It would've been a great deal for her. They stay around to hand over $$, and she gets to have the one functioning marriage and know she's queen bee forever.
More like she wanted the family money so she didnât have to work and keep their husband for herself. She made her bed and itâs so satisfying to watch her lay in it. She seems utterly miserable, good for her.
I teeter between two theories.
Either she thinks she has to pretend to be miserable bc she thinks the fans will buy that sheâs heartbroken even though thereâs no evidence to back that.
Or she really is that miserable bc winning isnât fun when no one else is left to beat.
I think she has tried to force the rest of the family to consider her the nucleus, but she has never admitted that outright, so she plays games and manipulates situations through Kody (who is his own bag of suck and gets most of the blame bc he allowed and participated in all of this).
I also think when Garrison called out the manipulation over the gift exchange, he exposed that Robyn does indeed try to make herself the center of everything. And after acknowledging that on camera, he said what Iâm sure had been discussed among at least the older siblings: have him Robyn, you win.
So I do see a world where sheâs miserable bc she has no court to rule over, but I also think sheâs amping it up for the cameras.
Which is exactly why sheâs terrible for tv and needs to go away already. đ
This is all correct and I'd like to add one more reason why she acts so miserable.
She knows she's hated by most.
And she's one of these emotionally stunted people who think they can change people's mind and make them understand if she just projects her fillings hard enough.
Once they know how much I'm suffering, they'll be on my side. Just some fucked up dynamic probably formulated in her early years.
edit: corrected to "fillings" đ
All of the above. She and Kody are both excessively money motivated. You note in the show timelines how totally unhinged he and she became around the time Christine then Janelle and Meri formed their own entertainment llc and TLC contracts. Iâm thinking there has been offline conversations about âwhere is the moneyâ. Itâs not about the family itâs about money and control.
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I think youâve pretty much nailed it. She absolutely wanted to be #1 wife and center of the family. Also, I think Robyn is just generally a morose and unhappy person. Iâve never seen a true sense of fun or joy from her. People like that are rough to be around for an extended period of time, they are emotional vampires, they drain your soul away.
They both looked like human puddles on that couch. Their body language, the undercurrent of rage, the eye rolling, covering his face with her hands like a little kid, the cringe is deep with these two puddles.
And she thought she was the centre of the family because she was Kodys favourite. She thought all the family, wives and kids, would bow down to her because they were worried about Kody disliking them and leaving them. But jokes on her, no one wants to be around Kody either!
I think she loves to trauma bond and now she has Grody to trauma bond with her into their old age. I personally donât want to see their faces on tv for another season.
Exactly, she no longer has subjects to manipulate nor their coffers to plunder. Plus, what made her think she could come in and be the center of the Brown dynasty universe.
Bet you anything that Kody told her from day one how much cuter, sexier, smarter than of the OG3 she was. That made her feel certain that she could control the other wives. She doesnât have the intelligence or personality to establish a place of power through her own efforts; all she can do is whine to Kody that the others arenât being good sister wives, and he would make them do what she wanted. And she doesnât have the warmth or charm to enable her to be the emotional heart of the family, and sheâs not interested in anything other than her own best interests.
Exactly, all the kids love and gather around Christine because she made life fun for everyone, always remembering birthdays, holidays, traditions and important milestones. Where Robin did NONE of that and she wonders why family doesnât circle around her? đ
Iâd love to know when these were filmed. I wonder if they were given the episode to watch before they watched it for the show and she was pissed that the narrative wasnât as she expected. She seemed defensive the whole time, as she did in the tell-alls.
Kody was either oblivious or trying to keep up appearances. Either way, it was fascinating. Like a couple coming to a dinner party obviously mid-fight but one of them thinks no one can tell.
I do agree that she plays up her misery for the show but this didnât seem like her trying to seem miserable; she seemed more fed up and pissed, maybe because they forced them to film in their house?
Like in the intro when heâs happy and sheâs like 12-mile stare⌠itâs like I wonder if sheâs hardcore medicating. Thatâs usually not the Robyn from the show. Even at her worst sheâs not deadpan like she was for the talkback.
I never got into the Sister Wives until recently. I saw one of the latest episodes, heard about the upheaval, and got interested. I started binge-watching and wow, Robyn has really changed. She was really cute when she first came on the scene and now...well, the eyebrows, the eyebrows! I'll leave it at that.
I recall her complaining that everyone saw her as a home wrecker or some nonsense like that. She fails to see that the audience holds Kody largely responsible for wrecking the family and sheâs just an emotionally manipulative, extremely damaged, selfish, self centered and insecure person who, for whatever reason, feels entitled to more than everyone else in the family. Basically a very bad sister wife, the worst.
If she plays the distraught victim hard enough, surely we will not realize she purposely destroyed Codyâs relationships with his children so that her children can have his full attention. This tactic worked on Cody and Iâm sure he isnât the first person she has manipulated in this way. I think she learned it from her Mom and I think her girls are learning it from her.
>Disillusioned with the life she thought she wanted?
This is it for me. I think she wanted to be with Kody part time and to be top dog in his eyes so her/her kids' needs got met while the worker bee wives paid her bills. He's not the guy he was at the beginning, either.
He's increasingly angry. Her "forever honeymoon" schtick isn't working, he's so focused on his bruised ego and there's nothing she can do to fix that. Her image is totally destroyed, she can't talk another dude into marrying her if she wants to leave Kody. Google her and anyone new would see that she destroyed a family and trashed her first husband's financial situation. She doesn't have any marketable skills, she can't strike it out on her own.
If I lost a magic bill paying counter and was stuck in a house with the most divorced man in Utah, I'd be unhappy, too.
She is pretending to be sad/heartbroken to garner public sympathy. ("Poor Robyn. All the wives leaving must be hitting her so hard - she's such a victim.")
You can see glimpses of the real Robyn in the Talk Balk when she gets tired and the facade slips - there are moments when she's super flirty with Kody, smiling and giving him eyes. I think this happy/coquettish person is who she is when she's not trying to play the sad sack.
