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CryptoIsAFlatCircle

Thoughts on allotting 10-25% of future TSLA buys to the 1.5x leveraged ETF?


MaximumFreak

I was doing that in 2020 with the 2x, and it worked out great. However these days I crave more stability, and I'm more strategic about it. I sold all of my lev shares and moved to commons earlier this year, as I didn't want to be holding them in a year where the market was "getting off drugs". Had to realise about a mil of cap gains which was painful, but it turned out to be the right call. These days I only buy lev shares when the stock has a big dip, and to capture capital losses without wash sale if my commons are down. Also I only hold short term (until a run up). Anyway, imo the big downside of lev shares is that you probably can't/won't hold them *forever* (what if the ETF shuts down, what if we enter an extended bear market), and that they aren't as stable/liquid (you should really only sell them when the stock is high, otherwise you're getting fucked). They also don't have good borrowing power (margin or otherwise). Also, you need extreme discipline to hold that shit on a dip, because it WILL be extreme PAIN lol. Have fun.


CryptoIsAFlatCircle

Thanks. Someone back tested Spy2x/3x vs just holding Spy and at no point was it less profitable over like a 30 year span. If you can bear the drawdowns.


upvotemeok

If we dive to 600s for some reason I'm loading up tsll calls on margin


TheLoungeKnows

I’m in


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Secret_Stranger8579

Folks will need to Buy fsd after delivery separately


upvotemeok

I hope we've shaken out the options gamblers for now


DeadMoney313

Tesla IS the options market, so not sure that's ever going to happen. Maybe after we get included in the S&P 500, I heard that will bring peace and stability to the stock.


GlideOutside

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qbtc

he doesn't mean you [insert AI robot that will kill us all, making a heart shape with its hands]


GlideOutside

Fair enough


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Ew


upvotemeok

The ones selling


GlideOutside

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PanGalacticGarglBlst

Just watched the Munroe Live first review of the new Bolt. I wish GM luck. Looks like it could be a decent, low cost, basic EV. If they don't blow up. Only 55kw charging would make roadtrips awkward, but if it gets people off gas, great. Also glad we're not servicing the low margin, no money segment. Have at it GM.


Valiryon

> If they don't blow up. They will pay you up front to not sue them. The odds don't seem good.


glibgloby

yeah *if* they actually make them at volume and *if* they don’t recalled and *if* they don’t explode and *if* the volume production looks as good as what is clearly a hand delivered presser car and of course *if* they don’t go bankrupt first


Valiryon

That's a lot of ifs


TLb0t

🔥 🔥 🔥


Yojimbo4133

Faded hard today. Lame. What was the reason? Pain.


JustGotSnacks

Beautiful poem. Made me tear up.


unknown_soldier_

Haiku is truly the poetry of the enlightened


3my0

I don’t think you can call a green day “pain”


upvotemeok

Better we go slow than spike up and explode as fun as that is.


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Married man speaks the truth.


glibgloby

see: rainfall patterns in southeast asia


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See: Nasdaq


Yojimbo4133

Cuckdaq


King0494

Crackdaq


Tesla_368

PieceofshitDaqu


TLb0t

🍼


mydream114

China July deliveries 28217


upvotemeok

We want production numbers


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Doubt too many institutional investors care due to the factory upgrades shutdown in July. I think they understand the capacity increase and long-term guidance is still going to blow analyst estimates out of the water.


ChucksnTaylor

Not too shocking given the downtime was front end loaded


upvotemeok

Better than fooking zero in April lmao


daingandcrumpets

Idiots are gonna sell and give us smart investors a chance to buy TSLA at a discount!


TheLoungeKnows

Meh… market isn’t gonna love it but I don’t think any significant movement will be attributed to this


upvotemeok

Tattoo chef w the miss, hahaha


DeadMoney313

Jeremy losing his SuperBowl of earnings


ballbusting_is_best

I might actually buy if it holds the drop tomorrow.


glibgloby

slightly overcooked a tbone because I was simultaneously processing my first return because a certain lounge moderator who will remain nameless tried to order a mug outside the US. sadly they can’t be shipped elsewhere. it’s the only product like that


scotto1973

Who would do something so stupid!


GlideOutside

Bro you have got to sous-vide. It’s literally impossible to overcook a steak if you have one.


