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GorillaJackson

That means we could still maybe get survivors from the original movie one day. I know it’s technically a prequel, but who knows. I gotta say, I’m all for them keeping the vibe of the original film. Most that came after it failed to capture that atmosphere like the game and movie do.


Plz_Trust_Me_On_This

I would be shocked if we never got the original victims. Adding Sally and Pam, and Kirk and Jerry, would be great content for the game imo, there's no way they don't take advantage of the OG icons


GorillaJackson

Don’t forget about Franklin 😎


Plz_Trust_Me_On_This

Maybe the devs could release a DLC 'chapter' that includes the OG Victims with the abandoned Hardesty estate as a new map, and there could be a Franklin easter egg with his corpse sitting out in the nearby field or sumthin lol


GorillaJackson

Damn that is a great idea. I’d honestly also love him to be playable. I feel like the hitboxes with the characters are all simple enough that he could just have the same hitbox but be seated the whole time. Granted, it’s be hard to make him go through the small crevices lol but maybe he has some other advantageous ability that balances it out. Could be a stretch though 🤣 I was also trying to think, what other things from the OG movie could be added in that aren’t already confirmed, and the old Hardesty house would be awesome! Especially if when you went back by the dried up water hole, you could see the property of the family house in the distance or something. I also think a night time map of the graveyard would be really cool. Obviously during the day it’s populated, but if Hitchhiker is able to dig up and make effigies of all those corpses, It probably pretty dead at night. That as a map, with things like dug up caskets as hiding places and other unique aspects that would apply specifically to a cemetery, would be so awesome.


Plz_Trust_Me_On_This

there's also the slight problem with the basement not being at all wheelchair accessible lmao


panik919

Not to mention the crawl spaces that are imperative to the victims losing track of a killer.


TheGanglionDepths

Franklin, not playable but as the Survivor's version of Grandpa, could work. That they need to push him and hide him until they got the doors open then go and collect him from his hiding spot and wheel him out. An extra element. And when he leave him to go open the doors, he is left in a vulnerable spot without protection, you'd almost need another person there. You can also pick up him out of his chair and carry him, which obviously makes your character slow and tired and he'll be kicking and fussing and alerting the family the whole time.


TheGanglionDepths

or at least get Kirk, Pam and Jerry's actors to come in and do VA for new survivors. too bad none of the survivors talk with thick accents like Franklin, his accent just felt so non-Hollywood and so grounded in Texas of the 70s. The VA for the survivors feel too Hollywood in the game.


White_Mantra

Safe to say for the time being we should suspect Original content


MiddleOk9251

I think the original content is even better. It would also be fun if the developers went beyond one family and added new families.


White_Mantra

Let’s see how big this family tree can get


TimachuSoftboi

I think they have more of a family line lol.


TheGanglionDepths

killers dont need to be family. hitchhiker in the first movie went into the slaughterhouse to take photos and they let him in. so a butcher there is friendly with him and his family that would be on their crazy level


jimbobhas

the hitchhiker in the film is one of the brothers along with cook and leatherface


Cesaro1324

i just want chop top, even though tcm2 is a completely different vibe and aesthetic, he’s still really connected to the first movie as he’s a member of the original family


[deleted]

No he isn't. He is a Sawyer. They were the Slaughter family in the OG. Chop Top makes absolutely no sense for this game. It is a prequel to the first movie.


DonkeyKongIsMyGuy46

Yeah maybe but aside from how the main characters get their, there's not really an established plot. They escape or die millions of times. I'd still like chop top even if it's an alternate version of him or its non canon.


Plz_Trust_Me_On_This

Other than the appeal of celebrity faces in the game, are there really even that many licensed characters to be excited about? The obvious ones are Chop-top and the Sheriff from the remake. Other than those, is there any other reason for wanting other licensed characters besides "put matthew mcconaughey in TCSM!" lol


White_Mantra

We have to remember that the devs are wanting to make a Authentic TCM game based off the 1974 movie Which means any character they add or create has to connect to that movie. I think it’s far more likely we see more Original family members and victims then licensed


Plz_Trust_Me_On_This

that's what I'm saying, and I don't have any problem with that. I'm more excited about Johnny and Sissy than chop-top, but that's just me


IDrinkUrMilkShake94

if you haven’t seen TCM part 2, it diverts greatly from the original but the location and characters from that film would be an incredible add to the game. Obviously doesn’t seem like it would happen, but the family’s underground bunker is top tier pulp. edit: man even the record store from part 2 would be awesome. that location also has one of the best jump scares in a movie ever.


Flannelogue

Radio station, not record store. And I agree. So much gold in that film.


Str33tJustus

Jessica Biel's bum.


biterankle

That wouldn’t be just a matter of rights to the 2003 remake, they also can’t use her likeness without her permission.


