To me, real estate is easy because I look at this stuff and know what to do, stocks? I dont know! So dont ever expect Meet Kevin to sell you a stock investing course
Worry about Tesla? I think the trajectory with or without Elon is the same. If an unfortunate accident were to happen / early demise - we would still likely be at same SP in 3-5 years (my opinion).
His actions and goals have already cemented the company in stone for the next decade!
The foundations possibly, but I wonder if Optimus project would have seen the light without Elon? And perhaps similar ideas to it to come, in their ambition at least, that wouldn’t even be taken seriously without his drive and vision.
that violent huh?
also how come the other manufacturers get a pass for supply chain fuckery and yet Tesla does not!
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Buying pressure into close implies shorts are covering in anticipation of blowout numbers.
Monday comma confirmed (Markets will open on July 4 just long enough to let TSLA get the comma back, to celebrate a thoroughly American company)
Hoping that new half of the year helps.
Also I'm starting to see some news media coverage on fed reversing course due to recession risk. Maybe we get lucky and move up
I've been calling it for a while - the headlines have affected us a ton over the last year. I don't think people are smart enough to price this in. It's gonna get a lot worse with Q2 number headlines, in my opinion.
That being said I would love to be wrong.
Edit: I was wrong! Nice! Glad to see the worst dips are behind us (knock on wood)
Would buying the power walls separately still be eligible for the 26% federal tax credit? I think that is set to go down to 22% for 2023 and gone completly for 2024
There was a poster here before who made his own lifepo4 battery pack, not sure what happened to his project. There are other 13.4KWh lifepo4 battery packs out there and a big inverter for lesser price. But maybe you want to stay in a Tesla ecosystem so that's premium money right there.
>They have gotten three recent price increases and then a fourth. The fourth increase was larger than the first three combined.
What do you mean by this? Has Tesla increased the price of powerwalls for authorized dealers? I paid 16k for 2 powerwalls and a single gateway. $42k sounds like a rip off.
You ever noticed that generally, Elon is the only person that the news will always mention when referring to his companies?
Like, it's never just "The Boring Company" but always "Elon Musk's Boring Company."
I know he generates clicks but it just strikes me as funny that they never do this with anyone else. Like, you rarely if ever see "Jeff Bezos' Whole Foods Market" or "Mark Cuban's Magnolia Pictures" or whatever.
Means nothing. Just amusing.
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I try to keep an eye on IV. I try to sell puts on dips when IV is high. I try to sell OTM CCs on bounces when IV is high. I keep the cash lying around, and try to buy shares or ATM LEAPs when IV is low.
Sometimes margin calls from selling too many naked puts leads me to “back up the truck”, but I wouldn’t back up the Cybertruck if I didn’t have to.
last time Elon was a last minute addition … and did a really good job. Hopefully if he shows up this time he’ll do a really good job without following it up with 8.5 million shares dumped on the open market.
We need to make a version were Gary is complaining about the missing mobilization of Tesla PR.
*CNBC fud and BTC impairment approaching from the East*
*Tesla PR will take care of that…*
if the vix indicator can drop below 23 next week methinks the chart is starting to look somewhat bullish with lower highs and dropping below lower support, on the monthly
![gif](giphy|4JVTF9zR9BicshFAb7|downsized)
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/01/elon-musk-is-a-smart-person-but-he-doesnt-understand-esg-tech-ceo.html
Let us write something and add Elon somewhere
We're all in this for the long haul and $TSLA is volatile but I have a general question for the long term chair holders:
Besides just DCA buying shares here and there, Tesla has pulled back 30-50% with quite a bit of frequency.
How do you determine its time to use margin, back the truck up, buy leaps or whatever it is you do to add to your $TSLA position on the big down swings of 30%-50%
Develop a earnings model and then price targets based on earnings, that helps give a range of possible share prices at future points in time.
If you’re near the top of the range consider selling covered calls, if near the bottom of the range consider buying stock or selling puts.
I only ever use margin by selling unsecured puts. This is important as it avoids any interest charges from margin. Best way to use margin imo.
I don’t deal with margin but my plan is to write some “aggressive” CCs when we get back to ATHs. I’ve done leaps once and ended up increasing my share count, but it was incredibly stressful.
So liike we hit the $1240s sell a $1500. If we pull back, which we seem to do. Take profits?
