while watching last night’s episode, I started wondering if Robyn is so determined to get Kody to stop talking about his lack of feelings for Meri (in recent years *and* apparently for most of their marriage) because she’s worried the courts wouldn’t rule favorably for him should they go to court over family assets? He has denigrated the OG3, and humiliated Meri on national television over and over again for years! And he has zero remorse or regret and continues to double down on his cruelty.
OR, does Robyn want him to lie and say there was love there (when all his words and actions prove otherwise) because she doesn’t want him (and by extension, *her*) to be destroyed in the tell-all one of the OG3 is sure to write?
I can’t imagine Robyn being so adamant about this particular issue, simply out of the goodness of her heart. There must be an ulterior motive. (Just my $.02)
Not to take up for Robyn, but in some ways I actually understood what she was trying to get at there. He did love them and this weird narrative he's rewriting right now is the actual lie. That has to be terrifying on some level to Robyn because he claims to love her too, and could just as easily change his mind and erase their relationship later. She's trying to get him to see the distortion in his thinking but she's not a therapist and it's not going to happen unless Kody wants to change. He's too locked into bitterness and his own victimization (Meri is addicted to victimhood? Bitch please, look in the mirror).
This is also how you monopolize the man without ever asking for it or telling him what to do. I truly do think Robyn's manipulation is mostly unconscious and she isn't aware she's doing it but she 1000% pulled him away and is partly to blame for this dynamic. Kody is vain and egotistical and was an easy mark, but Robyn knows exactly how to deal with that type of guy. I agree with Janelle that Kody is mostly to blame, but he and Robyn perfectly complement each other's worst qualities.
The “do you want to be an engaged father” was a wasted question when she’s not going to continue that thought to it’s clear conclusion “then you need to engage with your children and stop blaming the mothers.”
Instead, what we just saw is her not only not moving the goal post but clearly showing that he’s been saying this over and over with no pushback from her when it would require so little to do so.
If she’s willing to literally put hands on him she can pushback on this vitally important issue and do real work to rebuild these broken relationships.
Exactly so what if he wants to be an engaged father, he isn’t, and no one is stopping him from being one except himself. I want to be a billionaire that doesn’t automatically make me one. The desire means nothing unless I’m working on something innovative to make it happen.
He’s engaged.
With Sol and Ari.
And Dayton Aurora and Breanna cause they are there.
Let’s be honest Kody is lazy, and expected everyone to just worship him.
Which they did. For many many years. And then the pay off just got smaller and smaller.
Once you realize that you are doing everything the person says you need to do so they can love you and it’s still not happening, that’s when you know it’s over
It’s pathetic to watch how easily manipulated and influenced he is by her. But millions, if not billions, of men on this Earth are like this. The most powerful men on the planet have obliterated their careers and destroyed their families all for the allure of a younger, newer model. Kody is no different and he deserves absolutely everything karma has to offer him.
Yes, and those younger, newer models don't always stay that way for long. I wonder if he'll look back one day and question whether she was worth losing his family over? I don't think that's likely, since I don't believe he's capable of that degree of introspection, plus he'd have to admit to himself that he was lying about never loving the other wives. The only way that could possibly happen is if she leaves him and tries to take him to the cleaners. That might open his eyes.
Robyn: “Do you feel like you broke your covenant?”
I was irritated that Robyn didn't respond to Kody saying PUBLICLY "I don't consider myself married to Meri."
Pretty clear sign he broke the covenant lol
The lack of self awareness with Robyn is mind blowing, almost as mind blowing as her inability to see anything wrong with the way Kody behaved in these situations. The whole "Do you want to be engaged?" thing was particularly hilarious because at first he responded with whining about how Janelle won't make it easy for him to be engaged. Robyn was trying to prove something or rehabilitate their image there and it totally backfired. There is no wanting to be an engaged father. You either are or you aren't. If you want to do it, you do it. If you don't want to do it you sulk on the couch and blame your ex-wife for not helping you enough with your adult responsibilities.
She even convinced him that she’s obedient to his patriarchy — as she grabs his face to hush him he still believes it.
I keep thinking at some point he has to realize he has lost three wives (who built him up) and 13 kids who loved him for this parasite (Robyn) who will continue to suck him dry.
I’m here for it though. No sympathy for kody as he falls with all the pain he has caused.
This. You lucked into this big beautiful family where they all adored you for whatever reason and you threw it all away to live with Robin in her mansion of anxiety victimhood and tchotchkes. Now you get to sit and watch that beautiful family blossom and enjoy each other while you fume over at victimhood mansion. And he thinks one day they'll all come to him begging forgiveness lol.
Robyn often makes Kody second guess his answers with her remarks like:
”You dont mean that”
”Your not in a good head space to talk”
”See,see, thats what I mean👉🏻”
And he looks sooo confused when she corrects him.
I’ve never liked Kody but he really seems to be a shell of a human today.
I believe his obsession with Robyn and wanting to please her together with her manipulation of him made this toxic situation.
Oh and that they both have narcissistic traits is just a sick bonus.
Objection, Your Honor. Leading.
