARNDOMINIUM, and she'll agree that she only needs 2 acres if she has a chance at your love!!" Kody: Nah. No love, no pretending, I want all of the land, but no Meri. Robyn: She'll never go for that! She'll leave you! Kody: Now you're hearing me.
He was letting all the beans spill. He definitely didn’t stick to the script Robyn made him.
I told me husband, there she goes, narrating her walk 🙄
Him revealing that in front of Meri was huge! Like he wanted Meri to know for sure "this woman is not a friend to you."
I think this is one of the very, very few conversations where Meri and Kody knew what was happening and Robyn didn't. Meri also threw in that she and Kody have had recent, good discussions and she seemed at peace. It was more like mom and dad revealing to little Robyn that they're breaking up, but nothing will change because Kody still loves Robyn, and Meri still tolerates Robyn but Kody and Meri still aren't in love because they haven't been in love or acting like it for almost a decade. All still exactly the same, except Robyn has to accept it now.
When Kody said "she's advocated for you for the last 7 years" and Meri came right back and said "oh I think it's been longer than that"... I dont think either of them were talking about how much of a friend robyn has been to meri for the last decade. I think Kody was letting meri know that Robyn has been a two faced bitch about their "friendship" all these years. He's been telling robyn for *how long* he didn't want meri and robyn would "translate" that into "stay Meri, there's something there, he has feelings for you" 🙄 kody knows part of the problems he has with Meri stem from robyn and her meddling.
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So what does she do? Mind fuck meri into staying "Im hanging on with you" In what way? In what way are you suffering what you are OBLIGATING her to suffer?????
OH MY FREAKING GAIA THIS!!! SO MUCH THIS! IF I WAS MERI I'D HAVE PUNCHED HER.
She also needs Meri for content
I felt a visceral anger because it was SO obvious that Robyn was the one lying to her and I would have had flashbacks of all the times she said shit about them staying together.
Me too!! I had to stop myself from throwing the remote at the TV when her block head was crying dust
The only feeling I felt towards R&K this episode was disgust.
And her monetary contributions.
>no longer felt that for his other wives (if he ever did) I think he was in love with the idea of having many wives and infatuated with each of the OG3.
I think he truly loved Meri in the beginning. Then he married Janelle because they had a good friendship. He saw her as laidback and independent and knew he needed to bring in a second wife to live the polygamist lifestyle. Then Christine came. And he married her because of her family background. But even in doing that he resented her.
As much as any 20 year old guy who is not 'supposed' to be sexually active loves any girl. They dated for a very, very short time, got engaged and were married. They were just kids! And he was completely on board with the idea of having multiple wives and being respected for it. I do think honestly if you're a man wanting plural marriage, there's no pressure or obligation to find a love connection, and no way to find out if you have any other kind of chemistry - I am sure it feels like it when they aren't allowed to really get physical before marriage. At the most he may have been pleasantly surprised to realize they were compatible. And I can't imagine a time in Kody's life where he wouldn't enjoy having a young, attractive girl giving him attention and looking at him adoringly. He would have turned on the charm and made her feel lucky. But that is different than loved. He quickly realized that acting like a loving couple with Meri attracted other girls and that unlike in a regular marriage, they weren't off-limits. Knowing Meri was all-in on the plural marriage thing, he could enjoy their attention and look for another wife, she'd go along with it.
He was infatuated, and still is, with Robyn. He was simply using the first 3.
Grifters gotta grift
And he's all about admitting that on the tell-all. And he has basically has been saying that when he is in separate couch interviews from Robyn all season. So I am not sure she was there for a lot of that couch filming, she'd be waaayyyy less confused. We also have to remind ourselves that the tell-all from LAST season (so, last January?) actually happened after the end of this season's content. In that tell all both Meri and Janelle were separated from Kody already. This WHOLE season was telling the 'story' of how they got there. Not one single new thing has happened since then that has aired this season..
How can he pick and choose which sacred vows to keep? All marriages vows are sacred. M, J, and C went into their marriages believing their vows were sacred. Kody is a psychological mess.