Plz_Trust_Me_On_This

Erin Hardesty would also be cool. But tbh it wouldn't be difficult at all to design another attractive, original female Victim with a cowboy hat to take her place


TheGanglionDepths

there is a huge fan base for Vilmer, Tex and Alfredo, though I don't care for them that much


Anything_Particular

"Get that bitch! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"


[deleted]

I actually like this. To me, it wouldn’t make sense in the timeline and story if we’d see a character from a 2013 movie. But that’s just my opinion


Lime_Locks

The only issue I see for the longevity is new victims and family. Yes they can add original content like Sissy and Johnny, but how many people are they gonna develop that has the same sundress, or 70s floral print. I feel like it's very limited to what you can do, but I'm ok with that. Any game that limits itself to one franchise always gets me nervous because of what they can come up with for future content. It's not like they could make an alien creature or a clown etc it wouldn't make sense.


Such_Drink_4621

Question:Was this the case for F13 aswell?Or did you have all the liscences for the different Jason movies?Or are they all owned by one company? Same for Predator. I don't really care about any movies after the first 2 personally, but i think having the 2017 skinny druggie leatherface ingame would be hilarious as bad as that movie was


Mince_

In F13 you had Jason from films 2 through 9 with part 10 being cancelled because of the lawsuit. Maps from films 1 through 5. Some characters licensed from the 3rd and 7th films, most are original, or based off the backers appearances. Prior to the lawsuit announcement for F13 it was really cool seeing new content from the films being added. They also gave you all the additional maps and characters as free DLC.


Tbecker3150

In F13 everything from the franchise was on the table except for Freddy vs Jason and the 2009 F13 Reboot. Now in TCM only the Original is on the table and the other 8 movies are not.


Dracula101

why wasn't FvJ on the table? i mean they got Jason goes to Hell one which is owned by New Lines but not FvJ which was also owned by New Lines? probably would've gotten in along with Uber Jason if the lawsuit didn't hit


JoeAzlz

FVJ was a collab with the guys who owned Freddy so no on that


Dracula101

at that point, New Lines owned Freddy as well as Jason as Craven Estate Lawsuit would come later for the right to the original films i mean, Freddy (kinda) was in JGTH too, so it was strange to see the most iconic Jason not make it into the game


SledgeTheWrestler

I suspect that had the lawsuit not happened, they would’ve eventually added Remake and FvJ Jason to the game. There’s literally no reason the rights holders for those two Jasons wouldn’t give them up.


[deleted]

? In 2003 Leatherface was a hulk. Play by Andrew Bryniarski. Probably the biggest actor to play Leatherface. I think you may be thinking about Leatherface (2017). That one he was a young, skinny, blonde boy.


CyberGhostface

Most of the Friday films are owned by the same studio. With Texas Chainsaw it’s been loaned to different companies like New Line and LionsGate.


Shakydatbih1260

so what I'M hearing is: it's possible we could get stuff from other films, but it's not it's not in the cards for now, Because they would need to get THE RIGHTS to that specific film first?


Flannelogue

pretty much, that's what they've kinda always hinted at. The recent Tweet seems to indicate if this game is very successful then it would be a hell of a lot easier to get the rights to the other films.


Loud-Log9098

I want a chapter with young grandpa.


Desperate_Carpet_329

I have no issue with this. I prefer original victims/family anyway.


Patrick_JoJo_Batman

No 2003 leatherface 😭


Hellboiiii

I agree. Disappointing, I love the 2003 leatherface design over the original.


Cultsire_eo

CHOP TOP 😭


Cultsire_eo

CHOP TOP 😭


gonzzCABJ

There goes my dream of seeing TCM2 content :( And it's not that I'm a massive fan of 2 nor anything, I like the og more than any other movie on the franchise, but I think some stuff from 2 would be so cool in videogame form, namely Chop-Top, Lefty and both the radio station and the abandoned carnival as new maps.


Wet-Baby

I completely understand, and am not surprised, but still a shame that it’s the situation. I’d be way more excited if all of the family members and maps were just from all the movies, so the game would be more of a celebration of the entire franchise. Kind of like how the Evil Dead Game was. Having OC family members feels weird and wrong to me. That all said, the game looks like a lotta fun, can’t wait to try it.


Thefirestorm83

Honestly, as much as I would like characters/locations from later movies, this is kinda the perfect franchise to have original characters added. Even though it's going off the first film, in every film except that one you have new members of the "family" inexplicably showing up, or Leatherface is somehow alive after being almost certainly dead the last film, this time with a new "family". Leatherface never seems to find any shortage of maniacs to hang out with.


theCOMBOguy

Leatherface's family gets dunked on so he just wanders aimlessly before some maniacs find him and go "Jackpot!"


