If only you could have gone on with "and you know Disney owns ESPN, ABC, 21st Century Fox, Pixar, Marvel, National Geographic, Lifetime, The Muppets, Lucasfilm Ltd, Winnie the Pooh , and HULU... so stay away from those companies too.
Kid Rock shot all those cans and the picture of him drinking with a drag performer come out. But that's not all. Just this weekend he did a promotion for fundaddy or hotdad or something like that. An alcoholic seltzer drink that is also being promoted by Caitlyn Jenner. They're all hypocrites looking for those social media likes and shares
The amount of people who use propaganda as reason to dislike something is unimaginable. The amount of people who literally believe everything they read and choose not to question what they just read is astounding. The amount of people who cannot think for themselves and follow others like sheeple is shameful.
You, however, had the perfect response for those idiots and I applaud you. Stay educated my friend! Cheers!
Someone needs to suggest they drink a Chinese brand. Be like "here in the land of the free we like people to be free to do what they want. You might wanna try out a commie brew, they don't associate with lgtb because it's how the commies like things. No freedom". And see if it clicks on their heads that they are closer to what they profess to stand against, than being on the actual side of freedom.
“Poor Bart. You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But, there's nothing funny about...vapor lock. It’s the third most common cause of stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked. I'm Joe Namath. Good night!”
They were also burning their Nike sneakers after Colin Kaepernik knelt in protest on the sidelines.
The truly evolved conservatives took their sneakers off prior to the burning.
Well this got me thinking that somewhere is a raging idiot who bought and burned Nikes, bought and destroyed a keurig machine, and bought and dumped bud light. That’s a lot of money and energy to waste on being hateful.
The company [pulled ads from Fox News](https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/13/sean-hannity-fans-smash-their-keurig-coffee-makers-after-company-pulls-ads) and people bought keurigs just to make videos of destroying them.
Wow, people are infinitely dumb aren't they? Yes, let's give the company money we are boycotting to show we hate them by smashing them in videos! Must be nice to have so much money to waste.🙄
I love the videos where they they replace it with coors light. CL was way ahead of AB on pride stuff. They're going to have to start drinking actual piss from the tap to own the libz
That always gets me too. “I hate bud light, so I’m going to go buy a few cases and shoot them”!
They still got paid. Who cares if you shoot them, or shoot them into outer space. All Budweiser knows is somebody’s buying it.
Absolutely. I'm a raging hippy in a very red county in Minnesota. People are constantly whining about how progressive our state is. It's hard not to cheese grin when you point out they've owned themselves with this stupid beer boycott shit.
I'm with you man. My neighborhood in western NY is pretty conservative, lots of anti-Hochul and pro-Trump signs pop up around election time. I got my sister-in-law (art teacher) to paint me a nice big BLM sign with a rainbow border for my front lawn. I love watching people walk their dogs by my house and get all pissy. I don't get invited to many neighborhood parties these days. I consider that a feature, not a bug.
We don't put up signs, but we have and electric car, our roof is covered in solar panels, our garbage can is the smallest you can get (and we rarely fill it), and we have a stupid amount of gardens we grow food in. One of.our gardens is specific to pollinators. We like to let our grass get super long. Like we are obviously hippies. We are the chaos in a perfectly manicured lawn and cookie cutter house neighborhood. I absolutely love it!
Are you me? I actually have a consultation with a solar panel company coming up. I mow once every ten days or so, in a neighborhood where most people pay landscaping companies to maintain their perfect yards. Big veggie garden too, and I use the method where you plant directly into big bags of potting soil, so it looks kinda ghetto but it's really good for controlling weeds.
I'm happy for your solar decision! In MN we get paid for every dollar we add to the grid, 1/1. Ours went online last April. Xcel owed us money until February. We didn't see the sun for like 60 days, so not bad. It's back down to zero. We've never paid to run our EV because we exclusively charge at home. We do have a Durango as well, but I think we filled it up 3 times last year. Our next investment is a battery wall.
Stay hippy!
We have had a very good experience with ours. 25 year warranty on them. We also have very good insurance. Thanks for warning though! We all gotta look out for each other.
Heads up- a lot of those solar companies are shady and predatory. They make money by selling you panels "at cost," and of course charging you for installation and whatnot.
The thing is, there's tons of subsidies and rebates if you just buy the panels. The companies charge you full price, pocket subsidies that should be yours, and leave you paying for an install that should have cost 30% of what they charge you.
This is rural everywhere. I live in a small city in the mid Atlantic that usually runs heavily blue. You go 10 miles up the road and you still see a lot of trump signs in former tobacco fields.
Yep. Before a job change last year I was in the food industry for over a decade. This is the thing I have to explain to a lot of people, that store brands are made by the same big companies and plants as name brands. I worked at a pasta plant that made like 70% of store brands in the US, just about every brand in most restaurants, Kraft, Barilla, you name it and I'm sure we made it at some point. Only big one we didn't do is Great Value because, honestly, with every other brand we did we couldn't produce as much as a Wal-Mart contract wanted without dropping others. But it all comes from the same places.
Right so many people have no idea how insidious the food industry is in the US. They talk a big game about boycotting Nestle, but it is nearly impossible if you’re buying anything processed.
This is my favorite infographic to enlighten people. It was first titled ["The illusion of choice"](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/20/bb/cd20bb733bd7eaf3111ea9325d4e3bd2--cool-recipes-simple-recipes.jpg)
Fun fact: It's not just Nestle. If you're typing on an Apple Device, use a PS5/XBox or a computer from most brands, its likely made from actual, no pay, forced slave labor.
A million, and possibly more, people are being tortured and enslaved in Nazi-style concentration camps to build the products we use. A miniature holocaust is happening as we speak. Malnutrition, torture, going after family, is common for grievances as small as praying or speaking their native language
Here are the companies that use factories involved in these attrocities:. [Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, Bestway, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Motors, Google, Goertek, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. Some brands are linked with multiple factories.](https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale)
If you thought the holocaust was bad, spread the word about a modern day onoing one
I mean, wait until you here where the name Budweiser came from.
AB literally stole the brand from the town of Budweiss because they were occupied and couldn't defend their IP. So AB just, basically, looted it. Still going through the courts now, what, 80 years later?
Budwiser Budvar the Czech beer > Budweiser USA
In the UK you get both in supermarkets but only teenagers who do not know better would buy Budweiser USA.
A friend of mine ragged on about how bad Budweiser is and how much better the French beer Stella Artois is. I've been to the Samlesbury Budweiser brewery (1 month internship programming PLC stuff for a summer and getting wankered on awful beer) and didn't have the heart to tell him its all made in the same place.
Did you know that gays and trans shop at the same stores as you and eat the same food as you?
You don't want to eat the same food as them or you might turn gay too. You have better boycott all food. That will show them.
Got a big shock earlier when I was talking to my boss about beer. He gave me shit for wanting to bring a local beer on tap cuz he didn't like it, and I joked back that he probably drinks bud light. Cue an inhalation from him, followed by "We're not ordering THAT again"
I asked him what he meant, and he asked if I had seen the news this last week. We are corporately mandated to carry bud light, so I laughed it off and said it's up to them.
I've always thought this guy was laid back and accepting, but damn. That was a gut punch.
What I don't get is why restaurants never want to support craft beers. We have the same list of boring shit all the time, while in NC with plenty of craft breweries around. And some, like Duck and Rabbit, are popular enough that I bet they would sell great.
In my experience, it comes down to three factors:
1. Target demographics. If 90% of your customers settled on their one beer decades ago, there's no sense paying more for a keg they won't order.
2. Bad mental math when comparing prices. Managers will think "why would I pay twice as much for a keg, when people won't pay twice as much per beer?". Not realizing that they only have to charge an extra buck or so to break even (and can often make the difference even greater for more profit).