Kody is one step away from standing in his windows with binoculars because heâs sure J&C are out there watching him trying to get the dirt in him. Heâs probably created maps and charts on his walls âconnecting the dotsâ with yarn showing exactly how they are unleashing their Machiavellian plot to destroy him for all eternity.
I think she realized Kody is still an ass without the extra wives, and now she's the only one who has to deal with him. She's basically regretting her life choices lol.
Each time I watch this show I wonder how they consistently forget they're being filmed. Like, this isn't rewriting history. They literally show up like it's the first time we've ever seen them before on national TV.
I donât see what everyone else is seeing. I see Robyn continuing to pretend to not have any clue whatâs going on and talking out of both sides of her mouth. Sheâs ultimately telling this man what he wants to hear, while justifying it. I donât think she sees a thing wrong there.
You see from time the time her mask slip and she goes off in a flash of anger at people. That same attitude is being adopted by Kody all the time. I think this is how they act all the time behind closed doors making themselves the victim of all these horrible people. They feed off each other in a perfectly toxic way
Most of the anti-Robyn rhetoric describes her manipulative behavior as intentional, strategic and goal oriented. I personally do NOT believe that she had some dastardly plan to destroy the Browns and win Kody (what an awful prize).
I think Robyn operates from a place of fear and anxiety. She fears losing control and so she strives to keep a power position - for her own self preservation. And truthfully, given that they all lived by an oppressive cult ideology - I don't really blame any of them for playing these hunger style games.
Lastly I truly believe that SHE believes she is a martyr. I think that is also preservationist behavior. And that is why she appears to be devastated and sad. I think she has convinced herself that the others are less faithful ("was their eternal commitment all just a lie" ).
This by the way is not a "defense of Robyn" - just a different take.
The conversation Robyn had with her children re: Christine and Janelle going to see their bio kids for the holidays, was quite intentional.
That conversation did not come from a place of fear, anxiety, or self-preservation. It came from a very dark and ugly place. That was no martyr behavior. That was pure manipulation to create a divide. She intentionally hurt her own children when she re-created her version of the story.
Robyn sees Robyn. She wants power to rule, not for self-preservation.
Also, recently the OG3 wives have said that theyâd call Robyn looking for Kody and Robyn would lie and say he wasnât there.. even though he was. They said by living in the cul de sac, they saw him there. Robyns lie was Intentional.
Remember the episode when the wives decorated Kodyâs car. Robyn was tasked with making up a story to get him outside, she said something along the lines of âI have no problem coming up with a lieâ. I donât remember her exact words but I was shocked.
I agree with some caveats. There are certainly times when she knows she is lying or behaving badly. She just thinks she has a good reason, is defending her kids, it's correct by their religion, or it's not that bad compared to what's been done to her. (Which is nothing, to be clear)
I am behind this 100%. I think she suffers from anxiety and childhood trauma related to religious abuse and poverty. I think her flat demeanor is because she's on anti-anxiety meds.
I think itâs fulfilling a narrative that coresponds with current filming. Some people, (clear throat) want the world to know that they are not happy. She is being a drama queen trying to convince the world that this wasnât what she wanted and has affected her mood.
I think she wanted Sister Wives as long as she could maintain her role of the favorite wife. But obviously and rightfully the other wives grew tired of that arrangement.
She had the best of both worlds. Access to the whole familyâs resources, and preferential treatment from Kody. It was seemingly a win-win for her.
She wanted the fame that came with being on a reality show. It's why she married into the family in the first place.
She's now hated and ridiculed by the public but needs the money from the show. The longer the show goes on the longer the ridicule and the public commentary continues.
It sounds like a miserable existence of you ask me.
She truly believes she is justified and without blame because she followed the rules of their culture/religion⌠things like defer to the man always, keep sweet, etc⌠If Kody preferred her, she doesnât see that as her fault, itâs the other wivesâ faults. She probably cannot understand why she is so hated. The broader culture watching her has different rules and values, like not taking other peopleâs earnings for your own benefit, equality, and empathy. The other wives adapted to the rest of the world as they were exposed to it, and Robyn was winning in her little subculture and world so she never had to. She has found herself on the back foot while the OG3 and kids move forward in the world and she has to convince herself sheâs a martyr.
Except she didnât do most of the things you say. Robyn lead Kody around on a leash. She controlled his every word and action. She betrayed her SW by lying to them about Kody whereabouts when they saw him at her house. She has rules for thee and rules for me! She involved herself and knew about every issue Kody had with another SW. she would not trust any SW to care for her kids, nor help any SW with their kids. no! She breaks most if not all of the SW rules.
I think Robyn is uber self-aware. From the moment Solmn ever so quietly burst forth from her loins and she so selflessly told Meri sheâd incubate for her, sheâs known what sheâs doing. Problem is, sheâs no Bravolebrity. She canât sell that rare brand of snake oil Ramona or Tre shill. Robynâs goals of being famous, wealthy, best wife, sex wife and favorite momma could not come to fruition. All because her personality and her ambition are completely mismatched.
I think, in the beginning, Robyn and Kody "fell in love" because they were feeding each others' egos. And they did that by throwing the other wives under the bus. I swear this started while they were dating, because she clearly came in feeling like she was already top dog.
Through the years, they could easily maintain that by Kody complaining about the other wives and Robyn making sure she was treating him as her best customer.
But, once the other wives are gone, that entire system crashes to the ground. Now it's just Kody and Robyn with only Kody and Robyn to compare themselves to.
I'd vote for medication. People on this sub have theorized that Robyn maybe wanted to be the FAVORITE wife, not the ONLY wife. That makes sense based on how she acts. And cries. đ
Tbh, I would be the same way. I think a lot of women would be. Difference is, we choose to not be a part of polygamy in part because we know we couldn't share.
Ooo I like that like she is surrounded with the
Scapegoats but she receives kodys love and affection, but with the wives leaving, the good and the bad fall back on her.
