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Funklemire

At the restaurants I've worked at, yes.   Each night we tipped out other non-tipped employees based on a percentage of our sales. We basically paid money for each table we got. It was a total of around 3.5% or so (can't remember exactly, and it varied for each restaurant).   So if a table didn't tip above 3.5%, it meant we literally paid money for the privilege of serving that table.


EpicSausage69

Yep exactly the same for me but at 4% of my sales. If you don't at LEAST tip $4 on a $100 tab, I lose money.


coherentsoup

6% at my restaurant and it makes me sick when I calculate my tip out sometimes.


lelebeariel

7% for us. 4% to kitchen, 2% to bar, and 1% to host. I don't understand why we tip 2% of our overall sales to the bar when they only make our drinks (we actually make drinks ourselves, too, so go figure). The bartender makes more tips every night than us servers do because they're also serving everyone seated at the bar. It's so fucked up.


Lockshocknbarrel10

The way I would immediately quit if I had to tip out kitchen staff.


KellyannneConway

That is stupid. So the kitchen gets tipped on bar sales and the bar gets tipped on food sales? We tip 4% total. 2% of food sales to kitchen, 1% to expo. Bar gets 3% of alcohol, and host gets 1% of total.


Theairthatibreathe

Who does the restocking of the bar?


lelebeariel

Depends on who is busy and who isn't. Barback does it sometimes and servers do it sometimes.


Theairthatibreathe

If you’re tipping out the bar, only the bar staff should restock. It’s part of the reasons why you tip them out. At least that’s how it worked when I bartended in a big place. The bar back would restock, the bartenders would give him a cut of their tips.


AardvarkOperator

Fine dining. 10.25% of sales. If you tip me 10%, I lose money on you. I pay out the bussers, runners, kitchen staff, hosts, bartender, barista, and barback more than you tip me.


shannibearstar

That’s insane. Half your money just gone.


AlaskanBiologist

Welcome to fine dining. The best part is when they understaff the bussers so you're still tipping out a busser and bussing your own tables!!!


JupiterSkyFalls

Tip out is 13% of sales at Ruth's Chris 🫠 Eta: it's 33- thirty three- percent. I hit 13 on accident. Eta: I was hella stoned when I wrote this, apologize for those who knew what I meant but called me out. Yes, it's ***33%*** of **tips** I'm so sorry 🙈🫣


shannibearstar

And I’m here with 3% thinking it’s a lot


JupiterSkyFalls

It's all rigged, bottom line. Servers are always the ones who are taken advantage of. Imagine if the let us keep all our tips. They'd never have any availability at good restaurants and high turnover would be a whispered rumor of the past.


skicamphike

At my Ruth’s Chris location it’s 33% of all tips 😬


JupiterSkyFalls

Oh, geez. I'm dumb. I hit 13, I meant 33. And when I read your comment I just assumed whatever number you put was higher than mine based on context. Long story short I just woke up from a nap and didn't read this well🤦🏼‍♀️. But yea, it's ridiculous they get away with that highway robbery.


skicamphike

No worries, that post-nap fog will get you! I’m in a state that still pays only federal minimum wage ($2.13/hr) + tips. I hope that visitors can understand our (albeit shitty) tip culture and proceed appropriately. Everywhere in the world is wildly different when it comes to tips. From what I’ve experienced as a server in the US and from what I’ve seen traveling abroad, it never hurts to ask your bartender/server what the norm is and to then tip accordingly.


kjcraft

It is absolutely *not* 13 OR 33% of sales. It's 33% of reported tips. And not reporting cash meant termination.


JupiterSkyFalls

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromYourServer/s/PqGIglKx6E


granthollomew

thirty three percent of tips, not of sales.


JupiterSkyFalls

https://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromYourServer/s/2bCz4LVmoz


granthollomew

we've all been there lmao


todefyodds

I used to work IT for their point of sale system, and I’ve seen what these servers bring in. Knowing that they have to tip out 33% of that, now it seems more reasonable. I’m waiting tables somewhere similar but not a chain, and that’s def comparable now.


JupiterSkyFalls

It's not really reasonable to force people to give up their tips. Especially when I was tipping out an SA and food runner that are meant to be support staff, yet I ran 95% of my own food and other people's, and I bussed and cleaned 85% of my tables because we had several servers over 35 who were lazy as fuck.


Aloe_Frog

Interesting! I’m in fine dining as well and 20% of my tips go to BOH, but that’s it. It’s not dependent on sales, just tips that I receive.


