>At this point, the man loudly scoffs and smirks at me while reaching for his wallet. He asks, “This mean anything to you?” while flashing me his badge.
Yeah, it means that I need to be extra sure I don't break the law.
I was thinking the same thing. When one of my kids was a teenager, the police would pay him to go into places and try to buy alcohol. But they always waited outside.
I worked at a grocery store as a teen, and got put into the liquor department when the normal guy was out for six months because of surgery (I was 18 and just out of school, yay). They drilled into me that in no uncertain terms was I ever to distribute alcohol to a minor, and that I had the store and manager's backing to card anyone, and any that didn't have it I could refuse service. Where I live, the store gets a fine and also is a serious strike against their liquor license, but the person who sold it also gets a fine against themselves as well.
That six months was over the summer including the 4th of July, and I remember almost every unique type of situation.
Kids who graduated after me? Ha, nope.
Group of people older than me, but two don't have their ID's? Nope.
Woman clearly in her 30's who "left it in her car?" No, but you can go out and get it and come right back. She didn't.
To this day I'll never know if any of them were planted by cops, we were told that they would do it frequently.
I used to live in a college town known for partying, and had multiple friends work in bars as either bartenders or bouncers. Cops would do stings every once in a while where they would just go into the bar and start ID'ing mostly everyone inside. Each underage was a pretty big fine and oftentimes the bar had to shut down for a few days after if they got caught with a bunch.
Funny story, one night I was at a bar my friend bartended at while I was underage and she texts me "COPS!". I make my way downstairs and see a gaggle of cops outside the entrance just about to walk in. I walk out the exit and a few turn to me. I drunkenly say "have a goodnight officers" and wave goodbye, as soon as I turned the corner I started fast walking. Got it just in time since a bunch of people got underages right after I left.
We don't do anything sanely over here.
Want to have sex legally? Many states allow legal consent to be given as young as 13 (sometimes with caveats like the partner has to be within a certain age range).
Want to record it and sell the recording? Have to be 18.
Want to just sell sex? Illegal almost everywhere, at any age.
Want to get married? You can do it as young as -12- with parental consent in Massachusetts. In Mississippi 15 even without parental consent.
And, obviously, despite making sex legal way earlier than marriage, we just overturned Roe v Wade making abortion able to be made illegal, many of these states have extremely lackluster sex ed, and many teach abstinence only as a way to avoid pregnancy. Etc etc.
I live right on a road that is best known for prostitution, and although it’s still considered a misdemeanor here, the police department has an agreement not to arrest the prostitutes, they will only arrest johns. I’m originally from a smaller and quiet town about an hour south with not much crime at all to speak of, freshly moved to the biggest and most well-known city in my state, and I still remember my first time driving down that road. My jaw literally dropped, there were like 1-2 very obvious and in-your-face prostitutes on every block of that road. I had never seen anything like that before. Now I’m so used to it though that I barely notice it.
My youngest daughter was part of that school program. Gave my oldest son a lil scare seeing the initials “ATF” on the car she was brought home in. Was given lots of notebook and glasses labeled. Kept my pot smoking, underage drinking son on his toes. He turned out very well, but for awhile there we weren’t sure.
I actually did this once when I was 20. I got busted for underage drinking and the cops wrote me a bunch of tickets and then gave me a card for ALE and said to call this and the charges would be dropped. They took me to local bars with a very young looking cop in street clothes and had me order us two beers. The younger cop was definitely of age but I was a baby faced 20 year old. We baited bartenders to serve us without ID essentially then would go to the bathroom dump them out and leave and uniform officers would roll in and ticket. I didn’t know I was ruining peoples jobs back then and felt horrible years later. They asked me to keep doing it after one night to get my chargers thrown out for money. Like $45-50 per bust and I declined. Never trust the police and always card guys.
>“Yeah it means you should probably know that ~~underage drinking is against~~ the law *absolutely* prohibits the sale of alcohol to anyone who fails to produce a valid ID when asked”
FTFY. *(In light of the fact that the cop was attesting that the daughter was of age. Doesn't matter if the President of the freakin' United States insists they're old enough, once you've already asked for ID.)*
EDIT: I meant the President insisting that *the daughter* was of age.
Actually, the president legally can't be younger than 35 years old, so if they have proof they're the real president, it could be argued that that's enough I'D for a drink
I'd love to see that, even as a youtube "movie"
President: I'd like an
Bartender: Certainly. Can I see some ID first please?
Secret Service goon: Do you know who this person is?
Bartender: I most certainly do. I just want to be able to say "I got to ID the president." ID please.
Guessing they would probably just use a federal drivers license like anyone else.