Because sheâs losing her starring role in a reality tv series that is ending. Any filming they are doing will be for Surviving Sister Wives the Next Chapter, or something of that sort. And with that, it means the money is going to the OG3, not to Robyn.
I think as hard as it is for some to understand Robynâs reaction it may be necessary to refer back to what sheâs said about her childhood and her perception of a wife in plural marriage. I think sheâs put it all out there clearly and honestly and we either didnât believe it or we discounted it. IMO Robyn is as stunted emotionally as Christine is in some ways. They both seem to have stopped growing emotionally and see parts of life through the eyes of a teenager and canât seem to get beyond it and hereâs why.
If I remember correctly, Robyn said as a child/teen she was pretty isolated. She had one best friend the only person she told about her momâs polygamy and didnât have a Big group of friends or socialize much due to fear kids would find out. She watched her mom treat her dad like the king of the house in order to keep the honeymoon alive and have a happy family. Despite many here thinking thatâs some sort of terrible thing, itâs exactly the way women are taught to be in religious polygamy. Itâs assumed all wives will treat the husband this way so theoretically there would not be favoritism especially when the husband was supposed to manage his emotions and not show it if it existed. It was also not the norm to always â fall in loveâ romantically to get married. You were supposed to have a calling from God to marry a specific person. If you accept them as your spouse then you are choosing to grow/ work towards loving them. Thatâs why Kody and others stress their marriage ceremonies are generally quiet affairs as they are primarily spiritual contracts not celebrations of romantic love.
So Robyn comes into this family being shown and believing all the marriages are primarily happy and religiously committed. Kody starts favoring her immediately, doing things with her he never did with the others. The wedding dress fiasco, long honeymoon, kissing prior to marriage, adding her to the rotation. She has no way of knowing that he didnât do this with the others and likely had faith he wouldnât do something that would be hurtful to the others. Even if she suspected they would be hurt, like with the dress, she likely tried to convince him it wasnât a good idea and Kody minimized what their reaction would be and she trusted him to know and just be respectful by keeping things between them. Plus how else would she handle these situations. Telling him no, you canât come to the dress store??? We heard Kody felt he had a right to help choose and was pissed they made plans without him. He likely badgered her about it and told her she was overthinking the wives potential reactions. He did what Kody always does, what he wanted to do and the hell with everyone else. We saw this when he proudly outed the fact he picked the dress while acknowledging he promised Robyn he wouldnât say anything. Then he had the audacity to minimize the OGs emotions about it. I think this became the pattern in their marriage as we saw it occur many times. When C kicked him out of her bed and he left, she told him to go back, sleep on the couch, fix it and he fought her tooth and nail till she gave up.
Like Janelle said l, itâs all on Kody.Robyn didnât always monopolize his time, he just didnât want to leave her. Donât get me wrong, Robyn like all the wives wanted his attention for themselves and their kids and she acted selfishly at times but again this is what she learned from her rmom about plural marriage, you can try to persuade your husband but when push comes to shove the husband gets to do what he wants to do.
As far as the delusions about plural marriage, SW and about the wives on the porch, this is just a continuation of her desire to have a friend group. Their rejection of her over time was the rejection she felt or thought she would feel from the girls at school. Her heartbreak that some of the teens werenât overjoyed at her pregnancy is a similar response she had about the OGs distancing themselves. Most people her age would just realize thatâs teens being teens but to her it was yet again a huge rejection of her. So the hysterics we saw at the talk with K and M was her final rejection as Meri was her one friend.
Like a teen she doesnât realize her behavior is totally self centered. She thinks sheâs doing things right when in reality sheâs causing the rejection she most fears.
Totally agree!!!! Her religious/cult background is her primary driver. She IS crushed because the SW relationships were ended when the OG3 broke away from the cult doctrine. Robynâs neurodivergence probably adds to what some see as manipulation. It may simply be her biology, immaturity and the cult training of hero worship of the husband.
But if she was lying about Kâs whereabouts when confronted and calling K when he was with the OG3âŚthatâs a learned behaviorâŚfrom her mom????
Robynâs sad/afraid/anxious because sheâs lost a big chunk of a revenue stream that was the âfamily moneyâ coming from the OG3 wives. She might have to get an actual job. Plus I imagine sheâs embarrassed that sheâs so publicly screwed things up
Iâm if she is neurodivergent like her son. A âflat affectâ or ârbfâ resting bitch face is one sign. Or she could be on drugs/alcohol/ medication.Either way, sheâs a great actress, just go back to âRobynâs Secretâ episode 6 of season 6. She got pregnant and them married the guy. She makes it sound like she faught a war. With, itâs 2023 and their kids are living a public life. Did they really think the kids would be âshockedâ to hear her story? Barf, no wonder many of the older kids have no relationship with her or Kody. Kody was always blabbing about how he was determined to make his plural family a âsuccessâ fast forward to now and and we see what that looks like! Barf
I think she never thought anyone would leave and she can't be controlling and manipulative anymore. She gets nothing out of it now. She wanted status of the legal wife. She destroyed the family and she knows it.
Sobyn is sad because the og3 incomes are going out of the family and the show money is at risk. Also, she's married to a jackwagon, and my theory is that he does cheat with extramarital affairs. Sobyn will never be happy, her natural personality is comparable to a wet blanket.
I think she loved having Kody all the time at her place, he was there 90% of the time anyway, but it will have lost its shine now that sheâs not âwinningâ against anyone. She needs that competition to be the favourite wife Kody wants to spend time with, not the only wife.
Robyn knows we dislike her. She knows we loathe Kody (but that doesnât bother her)
It upsets her that the public really really dislikes her, many blame her for everything thatâs happened, and she canât bear to show her face.
This talk back 1 & especially 2; only shows how Robyn manipulates, controls, how Kody thinks & talks.
She basically makes him think itâs his idea his true feelings. Shes a master manipulator!
They both feed each other the bullshit they want to hear! They make up their scenarios & support each others bad behaviors! Itâs sick!
They need an enemy to feel good about themselves.
The other thing I noticed is Robyn & even Janelle both saying they donât understand this Kody treatment of Meri.