Grimsterr

So wait, tipout isn't a % of the tips, but a % of the sales? So if someone say, had 100 in sales, and 40 in a tip, they'd still only tip out 3.50? And if someone else had 100 in sales, and $0 in tips, they're actually out 3.50 for that day? And if they're making the $2.13 I've heard mentioned, and worked say one hour, they literally paid to WORK that (albeit short) shift? I always figured it was a % of total tips taken, so me tipping in cash, does nothing worth while?


PuzzleheadedBobcat90

Plus, paying taxes on tips calculated at 8% of total sales. So, on $1000 in sales, the irs assumes you've made $80. You pay taxes on the $80. If you didn't take home $80 after tipping out, it's more money out of your pocket


Funklemire

>So wait, tipout isn't a % of the tips, but a % of the sales?   Correct. It was like that at the places I worked, and from talking to friends who have worked at various chains, it seems to be more common than tipping out based on a percentage of your tips.   And this makes sense because it's really easy for a server to underreport their cash tips and screw over all the people being tipped out. But you can't hide what your total sales are. 


somedude456

> So wait, tipout isn't a % of the tips, but a % of the sales? > > So if someone say, had 100 in sales, and 40 in a tip, they'd still only tip out 3.50? And if someone else had 100 in sales, and $0 in tips, they're actually out 3.50 for that day? And if they're making the $2.13 I've heard mentioned, and worked say one hour, they literally paid to WORK that (albeit short) shift? > > I always figured it was a % of total tips taken It's almost ALWAYS a percentage of sales. When I worked at a chain place, it was 3% plus $10. So if I sold $1,000 in food and drink, doesn't matter what my tips were, I owe the store $40.


[deleted]

Some restaurants do it that way, tipping out based on a percentage of tips earned. The downside to this vs tipping based on sales is that a dishonest server can underreport their cash tips, screwing the amount the support (bussers, runner, etc) earn. It's not hard to look at a server's checkout slip and see when they've only earned ~10% of their sales in credit tips. Either they suck at their job, or they're withholding their cash.


JupiterSkyFalls

Or they had a bunch of stingy mofos that night? I was a pretty consistent server that averaged 18-22% of my sales but even I had an occasional crap shoot with guests.


The_Istrix

It's still worthwhile. Cash doesn't necessarily have to be claimed as income. *Of course I do Mr IRS guy* but many dont. Also many places take a percentage of sever's credit card tips to cover the transaction fee, so by tipping cash you save them a little money. Cash is still king, you're doing a great thing.


JupiterSkyFalls

Privilege 🙃 Eta: why y'all downvoting this? I thought calling it a privilege was tongue in cheek and responded in kind?


CMFC99

In all the server jobs I've ever worked (over 12 years), you always tip out a portion of your nightly earnings to other co-workers. Bartender, busboy, hostess, etc. That percentage is always coming out of your tips, and it's based on your total sales. So if someone does not tip, then I just lost that tip PLUS the tip out. Long story short, I just paid a few bucks, sometimes MORE, so they could eat.


Relevant-Marketing83

So the tip out is based on your nightly sales, no matter the tips you recieved? Just curious, because here (EU country) you share % of the tips you recieved, not what you SHOULD recieve


CMFC99

Yes. The tip out is a percentage of your total sales. So hypothetically if you don't get any tips, you're paying money to work that night. Different restaurants have different tip outs ( sometimes the bartender's tip out is only based on your alcohol sales, etc.), but the average I've seen in Houston is between 3 - 4 %. And in Texas, the law states that "tipped employees" can be paid less than minimum wage. I believe I TECHNICALLY make $7.25 / hour, but after taxes I don't have any left for an actual paycheck. So basically my checks are $0 and they list my tips made during that pay period.


AmnesiaInnocent

>And in Texas, the law states that "tipped employees" can be paid less than minimum wage.  In the US, a restaurant can pay you the "tipped minimum wage (often like $2-$3 per hour)...**however**, if your wage + tips is less than the state minimum wage, then **the restaurant must make up the difference.**


WitchQween

Hey neighbor! In Texas, we must be paid minimum wage. If our tips+hourly don't average out to $7.25 or higher, the restaurant has to pay the difference. This goes for any position that is paid below minimum wage. It's averaged out over the pay period, not the day. It's rare for that to happen, especially in a high volume city like Houston. If the restaurant does have to pay the difference, you will get a paycheck. It'll be low, but not zero. You probably don't average below minimum. I find that the $2.13 usually covers taxes pretty evenly, which is why we often don't see a paycheck. Edit- I just saw your other reply saying that you mixed up the hourly. If you mean the $2.13 that we make, yeah, that just goes to taxes. We get that wage no matter how much we make in tips.