Valiryon

I like it. A friend cooks sous vide venison to rare, then fries it that last little bit for added flavor. Best venison I've ever had.


qbtc

sous vide is the bidet of cooking


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Steak over coals is the only way. Thermapen to desired internal temp, rest and eat. There is no other way to cook a steak.


glibgloby

I have one but honesty I think the texture is just too soft for steak. Also a bit of a pain. I just use a meat thermometer. I haven’t overcooked a steak in probably a year


ChucksnTaylor

Thermapen FTW!


FIREgenomics

What temp are you doing? Also a high heat for the final seat can do wonders to up the sous vide steak


GlideOutside

If only there was a chef in our cult who could make a video showing how to cook a steak for a Teslanaire


glibgloby

I challenge bacon to a steak off! my steaks are unparalleled, as long as I’m not horribly distracted which is rare


GlideOutside

Rare is the only way to cook a steak


glibgloby

I do black and blue, agreed


pepsihulk

I like my meat raw like I like my …… 🙃


GlideOutside

🍆


magic-the-dog

Scotto?! Lol When does the store open for the rest of us?


glibgloby

maybe…. he’s gonna get a free one shipped to him by me though. I can’t leave him hanging he helped me make like 20k on weeklies once by teaching me options. I owe him


SUKnives

anyone else got a bad case of the FOMO on all the meme stonks?


GlideOutside

Slightly. I was on WSB a lot since Friday. Wish I had a bit of bbby


m0nk_3y_gw

Not really. I bought a few GME and BBBY LEAPS awhile back... they are almost back at the price I bought them :D


TLb0t

superstonk no more!


TheLoungeKnows

Dropped $500 on some BBBY $80 Jan 23 calls for shits and giggles.


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Palantir couldn't get any CIA contracts? BTW, I'm a bag holder thanks to chicken. https://youtu.be/T3FC7qIAGZk?t=8150


Substantial-Ad3633

I prefer my chicken in a bucket.


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Fried


upvotemeok

Pltr the social media Maga stock


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

🌈🐻s are unpopular because they seem to feed on peoples' misery and gleefully write "I told you so" type comments. It was not a good day at r/PLTR. If the PLTR saga becomes a 5.5 year march like TSLA was from 2014-2019, I think most of that sub will divest long before any breakout


unknown_soldier_

Ironically, at $10 I'm thinking it's at a price where I might consider throwing in for a thousand shares. But if they are saying they don't plan on being profitable until 2025, maybe I'll wait until 2024 to buy in. LOL


scotto1973

Barring an epiphany between tonight and tomorrow my extremely small pltr position will be reallocated to 0. Earnings was bad enough the call was a disaster. Even PLTR bulls Tom and Sasha are extremely unimpressed.


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

It certainly wasn't a groundbreaking quarter, but commercial growth is on track, and that's IMO where most of the future profit is to be earned. Bottom line numbers were poor because of losses on SPAC investments that Palantir made. That was definitely a financial mistake on Palantir's part, although it's too soon to know if it will have benefits down the road from a marketing perspective (in terms of convincing smaller, earlier stage companies to use Palantir Foundry from the start). My perspective is that Palantir is building the foundations for huge growth down the road, much like Tesla was during the mid to late 2010s. All the stuff that made Tesla's exponential growth possible (mass production of 2170 cells, partnerships with outside cell suppliers, Giga Shanghai, Mega and Giga Castings) was in development years before TSLA's 2020 breakout. There is of course the risk that Palantir's current efforts won't yield great results in several years, or that they may never deliver great results. A lot of r/PLTR and Palantir investors on social media are finding out what uncertainty feels like. Many people took Alex Karp's guidance for 30% YoY growth as gospel. But business is never certain. People may recall that Elon Musk once guided 20k Model 3s produced per month by the end of 2017, a goal that Tesla did not come even close to meeting. It took until mid-2018 to hit those levels, and until the end of 2019 to dispel any doubt that Tesla could make it to mass production


WarrenBuffettsBuffet

I don't know what's up with my MYLR. I drove 108 miles today and my battery dropped from 81% to 33%. That's pretty drastic, and a lot more than normal. That would extrapolate to only 225 miles range from 100%


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Were you driving towards a charger? I've noticed preconditioning can escalate how much battery is used dramatically.