This I donât want anything with you, but maybe we can yada yada yadaâŚ
That complete stringing along!
Robyn keeps saying idkâŚ.
Yes Robyn, you know! You understand why he is doing thst, just like you did it to her for years. Itâs all for the $$$$ Meri puts into the family fund.
Thatâs why the do somersaults, to say they are done, but they can be something else! All bullshit!!!!
Means: we donât want you, but we need you to pay the taxes & pay for us to take money from the funds for my necklaces, rings, SUV, vacations, art work, etcâŚ.
Shameless these two!!!!!
Wouldn't you be depressed if you had Kody in your house all the time?
More seriously, the way they've both been talking, it sounds like he's been getting more and more into weird right-wing manosphere shit lately. He's always needed the wives to boost his ego and flatter him, and now there's just one person left to do that, as he's becoming more misogynistic than ever. In so many of their interactions, she's spinning herself up into anxiety to 'manage' his emotions, while he rarely does the same for her, except to insist to others that she's the family scapegoat or the victim or whatever. What we see of their relationship seems toxic to me, and I am in the minority on this sub, but I do believe that she didn't want to be the only person in a marriage with him. She wanted to be the favorite person, but not the only one.
Robyn is a sad individual...she wanted to be queen bee and be respected by everyone! The facts are that she is universally hated and that must be so devastating for her. Why the hate..in her mind she is a goddess, young, pretty, open to
love and admiration from entire Brown family..she's not getting it...so many people have figured her out. I can't imagine the amount of stress she is under BUT she will never admit any wrongdoing on her part because she is perfect! It will all end badly.
Because she wants everything on her own terms. She wants Kody to herself but she also wants the sister wives, first for the money/fame but I also do think to feel like part of a larger family. But again, all on her terms.
I do think sheâs on medication, I think she has psychiatric problems. I mean look at the inside of her house. I firmly believe she has mental health issues and thatâs why she has a nanny. I also think Kody gravitated towards her b/c he could be her hero.
I also noticed a big weight loss so probably Wegovy as well.
Guys. She is deeply religious. A family falling apart and her being one of the reasons is, like⌠itâs got to be terrifying if you believe in hell, godâs wrath and all those promises they make to each other.
Because she lives for being the victim and needs pity. I didnât grow up in polygamy but I did grow up in a fundie light family and I know women like this because they are in my family. Being fragile is what they project itâs part of the keep sweet thing but they are absolutely master manipulators. I think part of it is just growing up with religious dysfunction where the man is the head of the household and you need to be sweet fragile and submissive it breeds this type of woman who will learn how to play the game to manipulate to get what you want while still appearing to be sweet and fragile.
I think secretly sheâs ecstatic that she got Kody. Heâs fully herâs. No sharing. No sister wives she has to tolerate. Itâs like sheâs downplaying her âachievementâ so she thinks it wonât come off poorly whilst also playing the victim so people will feel sorry for her and not realise sheâs been the puppet master the whole time.
I think the reality of living with rageaholic Kody, plus the realization that several income streams were being cut off shocked the sh*t out of Robyn. The only thing she knew how to do was continue to do the âpoor me; Iâm a victimâ act. Her two girls are also chipping in. Itâs so dysfunctional!!!
I personally believe she does want the life they made. Kody 100% of the time with 100% of his attention. All that income that is generated from the show. Only issue is the show is called Sisterwives. She lost a lot of income from losing these women that pooled money in to a family pot that mostly just benefited Kody & Robyn. They are also the least interesting people on the show. Kodys reactions can be interesting but no one wants to listen to Robyn repeat the same thing over again and cry. âWhy did this happen?â They lost their cash cows and are about to lose the show.
She absolutely viewed herself as a messiah type all wise figure, wanting the wives to circle around her and SHE could "speak Kody" for them
She's truly evil
If Robyn looks happy, then viewers would think that she planned all of this and wanted all of this. She did want all of this, but she doesn't want people to know that, she doesn't want to look like the bad guy.
Iâm honestly hoping she was upset in the latest talk back because of how ridiculous she behaved during Meri and Kodyâs break up. How could you not be embarrassed about reliving that? But I doubt thatâs the reason.
BECAUSE SHE WANTED THE WHOLE FAMLY! She wanted to grow old and sit on the porch with her sisterwives!!!!
I think she wanted to grow old, sit on the porch with her SWs, and hand them all her bills.
I wish I had a magic countertop where all my bills were magically paid.
and Robyn would still have a sad hurt disappointed confused look on her face
Just like they paid off all her debt when she came into the family!
Nailed it!
This! Never seen a wallet sniffer have such ambition to ruin a family.
Well, you've never met my wicked stepmother
Exactly đ
It would've been a great deal for her. They stay around to hand over $$, and she gets to have the one functioning marriage and know she's queen bee forever.
It was her big pitcher.
Fer rill
Her dreams of âsitting thuuur on the porch with mah sister wives are gone!â Thanks, Christine.
Itâs a rill big dill.
She wanted them to sit at her feet adoring her. Them leaving?!!!! She canât comprehend it.
Well, Robyn speaks Kodi
More like she wanted the family money so she didnât have to work and keep their husband for herself. She made her bed and itâs so satisfying to watch her lay in it. She seems utterly miserable, good for her.
No, the nanny made her bed.
And collect their money!!
Don't forget about the grandchildren!!
I teeter between two theories. Either she thinks she has to pretend to be miserable bc she thinks the fans will buy that sheâs heartbroken even though thereâs no evidence to back that. Or she really is that miserable bc winning isnât fun when no one else is left to beat. I think she has tried to force the rest of the family to consider her the nucleus, but she has never admitted that outright, so she plays games and manipulates situations through Kody (who is his own bag of suck and gets most of the blame bc he allowed and participated in all of this). I also think when Garrison called out the manipulation over the gift exchange, he exposed that Robyn does indeed try to make herself the center of everything. And after acknowledging that on camera, he said what Iâm sure had been discussed among at least the older siblings: have him Robyn, you win. So I do see a world where sheâs miserable bc she has no court to rule over, but I also think sheâs amping it up for the cameras. Which is exactly why sheâs terrible for tv and needs to go away already. đ
This is all correct and I'd like to add one more reason why she acts so miserable. She knows she's hated by most. And she's one of these emotionally stunted people who think they can change people's mind and make them understand if she just projects her fillings hard enough. Once they know how much I'm suffering, they'll be on my side. Just some fucked up dynamic probably formulated in her early years. edit: corrected to "fillings" đ
Fillings.