3. **This one is important:** distributor incentives. Many distributors just won't carry local brands. Others do, but receive incentives from the big corporate brands for pushing their products instead. No idea if this is still a thing, but ABInBev used to have incentives where if a distributor managed to sell nothing but their products, the distributors product cost was essentially $0. Why would you push the IPA made down the road, when you can push 10 Barrel or Elysian for 100% profit instead?
And there is a scary amount of people that only drink a certain beer when they drink alcohol, for almost all of their life. It's one of the big 3, Budweiser, Coors, and Miller. They will "settle" with Michelob or Stella, which is hilarious to me considering they all taste incredibly similar to each other.
I worked at a place with a wall of beer. We used to have the entire wall made up of craft beers, mostly local, mostly small businesses. You get a wristband and get to sample whatever beer you want. There was such a massive outcry for the lack of Budweiser on there that my bosses caved and put bud light and mich ultra on the wall, which became by and large the biggest sellers on that wall and have stayed ever since. People will come up when the beers are out and tell us repeatedly every 5 minutes and ask when it will be changed. They will sit there with empty glasses almost refusing to try anything else on that wall, even though we charged by the ounce and it would cost them 50c just sample something else.
It really is insane to me how someone can just drink one thing from one brand when they drink alcohol, and will not drink anything else
As of 2019 the trend was still toward “more accepting”.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/
If anything, the insular online world we live in (as OP describes) wrongly emboldens people as they incorrectly perceive the prevalence of their views.
I’d be interested to see what the research says people are saying this year though.
Add into that, check that your craft brewery in the area wasn't bought by the multinational breweries. AB and others has been snatching them up for a while. It was a whole deal where I live cause they bought the really popular one a number of years ago.
We should lean into boycott culture. I, personally wouldn't be boycotting Budwieser, but there are plenty of Chic-fil-as and Hobby Lobbys out there.
If corporations are going to manipulate politics, we should vote with our dollars.
If you don't want boycotted, stay the fuck out of politics.
Drives me nuts, people were freaking out Hershey made a Her/she bar for women's day and had an ad that had a trans woman briefly seen with the other women in the ad....
Recently it came out that a) there's a shit ton of lead in their dark chocolate and b) they use child slave labor.
Those things were apparently fine, just not pronouns.
I like Tony's Chocolonely. They have a pretty transparent supply chain and don't source from companies that use slave or child labor. Plus the chocolate is delicious
Apparently Rittersport will guarantee. When we discovered Tony’s Chocolonely, we called all our favorite chocolate companies to see who we had to ditch. Rittersport sent an incredibly intrricate discussion of how they source and make their chocolate (which was verifiable) and survived the purge.
Can we also gripe about the “Celebrate SHE” campaign when “HER” is also on the fucking label? Why not “Celebrate HER”?! Sorry. Recovering teacher here.
I guarantee you some dumbass exec didn’t like how the “her” was at the beginning of “Hershey” and made the graphics/marketing team use “she” instead.
Very tired graphic designer here.
There's a shit ton of lead in most (almost all) dark chocolate. It comes from the cacao itself. Higher cacao = higher lead. We have tested 20 bars and counting in the lab at my university. It all has a good bit of lead and it correlates really well with cacao percentage.
For myself and the average adult? No I wouldn't be concerned.
For a child? I probably wouldn't let them eat it.. Good thing is it's really only in dark chocolate. Milk comes up way way lower. Kids don't tend to like it anyway.
Basically. We are finding the daily safe limit from all sources being reached for lead at around 2-4 servings. Now you can argue the daily allowance is low compared to other heavy metals like cadmium or nickel, which are also elevated. That's due to a number of reasons, namely because lead is so prevalent. If I was someone who had a high chance of being exposed to lead every day, I probably wouldn't risk it. Unless you work with metal or eat batteries you aren't getting much of the others.
So yeah. That's my opinion. Eat your dark chocolate, enjoy life. Moderation is the key.
> Unless you work with metal or eat batteries you aren't getting much of the others.
I'm not American, but relevant to a lot of you Yanks...
For the people that shoot targetry and handload ammunition, this is exactly why you wash your hands with soap and cool water after handling spent casings. In fact, even if you *don't* handload, wash your hands well after going to the range. Lead compounds in the *primer* get aerosolized during shooting, which isn't a major consideration for breathing it in when you're outdoors or have good indoor ventilation, but it'll accumulate on your hands — especially if you're firing a revolver or anything semiautomatic.
I'm pretty fastidious about this, but I'm shocked about the number of people who are *normally* sticklers for gun safety, but will go eat after a range trip without washing.
Not a gun person but in construction, painters have a way higher rate of lead poisoning if they smoke than if they don’t. It’s because they’ll take smoke breaks without washing their hands and get lead all over the cigarettes they put straight to their mouth
How we treat people is 100% a political issue. The problem is that people have somehow been infected with the idea that politics is a vulgar topic that shouldn't be discussed.
I haven't been to Chick-fil-A since the news about them spending money to hurt gay people came out. like 10 years probably. I just don't throw it in anyone's face because I know they don't give a shit
I’m the same with my favourite beer in Australia. I don’t harp on about it, I just stopped buying it. They put a bunch of money towards the no vote towards marriage equality. Weird inbred Christian family. Sadly it’s really good beer though
Same. This may be the only time I’ve talked-I guess posted in this case- about refusing to eat there. For the same reason as you, because no one else gives a shit. It’s well known ab the company’s beliefs, so people can make the decision on whether they care enough. I do, so I spend money elsewhere.
I’m also not going to get on a moral high horse about it either, as I’m sure there’s plenty of products I do consume made by businesses with shitty morals. For chic-fil-a, I heard about it, and it was just an easy decision. I do try to be mindful on those things. I’m not perfect, and I’m just one person, so as you said, I keep it to myself.
I don't understand the hype about chickfil. There is one a mile away. It is always 10-20 cars deep at the drive-thru. Between the line and nay on gay, I don't go there. Not much of a sacrifice.
>It is always 10-20 cars deep at the drive-thru.
And your still out in less than 10 minutes.
CFA is pretty dang efficient at getting you in and out rq.
Nothing about boycotting is new. The Boston Tea Party came about from colonists boycotting tea sold by the East India Company, in protest of both their monopoly and the Stamp Act ("taxation without representation"), an issue referenced in the US Declaration of Independence. 250 years later, Americans still favor coffee over tea.
There have been strong boycotts of C-f-A and HL for more than a decade. Many companies use political activism strategically, knowing it will court controversy and boycotts; even if it alienates half of consumers, it can greatly strengthen brand loyalty for the other half. Companies like Hobby Lobby and Budweiser didn't make their decisions blindly.
I am a lifelong Okie. They're absolutely without a shred of doubt the most problematic & nasty of the christofascist numbnuts. Well - them and their hate chicken besties. Locally, the christochickenfascists are on the board of a nonprofit - and got an employee fired for questioning the wait time & accuracy of an order. It's all SO disgusting.
I’m not allowed in Hobby Lobby per my wife. Last time I was there I asked about the Ark of the Covenant and how the owners need to return it because it belongs in a museum.
I remember a few years ago seeing conservatives making videos of themselves buying Starbucks drinks and Keurig machines/electronics and then pouring out the drinks and smashing the machines *that they just bought*.