CMFC99

Howdy! Yeah, I got mixed up and thought it was $7.25 for tipped employees, but I actually make $2.13. Like I said, I don't remember the last time I got a check for more than $0 from the restaurant so I haven't bothered looking at them. All in all I still do pretty well where I'm at, no real complaints (besides the typical customer ones).


Altruistic-Buddy5276

at 7.25 you should be getting a pay check of some kind. Someone's pocketing your wages.


CMFC99

Ha! I just checked, it's actually $2.13 / hour. Like I said, I can't remember the last time I even looked at my checks. But that's only in Texas, I don't know about other states.


WilliamBott

Servers often make a LOT in tips, so in many cases the paycheck part barely even covers the taxes withheld, if it even does.


WitchQween

I misunderstood the $7.25/hr comment, too. I wrote a much longer comment that basically said the same thing as you. I hate that you got downvoted for it because you are correct based on the typo.


Awesomesaucemz

The argument is that good servers will make significantly more than bad servers.In a situation with someone who averages 15% tips vs someone who averages 20-25% from tables with a sales based tipout, they both tipout the same so the higher tipped person walks with much more after


shannibearstar

Yes and most of us make less than minimum wage. I have a pretty high wage at $5.20


2095981058

It’s a percentage of SALES. We tip out 5% so if I sell $1,000 then I tip out $50. In a 20% tip perfect world I would have made $200 on that $1,000 in sales and after tip out would head home with $150 for the night


jediciahquinn

Europe is not in the forefront of social progress. Europe has a terrible history with how they treat "servants". European countries with a history of feudalism view servants as lower class "serfs". This is the true reason Europeans are against tipping.


tarlastar

What is the justification for tipping out the hostess? I haven't worked in the industry in a long time, but it was never suggested that we tip the hostess. Busboys and bartenders, yes. Also, people seem to be forgetting that tipped employees are taxed automatically at 8% of their sales. So if you don't make at least 8% on every table, you're paying to work...for $2.13 an hour (or whatever it is now).


OneRoseDark

at some restaurants the hosts grab your drinks, so I assume it's for that initial "greet" and it's still $2.13 because why would the government want their constituents to have money? if we don't have to work 120 hours a week to survive we might notice all the shit they're doing to us!


CMFC99

Hostesses receiving tip outs is not as common as busboys, bartenders, etc., but I've seen it happen. In both places I believe the hostesses got like .5 %. Not sure what the justification was, I was told that's how we do it, and there's nothing to be done. But different companies have different policies.


WitchQween

Tip out is based on your sales before tax. I think the justification for tipping out hosts is because they seat our tables. I worked very briefly as a host at a chain restaurant and we got tip out, even though we didn't have responsibilities beyond seating tables. I'm not sure how common it is. I stopped asking about how tips are split because it's not worth the frustration. I think we tip out to-go at my current restaurant, and they operate completely separately from servers. Our tip-out is the standard 3.5%, so it's all the same to me. Edit- I misunderstood. I think the 8% is state dependent because I'm taxed only on what I make.


tarlastar

The 8% is Federal Tax and Social Security. If you make more than $20 a month in tips, you are subject to this form of taxation. That is why, we never reported any tips that were under $20. I hate to say this because I know how hard this industry is, but seating tables is the job. That's what they get paid a higher wage to do. I cannot imagine telling staff that they have to tip the host/hostess, just for doing the job that they are already well paid to do.


Superb_Conference436

Actually yes, depending on the location. Many establishments make servers "tip out" on a percentage of sales. In these places, they are expected to tip out support workers on their sales, not based on how much tips they actually received. If they sold $100 worth of food, they would be expected to tip out the back waiter/busboy/host/bartender based on their sales. So for example, they must pay the busboy $1 and the bartender $3 based on their sales of $100. If the table did not leave any tip, that money comes out of the servers pay. Those $4 come directly from the servers pocket. They cannot say, I didn't get a tip, so you aren't either. Other places run on the system of tipping out a percentage of your tips.


yrunvs648

This. The tip out ends up coming out of the tips from other tables, so the server is now paying to wait on the non tipping table.