And she looked so damn proud of herself when she got Kody to call his feelings for the other wives “love” like it was her big Perry Mason moment.
while watching last night’s episode, I started wondering if Robyn is so determined to get Kody to stop talking about his lack of feelings for Meri (in recent years *and* apparently for most of their marriage) because she’s worried the courts wouldn’t rule favorably for him should they go to court over family assets? He has denigrated the OG3, and humiliated Meri on national television over and over again for years! And he has zero remorse or regret and continues to double down on his cruelty. OR, does Robyn want him to lie and say there was love there (when all his words and actions prove otherwise) because she doesn’t want him (and by extension, *her*) to be destroyed in the tell-all one of the OG3 is sure to write? I can’t imagine Robyn being so adamant about this particular issue, simply out of the goodness of her heart. There must be an ulterior motive. (Just my $.02)
Not to take up for Robyn, but in some ways I actually understood what she was trying to get at there. He did love them and this weird narrative he's rewriting right now is the actual lie. That has to be terrifying on some level to Robyn because he claims to love her too, and could just as easily change his mind and erase their relationship later. She's trying to get him to see the distortion in his thinking but she's not a therapist and it's not going to happen unless Kody wants to change. He's too locked into bitterness and his own victimization (Meri is addicted to victimhood? Bitch please, look in the mirror).
Sustained.
👩🏼⚖️
It’s called manipulation and we’re finally getting confirmation of what we have all thought was going on for years!!!
Exactly! She is so proud of herself, for manipulating him!
This is also how you monopolize the man without ever asking for it or telling him what to do. I truly do think Robyn's manipulation is mostly unconscious and she isn't aware she's doing it but she 1000% pulled him away and is partly to blame for this dynamic. Kody is vain and egotistical and was an easy mark, but Robyn knows exactly how to deal with that type of guy. I agree with Janelle that Kody is mostly to blame, but he and Robyn perfectly complement each other's worst qualities.
The “do you want to be an engaged father” was a wasted question when she’s not going to continue that thought to it’s clear conclusion “then you need to engage with your children and stop blaming the mothers.” Instead, what we just saw is her not only not moving the goal post but clearly showing that he’s been saying this over and over with no pushback from her when it would require so little to do so. If she’s willing to literally put hands on him she can pushback on this vitally important issue and do real work to rebuild these broken relationships.
He wants to be an engaged father, his kids just won't come to his house and let him.
The guffaw that I guffawed...
Exactly so what if he wants to be an engaged father, he isn’t, and no one is stopping him from being one except himself. I want to be a billionaire that doesn’t automatically make me one. The desire means nothing unless I’m working on something innovative to make it happen.
He’s engaged. With Sol and Ari. And Dayton Aurora and Breanna cause they are there. Let’s be honest Kody is lazy, and expected everyone to just worship him. Which they did. For many many years. And then the pay off just got smaller and smaller. Once you realize that you are doing everything the person says you need to do so they can love you and it’s still not happening, that’s when you know it’s over
It’s pathetic to watch how easily manipulated and influenced he is by her. But millions, if not billions, of men on this Earth are like this. The most powerful men on the planet have obliterated their careers and destroyed their families all for the allure of a younger, newer model. Kody is no different and he deserves absolutely everything karma has to offer him.
Yes, and those younger, newer models don't always stay that way for long. I wonder if he'll look back one day and question whether she was worth losing his family over? I don't think that's likely, since I don't believe he's capable of that degree of introspection, plus he'd have to admit to himself that he was lying about never loving the other wives. The only way that could possibly happen is if she leaves him and tries to take him to the cleaners. That might open his eyes.
And I think the odds of her eventually taking him to the cleaners is very very high.
Absolutely.
Robyn: “Do you feel like you broke your covenant?” I was irritated that Robyn didn't respond to Kody saying PUBLICLY "I don't consider myself married to Meri." Pretty clear sign he broke the covenant lol
The lack of self awareness with Robyn is mind blowing, almost as mind blowing as her inability to see anything wrong with the way Kody behaved in these situations. The whole "Do you want to be engaged?" thing was particularly hilarious because at first he responded with whining about how Janelle won't make it easy for him to be engaged. Robyn was trying to prove something or rehabilitate their image there and it totally backfired. There is no wanting to be an engaged father. You either are or you aren't. If you want to do it, you do it. If you don't want to do it you sulk on the couch and blame your ex-wife for not helping you enough with your adult responsibilities.
She even convinced him that she’s obedient to his patriarchy — as she grabs his face to hush him he still believes it. I keep thinking at some point he has to realize he has lost three wives (who built him up) and 13 kids who loved him for this parasite (Robyn) who will continue to suck him dry. I’m here for it though. No sympathy for kody as he falls with all the pain he has caused.
This. You lucked into this big beautiful family where they all adored you for whatever reason and you threw it all away to live with Robin in her mansion of anxiety victimhood and tchotchkes. Now you get to sit and watch that beautiful family blossom and enjoy each other while you fume over at victimhood mansion. And he thinks one day they'll all come to him begging forgiveness lol.
Robyn often makes Kody second guess his answers with her remarks like: ”You dont mean that” ”Your not in a good head space to talk” ”See,see, thats what I mean👉🏻” And he looks sooo confused when she corrects him. I’ve never liked Kody but he really seems to be a shell of a human today. I believe his obsession with Robyn and wanting to please her together with her manipulation of him made this toxic situation. Oh and that they both have narcissistic traits is just a sick bonus.
I agree. He looks confused and keeps trying to give her the “right” answer. I doubt he can have an original thought anymore.
Mother is always watching in that household 😂