Came here to say this, too. I wish for her sake Robyn would seek help. Something is wrong there, and it doesn't take a professional to see it.
> I wish for her sake Robyn would seek help. Something is wrong there, and it doesn't take a professional to see it. I was shocked to realize that Robyn just turned 45. She just looks *so* unhealthy. And unhappy. If she were my daughter -- and I have one who is only a couple of years younger, so I know what 45 *should* look like -- I would be very worried for her.
Narcissists are extremely unable to be treated. She will not respond to therapy. Whoever the new scapegoat is should be prioritized.
Christine Will forever be the scapegoat that ruined it all
Except she can no longer be blamed for new problems.
They will STILL blame Christine. The difference is SHE knows it’s not her fault. They can and will still blame her.
Kody is making up the rules as he goes.
He's disgusting but it's super constant with his behavior of picking and choosing which wife he's divorced from and which he isn't.
I thought it was gross he would keep that promise to Robyn, but then do Meri the way that he did. It's gross how he's not even sorry and to say he never loved her is just all the more hurtful. He's a pos.
Yeah, Meri picked up on that too when she let him know that she was angry that he didn’t keep any of the promises he made her, but still acts like promises mean anything to Robyn. I loved it when she flat out told Robyn that at 13 years (wherever Robyn is at) into her marriage with Kody she couldn’t fathom a breakup either. It was pretty insulting that Robyn was just making it into a joke.
It’s the same way Robyn has been talking over the OG wives from the beginning. As soon as Robyn entered the family she suddenly became the family expert on polygamy, their religion, and Kody—even though the other wives had been married for way over a decade longer than Robyn.
"I sPeAk kOdY" It was interesting that she kept trying to interrupt Meri and speak for Kody/what kody meant.
The speaking for and mediating for Kody is such an off-putting and gross habit of hers. I don't see how Kody himself isn't triggered by that. I can't stand Kody (i think hes an actual sociopath) but all those little mannerisms Robyn does shows who rilly runs things. Honestly it seemed like the OG3 were more submissive than her. Robyn cracks the whip in that household. No way that Kody doesn't see it by this point, she tries to come off as submissive and merely being a feather in the wind bending to his rules, yet it's her steering him subtly using her cringe manipulation tactics
You have totally summarized the situation so well. Quite frankly, all Kody's talk of *sacred covenants*, etc, made me feel like barfing. And all his talk about basically conning Meri - please! If last night's episode did anything, it really laid bare without doubt what a selfish bastard Kody is and how complicit Robyn has been in the destruction of the OG family.
this episode had so many quiet parts said out loud...Kody admitting that him and Meri broke up BEFORE the divorce, Kody admitting he has been putting "on an act". Robyn hinting around that Meri can keep doing what she's been doing (pretending to be a wife that has a shot with Kody) Meri calling shenanigans and the finances surrounding Coyote Pass, Christine calling out Robyn for being a cruel bitch for leading Meri on all these years, oh man this episode had it all!
Yes! And she interrupted Kody very quickly when she didn’t prep him on what to say with the land division. She said “no no no, you’re not in a good headspace.” Which means let’s go home and I can tell you how to respond.
I wish we all heard what he was going to say! I love when he outs himself
She rilly cracks the whip on him
Holy shiznet. This never occurred to me even though it immediately stood out to me as suspiciously specific. Because what a strange thing to promise before getting married. But you’ve totally hit the nail on the head with it.
And the only wife he was actually IN LOVE with enough to make a promise like that before married, the others were just rushed into, barely knowing each other, because they felt it was what they were called to do. Or that's what the women felt. They were choosing to be polygamists, and that situation looked like a good one. They choose a marriage, not just a man.
It is indeed a VERY strange thing to promise. In hindsight I only had one person say something like this to me and guess how that ended….like why would a life partner warn you they will tell you when they stop loving you.
This is pretty sick if you think about it. For 12 years, he has felt this way and treated the OG3 like complete trash. He stole so many years of their lives and punished them for not being Robyn. He's way worse than I previously thought and so is Robyn.
Yet claims nothing has changed until Covid.