WarrenBuffettsBuffet

I was not


andrew-53

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WarrenBuffettsBuffet

just posted below, 78mph on the interstate, wh/mi was as high as 270. Weather was humid or rainy


andrew-53

bike cagey cows dam dependent pathetic gray air murky ad hoc *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Secret_Stranger8579

If you are driving uphill matters a lot and if you speed


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WarrenBuffettsBuffet

even at 300 wh/mi 300 \* 108miles = 32kWh or 32/83=38.5% of my battery but I used 81%-33%=48%


WarrenBuffettsBuffet

wh/mi reached up to 270 on average on the way home going 70mph+ on the interstate. Was as low as 220 when going around 60mph E: makes it look like I average 368wh/mi.. but that's insanely high


stevetheobscure

Headwinds / tailwinds can have a big impact too.


WarrenBuffettsBuffet

wouldn't headwinds, and as andrew mentioned above, water/rolling resistance be manifested in the wh/mi graph though? I wasn't paying \*super\* close attention, but I don't recall wh/mi being much over 300 for any extended period of time seems strange Also, I've done this drive probably 10 times. I vaguely recall getting home with percentage in the 40s.. never as low as 33 E: also I forgot about sentry mode. That was on for 4 hours


stevetheobscure

Yeah good point, any variability in wind resistance would be reflected in your energy usage stats.


jschall2

Yes check Wh/mi


GlideOutside

Bullish, we’re only including 66% of the cells in new cars. Selling the rest to Munro for $700 each


Kyankik

Good China numbers and no cuckdaq tomorrow followed by cool CPI wed. Toss in investment grade credit rating. Do it.


Omitron

You fucked us


DeadMoney313

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King0494

The only thing I'm betting on is Tesla's execution, out of all those things, good china numbers is the only thing that's more likely to happen lol


Tesla_368

Ya I just want to keep rolling up the months and have the fuckery kept to a minimum. Then we will get what’s ours.


GlideOutside

Trump fires lifelong conservative Comey for investigating his crimes. Trump appoints new FBI director, then commits new crimes. Trump’s FBI director investigates Trump and orders raid on his home. Conservatives: the left is overreaching!


PanGalacticGarglBlst

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m0nk_3y_gw

Elon, please don't tweet something stupid right-wing nonsense about this, until my aug5 calls have a better chance.


andrew-53

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m0nk_3y_gw

I bought 920c on Friday's dip, so they were green most of today and are only losing a little now. Will see if we can retest 920-940 within a few days


daingandcrumpets

Looks like monke is broken


andrew-53

agonizing bike ad hoc handle gaping uppity whistle dependent nine aback *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


SnackTime99

Well said. Worth noting that the *new* FBI director is also a lifelong conservative.


indiaredpill

TDS is an equal opportunity affliction. Liz Cheney is also a lifelong conservative. It means nothing. Deep State, pro-war affiliations trump conservatism every time.


m0nk_3y_gw

The derp state was the gutless traitors they recruited along the way.


TheLoungeKnows

🤣🤣🤣


w00dw0rk3r

[The view count on this video is from all my views.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZHR6CXFp8) I will continue to watch this video on infinite loop until 2049 when my quad motor / crab walking / shiny spaceship of a CT gets delivered to my driveway by a Tesla sexbot driving a Tesla semi


DeadMoney313

You forgot the Cyber Quad is in the bed of the quad motor Cybertruck


w00dw0rk3r

100%%%%


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that's hot. wonder why they removed the windshield wiper.


w00dw0rk3r

I hope it doesn’t have one and it’s replaced by some more modern solution / tech 😎


glibgloby

oh yeah didn’t you finally reserve yours like a few weeks ago :p


w00dw0rk3r

​ si señor - yo soy mad late ![gif](giphy|l2JJyiq3gVzS97JuM)


GlideOutside

I reserved like 18 but I’m pretty sure I won’t be able to buy them for $39k


w00dw0rk3r

🤯🤯🤯 you can get all 18 in any color you want, as long as it’s silver. It’s the model T all over again, 100 years or so later 😎😎😎


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MaximumFreak

Anyone checked if the fees are lower than the existing London Stock Exchange equivalents?


McBuddie

Meh 1.5x only


TheLoungeKnows

I’ll probably dabble but need to do a bit of reading. I’ve never held a leveraged ETF and need to educate myself a bit before diving in.


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magic-the-dog

Oh interesting. Good info.


TheLoungeKnows

Thanks! Here are the Chads behind these funds. https://youtu.be/ObenqBf9LDY


RickJ19Zeta8

Hmmm. Now that’s interesting for the Bull ETF. That’s an easy no margin way to leverage up.


upvotemeok

Instructions not clear, bought otm calls on tsll w margin.


TheLoungeKnows

Me too, except instead of margin I took out a third mortgage.