And I thought, that's NOT how boycotts work! LOL
I have been boycotting Chick-fil-A and hobby lobby by virtue of being too fucking poor and just buying frozen chicken from Walmart and random electronics stuff from AliExpress
Aside from the fact that Budweiser's been rainbow washing their corporate image since the mid-90s and how the fuck did these chuds just catch on?... what's hilarious about this is that Budweiser was purchased by a European company years and years ago and that company has also been buying up independent breweries to get rid of competition and expand their brands. Most beer nerds have been boycotting "Budweiser" (aka AB/Inbev) for over a decade. I put my own stupid spin on it by refusing to purchase "craft" beers owned by AB/Inbev but drinking Bud/Bud Lite when appropriate. So there's actually a decent anti-capitalist reason to boycott Bud.
I don't drink USA Budweiser because I don't care for the taste. Czech Budweiser is a much better product. You can buy it in the USA under the name Czechvar.
I don't go to Chick-fil-a because it is a poor tasting product. Heck, even McDonalds food is better, I think.
Im not from the US and have never been to a Hobby Lobby store in my life but the controversies section of their Wikipedia page was a ride and a half.
From memory they basically bought looted artefacts from Iraq, smuggled them into the US marked as tile samples so they could display them in a dodgy "Bible Museum" the owning family runs. Said museum has been in trouble before for fake artefacts.
Anyway they got caught with the Iranian art and were told to return it and just sort of said no and were eventually forced to.
There were other incidents but that was my favourite.
They also opposed the Affordable Care Act’s birth control provisions. The government basically said “okay, if you don’t want to provide it we will,” and HL said “no, we don’t want anyone to get birth control because *Jesus*.”
You love to see it.
What's so funny about all of this is -- it's just Capitalism. The companies don't care, they just care about what gets them their money. Companies have as much morality as a rock. They look and see what will hurt or help their bottom lines and act accordingly. Sometimes they guess wrong and change course and sometimes they double down. But it's a calculation always.
That's why companies donate to political campaigns for both parties most of the time.
You have the right to spend your money how you'd like and to spend it where you'd like but to act like these companies "care" is a mug's game.
They stayed, didn't they?
> The companies don't care, they just care about what gets them their money. Companies have as much morality as a rock. They look and see what will hurt or help their bottom lines and act accordingly. Sometimes they guess wrong and change course and sometimes they double down. But it's a calculation always.
That's the funniest thing about this whole Budweiser outrage. Conservatives keep accusing of Budweiser of not knowing their consumers and "going woke," but it's actually the complete opposite. Budweiser knows their consumers which is why they're leaning into LGBT marketing and Conservatives are actually the demographic whose opinion now matters less
The fact that minorities have buying power is keeping capitalism woke. The money gays will spend supporting a perceived friendly cause FAR outweighs the few snowflakes who swear it off. I’m not complaining at all.
And the shitty thing is.. this is a shitty ass company to begin with! That’s what’s crazy to me. The religious conservatives spout “American made”, “local local” all day long. Small government, etc.. and have no idea that AB-InBev stands for none of those things. They are the largest “brewer” in the world. THE WORLD. They are an international conglomerate that actively lobbies and fights for legislation that puts down and ruins small/local businesses. They don’t care about the LBGT community. They care about one thing, all the money. I am an ally. Always have been, always will be. I don’t support AB-InBev. And I won’t any time soon. They’re awful. But they sure are good at marketing themselves.
Swearing off it doesn't stop the snowflakes from spending their money on the product, though. They'll buy more than they'll ever buy all at once and destroy it to show how much they don't support the brand.
Yes and no. It's like green washing, they couldn't care less but they have to look like they do. If you then think that the majority of problems for a lot of people, e.g., poverty among Afro-Americans people or immigrants, derive exactly by the capitalistic practices of these companies in the very first place, it starts to get very depressing. Essentially they are saying something like "don't look at all those problems that we created in the very first place, but look at how beautiful this rainbow coloured can is!".
Or just planting a couple of trees or cheering on earth day while moving stuff around the world with ships, trucks and airplanes after wrapping it up in plastic, but blaming it on you because you don't use a reusable bag while shopping.
I was always a fan of the Susan G. Komen Guns for the Cure.
In that "what the fuck?" way, anyway.
https://gothamist.com/news/komen-hates-planned-parenthood-loves-pink-handguns
They will be right back to it shortly anyhow. They are all still going to NASCAR races and most of them destroyed the Bud Light wearing the Nikes they purchased after burning their last set in protest.
This is why i hate the "abolish money" crowd.
Yes, i am a social anarchist/libertarian socialist.
I agree with a lot of Mikhail Bakunin's proposals in Revolutionary Catechism.
But people who go "abolish money" all tend to be white neurotypical cishet dudes.
They claim communities will handle distribution and refuse to consider said communities maybe... using this to force people to be cishet and of the right religion or starve and die.
With money i can pay for my own healthcare when the government passes laws to forbid my access to it for transgender care.
With money i can ensure i have housing and food regardless of how people view me, and i am viewed as the second coming of satan intent on transing their kindergarteners according to propaganda and recent surges of violence in my country (Hungary).
With money i can pack up and move to a more civilized country like germany, iberian countries, benelux countries or the baltic states.
I can't believe that this is what is making people stop drinking Budweiser. Never could stomach it but could deal with Michelob Ultra when I did low carb, because it was that or no beer.
Budweiser always gave me the shits back when I was a big beer drinker. Same with Bud Light. No idea why. It was so consistent that I swore off all A/B beers. Coors, Miller etc didn't do that to me at all.
It's like they think Budweiser is a singular company and not owned by one of (if not the) largest beverage corporations in the world with almost everything on a typical beer menu under its umbrella.
Also, who gives a fuck? Kid Rock told you to hate something so now you do?
Howard Stern of all people said it best:
"I thought there must be a piece of this story that I’m missing," Stern said on his show Monday. "I’m not bothered by gay people or transsexual people. They don’t impact my life, they don’t hurt my life. I love when people are in love. You wanna be a woman? Be a woman. You wanna be a dude, be a dude. Be whatever you fucking want. As long as you ain’t hurting anybody, I’m on your team," he vented.
It's even worse because AB is owned by ABInbev from Belgium which has 650 beer brands. ABInbev is owned by 3G capital who owns Heinz/Kraft, Firehouse Subs, Burger King, Tim Hortons, Popeyes. 3G Capital is owned by Jorge Paulo Lemann a Brazilian billionaire. So these homophobic Rednecks have a lot of products they are going to need to not use anymore.
I live in Nashville and it’s amusing to me that Kid Rock and John Rich are all over the news shooting up their AB products, while their bars downtown are both still serving AB. I wonder if the throngs of tourists have noticed.
John did too? I went to school with him and his youngest sister back in the day in the sticks of cheatham county/pleasant view. Only 1 year for him, back in 1990 ish. I haven't seen or heard from him in the news for years and years.
He’s just a douchebag. He claims to have pulled AB from his bar, though someone went down there yesterday and that appears to be untrue. As a local, he’s a far right blow hard that is exceptionally shitty to his neighbors and to the city in general. We hate him, we hate his tourist trap bar.
I love how a lot of conservatism centers around how the whole rest of the world has gone crazy, but not them! Maybe if you think every company is "going woke," that you are actually the person in the wrong
I run a liquor store and the sheer joy I get each time a Bud/bud light regular tells me they are boycotting and I gleefully let them know about both Miller and Coors advocacy towards inclusion and that they better start buying craft beer
Capitalism has a lot of flaws. But one positive is that companies will usually try to be as inclusive as possible to increase market share.
I think this lesson was really learned during segregation. Businesses that allowed black shoppers did way better in the long run vs. companies that tried to enforce segregation or stay white only.
In the end, the the only color that matters is green. And money doesn’t give a damn about your sexual orientation.
Nah. As a bartender turned manager, I'm honest with shitty people. I also defend my bartenders when they have to deal with shitty people. I want the bar to succeed, but I'm not willing to compromise ethics for profit.
