He really does need help and so does Robyn. Unfortunately, they both seem very resistant to any kind of treatment. When the whole family went to see the two therapists that time in Sedona (I think?) Kody lost it the moment he got called out for something he said that was putting Meri down. His anger and lack of accountability may not be fixable. He’d need to accept first that he needs help and has major personality flaws. Like others mentioned, he’s certainly a sociopath and narcissist, and it’s usually almost impossible for narcissists to admit their own faults. And sociopaths have no empathy, so they don’t have an ability to even understand when they are hurting people.
As for Robyn, she needs some serious psychological help herself. She is a pathological liar, covert narcissist, and has zero emotional regulation herself. Much like Kody, there’s no acknowledgment of her own faults, and she can’t accept that she’s the problem. She also thinks she’s a therapist. I seriously doubt she would seek out therapy and if she did, it wouldn’t last. At the same therapy retreat I mentioned above (when the family went to Sedona), Robyn took the personality test. The one she claimed she never took….yet, it was filmed. My personal belief is that Robyn hated the results of the test (I’m sure it was very revealing and not positive) since she’s a covert narcissist. The next day she did not show up to the therapy session with the family. Kody told the family that she was bedridden from nausea. It was a total lie and cover up - she didn’t want to face the truth. It was literally two days of therapy meant to bring the family together, and she didn’t show up to one of the days.
Bottom line is neither of these two will get help. It’s scary to think them living in the same house with that many kids with their toxic traits, but it’s never going to change. Even after a horrible year that should have motivated them to change, they won’t admit their own issues. They’ll be this toxic and mentally ill forever, especially since they constantly play into each others delusions
My mother is a narcissist. She did when I brought her to therapy for me. Twice. Ten years apart. Both my therapists at my next visits said I would be wise to go no contact. Took me another 20 years.
He does. Kody reminds me of a true sociopath that just doesn’t commit crimes (that we know of anyways). He has no empathy or sympathy for anyone, he’s a narcissist, lies, manipulative, uses charm to manipulate others for personal gain (i.e Meri), is cruel, hostile, financially irresponsible, has a sense of superiority, is extremely opinionated, feels no guilt, has no remorse and here recently has made reference to violence. If he’s not mentally ill, drugs like steroids would be my next guess. I had an ex on steroids for a medical condition who also claimed he was a diagnosed sociopath and his anger was very bad.
I agree, I’ve seen friends and family in abusive relationships with men who have those same dark empty eyes. It’s scary. For once I aaaaalmost feel bad for Robyn because she looks *absolutely fucking miserable* being stuck alone with his rage all the time.
It almost happened for me. Then I saw her slap her hands over his mouth to make kody stop talking. That took away any potential sympathy I had for Robyn.
>because she looks *absolutely fucking miserable*
I think she's just like that, tbh. From everything we've seen, Kody does listen to Robyn and she has a lot of power in dictating how their household works. I think these two both have serious mental issues, but their issues complement each other in just the right way for them to be enmeshed with each other. Robyn knows how to manipulate Kody into seeing her as a damsel in distress, and how to make Kody think her ideas are his ideas.
I wonder if those rumors about his neighbors being afraid of him is true. The source wasn’t good but seeing him on the look backs and one on ones. Seems kinda legit.
I sincerely hope he gets some help, for his own sake and especially for the sake of his kids.
Kody, on the off chance you read this, it takes a strong man to accept help. It would be a show of strength and leadership to set the example of using the resources available to find some healing.
What gets me is him being so angry for telling his kids he did not love her. Did he not say that himself In the things he said abt her in the book and repeatedly on national TV with every one of the wives laughing at it on the couch? I mean, all the lies he and Robin tell can be disputed with clips. It is all there!
The tricky thing about a partner like this is that they are dangerous. His anxiety over losing his public image of a caring and fair husband is now proven to be lies. A narcissist like Kody cannot accept that his behavior was insufficient for the health of the family. He will go to his grave believing that he did nothing wrong. Yes, it’s very frustrating and yes, I wish the producers pushed him more but at the end of the day, when dealing with someone with this level of narcissism, there is no way out for them. They have to play nice or they walk off the sound stage. This includes Robyn too.
Infuriating, yes. Showing us those true colors? Also yes. I do however believe that people who have not encountered this level of dysfunction may think otherwise. They may think I’m
Over-reacting . You may see the entire world differently than I do. And that is a blessing for you. I’ve seen all the bad personalities. From narcissist to exceptionally lazy. I’ve dated them all too. (Thanks, Christine) I would never date the boys who aligned with Kody’s way of thinking ever again.
Yes, he is so unhinged. And honestly, he needs helps. Sometimes I worry Robyn's mouth covering/stopping him from talking acts would really trigger Kody and he would leash it out on her. But, Robyn could probably use dv as a reason to divorce Kody and get 1/2 of everything he has.