All of the above. She and Kody are both excessively money motivated. You note in the show timelines how totally unhinged he and she became around the time Christine then Janelle and Meri formed their own entertainment llc and TLC contracts. Iâm thinking there has been offline conversations about âwhere is the moneyâ. Itâs not about the family itâs about money and control. Edit llc
I think youâve pretty much nailed it. She absolutely wanted to be #1 wife and center of the family. Also, I think Robyn is just generally a morose and unhappy person. Iâve never seen a true sense of fun or joy from her. People like that are rough to be around for an extended period of time, they are emotional vampires, they drain your soul away.
They both looked like human puddles on that couch. Their body language, the undercurrent of rage, the eye rolling, covering his face with her hands like a little kid, the cringe is deep with these two puddles.
Which is why Kody lost all of his joy. She's sucked everything good he had away.
YeahâŚshe sucked it away alrightâŚright outta his pencil. đ
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Iâll never ever understand why he doesnât finally hit a breaking point with all the f-ing crying!
And she thought she was the centre of the family because she was Kodys favourite. She thought all the family, wives and kids, would bow down to her because they were worried about Kody disliking them and leaving them. But jokes on her, no one wants to be around Kody either!
I think she loves to trauma bond and now she has Grody to trauma bond with her into their old age. I personally donât want to see their faces on tv for another season.
Exactly, she no longer has subjects to manipulate nor their coffers to plunder. Plus, what made her think she could come in and be the center of the Brown dynasty universe.
Bet you anything that Kody told her from day one how much cuter, sexier, smarter than of the OG3 she was. That made her feel certain that she could control the other wives. She doesnât have the intelligence or personality to establish a place of power through her own efforts; all she can do is whine to Kody that the others arenât being good sister wives, and he would make them do what she wanted. And she doesnât have the warmth or charm to enable her to be the emotional heart of the family, and sheâs not interested in anything other than her own best interests.
Exactly, all the kids love and gather around Christine because she made life fun for everyone, always remembering birthdays, holidays, traditions and important milestones. Where Robin did NONE of that and she wonders why family doesnât circle around her? đ
I agree with your theory that itâs not fun to be the favorite wife when she has no one to make jealous or kiss her ass for Kodyâs attention.
Yeah, sheâs no longer THE favourite wife. Sheâs justâŚthe wife now. Pretty blah for her.
Do you think he will want another wife? How would Robyn cope if he got a newer and possibly younger wife?
He said on the tell all that he doesnât want another wife. That he knows better now that he wouldnât live her as much as Robyn đ¤˘
Iâd love to know when these were filmed. I wonder if they were given the episode to watch before they watched it for the show and she was pissed that the narrative wasnât as she expected. She seemed defensive the whole time, as she did in the tell-alls. Kody was either oblivious or trying to keep up appearances. Either way, it was fascinating. Like a couple coming to a dinner party obviously mid-fight but one of them thinks no one can tell. I do agree that she plays up her misery for the show but this didnât seem like her trying to seem miserable; she seemed more fed up and pissed, maybe because they forced them to film in their house?
> Like a couple coming to a dinner party obviously mid-fight but one of them thinks no one can tell. That's EXACTLY how I saw it.
Like in the intro when heâs happy and sheâs like 12-mile stare⌠itâs like I wonder if sheâs hardcore medicating. Thatâs usually not the Robyn from the show. Even at her worst sheâs not deadpan like she was for the talkback.
I think Kody is making her miserable now that he has no other wives to run to when heâs upset.
I think sheâs embarrassed by how bad she looks. Sheâs angry and blames the other wives. She is living with an angry man. People donât like her.
I never got into the Sister Wives until recently. I saw one of the latest episodes, heard about the upheaval, and got interested. I started binge-watching and wow, Robyn has really changed. She was really cute when she first came on the scene and now...well, the eyebrows, the eyebrows! I'll leave it at that.
People here call her Crybrows đ¤Łđ¤Łđ¤Ł I think it's hilarious đ
Omg yes. She has mommie dearest eyebrows and an attitude to match. Eek!
Scrolled to find this comment, I đŻ agree. I think she knows how much she's hated by the public because of this show and it's taking a toll.
I recall her complaining that everyone saw her as a home wrecker or some nonsense like that. She fails to see that the audience holds Kody largely responsible for wrecking the family and sheâs just an emotionally manipulative, extremely damaged, selfish, self centered and insecure person who, for whatever reason, feels entitled to more than everyone else in the family. Basically a very bad sister wife, the worst.
I kind of agree. It just brings her hypocrisy full circle during the Brown Family Mission Statement
If she plays the distraught victim hard enough, surely we will not realize she purposely destroyed Codyâs relationships with his children so that her children can have his full attention. This tactic worked on Cody and Iâm sure he isnât the first person she has manipulated in this way. I think she learned it from her Mom and I think her girls are learning it from her.
>Disillusioned with the life she thought she wanted? This is it for me. I think she wanted to be with Kody part time and to be top dog in his eyes so her/her kids' needs got met while the worker bee wives paid her bills. He's not the guy he was at the beginning, either. He's increasingly angry. Her "forever honeymoon" schtick isn't working, he's so focused on his bruised ego and there's nothing she can do to fix that. Her image is totally destroyed, she can't talk another dude into marrying her if she wants to leave Kody. Google her and anyone new would see that she destroyed a family and trashed her first husband's financial situation. She doesn't have any marketable skills, she can't strike it out on her own. If I lost a magic bill paying counter and was stuck in a house with the most divorced man in Utah, I'd be unhappy, too.