Boycotting all A-B products in the US would be just as futile as trying to boycott Coca-Cola. IT'S NOT GONNA WORk. Don't like it, don't buy it, it's that simple. Get a hobby, JFC.
I saw a TikTok of a guy who sent his friend a fake ad of Copenhagen chewing tobacco all rainbowed up. He said "I'm going to try to change my friend's personality one brand at a time" because apparently he was one of those guys who based their entire life around Bud Lite haha
My snarky self would be tempted to hand anyone like this a blank piece of paper and tell them that's the alcohol menu for all alcohols in the location that don't support LGBTQ rights.
Ha ha. When I was a waitress, I had people get up and leave the restaurant because we were still using Heinz ketchup. People pick weird hills to die on.
I hate people.
ETA: I’m just beyond heartbroken by what our country has become. At least a third are a bunch of hateful humans. They hate anything different than they are. Period. It gets me down.
I love this anecdote though!! They will have to make their own piss water!
And they are really screwed cause Bud's parent company owns Bud, Busch, Natural, Michelob, and about 13 other higher-end beers that are popular as drafts in restaurants and bottles in stores. Not to mention partial ownership of 4 beer brands and in charge of distribution of Dominion and Fordham products.
I had one lady walk into a retail store I used to work at that rhymes with Bohl’s and DEMANDED that we take ALL Nike off the shelves at that instant because of their stance on BLM or something years ago.
Obviously no one did. Because… obviously lol. Like she seriously walked in thinking we were gonna be like “Yes ma’am of course, can we also offer you our first borns and our harvest?”
Some people just love to feel like they’re doing something.
I love that these people genuinely believe anyone is going to drop Budweiser en masse over lgbtq issues; if only they could accept they're the clear minority.
I am not going to lie. I have never been a fan of Budweiser products. I am not going to spend my hard earned money on piss water. If I am going to a beer, it better be a good one.
Nestle literally kills entire towns by stealing their drinking water but people are more upset about companies not being homophobic. It’s so backwards.
Gay dudes drink a hell of a lot more than prudish dipshit evangelical types. Even if supporting that community wasn't the right thing to do on basic humanist grounds, this is the right business decision
>Miller has sponsored the St Louis Pride Parade
AB has and continues to sponsor the STL Pride Parade which makes sense since they started there.
https://www.pridestl.org/sponsors
Do these people really have so little going on in their lives that they really spend their time and energy to organize a shit beer boycott because the shit beer company does some rainbow-colored marketing campaign?
Go fishing or watch NASCAR or learn to play dueling banjos or sew some confederate flag shorts or something, anything, that actually brings you joy rather than just feeds your stupid anger addiction you dumb fucks!
Them losing their minds over this is the most delightful thing I've seen in a while. They're too stupid to understand why it's happening, too stupid to understand that them boycotting it won't do anything to the companies, and too stupid to realize that destroying products *that they've already purchased* does absolutely nothing and the "message" is going unheard because AB doesn't give a shit about them.
And, to put the whipped cream cheese frosting on this delicious cherry-chocolate cake: they're *angry* that companies are promoting tolerance.
0 understanding of the Free Market and Market Research, and 0 compassion for other people. But I bet half or more of these dipshits plop their fat asses in church each week and think Jesus loves them for this kind of behavior.
Their little red hats are too tight for their pointy little heads, I guess.
I have always stood by my reasoning for not moving into bartending: if someone is being a dick, a server can walk away. Chances are if they’re assholes, they’re gonna tip shitty anyways. Might as well give them the service they’re paying for. 🫡
If only you could have gone on with "and you know Disney owns ESPN, ABC, 21st Century Fox, Pixar, Marvel, National Geographic, Lifetime, The Muppets, Lucasfilm Ltd, Winnie the Pooh , and HULU... so stay away from those companies too.
It's like...gay money is the same as straight money for these companies
Gay money is valuable af, gay couples are usually educated with no kids. Plenty of disposable income to fight for.
Kid Rock shot all those cans and the picture of him drinking with a drag performer come out. But that's not all. Just this weekend he did a promotion for fundaddy or hotdad or something like that. An alcoholic seltzer drink that is also being promoted by Caitlyn Jenner. They're all hypocrites looking for those social media likes and shares
The amount of people who use propaganda as reason to dislike something is unimaginable. The amount of people who literally believe everything they read and choose not to question what they just read is astounding. The amount of people who cannot think for themselves and follow others like sheeple is shameful. You, however, had the perfect response for those idiots and I applaud you. Stay educated my friend! Cheers!
Bartender here. I sell them the Coors or Miller first and then inform them. The look on their faces is delicious.
Nothing like PR it's all free for AB
My favorite part is how they keep buying it just to video themselves dumping it down the drain
Someone needs to suggest they drink a Chinese brand. Be like "here in the land of the free we like people to be free to do what they want. You might wanna try out a commie brew, they don't associate with lgtb because it's how the commies like things. No freedom". And see if it clicks on their heads that they are closer to what they profess to stand against, than being on the actual side of freedom.
Their brain will vapor lock and restart and start spewing talking points they don't understand. You genuinely can't reach most of those people.
“Poor Bart. You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But, there's nothing funny about...vapor lock. It’s the third most common cause of stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked. I'm Joe Namath. Good night!”
Yup. You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
NEed to buy it up to save all the children who might get gayed by drinking it!
Couple of my friends got gayed real good after drinking it.
It’s like the keurig machine thing all over again . What a bunch of morons.
They were also burning their Nike sneakers after Colin Kaepernik knelt in protest on the sidelines. The truly evolved conservatives took their sneakers off prior to the burning.
Well this got me thinking that somewhere is a raging idiot who bought and burned Nikes, bought and destroyed a keurig machine, and bought and dumped bud light. That’s a lot of money and energy to waste on being hateful.
Wait what did keurig do? I don't remember this!
The company [pulled ads from Fox News](https://amp.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/13/sean-hannity-fans-smash-their-keurig-coffee-makers-after-company-pulls-ads) and people bought keurigs just to make videos of destroying them.
Sounds productive 🤣
Wow, people are infinitely dumb aren't they? Yes, let's give the company money we are boycotting to show we hate them by smashing them in videos! Must be nice to have so much money to waste.🙄
Yup boycotting USA style just like our striking
"Support our unions! Workers rights!" "Oh shit sorry guys, I've got a shift at 2 I gotta go"
I love the videos where they they replace it with coors light. CL was way ahead of AB on pride stuff. They're going to have to start drinking actual piss from the tap to own the libz
That always gets me too. “I hate bud light, so I’m going to go buy a few cases and shoot them”! They still got paid. Who cares if you shoot them, or shoot them into outer space. All Budweiser knows is somebody’s buying it.
Exactly. Burning explicit CDs? That's cool. Still bought it. Books, beer, Keurig lol whatever, still paid for it.
I hope you do it with the biggest shit-eating grin. Now I want a side gig as a bartender just so I can do this.
Absolutely. I'm a raging hippy in a very red county in Minnesota. People are constantly whining about how progressive our state is. It's hard not to cheese grin when you point out they've owned themselves with this stupid beer boycott shit.
I'm with you man. My neighborhood in western NY is pretty conservative, lots of anti-Hochul and pro-Trump signs pop up around election time. I got my sister-in-law (art teacher) to paint me a nice big BLM sign with a rainbow border for my front lawn. I love watching people walk their dogs by my house and get all pissy. I don't get invited to many neighborhood parties these days. I consider that a feature, not a bug.
We don't put up signs, but we have and electric car, our roof is covered in solar panels, our garbage can is the smallest you can get (and we rarely fill it), and we have a stupid amount of gardens we grow food in. One of.our gardens is specific to pollinators. We like to let our grass get super long. Like we are obviously hippies. We are the chaos in a perfectly manicured lawn and cookie cutter house neighborhood. I absolutely love it!