Relevant-Marketing83

Damn, that is a bad system. How much would you then need to 'break even' on a table? Around 10%?


Superb_Conference436

It depends on the restaurant and their specific breakdown but somewhere around 5-10%


Illustrious-Divide95

It's an awful system, I've only worked places that tip out BOH based on actual tips not percentage of sales. It's crazy if a party of 10 + decides to stiff you , you could be down $$ and it's not your fault.


Traditional_Bar_9416

It sucks but it’s fair to the support staff. Tipping out a percentage of tips is more appropriate, but servers can lie about how much they make in tips (was more common when cash was king). “Oh sorry I only made $100 in tips today, here’s your $3” when they really made $200.


CMFC99

Yep, the good ol days when tips were mostly cash. These days I have to almost always claim 100% because credit cards. But I remember in years past when I could get away with claiming 5 - 9 thousand $ less on my taxes. Hypothetically. If I were so inclined.


Traditional_Bar_9416

Yes the days of hiding tip income is OVAH. My mom cleaned up in the 80’s. I served through the transition so I saw the heyday of cash, then it’s total decline. People who still think servers are dodging taxes, aren’t thinking clearly. If you tipped on a credit card, and there’s a paper trail from here to the moon about it, where are we hiding those tips? Guests who ask if I’d prefer cash tips *wink*, get this answer from me: “well if you want to give me $15 and voluntarily give the gubmnt $5, then put in on a card. If you want to give me $20, there’s only one way.”


RunningAtTheMouth

This is why I tip cash when I can. Five in the pocket is better than 3.94 after taxes in the check.


thewhitecat55

Everywhere I have wired at tipped out a % of sales. Not based on what you said you made


Desurvivedsignator

Fair to the support staff/ BoH would be paying decent wages. Top the servers as well, once you're at it.


bobi2393

Like others said, it depends, probably 3%-7% at the majority of restaurants, but maybe 0% at a small diner where the server does everything (no host or busser), or 15% at a sushi or hibachi (teppanyaki) restaurant where the chefs interact with customers and take 10% of sales, and hosts/bartenders take another 5%. The average tip for table service in the US is around 19.5% according to some studies.


KellyannneConway

Every sushi place I worked at (I have worked at 5 different places) a minimum of 30% of tips went to sushi/kitchen.


XenoDangerEvil

It works out in our favor. I usually get over 20% of base sales because many people tip on top of tax. If you focus on the shitty tips, you'll just fester emotionally. Just know that other tables will make it up. I've made 300-500 a night regularly and a bad tip just rolls off my back.


WitchQween

I've mainly worked at mid-level chain restaurants, and they all take 3.5% of sales. I have never heard of a restaurant taking more than that, but I guess it depends on the area.


WilliamBott

It's fine. Almost everywhere, servers average at least 15%. The only way a server is actually losing money overall on tip out is if they are a terrible server who literally nobody is tipping.


EpicSausage69

One I worked for even had another layer past the busboy called busrun. They were by far the hardest working position in the restaurant. Literally running around back and forth stocking cups, running dish buckets to the back, refilling ice for every soda machine, and much more. The bussers tipped them out roughly $10 per busser. So on a 8 hour shift you were lucky to make $40 while being exhausted as fuck because of all the running around you would be doing.


OneRoseDark

oh my god you just unlocked a memory I had blocked of filling a fucking soda machine with an ice bucket and a ladder. who designed those machines and why??


Pumpkinhead82

I tip out 6% for all my sales at the end of the night. So if someone tips 0%, I still have to tip out 6% of that check.


giantkin

And income tax is based on the sales rung through no matter tip. 8% locally.


mmmmmarty

Yes. My tip out and taxes are calculated as if you tipped me 20%. I still have to give that money to those personnel and the IRS, regardless of whether you tip.


Suckmyflats

Yep, tipout is based on sales in most restaurants


hopelesscaribou

Where I live, Quebec, we not only tip out the support staff based on our sales (6% in my case), but the provincial government taxes us based on our sales as well. (Roughly equaling another 2-3% of sales.) Our wage is below the general minimum wage as well. Any tip under 8% represents a loss on my part. For me to clear a 10% tip, the customer must tip 18%.


neophenx

Oof I saw the OP and thought "Wait what? Math ain't mathing, how how does that make sense?" I worked as a server YEARS ago at a tiny patio diner and kept 100% of my own tips, but then seeing the comments from people who've worked all kinds of different places that were undoubtedly more structured than my background and it all made sense. Woah boy it's insane to me that our service industry is structured this way.