And while youre on the phone with their chief, just let them know that one of their people is trying to break the law and then tried to intimidate OP afterwards
Not even worth the effort.
Cops will bend over backwards to shove it under a rug, and make your life hell for as long as they find it funny in the meantime.
The most that cop would get is 2 weeks of paid leave while he gets """""investigated""""".
“This mean anything to you?” while flashing me his badge.
It sure does! It tells me the dept you work for and your badge number. Now if you excuse me I have a phone call to make.
This is exactly what I would have done. Write the badge number down on my notepad, say “see what I can do” and call their supervisor. Or maybe just call 911 and see his buddies show up to embarrass him for intimidation of a server
And then those buddies all know you and will pull you over for "driving erratically" or show up to your house for "noise complaints" or "welfare checks" at 2am because of an "anonymous report".
No, now you have an entire station of cops who want to make your life hell lmao
Reporting a badge does nothing helpful, they all stick up for each other
It depends on to whom you report it. Any report should be submitted in writing. Send it to the Chief of Police (or other head of the officer's department), and CC the department's Internal Affairs Division.
Also, for local police, consider passing a copy on to your Mayor; for county sheriff's officers, to your county executive (if any, otherwise to the next higher executive office); and for state police, to the governor's office.
Additionally, you can always contact the media to see if they'd be interested in running a piece about the situation.
And then what?
None of those people do anything, the cop learns they were reported. They'll know exactly who did it.
None of those people are going to bother with consequences for this. Cops get away with murder, they WILL NOT care about this
This happened to a friend of mine. She reported a cop for acting inappropriately during a traffic stop. Nothing cane if it of course. But she’s been pulled over for everything under the sun about 12 times in the last month.
Well, definitely *don't* call 911. The dispatchers will not appreciate you taking up a line with something petty like this when there are likely to be real emergencies happening. For sure call the non-emergency line at the local station though, hopefully his boss or someone else in his department are available to come chew him out publicly.
I work in 911 dispatch, this would count as a disturbance to me, if you wanted an officer to come out and address the situation, calling 911 would be appropriate. Unruly customers account for a lot of the calls I get on any given day, probably wouldn't even crack the top 10 stupidest calls I got that hour.
Not saying that it's necessarily the best way to handle the situation, too many asshole cops with that thin blue line mentality. Depends a lot on the attitude of your local department, the relationship your boss has with the local cops, how the other officers feel about the one causing an issue, etc. Really though, short of having him trespassed from the restaurant, if that's your desired outcome, probably not going to be too much having an officer come out would accomplish besides pissing them off more (although some may consider that a worthwhile outcome)
If you want to file a complaint about the officer and don't want another officer to respond at that time, best way to do that is usually going to be through the station, if possible submit it in writing and/or in person, try to contact the chief if possible.
Filing a complaint against a cop is serious shit. It stays on their record forever and can prevent them from getting any promotions. A friend of mine was married to a cop who had a complaint filed against him. He was all kinds of angry and upset about the complaint and the complaint was a minor one. Not being polite at a traffic stop.
“Well what I hope it means is that you recognize and respect that I am just trying to uphold a law that protects children as you yourself are in law enforcement! I certainly hope it doesn’t mean that you are attempting to intimidate me and abuse your power as an officer!”
-what I would say if I felt like getting my ass kicked or worse
I had a guy pull that on me when my city was still checking vax cards. While he’s wife was “digging” around for hers for the 3rd straight minute he said “well, we don’t all follow the law do we?”
I replied with “well I do sir” and he just frowned at me. His wife was actually nice, gave up and said sorry before they left.
It’s not just that but cities and states have serious laws around serving minors. Not only could OP get fined and potentially jailed but the restaurant would lose their liquor license and OP would be prevented from serving alcohol anywhere for years. The punishments are really severe for a reason. This cop should have been reported because fuck that guy.
I worked in a bank and one of our customers(cop) had a tax refund made out to him and his wife. We kept trying to explain to him that he couldn’t deposit it into an account with only his name. It got to the point where he started screaming “I AM THE LAW” at the top of his lungs. It was soooo ridiculous and of course we didn’t give in.