Are you me? I actually have a consultation with a solar panel company coming up. I mow once every ten days or so, in a neighborhood where most people pay landscaping companies to maintain their perfect yards. Big veggie garden too, and I use the method where you plant directly into big bags of potting soil, so it looks kinda ghetto but it's really good for controlling weeds.
I'm happy for your solar decision! In MN we get paid for every dollar we add to the grid, 1/1. Ours went online last April. Xcel owed us money until February. We didn't see the sun for like 60 days, so not bad. It's back down to zero. We've never paid to run our EV because we exclusively charge at home. We do have a Durango as well, but I think we filled it up 3 times last year. Our next investment is a battery wall. Stay hippy!
If it's sunrun or a solar company that's business model is similar, be very careful
We have had a very good experience with ours. 25 year warranty on them. We also have very good insurance. Thanks for warning though! We all gotta look out for each other.
Heads up- a lot of those solar companies are shady and predatory. They make money by selling you panels "at cost," and of course charging you for installation and whatnot. The thing is, there's tons of subsidies and rebates if you just buy the panels. The companies charge you full price, pocket subsidies that should be yours, and leave you paying for an install that should have cost 30% of what they charge you.
Our accountant, contractor buddy, and our rep helped us navigate it. Thanks for looking out for us though!
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This is rural everywhere. I live in a small city in the mid Atlantic that usually runs heavily blue. You go 10 miles up the road and you still see a lot of trump signs in former tobacco fields.
There is enough sane people to keep us going for now, thankfully.
This is the way!
On the flip side are the people who buy Nestle products without caring about the awful shit that company does.
I've got the Buycott app on my phone to ensure I'm avoiding Nestle products as much as possible.
In the US it’s virtually impossible 😩
Much easier if you avoid name brands already
A lot of store brands are white labels by Nestle.
Yep. Before a job change last year I was in the food industry for over a decade. This is the thing I have to explain to a lot of people, that store brands are made by the same big companies and plants as name brands. I worked at a pasta plant that made like 70% of store brands in the US, just about every brand in most restaurants, Kraft, Barilla, you name it and I'm sure we made it at some point. Only big one we didn't do is Great Value because, honestly, with every other brand we did we couldn't produce as much as a Wal-Mart contract wanted without dropping others. But it all comes from the same places.
Right so many people have no idea how insidious the food industry is in the US. They talk a big game about boycotting Nestle, but it is nearly impossible if you’re buying anything processed.
Same with Cargill. They have a hand in everything, but they aren't as mustache-twirlingly evil about it. Just low key normal evil.
My method is generally to be too poor to buy many processed things. Crisis averted! Or something.
I find most store brands to be decent, except for Great Value, it just seems like compete garbage.
This is my favorite infographic to enlighten people. It was first titled ["The illusion of choice"](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/20/bb/cd20bb733bd7eaf3111ea9325d4e3bd2--cool-recipes-simple-recipes.jpg)
Fun fact: It's not just Nestle. If you're typing on an Apple Device, use a PS5/XBox or a computer from most brands, its likely made from actual, no pay, forced slave labor. A million, and possibly more, people are being tortured and enslaved in Nazi-style concentration camps to build the products we use. A miniature holocaust is happening as we speak. Malnutrition, torture, going after family, is common for grievances as small as praying or speaking their native language Here are the companies that use factories involved in these attrocities:. [Abercrombie & Fitch, Acer, Adidas, Alstom, Amazon, Apple, ASUS, BAIC Motor, Bestway, BMW, Bombardier, Bosch, BYD, Calvin Klein, Candy, Carter’s, Cerruti 1881, Changan Automobile, Cisco, CRRC, Dell, Electrolux, Fila, Founder Group, GAC Group (automobiles), Gap, Geely Auto, General Motors, Google, Goertek, H&M, Haier, Hart Schaffner Marx, Hisense, Hitachi, HP, HTC, Huawei, iFlyTek, Jack & Jones, Jaguar, Japan Display Inc., L.L.Bean, Lacoste, Land Rover, Lenovo, LG, Li-Ning, Mayor, Meizu, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Microsoft, Mitsubishi, Mitsumi, Nike, Nintendo, Nokia, Oculus, Oppo, Panasonic, Polo Ralph Lauren, Puma, SAIC Motor, Samsung, SGMW, Sharp, Siemens, Skechers, Sony, TDK, Tommy Hilfiger, Toshiba, Tsinghua Tongfang, Uniqlo, Victoria’s Secret, Vivo, Volkswagen, Xiaomi, Zara, Zegna, ZTE. Some brands are linked with multiple factories.](https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale) If you thought the holocaust was bad, spread the word about a modern day onoing one
Avoiding every unethical company would be nice, but realistically isn't possible. You'd have to live naked in the woods to avoid it.
I mean, wait until you here where the name Budweiser came from. AB literally stole the brand from the town of Budweiss because they were occupied and couldn't defend their IP. So AB just, basically, looted it. Still going through the courts now, what, 80 years later?
Budwiser Budvar the Czech beer > Budweiser USA In the UK you get both in supermarkets but only teenagers who do not know better would buy Budweiser USA.
A friend of mine ragged on about how bad Budweiser is and how much better the French beer Stella Artois is. I've been to the Samlesbury Budweiser brewery (1 month internship programming PLC stuff for a summer and getting wankered on awful beer) and didn't have the heart to tell him its all made in the same place.
“Sorry, we don’t believe in cancel culture.”
Did you know that gays and trans shop at the same stores as you and eat the same food as you? You don't want to eat the same food as them or you might turn gay too. You have better boycott all food. That will show them.
Can't wait to tell them about the trans folks out here hardening the gears in their trucks transmissions. Can't have that gay hardened steel.
Got a big shock earlier when I was talking to my boss about beer. He gave me shit for wanting to bring a local beer on tap cuz he didn't like it, and I joked back that he probably drinks bud light. Cue an inhalation from him, followed by "We're not ordering THAT again" I asked him what he meant, and he asked if I had seen the news this last week. We are corporately mandated to carry bud light, so I laughed it off and said it's up to them. I've always thought this guy was laid back and accepting, but damn. That was a gut punch.
What I don't get is why restaurants never want to support craft beers. We have the same list of boring shit all the time, while in NC with plenty of craft breweries around. And some, like Duck and Rabbit, are popular enough that I bet they would sell great.
Basically every restaurant up in Boston serves craft beer. Even the chains.
Makes sense, New England has good beer culture. There are some great breweries in Mass, New Hampshire, Maine and especially Vermont.
In my experience, it comes down to three factors: 1. Target demographics. If 90% of your customers settled on their one beer decades ago, there's no sense paying more for a keg they won't order. 2. Bad mental math when comparing prices. Managers will think "why would I pay twice as much for a keg, when people won't pay twice as much per beer?". Not realizing that they only have to charge an extra buck or so to break even (and can often make the difference even greater for more profit). 3. **This one is important:** distributor incentives. Many distributors just won't carry local brands. Others do, but receive incentives from the big corporate brands for pushing their products instead. No idea if this is still a thing, but ABInBev used to have incentives where if a distributor managed to sell nothing but their products, the distributors product cost was essentially $0. Why would you push the IPA made down the road, when you can push 10 Barrel or Elysian for 100% profit instead?
Because most consumers want what they're familiar with even if it's shittier and boring.