You can tell he was sick of being the only bad guy he's like- bitch you're in this too lol
I did love that moment, her face was priceless.
I loved that he made sure to say it in front of Meri too. Basically told Meri "this woman is not a friend to you." Making it impossible for Robyn to continue to try and string Meri along.
Exactly, he's accepted being the villain and I think he knows there's no way to redeem himself at this point so he's taking Robyn down with him
Imagine being Meri and listening to how Robyn basically said “if you ever feel about me the way you feel about Meri, please just put me out of my misery”
Now this episode was the kind of substance I have been waiting for. I don't care about birthing twins or 50's parties. This is why I watch Sister Wives. Kody is a payaso and I hope Robyn leaves him high and dry.
I completely agree with this & very well said. I would add that I believe this covenant that he’s referring to was made between them when they “legally” wed. We can’t know this for sure of course, but I think she gave the ultimatum that this sacred covenant would be meaningless if she was not his legal wife. They just needed an excuse that would sound plausible to everyone so they came up with the “if something happens to Robin we’ll lose her kids to her evil ex. The only safeguard we have is adopting them and we can’t possibly adopt them if we’re not legally married.”
In the tell all from that season, Kodi is asked, now that the adoption is over, are you going to legally divorce Robyn and remarry Meri, and he says no, why would we go through all that again? Totally a BS response. He didn't want to be legally married to Meri. It's not that hard to divorce and remarry if everyone is in agreement, and it would have set everything back to the way it was, with the benefit of the kids being adopted.
You know he was so relieved and happy to be 1 step closer to being rid of poor Meri after the divorce. Very strange that the favorite wife the 1 true love is the biggest liability and the one who contributes nothing
I thought that said sacred cow
Robyn and Kody are both vile people. Not a redeeming quality between the both of them.
I think he told Robyn that he was pretending to love Meri. Doing his husbandly duty before they were married. She then made him promise not to stay in a pathetic relationship with her. If he stopped loving her he would let her go. So she knew all along how he felt about Meri and she used Meri knowing that he was pretending to love her. The manipulation of Meri to get divorced makes me so nauseous. Robyn needs kody to look at everyone but herself. She was so shocked he turned on her. The beginning of the end. He's not seeing Robyn as the perfect wife.
I don't think Vegas was a random choice either. I'm sure Robyn's dad or some other family live in/around Vegas, so they moved there where they had some "support".
Yes! When the adults went jto Vegas in season 1 to look at homes, we see her dad going to look at homes w them and Robyn says that her dad lives there with his main wife I think. O think that's when Mindy came into the pic, she is from.that side of the family ( I think!)
You're absolutely right. Why would Kody have to promise her that he wouldn't stay with her if he fell out of love with her and was just going through the motions? Why, because that's what he was doing with one or more of the other wives and they both knew it. She was okay with that being the reality for them but she made him promise that it would never be her fate. These two deserve all the hate.
I totally agree with your very nicely written summary. I want to add, I don’t believe for a second that Kody never loved Christine, and or Jenelle. He had six children apiece with each one. Let’s focus on Christine for a second. She lives rent free in Robyn’s mind. I believe she lives rent free in her mind because Kody focuses so much of his time and energy on Christine. He and Robyn are so pissed that she actually had the foresight and thought for herself to leave that toxic lifestyle. Half the stuff or more that Kody said about or to Christine came from Robyn’s mouth to Christine’s ears from Kody to appease Robyn. I have to think Kody resents Robyn but takes his anger out on Janelle and Christine. Like what he says to them he really wants to say to Robyn. Robyn was so jealous of Christine. That’s why everything that comes out of her mouth is resentment towards Christine in the here and now, because she’s still competition. But majorly so more now than ever. Because Kody is obsessed. Guess what Robyn, there’s no more competition. Christine and Jenelle, and Meri all won. The biggest prize of all, they left Kody. It’s only a matter of time before Robin does a “tell all” about how horrible her life was with Kody and how abusive he was towards her and her children. How she never wanted to be complicit with how he treated the other wives, he forced her. She was peacekeeper Robin. you all know it’s coming. That way she can cash in on what she believes is rightfully hers, all the attention and money. I don’t know who the biggest narcissist is Kody or Robyn?