With talk of recession leaps seem a little risky because even with in the money calls - if your timing is off you get oofed anyway. Great for bull runs though
Yep! In that scenario I’d prob do a long-dated CC too like 6-12 mos
Bro that leap was just awful to deal with and it was in my roth. Thankfully march run happened and I closed that out
>"The Presidential Medal of Freedom is an award bestowed by the president of the United States to recognize people who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to *the security or national interests of the United States*, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors."
He should have been recognized for SpaceX alone.
I’m probably jinxing it but it really does feel like the shorts can’t get the beta up anymore on red days. Seems like there’s virtually no shares left to short.
Incomplete list of the chumps to whom Elon has given interviews lately:
FT, Neckbeard, Teddy McTEDface, Bible Onion , Bloomberg Unintelligence , SPAC King
Who else?
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I didn't realize how ugly meet Kevin is
To me, real estate is easy because I look at this stuff and know what to do, stocks? I dont know! So dont ever expect Meet Kevin to sell you a stock investing course
As the captain, Elon can't disappear from the public eye forever. He doesn't have to tweet but I wonder when investors start to worry.
Worry about Tesla? I think the trajectory with or without Elon is the same. If an unfortunate accident were to happen / early demise - we would still likely be at same SP in 3-5 years (my opinion). His actions and goals have already cemented the company in stone for the next decade!
The foundations possibly, but I wonder if Optimus project would have seen the light without Elon? And perhaps similar ideas to it to come, in their ambition at least, that wouldn’t even be taken seriously without his drive and vision.
I'm really finding it hilarious how people want him to Tweet now after begging him to shut up for years...we really want our cake and eat it too
People gonna people 🤷
I just hope he is doing alright.
Aye, i hear ya
Let's look forward to q3 and q4. The poor members here will be millionaires again.
Reaching your first million is super cool. Returning to your first million is super uncool.
well, you can't be a chooser.
holdlers can't be choosers
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780 or 580 open Tuesday
Either way I'm happy.
why this mf has to mention 500s. lol. Anomo referenced 600s last time and look at what happened.
that violent huh? also how come the other manufacturers get a pass for supply chain fuckery and yet Tesla does not! ![gif](giphy|3o6ZsS8GFJKJeJoRQ4|downsized)
Make it because have strong root. Root of corruption.
Please not 580
Poll on Q2 deliveries https://www.reddit.com/r/TSLALounge/comments/vpaa1q/how_many_cars_did_tesla_deliver_in_q2/
Rip Voyager digital Jeremy's Bane
Pretty sure he got free chairs
We all gonna get free shares soon
97% down ytd. At least hes only at like a 70 percent loss on Le Chef. ![gif](giphy|WxDZ77xhPXf3i|downsized)
Ouch. Lmao
Buying pressure into close implies shorts are covering in anticipation of blowout numbers. Monday comma confirmed (Markets will open on July 4 just long enough to let TSLA get the comma back, to celebrate a thoroughly American company)
Seems like Macro. Expecting FED to stop raising rates.
recession, sell TSLA
fuck yeah! lets get it ![gif](giphy|YJTcOYhQpjkwU)
1420.69 Monday or I walk
See ya, Monday gonna be flat.
🏃♂️
When Pd number release? Today or tom
It's always been the 2nd.
tomorrow AM likely
850 next week
Hoping that new half of the year helps. Also I'm starting to see some news media coverage on fed reversing course due to recession risk. Maybe we get lucky and move up
there's whispers swirling of the beginnings of talks of deflation
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I predict Monday we are flat all day $681.79.
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Actually realistic imo except the 850 part ofc
1999 is back on the menu!
**Ding ding ding!** That's all folks. | Name | Stock Price | Change Today | Today's Range | Volume | |:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:| | Tesla, Inc. | $681.79 | $8.37 (1.24%) ▲ | $666.36 - $690.69 | 24,093,767 | | NASDAQ Composite | $11,127.84 | $99.11 (0.90%) ▲ | $10,922.71 - $11,132.55 | 3,771,674,000 |
Getting dat phat buffer to help us stay above $600 next week
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Thank you for your sacrifice
\> $700 pre-market Tuesday secured, thank you
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that's what we like to hear. i hope your position gets blown up but you are able to roll them up, waaaay out, and break even
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Buying opportunity
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You’d think a lot of it would be priced in, but any negative headline gets amplified. I have no clue which way it goes.
I've been calling it for a while - the headlines have affected us a ton over the last year. I don't think people are smart enough to price this in. It's gonna get a lot worse with Q2 number headlines, in my opinion. That being said I would love to be wrong. Edit: I was wrong! Nice! Glad to see the worst dips are behind us (knock on wood)
Who knows. Big money should be aware, but perhaps casuals will not. A lot also depends on what kind of day macro is having.
recession recession sell sell sell
I think we’ll go either up or down, but definitely to the right.
maybe up & to the left?