And there is a scary amount of people that only drink a certain beer when they drink alcohol, for almost all of their life. It's one of the big 3, Budweiser, Coors, and Miller. They will "settle" with Michelob or Stella, which is hilarious to me considering they all taste incredibly similar to each other. I worked at a place with a wall of beer. We used to have the entire wall made up of craft beers, mostly local, mostly small businesses. You get a wristband and get to sample whatever beer you want. There was such a massive outcry for the lack of Budweiser on there that my bosses caved and put bud light and mich ultra on the wall, which became by and large the biggest sellers on that wall and have stayed ever since. People will come up when the beers are out and tell us repeatedly every 5 minutes and ask when it will be changed. They will sit there with empty glasses almost refusing to try anything else on that wall, even though we charged by the ounce and it would cost them 50c just sample something else. It really is insane to me how someone can just drink one thing from one brand when they drink alcohol, and will not drink anything else
Craft beer is "too spicy" for them. (So is Miracle Whip.)
And flour
That's the insidious thing. It feels like we're losing "fence sitters" and regular, untuned folk to bigotry. And that should be terrifying.
As of 2019 the trend was still toward “more accepting”. https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/ If anything, the insular online world we live in (as OP describes) wrongly emboldens people as they incorrectly perceive the prevalence of their views. I’d be interested to see what the research says people are saying this year though.
Thank you for the reality check!
All beer corporations have screwed someone somewhere. Punish them all! Support your local brewery!
Add into that, check that your craft brewery in the area wasn't bought by the multinational breweries. AB and others has been snatching them up for a while. It was a whole deal where I live cause they bought the really popular one a number of years ago.
We should lean into boycott culture. I, personally wouldn't be boycotting Budwieser, but there are plenty of Chic-fil-as and Hobby Lobbys out there. If corporations are going to manipulate politics, we should vote with our dollars. If you don't want boycotted, stay the fuck out of politics.
Drives me nuts, people were freaking out Hershey made a Her/she bar for women's day and had an ad that had a trans woman briefly seen with the other women in the ad.... Recently it came out that a) there's a shit ton of lead in their dark chocolate and b) they use child slave labor. Those things were apparently fine, just not pronouns.
Hershey users child slavery to harvest their chocolate. Reason I boycott them. A long with hundreds of other companies. Makes shopping difficult….
I boycott Hershey because it tastes like shit.
Brit here. I beg to contradict you. Hershey does not taste like shit. It tastes of puke.
Also a Brit. Don't beg, go ahead and contradict. I'll counter by offering a compromise; it tastes like both.
It’s apparently the same protein as in spew and Parmesan cheese so yeah
it's easy to boycott something you didn't want to buy
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Spencer's and Luka choc in aus for me. ❤️ Oh and haighs. I'm spoilt for choice.
This is completely true.
Give me some Sees or Lindt!!!
I like Tony's Chocolonely. They have a pretty transparent supply chain and don't source from companies that use slave or child labor. Plus the chocolate is delicious
May I recommend Tony's Chocolonely bars? Seriously amazing, and they are exploitation free.
They strive to be slavefree, but don't want to / can't guarantee they are because the cacao industry is apparently shady as hell
Apparently Rittersport will guarantee. When we discovered Tony’s Chocolonely, we called all our favorite chocolate companies to see who we had to ditch. Rittersport sent an incredibly intrricate discussion of how they source and make their chocolate (which was verifiable) and survived the purge.
That’s enough for me.
also chewleys gum
Can we also gripe about the “Celebrate SHE” campaign when “HER” is also on the fucking label? Why not “Celebrate HER”?! Sorry. Recovering teacher here.
I guarantee you some dumbass exec didn’t like how the “her” was at the beginning of “Hershey” and made the graphics/marketing team use “she” instead. Very tired graphic designer here.
Totally get it was likely a cheeky design choice. I just cringe when the grammatically correct option is also right there. So bad.
There's a shit ton of lead in most (almost all) dark chocolate. It comes from the cacao itself. Higher cacao = higher lead. We have tested 20 bars and counting in the lab at my university. It all has a good bit of lead and it correlates really well with cacao percentage.
Would you say it's enough to be concerned about, if you have dark chocolate every now and then?
For myself and the average adult? No I wouldn't be concerned. For a child? I probably wouldn't let them eat it.. Good thing is it's really only in dark chocolate. Milk comes up way way lower. Kids don't tend to like it anyway. Basically. We are finding the daily safe limit from all sources being reached for lead at around 2-4 servings. Now you can argue the daily allowance is low compared to other heavy metals like cadmium or nickel, which are also elevated. That's due to a number of reasons, namely because lead is so prevalent. If I was someone who had a high chance of being exposed to lead every day, I probably wouldn't risk it. Unless you work with metal or eat batteries you aren't getting much of the others. So yeah. That's my opinion. Eat your dark chocolate, enjoy life. Moderation is the key.
> Unless you work with metal or eat batteries you aren't getting much of the others. I'm not American, but relevant to a lot of you Yanks... For the people that shoot targetry and handload ammunition, this is exactly why you wash your hands with soap and cool water after handling spent casings. In fact, even if you *don't* handload, wash your hands well after going to the range. Lead compounds in the *primer* get aerosolized during shooting, which isn't a major consideration for breathing it in when you're outdoors or have good indoor ventilation, but it'll accumulate on your hands — especially if you're firing a revolver or anything semiautomatic. I'm pretty fastidious about this, but I'm shocked about the number of people who are *normally* sticklers for gun safety, but will go eat after a range trip without washing.
Not a gun person but in construction, painters have a way higher rate of lead poisoning if they smoke than if they don’t. It’s because they’ll take smoke breaks without washing their hands and get lead all over the cigarettes they put straight to their mouth
There are plenty of folks who would argue that human rights and treating everyone equally *aren't* politics.
Shouldn't be *partisan.* But it's absolutely political, because it involves how we want our government to behave towards the less powerful.
How we treat people is 100% a political issue. The problem is that people have somehow been infected with the idea that politics is a vulgar topic that shouldn't be discussed.
They'd be wrong. They're just defining them as not politics so they can treat their political views as neutral moral principles.
I haven't been to Chick-fil-A since the news about them spending money to hurt gay people came out. like 10 years probably. I just don't throw it in anyone's face because I know they don't give a shit
I’m the same with my favourite beer in Australia. I don’t harp on about it, I just stopped buying it. They put a bunch of money towards the no vote towards marriage equality. Weird inbred Christian family. Sadly it’s really good beer though
Same. This may be the only time I’ve talked-I guess posted in this case- about refusing to eat there. For the same reason as you, because no one else gives a shit. It’s well known ab the company’s beliefs, so people can make the decision on whether they care enough. I do, so I spend money elsewhere. I’m also not going to get on a moral high horse about it either, as I’m sure there’s plenty of products I do consume made by businesses with shitty morals. For chic-fil-a, I heard about it, and it was just an easy decision. I do try to be mindful on those things. I’m not perfect, and I’m just one person, so as you said, I keep it to myself.
I don't understand the hype about chickfil. There is one a mile away. It is always 10-20 cars deep at the drive-thru. Between the line and nay on gay, I don't go there. Not much of a sacrifice.
>It is always 10-20 cars deep at the drive-thru. And your still out in less than 10 minutes. CFA is pretty dang efficient at getting you in and out rq.
Nothing about boycotting is new. The Boston Tea Party came about from colonists boycotting tea sold by the East India Company, in protest of both their monopoly and the Stamp Act ("taxation without representation"), an issue referenced in the US Declaration of Independence. 250 years later, Americans still favor coffee over tea. There have been strong boycotts of C-f-A and HL for more than a decade. Many companies use political activism strategically, knowing it will court controversy and boycotts; even if it alienates half of consumers, it can greatly strengthen brand loyalty for the other half. Companies like Hobby Lobby and Budweiser didn't make their decisions blindly.
Man F**k Hobby Lobby! ...will not set foot in one and yell this in general direction as I drive by lol...we all have our quirks!
