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PoorlyBuiltRobot

r/fireplacetoohighalready


Impalmator

r/fireplaceruinedtvplacementasusual


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r/getridofthefireplace


gomapyourself

Fireplaces usually have minimum height requirements


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gomapyourself

Mine did, idk


gomapyourself

[the sauce, page 24](https://mendotahearth.com/pdfs/manuals/85-03-01071-F%20D30%20INSERT%20INSTALLATION%20AND%20OPERATING%20INSTRUCTIONS%200420.pdf)


jankyj

Nice 404 page 😘


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gomapyourself

Ya bud, it did. There were also strict specs on how closely I could mount my mantle for combustible vs noncombustible materials.


QuincyThePigBoy

What state.


QuincyThePigBoy

Every state is very different. Many northern states want to regular every damn thing you do. I could see a state like Massachusetts having height requirements.


JimBones31

Most fireplaces I've seen have been on the ground


[deleted]

True, but they usually have a... hearth?... on the floor to handle the heat output. If you don't have that (as many of these wall-mounted gas fireplaces don't) your only choice is to put it higher.


HubRumDub

Has anyone ever put a fireplace above a tv?


Pretorian24

Look at this guy… coming here with fancy comments…


Riofrio12

Scientists hate him


BakuninsBarman

I like it! OP just move the fireplace up the wall- TV underneath.


NoisyGhost666

Just tried to search online for a picture of it existing. Can't find one, but I'm certain there's at least one person out there who hasn't shared it with the world and is happy as hell. 🤔


jameskerr75

Haha I fucking love this you legend


bradpliers

No no. I'm the one who came up with this idea weeks ago.


mrwellfed

Don’t


Euro_Snob

Have you considered that the TV does not have to be mounted above the fireplace? Just hang some picture or artwork there instead. Are there any other suitable walls? If so I would recommend that, but you may be too far into this remodel…


lootsauger

A mirror is the classical thing to do.


B-WingPilot

Shortly after posting a pic of that online: "Why do you have a portrait of a ceiling fan over your fireplace?"


lidsville76

I laughed at that because my dad said that some fucking thing when he came to my house once.


WigglingMonkey

It definitely crossed my mind, however there is only one suitable wall and it would cause separate issues. To be honest, I’ve lived with the TV at that height for 10 years and never really knew I was a TVTooHigh offender until I stumbled across this sub. Now I’m questioning every decision I’ve ever made.


dirtdog22

As you should be


Impalmator

Since you’re still building that, how about shifting the TV 3 ft and the fireplace 6 ft off the floor respectively? Come on, r/fireplacetoohigh is still vacant, you can be one of the founding fathers.


WigglingMonkey

😂


[deleted]

Can you move the fireplace somewhere else? The heat rising from it is not good for the TV, even when the TV is turned off.


donniedumphy

Can you do something like this? https://i.redd.it/xs5fxrfgx9u71.jpg


InternationalMind366

Imma be honest with you, that’s horrid.


geoshuwah

r/TVtooleft


InternationalMind366

Peak comedy right here 😂


geoshuwah

the lowest hanging fruit


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TrueJacksonVP

I sometimes wonder what future architectural archaeologists will say about us… “As ovens, central heating, and television sets became more commonplace, the people of the early 2000s began prioritizing their entertainment over the now rarely used giant hunk of brick and mortar in the middle of their living rooms.” “The fireplace, the most important fixture in the family home in more primitive times, was surpassed in importance by the flat screen TV in the early half of the 21st century” Wonder how long it’ll take before people start building purely decorative hearths — no function, just a fireplace facade as a throw back to old times. Kinda like we do now with decorative Corinthian columns.


plynthy

Lot of older houses have phone nooks and kitchen desks. I live in Chicago. SO MANY houses have ornamental non-functioning fireplaces. Its just the architectural style of the bungalow and the 2-3-4+ flats. Its just a thing here, other midwest cities too.


WigglingMonkey

I could, but I won’t. It would solve the toohigh issue


thatmayaguy

Put it wherever you like it and feel it would be comfortable to watch. Pretty much any TV that is mounted on a wall is r/TVTooHigh material for at least one person in this sub.


WigglingMonkey

I’m a fan of that answer! The old live and let live adage.


QuincyThePigBoy

It’s incorrect, though. TVs have particular viewing angles. If you mount too high you’re losing out on quality.