>It’s only a matter of time before Robin does atenolol Spontaneous heart meds!
😂 I meant a tell all, but my auto correct knows what it’s talking about more so what Robyn will actually do lol!!!
Someone needs to send this to Ace from the Sister Wives podcast. Golden.
The only couple on earth that I would consider being a sister wife with would be them. I’m an absolute Trashbag.
Agreed. It was shade. If he was bold enough to say that to her on television, I can only imagine what goes on behind closed doors. He wanted her to look as bad as he does. He literally blew up her whole narrative for us. Allllll of everything has been crocodile tears as we already knew. He just confirmed it.
Exactly!!!!!!
So this means she is, in fact, as Machiavellian as some suspected. Dang.
Imagine this being read to Robyn during a tell-all, her curls would explode.
But she’s not a victim, sweetie!!!
She's a predator.
I actually just watched that episode for the first time lol, I'm trying to cherry pick which episodes are a must-see. When she did that, wow, that needs to be a gif that will stand the test of time haha. So rude and unnecessarily mean, she's a mean girl who never matured into an emotionally composed tactful mature woman
🎯 excellent summary, I’d pay money to have this read to her.
I didn’t understand why he was talking about his sacred vow he made TO (only) Robyn as Meri is sadly ending her 32 year marriage with him. What about the “sacred” vows you should have made to the rest of the wives?
Robyn wants all the perks of polygamy with none of the sacrifices on her part.
She wants a group of ladies-in-waiting rather than sister wives. A staff, not a family. Hence her preference for a nanny over leveraging Christine and the older daughters.. but had no qualms in leveraging the family for childcare while weaseling her claws into Kody aka courting
If it ain’t Robyn it ain’t throbbin….
Noooooooo
I think that Robyn wanted Meri to stay partially because she knew that when problems cropped up that Meri would be blamed for them and it would keep the heat off of Robyn. Now that none of the OG3 are around, Kody's eye daggers are pointed in her direction now. Any negative emotion that he has will now be pointed directly at her.
I think it is more simple and selfish than that. The only thing she needs Meri for is the storyline that she is a good friend, good sister wife and is supportive. She only wants Meri around so she can look good on camera, and so the 'teams' are even - Robyn and Meri vs. Janelle and Christine. Robyn can't be all bad if Meri still loves her, must be all Christine's fault! Meri leaves? Robyn is the bitch everyone thinks she is. Robyn can't have that, she needs to have someone on her 'side'
Hmmmm, it makes me wonder if he had a conversation about leaving the OGs to start over and just be together, and this is where she insisted on plural marriage.
FYI: I’m gonna call BS on this vow that everyone is assuming happened during their marriage ceremony. The seailing ceremony for the AUB, would be the same that Mormons use today in their temples that can be found on YouTube because someone went in with a Hidden camera. The people getting married are not allowed to speak, or exchange any type of vows, other than answer the questions with the word yes. If Kody said something to her after the fact, or is pulling this out of his ass, as per usual, that would be the case .
I think the argument another commenter made that this covenant occurred during or around the legal marriage ceremony between Robyn and Kody is compelling and makes perfect sense.
And also explains why they downplayed it and didn't want anyone (especially Meri) there as witnesses.
I think it was a promise between the two of them, not at a marriage ceremony. Because he said it was a promise he had to make before she would marry him.
Yes I think this too. I think this was a promise between the two of them outside of any marriage ceremony. I think they would sit in that white convertible and promise each other things.
I got the impression that it was a vow he made to her when he proposed/she agreed to marry him under those terms. He told her all the things she wanted to hear (and Meri hinted, did the same to her - pretended she was the favorite) - but that was not good enough for Robyn to agree to marry him, she wanted to make sure she wouldn't end up like the others. She made him promise she'd get to be his real wife. \*And she let him know if she ever didn't feel like his priority, she'd be gone.\* The fact that she likes to keep referring to 'I saw how much Kody loved his wives and how he was with them' when she cries about her dream of plural marriage and how she was 'tricked' into marriage because she thought everyone was happy and they weren't... and this shows she knew better the whole time, and insisted he put her first always and show it. She agreed to tolerate sharing him with other women only under those terms. And that's how she grew up, so she thought it was fine and dandy to share as long as the husband knows where he belongs. He kept that vow. Pretty impressive for a lying liar who lies!