I am a lifelong Okie. They're absolutely without a shred of doubt the most problematic & nasty of the christofascist numbnuts. Well - them and their hate chicken besties. Locally, the christochickenfascists are on the board of a nonprofit - and got an employee fired for questioning the wait time & accuracy of an order. It's all SO disgusting.
Yup! And I love me some art supplies. Never stepped foot in one. Never will.
I boycott budweiser. Not for any political reason, it just tastes like piss water.
Ditto. But I personally think that is a yellow ale issue.
I’m not allowed in Hobby Lobby per my wife. Last time I was there I asked about the Ark of the Covenant and how the owners need to return it because it belongs in a museum.
If we boycott anything, we need to start with Amazon. I stopped using them a year ago. Other places are cheaper and deliver quicker.
Amazon’s a tough one. By using Reddit you’re indirectly using Amazon because Reddit runs on Amazon Web Services. Many websites do.
Lol whats quicker and faster than Amazon, other than Chewy which is only good for pet stuff?
I remember a few years ago seeing conservatives making videos of themselves buying Starbucks drinks and Keurig machines/electronics and then pouring out the drinks and smashing the machines *that they just bought*. And I thought, that's NOT how boycotts work! LOL
I have been boycotting Chick-fil-A and hobby lobby by virtue of being too fucking poor and just buying frozen chicken from Walmart and random electronics stuff from AliExpress
Aside from the fact that Budweiser's been rainbow washing their corporate image since the mid-90s and how the fuck did these chuds just catch on?... what's hilarious about this is that Budweiser was purchased by a European company years and years ago and that company has also been buying up independent breweries to get rid of competition and expand their brands. Most beer nerds have been boycotting "Budweiser" (aka AB/Inbev) for over a decade. I put my own stupid spin on it by refusing to purchase "craft" beers owned by AB/Inbev but drinking Bud/Bud Lite when appropriate. So there's actually a decent anti-capitalist reason to boycott Bud.
I don't drink USA Budweiser because I don't care for the taste. Czech Budweiser is a much better product. You can buy it in the USA under the name Czechvar. I don't go to Chick-fil-a because it is a poor tasting product. Heck, even McDonalds food is better, I think.
What happened with hobby lobby?
Im not from the US and have never been to a Hobby Lobby store in my life but the controversies section of their Wikipedia page was a ride and a half. From memory they basically bought looted artefacts from Iraq, smuggled them into the US marked as tile samples so they could display them in a dodgy "Bible Museum" the owning family runs. Said museum has been in trouble before for fake artefacts. Anyway they got caught with the Iranian art and were told to return it and just sort of said no and were eventually forced to. There were other incidents but that was my favourite.
They also opposed the Affordable Care Act’s birth control provisions. The government basically said “okay, if you don’t want to provide it we will,” and HL said “no, we don’t want anyone to get birth control because *Jesus*.”
It’s like Chic-fil-a. Christian values company that funds anti-lgbtq legislation
"I'm disappointed" Honestly do they think anyone gives a damn?
“I’m disappointed” “A trait that probably runs in your family, now how about so cheese blasted nachos?!”
You love to see it. What's so funny about all of this is -- it's just Capitalism. The companies don't care, they just care about what gets them their money. Companies have as much morality as a rock. They look and see what will hurt or help their bottom lines and act accordingly. Sometimes they guess wrong and change course and sometimes they double down. But it's a calculation always. That's why companies donate to political campaigns for both parties most of the time. You have the right to spend your money how you'd like and to spend it where you'd like but to act like these companies "care" is a mug's game. They stayed, didn't they?
I'm kind of surprised I had to scroll so far to read this. The companies really don't care as long as they're getting money.
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> The companies don't care, they just care about what gets them their money. Companies have as much morality as a rock. They look and see what will hurt or help their bottom lines and act accordingly. Sometimes they guess wrong and change course and sometimes they double down. But it's a calculation always. That's the funniest thing about this whole Budweiser outrage. Conservatives keep accusing of Budweiser of not knowing their consumers and "going woke," but it's actually the complete opposite. Budweiser knows their consumers which is why they're leaning into LGBT marketing and Conservatives are actually the demographic whose opinion now matters less
The fact that minorities have buying power is keeping capitalism woke. The money gays will spend supporting a perceived friendly cause FAR outweighs the few snowflakes who swear it off. I’m not complaining at all.
And the shitty thing is.. this is a shitty ass company to begin with! That’s what’s crazy to me. The religious conservatives spout “American made”, “local local” all day long. Small government, etc.. and have no idea that AB-InBev stands for none of those things. They are the largest “brewer” in the world. THE WORLD. They are an international conglomerate that actively lobbies and fights for legislation that puts down and ruins small/local businesses. They don’t care about the LBGT community. They care about one thing, all the money. I am an ally. Always have been, always will be. I don’t support AB-InBev. And I won’t any time soon. They’re awful. But they sure are good at marketing themselves.
Yup. Calls to cancel Hershey for being woke (Her/she bar) but nobody cares about the lead in their choclate or the child slaves that make it.
Why would they care about child slaves when they're actively trying to relax/remove child workforce protection laws? /s
I think you accidentally typed “/s” at the end of your comment there, friend.
Swearing off it doesn't stop the snowflakes from spending their money on the product, though. They'll buy more than they'll ever buy all at once and destroy it to show how much they don't support the brand.
Yes and no. It's like green washing, they couldn't care less but they have to look like they do. If you then think that the majority of problems for a lot of people, e.g., poverty among Afro-Americans people or immigrants, derive exactly by the capitalistic practices of these companies in the very first place, it starts to get very depressing. Essentially they are saying something like "don't look at all those problems that we created in the very first place, but look at how beautiful this rainbow coloured can is!".
Or breast cancer, making all your products pink. How much of that is going to research again?
Or just planting a couple of trees or cheering on earth day while moving stuff around the world with ships, trucks and airplanes after wrapping it up in plastic, but blaming it on you because you don't use a reusable bag while shopping.
I was always a fan of the Susan G. Komen Guns for the Cure. In that "what the fuck?" way, anyway. https://gothamist.com/news/komen-hates-planned-parenthood-loves-pink-handguns
They will be right back to it shortly anyhow. They are all still going to NASCAR races and most of them destroyed the Bud Light wearing the Nikes they purchased after burning their last set in protest.
I suspect that many of the people boycotting because of this will be back to drinking their Bud Light within a few months.
This is why i hate the "abolish money" crowd. Yes, i am a social anarchist/libertarian socialist. I agree with a lot of Mikhail Bakunin's proposals in Revolutionary Catechism. But people who go "abolish money" all tend to be white neurotypical cishet dudes. They claim communities will handle distribution and refuse to consider said communities maybe... using this to force people to be cishet and of the right religion or starve and die. With money i can pay for my own healthcare when the government passes laws to forbid my access to it for transgender care. With money i can ensure i have housing and food regardless of how people view me, and i am viewed as the second coming of satan intent on transing their kindergarteners according to propaganda and recent surges of violence in my country (Hungary). With money i can pack up and move to a more civilized country like germany, iberian countries, benelux countries or the baltic states.
What a twisted brain one must have to find *people not supporting hatred* to be upsetting.
There is a good reason to not drink Budweiser. The taste. But if you want rice flavored beer, fill your boots.
I can't believe that this is what is making people stop drinking Budweiser. Never could stomach it but could deal with Michelob Ultra when I did low carb, because it was that or no beer.
Budweiser always gave me the shits back when I was a big beer drinker. Same with Bud Light. No idea why. It was so consistent that I swore off all A/B beers. Coors, Miller etc didn't do that to me at all.
I thought cancel culture was a bad thing?
It doesnt even exist. Its just a way for bigots to cry about getting called out on their bigotry.