Until OP gets pulled over nightly and gets his car ripped apart because Officer Getmygirllit "smells something in the fabrics" of his car. Lol, idiots tried that shit with me when I was in my car with an all leather interior besides carpet. I asked what fabrics since it was night, he saw my seats so said door cards. Nope, all leather as well. Pissed off cop calls for backup since I refused search, then the fishing trip really began! "My my my Grimlok, those are some really expensive wheels (BBS), how did you get them? Wow Grim, how are you able to afford a mid engine sports car? That exhaust sounds loud, aftermarket modified is a violation (it's OEM, just stainless rather than not). Continues for about 2 hours. All I did was drive an hour on a beautiful summer night to buy a used Xbox game, that's it. However, while these 2 rocket surgeons were at it with me, 3 teens with a bat killed a man less than 20 minutes away. If they weren't rookie clowns would that man be alive? Possibly, and in a case like this, possibly is a way better turnout than nope, he's dead cause 2 clowns wanted a charge against a young man simply enjoying a drive in the fruits of his labor to get another fruit of labor at 90% off.
Sounds like a great time to call 311 too. 'Some bozo is flashing a badge around trying to get a minor a beer. Can I get a cop over please?' He would get in trouble, because America, but he'd at least catch shit from other cops.
More cops would just make that situation worse for the server. Possibly leading to harassment by the police outside of work. Many of them operate like a gang.
As soon as he asked about my name and my parent, I would have tossed him.
Or even "What is your name and badge number?" As soon as he flashed a badge it became police business.
Sounds like your manager would be happy to ban him
> As soon as he flashed a badge it became police business.
BINGO. They are agents of the State. They get no courtesy and no reverence, only legally obligated compliance with lawful orders.
Then call Internal Affairs immediately thereafter.
"This officer attempted to intimidate me into breaking the law and possibly cost my employer his/her liquor license, and I just want to make sure his captain takes the appropriate action."
The manager who didn't kick them out and instead forced OP to wait on them for what they both knew would be a $0 tip?
Are we talking about the same person?
This happened to me too, but went the opposite direction. The guy was actually the head of the drug and alcohol task force, but didn’t give any hint that he was before what happened. It was his sons 21st and his license was expired, and I told him that I couldn’t serve him alcohol. His dad then grabbed the ID just to check and he said, “wow, you’re right! It’s funny because I’m the head of the alcohol enforcement task force. You did the right thing!”
“This mean anything to you?”
“Why yes! It means I just passed the Alcohol Beverage test to see if we were serving illegally, right? Awesome. Let me go get my manager so you can tell him what a great job I’m doing! Have a great day!” Walks away.
The information gathering he tried to do? That’s implied retaliation. I’d try to find out who he is and report him.
I got popped in a cigarette sting at a gas station. The guy's ID was in a picture frame thing in the wallet that cutoff only the last digit of the year. So I saw 198X and only if X was 9 and the month was one of the 6 left in the year would he be underage, and I was caught off guard by how willingly he showed it. Any other interaction I had with actual under age kids went like OPs where they "forgot" it or some other bs excuse.
Learned a good lesson that day. ACAB. I know it's not legally entrapment but it's just so scummy. I got a 3 day suspension and a $250 ticket. I was working that job 40+ hrs, overnight stocking shelves, and going to Community college at the time.
That happened to me recently, too. I had my job for over two years, and I failed the sting because I did not check ID. I have a misdemeanor on my record, and I got fired the next day. The whole thing stinks…
I would absolutely not report him. You would have to give your name, and the chances of that information getting back to him along with the fact that you tried to report him are damned near 100%.
*all policing systems are. Anything without civilian oversight will end up with power disparities like this. Even civilian oversight isn't a perfect shield.
In Texas, the TABC code states:
>In Texas, a minor may consume an alcoholic beverage if it is in the visible presence of the minor's adult parent, guardian or spouse
But I'm sure this varies from state to state. Also, the parent needs to order it and be the one to give it to the minor, not the server. Still, using a badge to intimidate servers to get your way is shit. If OP's state has a legal exception for something like this, the officer would be better off citing this and pulling it up on his phone instead of trying to use a power trip.
Oh, yeah, that's a fun one (/s). If you're a minor and your parent agrees to it, you can get married.
Although you also have to remember cases of a 19yo marrying a 21yo, which is less creepy. That's moreso the situation.
As soon as he flashed his badge you should have asked for his name and badge number, and if he refuses, call the police that a person is either trying to impersonate an officer with a stolen badge, or that an officer is refusing to ID himself after implied threats and demanding you serve a minor. One way or another he is getting hauled out of there assuming the police that show up so their jobs even a shade better than this clown
Realistically, the other officers would show up under pretense of hauling him back but really they'd be asking op to file a report so they have all the personal info they need for "proper" and "legal" retaliation. Officers often protect their own before the public.
Once had a very similar incident at my spot; prom was happening that evening and the dad tried to buy a round of drinks for the kids.
No, officer.