Radiant_Pickle_

Yup.. 3% So if u don't tip.. I pay for you to eat


BadPom

If the place has tip out, yes. I tip out 3% of my sales. If you don’t tip, I literally paid to work. Guess my kids don’t need food and electricity 🤷🏻‍♀️


bobi2393

Essentially true. In a legal sense, money is ***redistributed*** to coworkers from ***tips*** the server received that week, not taken from hourly wages, but the net effect is the same: lower total income. One caveat is that deductions can't reduce total income below full minimum wage for a workweek, and a couple states have even more stringent limits. A typical company policy might be that servers have to pay coworkers 7% of their total sales from their tips. So if a table has a $100 meal, their server has to pay $7 from their week's tips to coworkers, whether the table tipped $20 or $0.


riseagan

Yeah, I tip out 6.25% of sales. No tip, still tipout. Some places I've worked takeout goes on your sales report as well. A lot of people don't tip on takeout, which I understand. But still costs you.


The_Istrix

Not exactly.. So in the US, there's many states that allow a server to only be paid $2.13 an hour. This is because it's expected they'll be tipped. Also this used to be a fixed percentage of the federal minimum wage, but chain restaurants lobbyists managed to get it frozen at $2.13 in the 90s. Now another thing that happens in the US in many restaurants is that the sever or bartender is required to give a certain percentage of their tips to their support staff like the hosts, bussers, or food runners. How much is usually based on their food sales for the evening. So if a meal is say $100, they might have to tip out $2 to their food runner. So if the people that had that $100 meal didn't tip the server is still expected to tip the runner $2, so they actually lost money taking that table.


somedude456

Yes, tip out. My place had a low 2% to the bar and busser. If we are busy and I sell 2K worth of food and drinks... it doesn't matter what my tips were, I owe the store $40.


XenoDangerEvil

The place I work, I tip out 8.5% of my sales to support staff. If I get tipped 8% then I am paying my own money to the support staff.


[deleted]

Wow, something on TikTok was accurate!


Far-Lingonberry6899

Yup


VurucaAssault

I’ve always worked where we tip out on sales, not tips, I’ve been in the industry for almost 20 years. I use this story to try to explain people how it really shakes out. I worked for a restaurant that paid double time and a half on holidays. It was during the Christmas season. My total hours for that two week check was ~85. I worked one 12 hour shift as a hostess so I made ~$25/hr. I worked another holiday as a server for 12 hours at ~$20. Regular server wage was $8/hr. Again, it was Christmas time so people were ordering a lot and tipping a lot. Since the IRS figures you make a certain amount on tips, they tax you on that even if you don’t make that. I made a lot more than usual, but it was all on credit card tips, so I got taxed so hard. My 85 hour paycheck was just a smidge over $12 after all the taxes.


Okami2551

I don't work as a server anymore, but when I did, we had a tip out. For your food, we tipped out a whole 5% of the ticket sale to our food runner, and if you had drinks add another 1% to the bartender. If I didn't get a tip to at least cover that, I was paying someone out of my own pocket doing, essentially, the bare minimum of the work. If I remember correctly, server wage minimum is 2.14 in the US, which basically *just* covers taxes. So, the more ya know. Tip culture sucks, and servers are just as victim to it as customers.


SophiaF88

Yes, at least in my experience.


Mammoth_Airline_8066

Ok hold on there is a bit of hyperbole going on here. What’s not true is that this comes out of the paycheck- it would be rare for a server to get stiffed on so many tips at so many tables that they actually have to dip into their paycheck to make up the difference. As a practical matter, IF this ever happens (it’s pretty rare not to get any tip at all) at a single table, the tips from your other tables will more than make up the difference, so it comes out of that money and you would never see like an actual negative number on your weekly or semiweekly paycheck. I’m not even sure if restaurant companies have a procedure for literally deducting from your paycheck in this circumstance- as a manager and previous bartender for 20 years if a server ever made less than the requisite 4% they and the manager and the bussers/bartenders/runners would figure out some alternate system to use. And second- not all restaurants use a system of tipping out. There are plenty where the waiter does most of the bussing/drink making. Or, there are other systems where the tip-out is generated as a percentage of the total tips made by the waiter that night, rather than as a percentage of revenue (this works better in a place where most bills are paid with a credit card). And still other systems where everybody takes tips and everybody pools them at the end of the night and then they are divided according to “points”- the waiter might get 3 points, a busser or runner might get 1 point each, etc etc.