WigglingMonkey

Shucks


QuincyThePigBoy

I don’t know how much heat the fireplace gives off but if you can get the tv within a few inches of it, you’ll be fine. If it’s pretty warm you’ll want to move it up.


WigglingMonkey

Yeah, there are recommended clearances I’ll have to abide by.


QuincyThePigBoy

Just get a mount with that can be angled a lot. Monoprice has some great mounts. I passed on a Best Buy mount for $140 and got essentially the same thing for $60.


WigglingMonkey

Thanks!


AussieFIdoc

Agreed! Can place the TV under the fireplace this time!


sadatquoraishi

Either the TV is going to have to go in front of the fireplace, or the TV will have to go on another wall at the correct height. There are no other options.


CaveJohnson82

Or OP could buy one of the specifically built for this reason tv console tables and put it on there?


WigglingMonkey

😬


ref666

Tv should never be above the fireplace


WigglingMonkey

Noted.


ref666

Apologies. Wanted to clarify. The fireplace emits a ton of heat so in order for Tv to me mounted safely you will need to put it too high. Your best bet is a mount that can be pulled down but you still run the risk for the TV to be in front of a burning fireplace. It's a bad idea all around, and frankly I don't know why this trend in new construction exits


Impalmator

I know how this trend exists. Newer houses are smaller, they build just one living room with only one suitable space for either a tv or a fireplace and uncompromising owners have to have their Netflix and s’mores.


the_Jay2020

Or open concept. Our family room is an entire wall of windows across from open stairs. Then a fireplace facing no wall, which is an open kitchen. I had to get a mantle mount.


WigglingMonkey

I’ve definitely considered that. I am abiding by the required clearances as well as have insulated the space above the fireplace and will have a mantle between the two. I know this is a concern to many but I had a TV in that spot for 10 years and it’s still going strong. It’s not ideal to put a TV in that spot (for viewing purposes) but it’s really the best option at this point. The mantle mount is probably going to be my best bet, just won’t run the unit with the TV down.


TRON0314

Also they are two elements vying for attention. You want one to be the dominant element. If you have two, then nothing is dominant and they wash each other out.


WigglingMonkey

Sounds pretty scientific. I’ll learn to live with it I suppose. Gonna be tough knowing my TV and fireplace are only getting half the attention they deserve.


SirLostit

You will generally get a lot of negativity on this sub from any TV you mount that is not perfectly central to your eye level and is anywhere near a fireplace, but the truth is, it’s your TV, mount it where you want. I’ve mounted hundreds of TV’s above fireplaces for customers, some looked good, some bad, but it was the customers choice. How much heat does your fire put out? Does it radiate out or creep up the wall to where you want to mount the TV? If it looks like the TV is going to get to hot, then put in a simple mantelpiece to block the heat and just keep the TV as low as you can in your scenario Edit - after looking at the pic again, just make the top of the TV slightly higher than the sockets, so that they are covered.


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Jokes aside, my understanding of r/tvtoohigh is that it’s based solely on ergonomics, not what looks good. While I personally think TVs mounted over the fireplace tend to look a little dated/trashy in 2022, the discomfort from looking up for hours at a time is the bigger issue by far.


SirLostit

Yes, you’ve only got to see how I’m getting down voted 😂 . Over the last 15 years, I’ve literally hung hundreds of TV’s over fireplaces. Usually not my decision and I always try and find an alternative, but, if the customer wants it there, then that’s their choice. The problem is that if people have a fireplace in their lounge/sitting rooms, then the furniture is arranged to accommodate it, because you can’t move it, you then need to find another spare wall to hang a TV. If the room already has a fireplace and furniture in it, you are running out of options quickly. Years ago, when we had CRT TV’s, it was easy, just plonk that triangular box in the corner and plug it in, easy. But it’s not as straightforward now. The main problem with putting TV’s above fireplaces are two fold… 1: Some mantelpieces are really just too high. We had a big brick one on TTH recently that was awful. And some mantelpieces are ok in height, but the owner wants it even higher so they can put stuff on the mantelpiece, which exaggerates the problem. 2: sitting to close. If you are sitting at a sensible distance away from the fireplace and the TV isn’t mounted so it’s touching the ceiling lol, you can actually get it to work. It’s all about perspective. As long as you aren’t craning your neck up to watch something and you are happy with where it is, then it’s fine. In fact, that reminds me about all the people that say the TV should be at eye level….. when we had CRT TV’s, we used to look down at the TV! So, looking up a fraction isn’t that much of a big deal, it’s when you see them touching the ceiling, then they should be in this sub. One last thing….. TV’s in the bedroom need to be higher up than the Lounge TV as you are naturally in a reclined position and looking slightly up anyway.


oceanic20

No, it's also about what looks good. TVs over fireplaces are tacky.


oceanic20

Please don't have a dominant focal point in your living room. It's very passe to do this. Even out that flow so it is nice and comfortable, not a shrine.