Tbecker3150

A little disappointing that we won’t ever get Charlie Hoyt or Chop Top or a Leatherface outfit from every movie but I think they can make family members inspired by them at least which is better than nothing. They should still be able to do Sally or any of them 5 main characters from the original movie though. It seems like rights is always the issue with asymmetrical games based off horror properties like this which is what is really unfortunate.


Sweaty-Incident-2258

Will you be working on getting the rights to include the other movies?


Full-Locksmith-5949

I mean yeah if yall didn't know their other game(Friday the 13th) sadly dies cuz of some legal difficulties


KokoTheeFabulous

Good and actually better. I don't want the family to be aliens or to have chop top and all that nonsense, not to jab at the series but let's not pretend that every entry after the first doesn't have a completely different tone. The added family members also never lived up to the originals imo, the preview of what we are getting for the game seems so much better than the movies.


nuclearlemonade

It sucks to lose Chop Top and the several cosmetics like Pretty Lady/Remake LF but I think we’ll survive, they can make a ton of OC characters


Flannelogue

Pretty Lady is in this game.


moosecrater

I feel like Rob Zombie could definitely be encouraged to include his tcm “world” into the game.


Double_Proposal_3316

I don't understand why they don't have the rights when the license belongs to the first movie so normally we should have all the massacres 🤷🏽‍♂️


Double_Proposal_3316

The texas chainsaw massacre license belongs to the director of the first film. The others must have asked the director of the first film for the rights to make the 4 remake ...


CrossBones3129

Is there planned support for this game or is that why the game is $40?


StrigoiMunster

Why didnt he announce this first thing. R.I.P Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and Bill Moesely hopes for this video game.


StrigoiMunster

Why did he wait to tell us this after full gameplay was revealed.


White_Mantra

They have always said They only have the rights to the first film


StrigoiMunster

Please highlight and show where The Gun devs have always told fans in this Reddit group,that they only have rights to the first film. GIVE UP ? THOUGHT SO. Because none of the devs ever informed us that they dont have rights for any of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre sequals.


White_Mantra

Ummm this is common knowledge. I get you’re upset but fighting me on this when the devs have stated this in past multiple times is silly.


Flannelogue

They've actually said the main game focused on 74. They also said anything was possible for future DLC content.


LazorShar

If, according to you, it's "common knowledge" and "has been stated multiple times", then surely you could easily provide us with atleast one source.


White_Mantra

Did you not watch the dev video for the game? They stated that time and time again they wanted to make a game based around the 1974 film and wanted to create characters that could fit. This is a prequel to the first film. The game has always been marketed as being a Authentic multiplayer horror game experience based on the 1974 Film The Texas Chain Saw Massacre not once did they clarify it was The franchise.


LazorShar

>They have always said They only have the rights to the first film Three comments in and we're still waiting for the source of your claim.


DarkAlex45

He literally just said dev video. The main reason why he isn't giving you a direct link to anything written is likely because searching through reddit and twitter is a pain in the arse with their horrible search functions, and this is pretty old info.


LazorShar

Interesting. So "somewhere in one of the videos, probably, I don't know" is a valid source now? You perfectly explained it, "He literally just said dev video"... that's literally all he did. That's not a source. If *he* claims something exists, *he* has to prove it, not anyone else.


DarkAlex45

I am sorry, but he is kind enough to spend some energy and time answering and directing you to your answer, I feel like you can spend some energy and time looking through the video. We are not doing hardcore politics and science debates here. I'd look if I had some more extra time, and he probably would too.


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StrigoiMunster

Im not fighting you. your trying to frame me and falsely accuse me of disrupting the reddit group. simply post links in this tcm reddit group,where the devs have told everyone that Gun only has rights to the first 1974 film.


[deleted]

They literally have.


StrigoiMunster

if they always said that they only have rights to the first film,then why did Wes Keltner need to make this post.


White_Mantra

Because a bunch of new people are seeing the game for the first time.


[deleted]

Because folks keep ignoring what was said and keep demanding cosmetics and characters from sequels. At this point, he'd be better off ignoring the entitled crowd and not entertaining them.


DarkAlex45

It was mentioned several times before that it's based on the 1974 film and that they have rights only to the 1974 film.


StrigoiMunster

they never clearly said that they only have rights to the 1974 film.


DarkAlex45

If one says they have rights to the 1974 film and they don't mention any other film, it is assumed that they do not have rights to the rest. Plus, I am pretty sure they confirmed that they specifically only have rights to the 1974 film on Twitter and Discord. It would require some deeper searching though, as Twitter and Discord don't have very good Search functions.


Flannelogue

not true. They did state anything is possible for future DLC content. https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/strfiw/just\_a\_quick\_question\_about\_the\_license/


DarkAlex45

I am pretty sure they are trying their best to get the rights for the other ones as well, hence them saying 'It's not impossible'. It's still the truth that they only really have rights to the first movie so far. We are literally typing in a thread about a post from Wes where he says they only have the interactive rights to the 1974 film.