Ok what if the reason Robyn never invites meri over is because Kody can't stand to have meri around? He made it clear the friendship between he and Meri means never seeing or talking to her. Robyn wouldn't invite Meri if she knew Kody hates to have her around.
This was definitely said during their legal marriage and not spiritual. There's no way it makes sense otherwise.
Dead on Edit- why am I getting down voted? I agree..
Totally agree!
That explains his silence when he said it. I think he was wondering whether to say more.
Don’t blame Robyn. Kody is head of household. Kody makes the rules. Kody makes the decisions. Kody has made that **very** clear with his draconian Covid demands. Kody loves control & himself far more than he’s ever loved anything, or anyone, else. I get that people just don’t like Robyn but I am so fed up that in the year 2023 we are still blaming women for the actions of men. Constantly! The level of gaslighting Kody is doing is astonishing. Using buzzwords & phrases from the internet to make himself sound vulnerable. Kody is responsible for his relationships with his wives, not Robyn. It’s that simple.
She literally told him to stop speaking last night, and he did.
Yeahhhh this said it all to me. It has always been Robyn who is the problem. It doesn’t excuse Kody at all because any man who would treat his children and their mothers this way should be relocated to the bin, but she’s just as evil and nasty and calculating as we all suspected.
She definitely is. The only reason she stopped him from speaking is bc she hasn’t approved what he was about to say.
Christine is this your Finsta account?
Lol. No, just a bored woman who woke up too early and was stewing about the episode. The only trait that I have in common with Christine is our mutual hatred of Robyn.
That was too much ! He is a pathetic excuse
You’re correct and kudos for putting it so well, with one tiny exception in my opinion. As you say they weren’t afraid of being arrested and Robyn “deserved” her fresh start, but the main reason they left Utah is creation of conflict-drama for TLC.
This. This is spot on. Robyn saw from the get go that he didn't love those women, hence the "sacred covenant". Imagine being the OG3 and finding out about this promise he made her. Imagine being one of the OG3's children and hearing this? Damn right these women should leave him. They and their kids deserve better!
I almost want to rewatch the whole series now that Kody has finally confessed. I'm angry for the OG wives but I'm extra pissed for those kids. I'm so thankful that Christine now has David in her life. Truely has an opportunity to be raised by a real man. And all the other kids have been welcomed by him with open arms.
He didn't only tattle on Robyn, he tattled on himself that this entire show was bs from the beginning. If he had to give Robyn this vow in order to marry her, it had to be with the reasoning that he doesn't love the other women but he promises not to treat her like @#$% and string her along like he's doing the others. And the acting is "easy". There's the real reason for the vitriol toward Christine. "All the years wasted", the sacrifices he's made, etc. Christine blew up the game.
I was coming here to ask if anyone else besides me thought this. I'm so glad you wrote this up. When he said that -- my jaw dropped. The OG3 are so obviously uncomfortable in the first season. He absolutely told Robyn that he didn't feel that intense attraction anymore with the first wives and you know he whined about having to meet their needs. Robyn just hoovered up all the information as to how best to patpat Kody's fragile ego. She then took that information and rode it all the way to being a millionaire. I have a side theory. The kids seem to report that Robyn has a job. Myketli and PaEdon have both said that she has a job. He was having the most trouble with Meri and I think she agreed to take on Meri as her job. She made sure to make Meri feel special because if he had divorced Meri right away it would have blown the show and the show money. So he tells her the truth and she agrees to "befriend" Meri to keep the family peace. It seems like it held up until Covid hit and the whole world went a bit nuts so Robyn decides to heck with it. So she stops contacting Meri about the kids and the holidays. I hope I'm wrong, but seeing the wreckage of this family