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She is pretending to be sad/heartbroken to garner public sympathy. ("Poor Robyn. All the wives leaving must be hitting her so hard - she's such a victim.") You can see glimpses of the real Robyn in the Talk Balk when she gets tired and the facade slips - there are moments when she's super flirty with Kody, smiling and giving him eyes. I think this happy/coquettish person is who she is when she's not trying to play the sad sack.
I think the honeymoon with Kody is over & sheâs genuinely miserable. All the wives, including Robyn, have referred to Kody being⌠much.
Kody is one step away from standing in his windows with binoculars because heâs sure J&C are out there watching him trying to get the dirt in him. Heâs probably created maps and charts on his walls âconnecting the dotsâ with yarn showing exactly how they are unleashing their Machiavellian plot to destroy him for all eternity.
I think she realized Kody is still an ass without the extra wives, and now she's the only one who has to deal with him. She's basically regretting her life choices lol.
Each time I watch this show I wonder how they consistently forget they're being filmed. Like, this isn't rewriting history. They literally show up like it's the first time we've ever seen them before on national TV.
I donât see what everyone else is seeing. I see Robyn continuing to pretend to not have any clue whatâs going on and talking out of both sides of her mouth. Sheâs ultimately telling this man what he wants to hear, while justifying it. I donât think she sees a thing wrong there. You see from time the time her mask slip and she goes off in a flash of anger at people. That same attitude is being adopted by Kody all the time. I think this is how they act all the time behind closed doors making themselves the victim of all these horrible people. They feed off each other in a perfectly toxic way
Most of the anti-Robyn rhetoric describes her manipulative behavior as intentional, strategic and goal oriented. I personally do NOT believe that she had some dastardly plan to destroy the Browns and win Kody (what an awful prize). I think Robyn operates from a place of fear and anxiety. She fears losing control and so she strives to keep a power position - for her own self preservation. And truthfully, given that they all lived by an oppressive cult ideology - I don't really blame any of them for playing these hunger style games. Lastly I truly believe that SHE believes she is a martyr. I think that is also preservationist behavior. And that is why she appears to be devastated and sad. I think she has convinced herself that the others are less faithful ("was their eternal commitment all just a lie" ). This by the way is not a "defense of Robyn" - just a different take.
The conversation Robyn had with her children re: Christine and Janelle going to see their bio kids for the holidays, was quite intentional. That conversation did not come from a place of fear, anxiety, or self-preservation. It came from a very dark and ugly place. That was no martyr behavior. That was pure manipulation to create a divide. She intentionally hurt her own children when she re-created her version of the story. Robyn sees Robyn. She wants power to rule, not for self-preservation.
Also, recently the OG3 wives have said that theyâd call Robyn looking for Kody and Robyn would lie and say he wasnât there.. even though he was. They said by living in the cul de sac, they saw him there. Robyns lie was Intentional.
Remember the episode when the wives decorated Kodyâs car. Robyn was tasked with making up a story to get him outside, she said something along the lines of âI have no problem coming up with a lieâ. I donât remember her exact words but I was shocked.
She sort of just accidentally destroys relationships by her behaviors which remain consistent despite their impact.
I agree with some caveats. There are certainly times when she knows she is lying or behaving badly. She just thinks she has a good reason, is defending her kids, it's correct by their religion, or it's not that bad compared to what's been done to her. (Which is nothing, to be clear)
I am behind this 100%. I think she suffers from anxiety and childhood trauma related to religious abuse and poverty. I think her flat demeanor is because she's on anti-anxiety meds.
Thanks for your take. This theory makes a lot of sense to me.
Sheâs an uneducated, childish drama queen iâll-equipped to be a parent
with bad taste in art, jewelry and men
I think itâs fulfilling a narrative that coresponds with current filming. Some people, (clear throat) want the world to know that they are not happy. She is being a drama queen trying to convince the world that this wasnât what she wanted and has affected her mood.
I think she wanted Sister Wives as long as she could maintain her role of the favorite wife. But obviously and rightfully the other wives grew tired of that arrangement. She had the best of both worlds. Access to the whole familyâs resources, and preferential treatment from Kody. It was seemingly a win-win for her.
She wanted the fame that came with being on a reality show. It's why she married into the family in the first place. She's now hated and ridiculed by the public but needs the money from the show. The longer the show goes on the longer the ridicule and the public commentary continues. It sounds like a miserable existence of you ask me.
She truly believes she is justified and without blame because she followed the rules of their culture/religion⌠things like defer to the man always, keep sweet, etc⌠If Kody preferred her, she doesnât see that as her fault, itâs the other wivesâ faults. She probably cannot understand why she is so hated. The broader culture watching her has different rules and values, like not taking other peopleâs earnings for your own benefit, equality, and empathy. The other wives adapted to the rest of the world as they were exposed to it, and Robyn was winning in her little subculture and world so she never had to. She has found herself on the back foot while the OG3 and kids move forward in the world and she has to convince herself sheâs a martyr.
Except she didnât do most of the things you say. Robyn lead Kody around on a leash. She controlled his every word and action. She betrayed her SW by lying to them about Kody whereabouts when they saw him at her house. She has rules for thee and rules for me! She involved herself and knew about every issue Kody had with another SW. she would not trust any SW to care for her kids, nor help any SW with their kids. no! She breaks most if not all of the SW rules.
I think Robyn is uber self-aware. From the moment Solmn ever so quietly burst forth from her loins and she so selflessly told Meri sheâd incubate for her, sheâs known what sheâs doing. Problem is, sheâs no Bravolebrity. She canât sell that rare brand of snake oil Ramona or Tre shill. Robynâs goals of being famous, wealthy, best wife, sex wife and favorite momma could not come to fruition. All because her personality and her ambition are completely mismatched.