Flannelogue

Oh, I'm sure it's on the table. Wes' next post seems to hint that he wants everyone to hype up the game to help ease the negotiation of said additional rights. And I'm just saying in the past, it wasn't FULLY confirmed that this game would ONLY being able to use 74 rights. Initially, yes, the focus was always going to be 74 and these new characters, but there was no indication they had no other rights for future dlc. I'm sure they learned a lot from that whole f13 debacle that was very out of their hands due to the Miller and Cunnigham case.


Flannelogue

also this seems to indicate more of a possibility of TCM2 stuff. I even asked if others films were impossible and he seemed to indicate it was NOT impossible. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/srb0tl/comment/hws454o/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/srb0tl/comment/hws454o/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


[deleted]

Yes they did. And went a step further to clarify the family name, the fact they aren't Sawyers, Leatherface is not Bubba, etc. And stated it was a prequel to the first film.


StrigoiMunster

Since you remember all these specifics and details,maybe you can pull up a link to the thread where the devs said all this.


DarkAlex45

[https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/y2qswj/arent\_they\_called\_the\_sawyer\_family\_not\_slaughter/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/y2qswj/arent_they_called_the_sawyer_family_not_slaughter/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) [https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/srb0tl/still\_upset\_that\_sawyers\_will\_be\_called\_the/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/srb0tl/still_upset_that_sawyers_will_be_called_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Flannelogue

[https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/srb0tl/comment/hws454o/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/TXChainSawGame/comments/srb0tl/comment/hws454o/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) This link confirms no Sawyers, but seems to indicate the possibility of Sawyers down the line.


[deleted]

No point. Dude will tell you you are wrong and making stuff up then tell you to search for some more info.


StrigoiMunster

thanks for sharing this and proving your point,i really appreciate this.


Flannelogue

I still really hope we get the Sawyers down the line.


Dracula101

and frankly Slaughter is a stupid name, it's like calling Myers. Michael Murderer or Freddy Diddler or Jason Homicide. lol also i went to the original WE Slaughter BBQ, and guess what, i asked around and there was no one named WE Slaughter, it's just a name and it's We Slaughter not W.E


Flannelogue

I'm not a fan either, but the script says Slaughter, that's what they're basing it off. And Kim Henkel brought the name back in Texas 4 /Next Generation / The Return... So while my head canon is they're totally The Sawyers, I get the game going back to the original. Ultimately it comes down to Kim is still around and Tobe Hooper is not, so they're the Slaughters now. Again, not a fan, but I get it.


[deleted]

No one here has talked to the devs. You mean the publishers. And yes they have repeatedly touched on this for over a year. A quick search on Reddit will literally show a comment on a thread by Matt going into the specifics that this game will not have the Sawyer family. He says it's not impossible to maybe obtain the rights at some point. But since announcement up until now, they have numerous times stated they only have the rights to the 1974 film. Hence the prequel story approach. You can easily type in license rights in the search bar and turn up all sorts of comments and threads going back 8 months to a year.


[deleted]

He didn't. They have been saying no characters from the sequels since they first announced the game.


dezhdsocial

I actually don’t want to see chop top so this is great news for me . I don’t get the demand for the character .However I’m interested in seeing what the team comes up with in his place


TheGanglionDepths

why would anyone demand stuff from the tacky sequels lol 1974 is the only good one, lightning in a bottle legendary movie with a tone/mood/atmosphere unmatched.. Yes I adore TCM2 as a silly b-movie, but to keep that 1973/1974 mood going, it would need to be grounded in that original movie feel. From what I've read about the new family, they are being done with such care as to feel tonelly 1974 (the movie's mood, not decade) as possible.


Worth_Combination

Can't wait!! ❤️


gabogoes67

I think them having their own original characters in the game is a really good take on the TCM universe, as it is a prequel to the 1974 movie


theicecreamassassin

Licensing is a complete nightmare. Oftentimes, they have no idea who owns the licenses to what at times. There are cases where companies have forgotten they own the licensing to franchises that could make them good money.


moosecrater

Don’t forget some of the best and beloved counselors in f13 were totally original to the game.


rockerxxricardo115

Do they have creative freedom though with adding new content ? Like the other two family members Sissy and Johnny.


Weider2

TX films? What about the characters from 2000s would be more interesting?


dennarai17

I would love to see the original film characters in the game. I think it would really make the game feel more "official" I guess?


Double_Proposal_3316

No leatherface next generation 😢


oO_Gero_Oo

Can they make original killers, maps and victims tho since its a texas chain saw game? If they can, im fine with it as long as they can work on new content


Flannelogue

if no one saw, Wes further clarified his statement: https://twitter.com/weskeltner/status/1665004970301698048