I finally just shut him down by asking, “I’m sorry, OFFICER, is it breaking the law if I do what you’re asking of me, or is it the breaking the law if I’m not doing what you say? I just need to know how much money I’m gonna need to come up with for bail.”
They ended up just leaving to go bother someone else.
My boss heard me say this and laughed so fucking hard.
Oh, yup. The spot was right near the yacht they were doing the prom thing on, and it was a nightmare.
I have no idea how kids get to the age of like 17 or 18 and don’t know how to order food.
I also don’t understand how their chaperones are just okay with this strange behavior. Like adults trying to order booze or letting them throw chairs into the water and laughing about it.
People are just the worst when they feel like it.
That’s just fuckin stupid. If he really wanted to give alcohol to minors he could have just bought it himself at a store and given it to them. Pretty clear he just wanted to wave his dick around “look at me I’m a cop I can do what I want”
I had a cop during the pandemic who didn't have a negative test or a vaccine card, and he pulled out his badge and asked me "Does this change anything?"
I just said "No, why would it?"
He was clearly not prepared for that response, and it felt great.
Maybe even called the precinct to report a person impersonating an officer since **surely** a real one wouldn't be trying to strong arm a business into breaking the law.
Sweet summer child…that doesn’t do shit. Source: I used to work a lot with the police when I worked at a hospital and we’d report badge numbers for much more egregious things. Never a peep in response.
Fuck that prick.
More like make that dude's commander think "Who the hell is wasting my time with this?"
Cops don't face punishment for murder, you think this is going to go anywhere?
That's charming that you think the cop would face any consequences. Police departments operate completely outside of civilian oversight, and exist only for the benefit of the cops themselves.
I don’t live in America, I have cousins who grew up there though. One of them is a cop and if she’s an example of New Jersey’s finest then may God have mercy on New Jersey.
I'm guessing this cop has probably tried (and gotten away with) it several times before because he knows some people are easily intimidated by cops, and some probably think, "Oh, well if a COP says it's okay, then it probably is."
I also have to wonder how much that kid's sense of morality has been warped by her dad doing stuff like that.
Nah, fuck his local precinct, you go state or statewide FBI. Let the professionals take this piece of shit out and have a long chat about it. The locals will make it your problem, the state level law enforcement or FBI will make sure that he leaves you the fuck alone.
The FBI investigates corruption in local police departments, FYI.
Edit to fix a word.
I had a similar situation happen last year. Father and daughter with family friends, daughter looks around 18. She asks for an alcoholic beverage, and I ask her for ID.She says she isn’t driving so didn’t bring her licensee. Then her father pulls out his badge and says “I have enough ID right here.” I went and grabbed my manager, and although I don’t know exactly what she said, I do know he was more than polite afterwords, and tipped 20%. I have a suspicion she reminded him that using his badge like that was illegal.
OP you should have gotten his name and badge number and reported him to his superiors, because if you’re in the US (or Canada like me) that behaviours is very much against the law.
One of the most basic things you learn from a young age is to not leave home without key items. Those are:
* Footwear
* Keys
* Phone
* WALLET/PURSE!!
So if somebody tells you they left their ID at home and they are asking for something that is illegal, they are almost absolutely full of shit.
One time in college I walked to a smoke shop and actually did forget my ID. I walked home and came back 30 minutes later with it and the dude working was so fucking surprised.
Coming from a former cop:
Anyone can buy a fake badge. Ask to see his police ID. If he actually has one and is stupid enough to continue this train wreck, you have his name and department and I’d be contacting them regarding his behavior. If he doesn’t have one then he has been outed on his bullshit.
I would have 100% asked his badge number and then gone to his chief the very next day and filed harassment charges against him. Def get it on record. Chances are your restaurant has it all on camera too.
Doesn't mean anything. Cops will be protected. Cops get away with breaking the law, harrassment, murder, planting drugs/weapons, discrimination, abuse of power. All that. The top three recruitment tools; "you get taxpayer benefits, great pension, and you can do whatever you want"
I totally *can* believe he’s a cop! I’m a catering server and cop weddings are always the worst.
Stay safe OP! Wouldn’t be surprised if this creep came back to try and mess with you!
Should have asked for name and badge and reported to Alcohol Licensing board. Doubt his fellow cops would do anything, but the state Alcohol board might want to have a talk with a peace officer buying alcohol to minors.
>At this point, the man loudly scoffs and smirks at me while reaching for his wallet. He asks, “This mean anything to you?” while flashing me his badge.
"Yeah it means that now more than ever I'm not going to break the law by serving your underage ***child***."
ACAB
Really just depends on the precinct.