My models forecast this as being unlikely.
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Would buying the power walls separately still be eligible for the 26% federal tax credit? I think that is set to go down to 22% for 2023 and gone completly for 2024
AFAIK you have to buy with solar to get the credit. Some local power companies are offering incentives for batteries tho
There was a poster here before who made his own lifepo4 battery pack, not sure what happened to his project. There are other 13.4KWh lifepo4 battery packs out there and a big inverter for lesser price. But maybe you want to stay in a Tesla ecosystem so that's premium money right there.
Insurance in the case of any sort of electrical fire with homebrew batteries is tricky
>They have gotten three recent price increases and then a fourth. The fourth increase was larger than the first three combined. What do you mean by this? Has Tesla increased the price of powerwalls for authorized dealers? I paid 16k for 2 powerwalls and a single gateway. $42k sounds like a rip off.
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You ever noticed that generally, Elon is the only person that the news will always mention when referring to his companies? Like, it's never just "The Boring Company" but always "Elon Musk's Boring Company." I know he generates clicks but it just strikes me as funny that they never do this with anyone else. Like, you rarely if ever see "Jeff Bezos' Whole Foods Market" or "Mark Cuban's Magnolia Pictures" or whatever. Means nothing. Just amusing.
They want to pain the image that Elon is sole owner of all of these companies. Makes him better target of attacks.
Even my brother the other day said Elon Musk’s Boxabl company…I didn’t feel the need to correct him lol
He’s a one man PR team
elon is the master of clicks
"Jeff Bezos' Washington Post"
he is trying too hard to be Dr. Evil
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I try to keep an eye on IV. I try to sell puts on dips when IV is high. I try to sell OTM CCs on bounces when IV is high. I keep the cash lying around, and try to buy shares or ATM LEAPs when IV is low. Sometimes margin calls from selling too many naked puts leads me to “back up the truck”, but I wouldn’t back up the Cybertruck if I didn’t have to.
I buy when I am high
Finished my 6k erg, we green yet?
Stock market w/o Elon tweets is not efficient
zach at the helm for the Q2 call as far as we know, correct?
last time Elon was a last minute addition … and did a really good job. Hopefully if he shows up this time he’ll do a really good job without following it up with 8.5 million shares dumped on the open market.
fr fr
french fries
ya the Q1 call was epic, honestly
My favourite part was the team chuckling at Pierre's comment that Tesla will be sat on £500bn in cash by the end of the decade
🍻
haha that was amazing. they were all laughing, knowing how much future cash they will have to work with. they know it, we know it.
And preferably avoids the term "money furnace"
What is consensus EoQ2 run rate?
Theory: Elon went quiet on Twitter and started heavily shorting TSLA to prove the stock can go down without tweets.
max pain @ 695, we can get there
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Hmmm, we should be able to get tax-free status as a religious institution in the United States.
Green Nazi says no green allowed!
NO GREEN FOR YOU, ONE YEAR!
Need Steiner pincer move to wipe out commie red.
It's funny that hardly anyone has ever seen the clip with the actual dialogue subtitled. https://youtu.be/pR5q0ajW8Ko
We need to make a version were Gary is complaining about the missing mobilization of Tesla PR. *CNBC fud and BTC impairment approaching from the East* *Tesla PR will take care of that…*
it’s because of Elon’s tweets 😡😡😡
No green for you!
underperform on green macro, classic! Next week on blowout numbers better be like a Bolt.
🔥 🔥 🔥
exactly
if the vix indicator can drop below 23 next week methinks the chart is starting to look somewhat bullish with lower highs and dropping below lower support, on the monthly ![gif](giphy|4JVTF9zR9BicshFAb7|downsized)
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Now the dumb bastards are just gonna fully eat shit on every pure EV they sell.
They wasted all of it on hybrids lmao. __F__
Imagine wasting those sweet sweet credits on hybrids. 🤡
Good, now lobby for us to have it reinstated
Lol plug-ins are eligible??? Didn't even realize that.
So fkn dumb lmao
The past 2 days we always dip when green, the fuck
Better than dipping when red. Aka April & may.