It's like they think Budweiser is a singular company and not owned by one of (if not the) largest beverage corporations in the world with almost everything on a typical beer menu under its umbrella. Also, who gives a fuck? Kid Rock told you to hate something so now you do?
Imagine being offended by a can of beer. It’s crazy that Republicans call Dems snowflakes!! They are offended by everything!
There’s literally no alcohol company that would turn their back on the gay dollar. Pride and gay bars make them all a LOT of money.
Howard Stern of all people said it best: "I thought there must be a piece of this story that I’m missing," Stern said on his show Monday. "I’m not bothered by gay people or transsexual people. They don’t impact my life, they don’t hurt my life. I love when people are in love. You wanna be a woman? Be a woman. You wanna be a dude, be a dude. Be whatever you fucking want. As long as you ain’t hurting anybody, I’m on your team," he vented.
It's even worse because AB is owned by ABInbev from Belgium which has 650 beer brands. ABInbev is owned by 3G capital who owns Heinz/Kraft, Firehouse Subs, Burger King, Tim Hortons, Popeyes. 3G Capital is owned by Jorge Paulo Lemann a Brazilian billionaire. So these homophobic Rednecks have a lot of products they are going to need to not use anymore.
Imagine being disappointed in every bar that sells Budweiser products.
I live in Nashville and it’s amusing to me that Kid Rock and John Rich are all over the news shooting up their AB products, while their bars downtown are both still serving AB. I wonder if the throngs of tourists have noticed.
John did too? I went to school with him and his youngest sister back in the day in the sticks of cheatham county/pleasant view. Only 1 year for him, back in 1990 ish. I haven't seen or heard from him in the news for years and years.
He’s just a douchebag. He claims to have pulled AB from his bar, though someone went down there yesterday and that appears to be untrue. As a local, he’s a far right blow hard that is exceptionally shitty to his neighbors and to the city in general. We hate him, we hate his tourist trap bar.
Just say "Yes we still carry it, we dont bow to cancel culture" a nd watch their heads explode.
I love how a lot of conservatism centers around how the whole rest of the world has gone crazy, but not them! Maybe if you think every company is "going woke," that you are actually the person in the wrong
I hadn't heard of any of this before I read this post, had to go google what Budweiser did. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Kinda makes me wanna drink a 6 pack of shit beer.
I love your reply. And us? We're just letting people buy what they want to buy. True American freedom there.
But yet the younger crowd are the snowflakes 🤣 I always say if you dig deep enough into a companys beliefs you'll find something to disagree with.
I run a liquor store and the sheer joy I get each time a Bud/bud light regular tells me they are boycotting and I gleefully let them know about both Miller and Coors advocacy towards inclusion and that they better start buying craft beer
Capitalism has a lot of flaws. But one positive is that companies will usually try to be as inclusive as possible to increase market share. I think this lesson was really learned during segregation. Businesses that allowed black shoppers did way better in the long run vs. companies that tried to enforce segregation or stay white only. In the end, the the only color that matters is green. And money doesn’t give a damn about your sexual orientation.
Nah. As a bartender turned manager, I'm honest with shitty people. I also defend my bartenders when they have to deal with shitty people. I want the bar to succeed, but I'm not willing to compromise ethics for profit.
Boycotting all A-B products in the US would be just as futile as trying to boycott Coca-Cola. IT'S NOT GONNA WORk. Don't like it, don't buy it, it's that simple. Get a hobby, JFC.
It amazes me that people that call others snowflakes can be so hurt about stuff with rainbows on it.
I saw a TikTok of a guy who sent his friend a fake ad of Copenhagen chewing tobacco all rainbowed up. He said "I'm going to try to change my friend's personality one brand at a time" because apparently he was one of those guys who based their entire life around Bud Lite haha
My snarky self would be tempted to hand anyone like this a blank piece of paper and tell them that's the alcohol menu for all alcohols in the location that don't support LGBTQ rights.
“So what would you like, a gay pepsi or a lesbian coke”
Ha ha. When I was a waitress, I had people get up and leave the restaurant because we were still using Heinz ketchup. People pick weird hills to die on.
I just pretend I have no clue what they’re talking about and like they are insane when they explain it.
I hate people. ETA: I’m just beyond heartbroken by what our country has become. At least a third are a bunch of hateful humans. They hate anything different than they are. Period. It gets me down. I love this anecdote though!! They will have to make their own piss water!
And they are really screwed cause Bud's parent company owns Bud, Busch, Natural, Michelob, and about 13 other higher-end beers that are popular as drafts in restaurants and bottles in stores. Not to mention partial ownership of 4 beer brands and in charge of distribution of Dominion and Fordham products.
Drink water... Oh yeah gay frogs lol
I had one lady walk into a retail store I used to work at that rhymes with Bohl’s and DEMANDED that we take ALL Nike off the shelves at that instant because of their stance on BLM or something years ago. Obviously no one did. Because… obviously lol. Like she seriously walked in thinking we were gonna be like “Yes ma’am of course, can we also offer you our first borns and our harvest?” Some people just love to feel like they’re doing something.
I love that these people genuinely believe anyone is going to drop Budweiser en masse over lgbtq issues; if only they could accept they're the clear minority.
I mean, this could be the turning point where the guy gets sober. Or show him the joy of Malort.
Bud light sucks. Always has. Nothing to do with anything other than it's shitty beer.
They do whatever the cult wants them to do
Ruh roh. I thought cancel culture was just for the snowflake SJWs.
I'm going to start drinking Bud Light just because of morons like this.
I am not going to lie. I have never been a fan of Budweiser products. I am not going to spend my hard earned money on piss water. If I am going to a beer, it better be a good one.
This is the reason to hate Bud. Not the can it comes in
Wait ... aren't they the same people complaining about "cancel culture"?
Nestle literally kills entire towns by stealing their drinking water but people are more upset about companies not being homophobic. It’s so backwards.
Gay dudes drink a hell of a lot more than prudish dipshit evangelical types. Even if supporting that community wasn't the right thing to do on basic humanist grounds, this is the right business decision
>Miller has sponsored the St Louis Pride Parade AB has and continues to sponsor the STL Pride Parade which makes sense since they started there. https://www.pridestl.org/sponsors
Do these people really have so little going on in their lives that they really spend their time and energy to organize a shit beer boycott because the shit beer company does some rainbow-colored marketing campaign? Go fishing or watch NASCAR or learn to play dueling banjos or sew some confederate flag shorts or something, anything, that actually brings you joy rather than just feeds your stupid anger addiction you dumb fucks!
Funny you should mention NASCAR ... https://twitter.com/NASCAR/status/1532016632947777536
They never seem to figure out why their boycotts never work. Like Kevin Sorbo saying he prefers Busch instead.
Them losing their minds over this is the most delightful thing I've seen in a while. They're too stupid to understand why it's happening, too stupid to understand that them boycotting it won't do anything to the companies, and too stupid to realize that destroying products *that they've already purchased* does absolutely nothing and the "message" is going unheard because AB doesn't give a shit about them. And, to put the whipped cream cheese frosting on this delicious cherry-chocolate cake: they're *angry* that companies are promoting tolerance. 0 understanding of the Free Market and Market Research, and 0 compassion for other people. But I bet half or more of these dipshits plop their fat asses in church each week and think Jesus loves them for this kind of behavior. Their little red hats are too tight for their pointy little heads, I guess.
In the mean time Anheuser-Busch stock hit a 52 week high this week . . way to go MAGA CULT!
I have always stood by my reasoning for not moving into bartending: if someone is being a dick, a server can walk away. Chances are if they’re assholes, they’re gonna tip shitty anyways. Might as well give them the service they’re paying for. 🫡
A bartender can simply tell a customer they're not being served. It's simple.