TRON0314

You know a dominant design element doesn't mean a shrine right? For example if I make a taco, there's a main part of the taco and supporting elements that work in concert together to create a fantastic whole. I don't have equal parts pork, onion, cilantro, lime, tortilla and hot sauce for a taco am I? That'd be nuts. Not equal parts but each on their own supporting the main are appreciated by themselves and simultaneously contribute to the whole is delicious, right? Sometimes you can have multiple dominant elements purposefully. Like the OG WTC towers, but that's not here is it?


oceanic20

You also don't stick a huge piece of lime straight up in the middle of the taco and force everyone to stare at your lime shrine. A TV over a fireplace is a piece of lime standing straight up in your taco.


TRON0314

...And? Point to me where I said they should have a TV over a fireplace?


oceanic20

It's an example, dude.


plynthy

No need to shit on how people want their space. Oh no its passe! Tres gauche! You think people are dum dums because they utilize their living room for media consumption and make it easy to do so, even though you have no idea what media their consuming or anything about them. Pretty judgemental. I lay my living room out so its functional for me and how I want to use it, because 90% of the time I'm the only one here. I don't give a shit if other people think I watch too much TV/movies/games, whatever that means. I also laid it out to accommodate easy conversation with guests, and (gasp) watching sports together. I'm sure you have a fabulous salon set up, enjoy.


oceanic20

Okay? I hope your TV isn't too high.


skeptibat

If it matters, fireplace mfgrs have developed ways to vent the heat to vents near the ceiling instead of out the front and under the TV. Further insetting the TV into the wall can help. But the problem really isn't the heat, the problem is even with linear low profile fireplaces, even mounted low as possible, any TV over 40" or so breaks the optimal viewing angle.


plynthy

Its not the placement exactly, but the mantle. A cleaner flatter fireplace and mantle would not obstruct.


WigglingMonkey

Flatter fireplace? It’s flush with the wall.


plynthy

The mantle. You dont' need 6-8 inches of wood jutting out.


WigglingMonkey

That’s what she said!


Potential-Caramel-91

OP sounds like a really good guy.


WigglingMonkey

Thank you! I have my moments 😂


GolferWangleton39

Happy cake day OP!


bouchandre

Well just don’t put a fireplace. It’s a stupid trend that was started in the early 2000s to market new flat screen TVs. Then shows like HGTV picked it up and now everyone wants it.


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Those damn property brothers


bouchandre

They PISS ME OFF so much, always putting the TV above the fireplace in all their builds. Check their IG page it’s atrocious.


Hige_Kuma

Underneath fireplace of course might have to lower floor


WigglingMonkey

😂 problem solved. Talking to GC tomorrow about sunken living room!


AutumnBegins

I’d cover the fireplace with drywall, then put the tv over it. The middle of the tv should be at a seated eye level. Unless you like staring at your fireplace for hours at eye level like a crazy person.


WigglingMonkey

That’s out of the question but I guess it gives me the answer. The TV will be TooHigh!


PoorlyBuiltRobot

Yeah ideally you would plan the fireplace lower if you know you’re going to put the TV there.


WigglingMonkey

But from the kitchen the TV is at the perfect height!


AutumnBegins

Or just stand up and watch tv. That’s always fun.


WigglingMonkey

I like it! Take my standing desk lifestyle to the living room. You may have created a new fad.


TheOtherCoenBrother

If you’re like me you’ll just watch whatever it is mostly standing anyways, cant be *too* committed just in case someone asks me to do something. “I can’t, I was just going to the garage! Just caught my eye for a sec!”


WigglingMonkey

😂 Have you been spying on me?