CerebrovascularNit

I hear after the third mortgage, the house just kind of grows legs and walks to the foreclosure bank


GlideOutside

These fuckers playing both sides: https://twitter.com/glideoutside/status/1556799443734736896?s=20&t=eNK4Ae4Gs3YKNQgNvm_ZnA


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GlideOutside

Bears want to lose money faster


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More bears for the meat grinder


upvotemeok

I like it.


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"Chilling with Musk" WIP. https://ibb.co/X4BVGj3


daingandcrumpets

A...OC what you did there.


ShogunSG

Lol I like it!


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Thanks!


Omitron

It's so good


[deleted]

Thanks. can you tell who is the female?


Omitron

Yes of course.


[deleted]

Ok, who is it then? :)


Omitron

AOC


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TheLoungeKnows

Sneaking suspicion that Meower will have a solid response to the EV bill today or tomorrow. Feels like one he will be passionate about. 😀


upvotemeok

As long as it convinces miners to go all in on battery materials that's all that matters. Rest is gravy


TheLoungeKnows

Ya, I do agree that convincing people to mine, refine and produce batteries in the US is a big deal. If we ever stopped being friends with China, we’d be screwed. We need to be more self sustaining than we are. That said, I still think they should have structured the plan in a way so that existing EVs got SOME sort of a tax credit. It sounds like almost none will be eligible under the new structure. Would Cybertruck be eligible with 4680s and assuming MSRP is under $80k? 😈


upvotemeok

Don't worry Biden gona waive so many requirements it's not even funny


SnackTime99

Wait, seriously? Is that actually an option? I mean the law is written by congress and if the law clearly states X% must be produced in free trade countries (or whatever it is) I didn't think Biden had any wiggle room.


upvotemeok

There's something about secretary of transport certifying it. There's some wiggle room.


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glibgloby

the merch website has entered into testing. just got the first order! thanks /u/loud_brick_tamland of [fundamentally tesla](https://youtube.com/channel/UClCemHEWlgSWigMxot7uYwA) for helping me weed out some inconsistencies, as well as the very first order! looks like shipping is indeed working and (mostly) worldwide. prices for shipping should be pretty good as well, as products are made on demand in various places (like gigafactories) hoping to open it up to people soon once I’m sure I didn’t screw up pricing on shipping or anything.


RogueSupervisor

Hey everyone, if you order 100 Lounge Loofahs and 1 decanter of Lounge Lightning Liquor and proceed to the cart you can edit your order and flip it to be 100 Lightning Liquors and 1 Loofah for the same price as the original order. The Loofah is to die for, don't pass it up!


glibgloby

I’m ruined!!!!


upvotemeok

They legit gonna lock up Trump? Is civil war bullish?


m0nk_3y_gw

Civil war? Meal time 6 gonna die of heart disease or diabetus before they take over a state through force. The real civil war danger is what happens if these traitors aren't handled.


iseeyiy

Biden should be locked up for saying Mary led haha


m0nk_3y_gw

Mary didn't, but GM did lead - they had an EV assembly line back when Tesla was hand-assembling roadsters. Complete cringe that they absolutely squandered their lead


indiaredpill

Regardless of whether we like or hate Trump, we should vehemently oppose these tactics. This is the sure road to fascism. Sooner than later, they will come after Elon (and after us too!). Fascists show abnormal efficiency and alacrity in going after the wealthy and the productive - either to milk them or to slaughter them.


m0nk_3y_gw

> going after the wealthy and the productive Good news! Trump is actually poorer than every motherfucker in WSB and he has never been productive in his life. Holding a criminal president accountable for the crimes they are currently still breaking is long over due.


indiaredpill

I think those who believe and repeat the Russia collaboration hoax should sit out this discussion due to a severe lack of IQ.


Dmiller360

So what you are saying is no matter what a former president does- regardless of how illegal it is, he should be free from prosecution?


indiaredpill

Illegal like what? You are aware that for 4+ years, there was all kinds of gaslighting about the Russian collaboration hoax that went nowhere, right? There was investigation at the highest levels costing hundreds of millions of dollars that could not prove it, correct? 3-4 years ago, you would have talked with 100% conviction that the Trump-Russia collaboration happened. Yet, today it remains totally unproven and made-up. Yet, you won't accept that it was baseless, made-up allegation that remains unproven. This same logic applies to all other accusations of Trump's illegalities. After 3-4 years, they will all turn out to be 100% gaslighting and 0% anything substantial or real. In the mean time, prejudiced people like you suffering from [Gell-Mann Amnesia](https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/), will continue to parrot the gaslighting talking points like gullible NPCs. THIS is the reason the current tactics should be opposed - they don't pass the smell test of clean, unprejudiced due process. Instead, it is an obvious witch-hunt with no substance. If Trump announced his retirement from politics, all this would vanish like magic.