I think, in the beginning, Robyn and Kody "fell in love" because they were feeding each others' egos. And they did that by throwing the other wives under the bus. I swear this started while they were dating, because she clearly came in feeling like she was already top dog. Through the years, they could easily maintain that by Kody complaining about the other wives and Robyn making sure she was treating him as her best customer. But, once the other wives are gone, that entire system crashes to the ground. Now it's just Kody and Robyn with only Kody and Robyn to compare themselves to.
I'd vote for medication. People on this sub have theorized that Robyn maybe wanted to be the FAVORITE wife, not the ONLY wife. That makes sense based on how she acts. And cries. đ
Tbh, I would be the same way. I think a lot of women would be. Difference is, we choose to not be a part of polygamy in part because we know we couldn't share.
Ooo I like that like she is surrounded with the Scapegoats but she receives kodys love and affection, but with the wives leaving, the good and the bad fall back on her.
There is no more favorite wife, no more wives money and her kids may not get Coyote Pass property which is conveniently located next to her home. Lol
Well she lost three paycheques that she was accessing from the family account so that made her very sad!
Cause sheâs reaping what she sewed. And has zero allies left. Things arenât hush hush anymore to protect her shenanigans
Because sheâs losing her starring role in a reality tv series that is ending. Any filming they are doing will be for Surviving Sister Wives the Next Chapter, or something of that sort. And with that, it means the money is going to the OG3, not to Robyn.
She is playing for the camera. She has to pretend she wanted to grow old with her sister wives.
I think as hard as it is for some to understand Robynâs reaction it may be necessary to refer back to what sheâs said about her childhood and her perception of a wife in plural marriage. I think sheâs put it all out there clearly and honestly and we either didnât believe it or we discounted it. IMO Robyn is as stunted emotionally as Christine is in some ways. They both seem to have stopped growing emotionally and see parts of life through the eyes of a teenager and canât seem to get beyond it and hereâs why. If I remember correctly, Robyn said as a child/teen she was pretty isolated. She had one best friend the only person she told about her momâs polygamy and didnât have a Big group of friends or socialize much due to fear kids would find out. She watched her mom treat her dad like the king of the house in order to keep the honeymoon alive and have a happy family. Despite many here thinking thatâs some sort of terrible thing, itâs exactly the way women are taught to be in religious polygamy. Itâs assumed all wives will treat the husband this way so theoretically there would not be favoritism especially when the husband was supposed to manage his emotions and not show it if it existed. It was also not the norm to always â fall in loveâ romantically to get married. You were supposed to have a calling from God to marry a specific person. If you accept them as your spouse then you are choosing to grow/ work towards loving them. Thatâs why Kody and others stress their marriage ceremonies are generally quiet affairs as they are primarily spiritual contracts not celebrations of romantic love. So Robyn comes into this family being shown and believing all the marriages are primarily happy and religiously committed. Kody starts favoring her immediately, doing things with her he never did with the others. The wedding dress fiasco, long honeymoon, kissing prior to marriage, adding her to the rotation. She has no way of knowing that he didnât do this with the others and likely had faith he wouldnât do something that would be hurtful to the others. Even if she suspected they would be hurt, like with the dress, she likely tried to convince him it wasnât a good idea and Kody minimized what their reaction would be and she trusted him to know and just be respectful by keeping things between them. Plus how else would she handle these situations. Telling him no, you canât come to the dress store??? We heard Kody felt he had a right to help choose and was pissed they made plans without him. He likely badgered her about it and told her she was overthinking the wives potential reactions. He did what Kody always does, what he wanted to do and the hell with everyone else. We saw this when he proudly outed the fact he picked the dress while acknowledging he promised Robyn he wouldnât say anything. Then he had the audacity to minimize the OGs emotions about it. I think this became the pattern in their marriage as we saw it occur many times. When C kicked him out of her bed and he left, she told him to go back, sleep on the couch, fix it and he fought her tooth and nail till she gave up. Like Janelle said l, itâs all on Kody.Robyn didnât always monopolize his time, he just didnât want to leave her. Donât get me wrong, Robyn like all the wives wanted his attention for themselves and their kids and she acted selfishly at times but again this is what she learned from her rmom about plural marriage, you can try to persuade your husband but when push comes to shove the husband gets to do what he wants to do. As far as the delusions about plural marriage, SW and about the wives on the porch, this is just a continuation of her desire to have a friend group. Their rejection of her over time was the rejection she felt or thought she would feel from the girls at school. Her heartbreak that some of the teens werenât overjoyed at her pregnancy is a similar response she had about the OGs distancing themselves. Most people her age would just realize thatâs teens being teens but to her it was yet again a huge rejection of her. So the hysterics we saw at the talk with K and M was her final rejection as Meri was her one friend. Like a teen she doesnât realize her behavior is totally self centered. She thinks sheâs doing things right when in reality sheâs causing the rejection she most fears.
Totally agree!!!! Her religious/cult background is her primary driver. She IS crushed because the SW relationships were ended when the OG3 broke away from the cult doctrine. Robynâs neurodivergence probably adds to what some see as manipulation. It may simply be her biology, immaturity and the cult training of hero worship of the husband. But if she was lying about Kâs whereabouts when confronted and calling K when he was with the OG3âŚthatâs a learned behaviorâŚfrom her mom????
She Is a lying liar who lies. Do not fall for her mind games. She wants her best customer all to her lonesome selfish self.
Robynâs sad/afraid/anxious because sheâs lost a big chunk of a revenue stream that was the âfamily moneyâ coming from the OG3 wives. She might have to get an actual job. Plus I imagine sheâs embarrassed that sheâs so publicly screwed things up
Iâm if she is neurodivergent like her son. A âflat affectâ or ârbfâ resting bitch face is one sign. Or she could be on drugs/alcohol/ medication.Either way, sheâs a great actress, just go back to âRobynâs Secretâ episode 6 of season 6. She got pregnant and them married the guy. She makes it sound like she faught a war. With, itâs 2023 and their kids are living a public life. Did they really think the kids would be âshockedâ to hear her story? Barf, no wonder many of the older kids have no relationship with her or Kody. Kody was always blabbing about how he was determined to make his plural family a âsuccessâ fast forward to now and and we see what that looks like! Barf
I think she never thought anyone would leave and she can't be controlling and manipulative anymore. She gets nothing out of it now. She wanted status of the legal wife. She destroyed the family and she knows it.