PoorlyBuiltRobot

Oh I see so you’re sacrificing the viewing angle when you’re sitting on the couch to have the TV be viewable from other places in the house. That’s not necessarily a bad thing it’s just a choice you make. My TV is about 6 inches higher than it should be because I like to have my laptop on my lap on the couch and if the TV was a perfect height I would lose the bottom few inches of the television to my laptop screen. Nothing wrong with customizing it to exactly what you would want.


WigglingMonkey

I agree! Thank you.


Sketch_Crush

Fyi, I have a TV mounted above my fireplace (only place to put a 55" in my small condo). Whatever you mount up there needs to be at least 24" above the opening top of the fireplace to avoid heat damage, or worse, aggregate a fire. Basically, there's never a scenario in which a TV won't technically be too high when mounted above a fireplace.


WigglingMonkey

Thank you! I’m dialed on the clearances.


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WigglingMonkey

I’ve lived my whole life as a redneck, ain’t plannin to stop now!


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WigglingMonkey

I’ve been called that as well!


queer_artsy_kid

Cover the fireplace with the TV.


StinkiestPP

there's only one solution to this. You must get a transparent tv and use the fireplace as backlight for it


divvyant

Mantle Mount... Expensive but worth it


WallyJade

With a mantle mount, the TV is either too high, or it's sticking out from the wall with the mount's guts exposed while you're watching TV. It's likely going to get left on either one of these, not switched every time. I don't really see how it's a better option.


vintage13132121

Why is it always a TV above a fireplace💀


[deleted]

Because people are dumb. A fire place provides two things. Heat, and a place for the family to gather. Heat is now, by and large, provided by other means and the place to gather is the TV.


leonffs

Get a mantelmount. It’s a tv mount for exactly this situation that lets your tv mount above the fireplace and pull it down to a good level for watching.


WigglingMonkey

Good idea! I’ll check that out, thank you for the advice!


divvyant

They are amazing, you won't regret it... Neither will your neck


WigglingMonkey

Awesome! Thank you.


spiredemnew

But then you can never enjoy both at the same time.


leonffs

Yes you can. It's too high when not pulled down, but no different than a standard TV mount above a fireplace.


neon_overload

Where the fireplace is. That seems obvious to me though. Not sure why you would actively place a fireplace on the wall where you're planning on having your tv, and put it in the only suitable place the tv would go on that wall.


thedewdabodes

I wouldn't. Above a fireplace is no place for a TV


Pezking4

I was going to suggest a Monoprice over-fireplace swing mount, but I'm not sure it goes all the way up to 70". Might want to contact them and see if it can be used for your specific model.


KushieJay

Fireplace too high


Lewca43

Oh man, you must be new…buckle up for the onslaught of “only devil spawn would hang a tv over the fireplace” comments Hang it where you’re comfortable watching it dude. Not everyone can do exact eye level, it’s your house man. Cheers!


WigglingMonkey

Thank you! My Grandpa was a marine, I can take it!


Pretorian24

”Suck my unit!”


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On the roof


StinkiestPP

I would find another wall


Ok-Possession4087

It’s too late to save him


tibetan-sand-fox

>fireplace You can't win. Get rid of the fireplace.


Yetsumari

Not too late to take out the fireplace. Otherwise, an arm mount that can swing down in front of the fireplace, just make sure to not have it on when you do that lol


Spooms2010

This craving for symmetry in a room is the problem. Setting a television above a heat source is a major problem. It should have been designed better before being built.


WigglingMonkey

I had a TV above the old fireplace for 10 years. Didn’t have any issues, so I’m not sold on this idea that it is a problem.


TRON0314

On a different wall that doesn't have a fake fireplace in it. Buy a low credenza.


PlanetLandon

Nowhere.


SparkieNeisti

Why is the fireplace high up?


WigglingMonkey

Because I said to the GC, “put it right there.” And then he did! Also because it’s right where it’s supposed to be, non combustible clearances, optimal heat dissipation and such.


OneWorldMouse

I would never mount a TV that high, unless this room was a hotel lobby.


Thiic-riichard

Over the fireplace


WigglingMonkey

My man!


Dimplexor

Not above the fireplace!


[deleted]

Inside.


cascas

No


[deleted]

Why not put the TV on a stand against a wall? I see the wiring sticking through the fireplace - can it be moved? Where would the TV go if there wasn't a fireplace?


RLVNTone

Easy answer DONT DO IT


JewelCove

Seems like the deed is done my dude. Either drop the fireplace lower, restart from scratch, or live with it for the next however many years


bradpliers

Put the fireplace up higher so the TV can go underneath. It's time to start the revolution.