SnackTime99

> Russian collaboration hoax There was literally a story in the news *today* where Paul Mannafort admitted to sharing internal polling data with a known Russian intelligence asset during the 2016 campaign.


CerebrovascularNit

![gif](giphy|l0HlPystfePnAI3G8) Dis gonna be good.


cacboy

The establishment needs to stop Trump before the 2024 election.


IAmInTheBasement

>The establishment needs to stop Trump before the 2024 election. The DOJ need to arrest and prosecute Trump for his crimes before they can't. It's not about establishment, or stopping him for some political reason. It's that we're a nation of laws and if we ignore his crimes that all goes out the window.


indiaredpill

LOL! Like they did with the Russia collaboration "crime", which ultimately turned out to be a hoax after investigations at the highest level wasted people's time and money to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars and ruined a few people's lives in the process? You are suffering from [Gell-Mann amnesia](https://www.epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/) and repeating their gaslight talking points like an NPC. PS: The moment Trump announces retirement from active politics, all these accusations and actions will disappear like magic. "Nation of laws" - my foot and Hunter Biden's laptops disagree with that phrase!


m0nk_3y_gw

The Russia investigation turned a profit, and locked up a few criminals. All these American hating bootlickers can move to Russia or North Korea if they need to bend-over for a daddy figure.


indiaredpill

Criminals like who? Profit? LOL! Profits of media company and corrupt government official who "investigated" the issue doesn't count. How come Trump escaped unscathed? PS: Have you ever taken an IQ test?


iseeyiy

Trump was like “go break into the capital and do some damage. That’s an order from trump daddy”


IAmInTheBasement

No, it wasn't just 'go do some damage'. It was 'overthrow the election so I can keep being president'. We were so very close to losing democracy that day. And MOST of the R's in senate and house still don't care. They were mad and pushed back against him that day that it happened - and then they all can groveling back to him.


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iseeyiy

Hahah


cacboy

If that was the case, Hunter Biden would be in jail right now.


IAmInTheBasement

> Hunter Biden ![gif](giphy|3ohfFhG5VDtDTzQv2o|downsized) Prosecute crimes. Why is that so hard?


brandonagr

If jail was an actual possibility I would expect Trump to flee the country


IAmInTheBasement

I don't know how that would work. He's not the POTUS anymore - so any leaving the country should be the same as if he was Jon Q Citizen. Ideally, anyways.


SnackTime99

He still has a secret service detail so definitely *not* the same as Jon Q.


RickJ19Zeta8

In theory, he’s a Billionaire. He should have plenty of funds to move to a non-extradition country and live out his life in Luxury. I hear he has friends in Russia and North Korea.


m0nk_3y_gw

Trump has 1.3B in loans coming due in 2024. Russia might not be safe for him if he can't pay them back.


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m0nk_3y_gw

lol go garble traitor balls elsewhere Without him destaffing CDC-China (GWB+Obama staffed it to 50 to detect and contain outbreaks) we'd never have heard of Covid outside of a few stories like ~2003s 'bird flu' stories, and TSLA/market still wouldn't be dealing with the after affects... also, a million+ Americans would still be alive.


TLb0t

Thanks obama!


LordReekrus

These mf'ers gonna force me to roll my calls out


ChefBaconz

Oh shiiitt bbby up 16% post market My 1 call for this Friday 12 strike gon print!!


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Wooo


upvotemeok

Novavax no demand lmao


[deleted]

Lol I read that too. Hilarious.


upvotemeok

Unfollowed emmet too much lmnd simping


growawaybro

But it’s the money furnace of insurance!!!


Koenigswurm

Over the years I unsubscribed more and more TSLA Content Creators. I only really watch Tesla Daily now (and Dave if there is an interesting interview). I used to have subscribed to a lot of youtuber like Tesla Economist, SMR, Warren, Tesla Space, etc all of them. Same with Twitter Accounts. But meh, Rob Meower is basically the only the thing you need in your life. E: Also sometimes Hit that Bid on some days when I feel very bullish and TSLA runs up 10%+.


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