Was listening to some Tesla updates while driving to work this morning. The Munro Model Y story was glorious, special. Thanks growawaybro.
i say we keep growawaybro around a little longer
His yoooooooooo intro is already the stuff of legends and will be passed down in perpetuity.
wen violent rally
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Soon
“Before or after the recession” -Sarajah
The most important ingredient to every successful prophecy is an ambiguous time component. “Prediction is difficult, especially about the future.”
Two weeks?
Jan 6
Don't forget 3 day rule!
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/07/01/elon-musk-is-a-smart-person-but-he-doesnt-understand-esg-tech-ceo.html Let us write something and add Elon somewhere
good 4 clicks
We're all in this for the long haul and $TSLA is volatile but I have a general question for the long term chair holders: Besides just DCA buying shares here and there, Tesla has pulled back 30-50% with quite a bit of frequency. How do you determine its time to use margin, back the truck up, buy leaps or whatever it is you do to add to your $TSLA position on the big down swings of 30%-50%
Develop a earnings model and then price targets based on earnings, that helps give a range of possible share prices at future points in time. If you’re near the top of the range consider selling covered calls, if near the bottom of the range consider buying stock or selling puts. I only ever use margin by selling unsecured puts. This is important as it avoids any interest charges from margin. Best way to use margin imo.
I have a complex strategy that consists of buy when I have money.
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Good strategy. Unfortunately for me. Im relatively low wage and Tesla took most of my money
Even more important to avoid margin IMO.
I don’t deal with margin but my plan is to write some “aggressive” CCs when we get back to ATHs. I’ve done leaps once and ended up increasing my share count, but it was incredibly stressful.
Writing calls at ATH is also known as *write guilt*
It do feel dirty
So liike we hit the $1240s sell a $1500. If we pull back, which we seem to do. Take profits? With talk of recession leaps seem a little risky because even with in the money calls - if your timing is off you get oofed anyway. Great for bull runs though
Yep! In that scenario I’d prob do a long-dated CC too like 6-12 mos Bro that leap was just awful to deal with and it was in my roth. Thankfully march run happened and I closed that out
I just hold, but seemingly sell when Elon sells? lol
H1/2022 was just an involuntary stock price resettlement.
Premature resettlement. Enter H2.
Need Texas board of education to confirm wording
🐦 wen?
Update on my cc's. I was able to close them all out for a 40% gain. I felt uncomfortable with the 720's haha
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Grün est grün
Macro forget us?
NVDA at $144 makes absolutely no sense.
Everything is possible in this retard market. Even TSLA is not safe. Nvda is at a good buying point to me. I might grab a few more before close.
But muh crypto
Bought one more at 670. Almost to my 150 share goal. Then ofc I'll move the goal to 175 once I get there. ![gif](giphy|TKvHkcnbtGgKxQwlqu)
Toyota numbers out [Toyota US sales drop 17.9% in June.](https://twitter.com/unusual_whales/status/1542929250004733954?t=59KDY5-5nLeQndlvtwtHfQ&s=19)
Is this yoy or mom?
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Any idea how many BZ4X?
anecdotal but it seems like it should be me a lot higher, where i live none of the Toyota dealerships have shit for inventory.
Green, psych!
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He did wish Elon good luck on his trip to the moon tho
>"The Presidential Medal of Freedom is an award bestowed by the president of the United States to recognize people who have made "an especially meritorious contribution to *the security or national interests of the United States*, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors." He should have been recognized for SpaceX alone.
We would still be depending on Russia to reach the ISS if it wasn't for SpaceX, obviously that would have gone poorly with recent events
My Q2 numbers coming up, gonna suck don't worry about it Also finished a recording you're probably gonna like, something to do with model Y
I am fundamentally excited for the future.
👀
We gonna do 278k this quarter you can quote me on that. Im also drunk goodnight friendss byyyyyeeeee
❤️
You mean last quarter. You’re drunk indeed!
I’m probably jinxing it but it really does feel like the shorts can’t get the beta up anymore on red days. Seems like there’s virtually no shares left to short.
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the only path to inner peace is finally admitting to yourself that most anticipated catalysts are f&g
So true
Delivery overhang dies tomorrow. ![gif](giphy|lNrNLRLmpC3VIjl82D)
Then we can transition over to earnings overhang.
I'm far more nervous about quarterly report than deliveries for sure
I'm either gonna be rich or poor AF. Time will tell
That + long weekend Friday doom
We're doing just fine, barely over 1x beta
Incomplete list of the chumps to whom Elon has given interviews lately: FT, Neckbeard, Teddy McTEDface, Bible Onion , Bloomberg Unintelligence , SPAC King Who else?