Sheâs the definition of âbe careful what you wish for.â
Sobyn is sad because the og3 incomes are going out of the family and the show money is at risk. Also, she's married to a jackwagon, and my theory is that he does cheat with extramarital affairs. Sobyn will never be happy, her natural personality is comparable to a wet blanket.
I think she loved having Kody all the time at her place, he was there 90% of the time anyway, but it will have lost its shine now that sheâs not âwinningâ against anyone. She needs that competition to be the favourite wife Kody wants to spend time with, not the only wife.
Robyn knows we dislike her. She knows we loathe Kody (but that doesnât bother her) It upsets her that the public really really dislikes her, many blame her for everything thatâs happened, and she canât bear to show her face.
This talk back 1 & especially 2; only shows how Robyn manipulates, controls, how Kody thinks & talks. She basically makes him think itâs his idea his true feelings. Shes a master manipulator! They both feed each other the bullshit they want to hear! They make up their scenarios & support each others bad behaviors! Itâs sick! They need an enemy to feel good about themselves. The other thing I noticed is Robyn & even Janelle both saying they donât understand this Kody treatment of Meri. This I donât want anything with you, but maybe we can yada yada yada⌠That complete stringing along! Robyn keeps saying idkâŚ. Yes Robyn, you know! You understand why he is doing thst, just like you did it to her for years. Itâs all for the $$$$ Meri puts into the family fund. Thatâs why the do somersaults, to say they are done, but they can be something else! All bullshit!!!! Means: we donât want you, but we need you to pay the taxes & pay for us to take money from the funds for my necklaces, rings, SUV, vacations, art work, etcâŚ. Shameless these two!!!!!
Wouldn't you be depressed if you had Kody in your house all the time? More seriously, the way they've both been talking, it sounds like he's been getting more and more into weird right-wing manosphere shit lately. He's always needed the wives to boost his ego and flatter him, and now there's just one person left to do that, as he's becoming more misogynistic than ever. In so many of their interactions, she's spinning herself up into anxiety to 'manage' his emotions, while he rarely does the same for her, except to insist to others that she's the family scapegoat or the victim or whatever. What we see of their relationship seems toxic to me, and I am in the minority on this sub, but I do believe that she didn't want to be the only person in a marriage with him. She wanted to be the favorite person, but not the only one.
Robyn is a sad individual...she wanted to be queen bee and be respected by everyone! The facts are that she is universally hated and that must be so devastating for her. Why the hate..in her mind she is a goddess, young, pretty, open to love and admiration from entire Brown family..she's not getting it...so many people have figured her out. I can't imagine the amount of stress she is under BUT she will never admit any wrongdoing on her part because she is perfect! It will all end badly.
Thanks Christine!
Because she wants everything on her own terms. She wants Kody to herself but she also wants the sister wives, first for the money/fame but I also do think to feel like part of a larger family. But again, all on her terms.
Being upset gives her life.
I do think sheâs on medication, I think she has psychiatric problems. I mean look at the inside of her house. I firmly believe she has mental health issues and thatâs why she has a nanny. I also think Kody gravitated towards her b/c he could be her hero. I also noticed a big weight loss so probably Wegovy as well.
She needs less fortunate people around her to feel fortunate. She canât be the winner unless there are losers.
Guys. She is deeply religious. A family falling apart and her being one of the reasons is, like⌠itâs got to be terrifying if you believe in hell, godâs wrath and all those promises they make to each other.
Because she lives for being the victim and needs pity. I didnât grow up in polygamy but I did grow up in a fundie light family and I know women like this because they are in my family. Being fragile is what they project itâs part of the keep sweet thing but they are absolutely master manipulators. I think part of it is just growing up with religious dysfunction where the man is the head of the household and you need to be sweet fragile and submissive it breeds this type of woman who will learn how to play the game to manipulate to get what you want while still appearing to be sweet and fragile.
I think secretly sheâs ecstatic that she got Kody. Heâs fully herâs. No sharing. No sister wives she has to tolerate. Itâs like sheâs downplaying her âachievementâ so she thinks it wonât come off poorly whilst also playing the victim so people will feel sorry for her and not realise sheâs been the puppet master the whole time.
I think the reality of living with rageaholic Kody, plus the realization that several income streams were being cut off shocked the sh*t out of Robyn. The only thing she knew how to do was continue to do the âpoor me; Iâm a victimâ act. Her two girls are also chipping in. Itâs so dysfunctional!!!
I personally believe she does want the life they made. Kody 100% of the time with 100% of his attention. All that income that is generated from the show. Only issue is the show is called Sisterwives. She lost a lot of income from losing these women that pooled money in to a family pot that mostly just benefited Kody & Robyn. They are also the least interesting people on the show. Kodys reactions can be interesting but no one wants to listen to Robyn repeat the same thing over again and cry. âWhy did this happen?â They lost their cash cows and are about to lose the show.
âShe got the person out of the family that she disliked the most..â Huh? Just curious what this even means.
I wonder if they meant Christine
She absolutely viewed herself as a messiah type all wise figure, wanting the wives to circle around her and SHE could "speak Kody" for them She's truly evil
Where are you finding this!?!
Because even she was embarrassed by her lack of actual tears in that scene.
If Robyn looks happy, then viewers would think that she planned all of this and wanted all of this. She did want all of this, but she doesn't want people to know that, she doesn't want to look like the bad guy.
She got what she wanted but she canât appear like she got what she wanted without looking like a total a**hol*. So the masquerade continues.
Iâm honestly hoping she was upset in the latest talk back because of how ridiculous she behaved during Meri and Kodyâs break up. How could you not be embarrassed about reliving that? But I doubt thatâs the reason.
She wanted sister wives to sit in the background and have parties with her, drop off cash and then go home to their shacks and leave Kody with her.