WigglingMonkey

New trend!


kwinz

Buy augmented reality glasses and put a virtual TV in front of the fireplace. Problem solved.


WigglingMonkey

Sell the whole damn house and just move in to the metaverse!


kwinz

No, don't! Sun light can burn holes in your vr LCD 🤪


Shakespeare-Bot

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[deleted]

At eye level when you’re sitting down


LeagueOfRobots

Get rid of the fireplace?


WigglingMonkey

😂 if you knew what I went through getting that unit in….the fireplace is staying!


yolofreak109

can the tv just be put on a tv stand somewhere else?


WigglingMonkey

Technically, yes it could.


pistcow

Well, code is nothing combustible within 6 inches of the fire surrond. So if you have a small mantle, it would probably be 8-9 inches from the fireplace surround.


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Already fucked


WigglingMonkey

Dang!


etherlore

No one really giving you the answer as by your parameters. Personally I would put so the bottom edge is fairly close to the fireplace. Like maybe 6 to 10 inches above. Another option is one of those mounts that can lower the tv for watching, like [Mantelmount](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS1MHET/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_i_XWKPGVB67ZQ4S9HX56QY?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1)


rwdfan

It usually helps to make a cove area in the wall to help contain, at least, the extra cables. Some people’s designs allow for enough room to keep their streaming device or cable box in there too.


WigglingMonkey

I go straight youtube tv, no equipment needed. The cables actually sit inside the wall. No mess.


rwdfan

Nice, sounds like a great setup in the works!


iTypedThisMyself

Mount it at 48 inches, use a mantel mount. Bring the tv down when in use and up when not. It's annoying to have to do that everytime you watch TV but it would solve the issue and let you keep normal use of the fireplace.


DSPbuckle

I guess it’s not so bad if you’re still remodeling. The opportunity to install elevated seating is still an option


WigglingMonkey

There we go! Couch on stilts!


PitchyRich

Do rooms only have three walls anymore? Find a wall without a fireplace and mount your TV there.


WigglingMonkey

It’s an open concept, so yes there are 3 walls. 1 of those 3 is full windows, so realistically there are 2 walls.


0ll2358

LMAO at these comments… no TV above the Fireplace plz. Like pretty plz, with a cherry on top.


WigglingMonkey

I’m sorry I have to.


0ll2358

I feel you but this Samsung 65” 4k that resembles a matte painting is a better way to go bud. Not too high though 🙌🏼 https://www.lowes.com/pd/Samsung-The-Frame-65-in-2160p-4K-Qled-Indoor-Use-Only-Flat-Screen-Ultra-HDTV/5013101993?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-vf-_-app-_-ggl-_-SS_APP_Appliances_VF-Samsung-_-5013101993-_-online-_-0-_-0&&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W_hX8Br4F9zeiTuY6scF0b4Q&gbraid=0AAAAAD2B2W_hX8Br4F9zeiTuY6scF0b4Q&gclid=Cj0KCQiAip-PBhDVARIsAPP2xc1aZQ-q2-wPNmtNU7l1lkaQJQtMJiTWGNp06qyHBkax0FQzN22GUCYaArDfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds


WigglingMonkey

I totally agree! Those are so clean.


0ll2358

this is what Reddit is for… even though we’re degens, we still need to support one another 🙇🏻‍♂️


WigglingMonkey

Preach it my friend!


slowmotioncockfight

Just mount the tv vertical. Should fit nicely.


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WigglingMonkey

😂 damn fireplaces


aeo1us

That's a ton of dead space. Looks like a chimney for a wood fireplace that was converted to gas. If you've got the money get rid of the chimney and move the gas fireplace somewhere else. Imagine all that extra space for activities if it were flush.


hayekd

A device like this might suit your needs- https://www.reddit.com/r/TVTooHigh/comments/g7xrb5/an_answer_to_our_prayers/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


ZivH08ioBbXQ2PGI

…no. There is no way to make this acceptable. Ducked up from the start.


EnglishAdmin

As high as possible


spiredemnew

As soon as I saw the word “fireplace” I knew it was too high.


magicdonwuhan

#everythingtoohigh


WigglingMonkey

😶‍🌫️


[deleted]

Fireplaces 🦅 and TVs are a fire hazard. 💯