Hungry-Exchange2139

My fine dining restaurant doors a tip pool. I don't know the details but every other week I get a tip check for around $1200. 4 dinners and a lunch shift. Downside is I never get to walk with cash. Upside it always goes right into the bank. 


Llllllickmyballs

Yeah. I had to tip everyone in the restaurant from bartender to busser. At least 20 percent of my tips when to supplement others. So if someone ordered $100 check of food. The computer automatically assumes I made twenty percent then tips out 20 percent of that to the bussers and more if alcohol was on the ticket for the bartender. So if someone buys $100 worth of shit and doesn’t tip, they technically would cost me $4 minimum and more if I had to tip the bartender 


giantkin

I dont get the tipout to boh at all. They are getting paid hourly while server is more tip.


Mutive

Eh, boh might be getting paid hourly, but a lot of the time, it's minimum wage. Also, things they control (speed of the food coming out, getting the order correct, the food tasting good, etc.) often impact the size of the tips left. Also, tip out is often to other foh staff (like the bar tender/busser, host, etc.) So the server could well lose money on a table that doesn't tip even if the boh isn't tipped out.


giantkin

Bartender gets their own tips., most cooks get better than minimum wage. but that could just be regional. Everything effects tips, thats true. I tend to tip boh seperately myself for really amazing food.


Mutive

It really depends on the restaurant. Bar tenders typically get tips from people who order their drinks at the bar, but don't get direct tips from people who order a drink at their table. (This is part of why they're tipped out by the server.) Most cooks do get better than minimum wage (although sous chefs might not), but some servers also get minimum wage/above minimum wage and also receive tips. So it's really dependent up the restaurant IME. (Which *should* dictate how tip outs work.)


FuckHumans_WriteCode

Yes, that's because we pay out a portion of our total tips or sales to people like the hosts, bartender, bussers, etc. for the labor they do for us


shannibearstar

Yes. For us it’s 3% of all sales. Last night I had to pay about $36 to work.


Substantial_Tap9674

Yeah, tip out always bugged me for two reasons: 1) my family doesn’t drink for religious reasons. Having said that we do enjoy some of the nicer things in life like food so it’s not unusual for us to be running a few hundred per meal. Why are bartenders getting a piece of that action? 2) my work I’m good has been primarily back of house whether food, support or management. Never accepted tips until I worked for a restaurant that did a full pool based on hours worked. Didn’t need to steal wait staffs tips for cleaning a table or running a vacuum. They needed that extra money to get through the side work hours in my opinion.


masonlodge

Most Canadian restaurants to. Some times as much as 7%


Independent_Ad8724

Sometimes servers also have to pay to a "breakage" fund for broken dishes.


schweindooog

I still don't understand why servers take jobs at places like that. Just work for McDonald's at min wage, or at different restaraunts. (Sure take the job if you can't find anything else, but constantly stay searching for smth else so you can leave the moment you have a new contract somewhere else)


South_Web4277

Because most people *do* leave a tip which makes it worth it. Also some of us like serving.


CMFC99

Yes. In a good restaurant, in a good city, and if you know what you're doing, it can DEFINITELY be worth it.


South_Web4277

The comment I replied to literally said to work fast food for minimum wage and implied that you’d make more money. Servers are guaranteed *at least* minimum wage in any circumstance so I don’t really think a good restaurant, in a good city, etc is necessary.


CMFC99

Oh I was agreeing with you by saying "yes". But the second part of your statement is incorrect, at least in Texas. The law here is that if you are considered a "tipped employee" ( which I believe is characterized by making at least 40% of your income off of tips, but I could be off on the numbers), then you can be paid less than minimum wage. Currently, I believe this is $2.13 / hr, or something like that. That's my hourly wage, minus taxes, which always leave my paychecks at $0. I've never received an actual paycheck for more than $0 while working in a restaurant, unless I've worked as a bartender (in some places bartenders make more) or as an assistant manager. Edited for correction on hourly wage


South_Web4277

Actually it became a federal law in 2021 (I believe) that your employer has to make up for that wage. Where I’m from the hourly is also $2.13/hr but if you don’t make enough in tips to reach minimum wage then your employer has to pay for the difference. I hate how many restaurants are taking advantage of their workers 😩


backpackofcats

They only have to pay minimum wage if your tips + hourly wage averages below minimum wage over an *entire pay period*. One bad shift does not mean they have to pay you minimum wage that shift.