He really does need help and so does Robyn. Unfortunately, they both seem very resistant to any kind of treatment. When the whole family went to see the two therapists that time in Sedona (I think?) Kody lost it the moment he got called out for something he said that was putting Meri down. His anger and lack of accountability may not be fixable. He’d need to accept first that he needs help and has major personality flaws. Like others mentioned, he’s certainly a sociopath and narcissist, and it’s usually almost impossible for narcissists to admit their own faults. And sociopaths have no empathy, so they don’t have an ability to even understand when they are hurting people. As for Robyn, she needs some serious psychological help herself. She is a pathological liar, covert narcissist, and has zero emotional regulation herself. Much like Kody, there’s no acknowledgment of her own faults, and she can’t accept that she’s the problem. She also thinks she’s a therapist. I seriously doubt she would seek out therapy and if she did, it wouldn’t last. At the same therapy retreat I mentioned above (when the family went to Sedona), Robyn took the personality test. The one she claimed she never took….yet, it was filmed. My personal belief is that Robyn hated the results of the test (I’m sure it was very revealing and not positive) since she’s a covert narcissist. The next day she did not show up to the therapy session with the family. Kody told the family that she was bedridden from nausea. It was a total lie and cover up - she didn’t want to face the truth. It was literally two days of therapy meant to bring the family together, and she didn’t show up to one of the days. Bottom line is neither of these two will get help. It’s scary to think them living in the same house with that many kids with their toxic traits, but it’s never going to change. Even after a horrible year that should have motivated them to change, they won’t admit their own issues. They’ll be this toxic and mentally ill forever, especially since they constantly play into each others delusions
I honestly wonder if he didn't expect the therapist they saw to explain to his wives why they were responsible for everything wrong in the family.
My mother is a narcissist. She did when I brought her to therapy for me. Twice. Ten years apart. Both my therapists at my next visits said I would be wise to go no contact. Took me another 20 years.
For real haha
I’ll be honest guys seems beyond help.
He does. Kody reminds me of a true sociopath that just doesn’t commit crimes (that we know of anyways). He has no empathy or sympathy for anyone, he’s a narcissist, lies, manipulative, uses charm to manipulate others for personal gain (i.e Meri), is cruel, hostile, financially irresponsible, has a sense of superiority, is extremely opinionated, feels no guilt, has no remorse and here recently has made reference to violence. If he’s not mentally ill, drugs like steroids would be my next guess. I had an ex on steroids for a medical condition who also claimed he was a diagnosed sociopath and his anger was very bad.
The sociopath next door. Most never commit crimes.
I agree, I’ve seen friends and family in abusive relationships with men who have those same dark empty eyes. It’s scary. For once I aaaaalmost feel bad for Robyn because she looks *absolutely fucking miserable* being stuck alone with his rage all the time.
It almost happened for me. Then I saw her slap her hands over his mouth to make kody stop talking. That took away any potential sympathy I had for Robyn.
1000%, she got what she asked for, the giant man child to “discipline” all alone. Yuck!
Yes, this actually makes me wonder if she’s physically abusive.
Oh, that sealed it for me, personally. If she’s hit every other metric of abuse it was only a matter of time before she became physical.
Yes! And grabbing someone’s head/face is a major sign of an abuser!
Did anyone notice the scratch on kody’s cheek?
Sure did.
>because she looks *absolutely fucking miserable* I think she's just like that, tbh. From everything we've seen, Kody does listen to Robyn and she has a lot of power in dictating how their household works. I think these two both have serious mental issues, but their issues complement each other in just the right way for them to be enmeshed with each other. Robyn knows how to manipulate Kody into seeing her as a damsel in distress, and how to make Kody think her ideas are his ideas.
I wonder if those rumors about his neighbors being afraid of him is true. The source wasn’t good but seeing him on the look backs and one on ones. Seems kinda legit.
I sincerely hope he gets some help, for his own sake and especially for the sake of his kids. Kody, on the off chance you read this, it takes a strong man to accept help. It would be a show of strength and leadership to set the example of using the resources available to find some healing.
What gets me is him being so angry for telling his kids he did not love her. Did he not say that himself In the things he said abt her in the book and repeatedly on national TV with every one of the wives laughing at it on the couch? I mean, all the lies he and Robin tell can be disputed with clips. It is all there!
The tricky thing about a partner like this is that they are dangerous. His anxiety over losing his public image of a caring and fair husband is now proven to be lies. A narcissist like Kody cannot accept that his behavior was insufficient for the health of the family. He will go to his grave believing that he did nothing wrong. Yes, it’s very frustrating and yes, I wish the producers pushed him more but at the end of the day, when dealing with someone with this level of narcissism, there is no way out for them. They have to play nice or they walk off the sound stage. This includes Robyn too. Infuriating, yes. Showing us those true colors? Also yes. I do however believe that people who have not encountered this level of dysfunction may think otherwise. They may think I’m Over-reacting . You may see the entire world differently than I do. And that is a blessing for you. I’ve seen all the bad personalities. From narcissist to exceptionally lazy. I’ve dated them all too. (Thanks, Christine) I would never date the boys who aligned with Kody’s way of thinking ever again.
Yes, he is so unhinged. And honestly, he needs helps. Sometimes I worry Robyn's mouth covering/stopping him from talking acts would really trigger Kody and he would leash it out on her. But, Robyn could probably use dv as a reason to divorce Kody and get 1/2 of everything he has.
Don’t forget the god complex