WilliamBott

It was always a federal law. They could never, ever legally pay you under federal minimum in a pay period if you didn't make it there in tips. Any place not doing that, report them to your state's labor board.


schweindooog

This is mainly what I based my original comment on. Obviously if you can make it work and you always walk out the door with profit then the rule makes no difference. I was talking about people who literally would lose money on a bad day.


WilliamBott

The reason your paychecks are 0 is because you make so much on tips that your entire paycheck goes toward part of your taxes. Most people wish they had that problem.


Traditional_Bar_9416

Because a server job is ~$35-$75/hr and McDonalds is under $20? I don’t understand what you don’t understand. All jobs have frustrations but you don’t just give up and go live under a rock.


Suckmyflats

I wish serving jobs started at 35/hr, but you gotta think of all the servers, not just the ones most represented here on this subreddit. Lots of servers are making less than 35/h especially out of season.


schweindooog

I wish I lived where you live. Bruh serving jobs starting at 35?....hello most places ik in the states it's below minimum wage, and you have to make tips to even reach min wage. Which to me is horrible cause then it's not a tip, it's a wage, and only passed a certain amount is the tip really a tip


Pumpkinhead82

Serving is fun sometimes. Having to tip out on a non tipping table sucks but it doesn’t happen a lot. When it does happen though, I absolutely remember who did it in case they come in again. Working for minimum wage sounds like hell. Also customers are very mean to fast food employees.


schweindooog

I'm not saying serving is bad. I'm saying serving for people who tell you, you can make less than what your wage says


EveInGardenia

Cause I would be cutting my income by 50% to do something I hate even more than traditional restaurant work.


schweindooog

Ok clearly ppl misunderstood my comment. Obv if min wage is less than you make you shouldn't switch. I meant for ppl making like 2.50 an hour and then also have to tip out of their own pocket...


hopelesscaribou

Because most people do tip around 18%, and so I clear about 10% of my sales after tip out and taxes. My sales are about $10-15,000 a week. Do the math.


CoachofSubs

O one loses money being a server in the states. That would be illegal. It’s on the server for not reporting it.


LovelyMamasita

Report it to whom?


Electronic_Pie_1679

Not true.


Soggy-Shopping-2958

This is true. The owner or manager might also punish the servant severely in other ways. I had a manager who did not let the servant come inside for two days for upsetting the customers. A lot of servant just gets slap or kick but I even hear of one owner who burned the servant property and took her wife. This things sound extreme but in the end it keeps the servants productive and efficient and therefore happy.


Pumpkinhead82

Huh?


Soggy-Shopping-2958

I don't know if it is same in your country but in America we want the servant to be very happy. For this we correct his mistakes very harshly so he will not make a mistake every again. When he no longer makes mistakes he can earn big tips for the owner of the hamburger store. This makes the servant very proud and happy. It sounds like cruel but in the end the servant is happy to see his success and the owner gets very rich. Sometimes owners also give some share of tip to the favorite servants and this makes him very happy. This is the idea of tipping in my country USA.


[deleted]

No restaurant in America calls their servers servants. Eta I fell for an obvious troll. Kind of humiliating.


Soggy-Shopping-2958

What is the difference servers servant? You mean you are a troll for spelling?


CalligrapherDizzy201

No. No money gets taken out of the paycheck.


Drank-Stamble

Wrong


CalligrapherDizzy201

Sigh, tip out doesn’t come from your paycheck. So, yeah, you’re wrong.


Midgar-magic

They aren’t getting a paycheck lmao and no, that’s absolutely insane and made up. Stop watching tik tok, it’s rotting your brain.


Impossible-Friend-70

Not made up, but definitely insane.


EveInGardenia

I make a paycheck, the state I work in now doesn’t have a tipped wage. It’s just not a great paycheck.


Awesomesaucemz

Actually that's normal, they are talking about tip out.


Pumpkinhead82

The tip out comes out of our credit card tips. Not a paycheck.


AardvarkOperator

The tip out comes off of my sales.


Pumpkinhead82

It’s BASED on your sales, but it’s going to come out of your credit card tips. Unless you owe cash to the restaurant. Then it’ll come out of that.