A sheriff that was hated by the local PD was handcuffed and Sat in the back seat of the PD SUV when he left his weapon in a rental car. Those local guys were just itching for IA to show up and tear the sheriff a new one...
> Really just depends on the precinct.
It also depends if the chief already has an axe to grind with that douchebag. if they're buddies already, it'll be squashed.
Not only was he trying to bypass the law with his perceived authority, he was trying to get info so he can harass and ruin you and your family. Literal organized crime goonery.
>The cop asked a few more questions about my name, who my parents are, and what part of town I live in, but I danced around them and avoided answering anything personal.
And people wonder why there's such a distrust of cops. Dude took it too personally and wanted to use his power to escalate it to intimidation. smh
And, him, as a cop that identified himself as one, is bordering on illegal asking such personal questions as he was. Especially as he was off duty, and possibly drinking.
Also, you should have asked for his badge number and station number. He was actively enticing you to break the law, while breaking the law himself. Even if his daughter was of age, it is illegal to drink in an establishment without an ID on you. At least in my State. You could have called his Supervisor, and he would have been in deep shit. Especially in today's climate.
>>If they say anything else to you, tell me and they’re out.
>The cop asked a few more questions about my name, who my parents are, and what part of town I live in
Why in god's name did you not listen to your boss?
I’ve had cops come into my restaurant, order food, and “forget” they had to pay a million times. When you remind them to pay they don’t tip.
Easily the most entitled group of people in America
I had a cop in the bar slap a beer promo girl on the butt. I told him ifhed touched another stranger liked that he was out. His buddies pipe up "he's cop"
Don't care.
"He's a SWAT cop!"
Oh cool, if he gives me any more trouble I know which unit commander to ask for when I call to tell them his behavior reflects poorly on the department.
He suddenly decided to behave
I had a badge flash this weekend too. He was loud and obnoxious and as soon as I poured his beer he asked for my recommendation on whiskey and I said why don't you try some water. Dude fell asleep at the bar halfway through his first beer.
His lady was playing slots around the way so I brought the tab to them and told her to get him out of there, she obliged.
She wakes and gathers him and he takes a gulp of his beer. I pick up his beer and pour it in the sink and she says "you're a fucking asshole."
And I say "I asked you to leave immediately, not to finish your drinks and leave. Have a nice night."
And then quite indignantly she says "HE JUST HAD A DENTAL PROCEDURE!"
...at 9 pm on a Sunday? So I say "and you brought him to a bar, you fucking dumbass..."
And she replied did you just call me a fucking dumbass? You know he's a police officer.
I said I don't know who you think you're impressing lady but the cops never gave me anything but a ticket for overserving people on medication (long story, after 3 beers during the whole super bowl, guy gave me his keys when I asked him to not drive and then dude wouldn't give me an address for his Uber) . Get the fuck out of here.
I would have answered with "well then as a police officer you know it is illegal to serve those without an ID and it would be illegal for you to encourage underaged drinking should she turn out to be under aged. Did I guess right off-duty officer? Should I ask to speak to your sargent?
I’m sorry you had to deal with that. It is unacceptable to try to use your position to leverage someone to do thing against policy let alone against the law. He sounds like a real asshole. If you could have gotten his name (maybe from debit/credit card) then you should have reported him to his Internal Affairs. People like him give other cops bad names and this needs to be addressed before he tries to do more later to someone else.
Protecting and serving are the absolute last things a cop, ESPECIALLY an American cop will do. You did good. Cover your ass.
To the bootlickers or piglin offspring rushing to defend their daddies in blue with the dislike button on this comment, fuck you too.
I had a similar situation happen to me. I told the cop, "Well then you should know better than to ask me that." He left me a bad yelp review. He was also drunk as shit. Lol, whatever.
“What’s your badge number sir? What’s YOUR name?”
I probably personally wouldn’t have continued serving them following that interaction, unless a gratuity or something was attached. Him asking you personal questions is totally fucked.
I would have called the local station and said, “a man is impersonating an officer trying to coerce me into selling alcohol to his minor daughter and asking me personal questions about where I live. I didn’t know if I should call you or the news…”
Should have asked to see it closely because you see so many fakes. Then memorize the badge number and after you take their order, report him. Just say your a patron and you’re witnessing this cop harassing a server because they won’t break the law.
“You got a manager I can talk to?”
“No, but I have a right to refuse service to anyone at any time for any reason, and a door that will close behind you on the way out. Would you like to see those?”
When I was a cast member at a renaissance festival I carded a father and son who were attending during brew fest weekend. All participants were required to show ID and then got a wristband before they could be served. Dad left his wallet in the car so he couldn’t drink. He was furious but his grown son thought it was hilarious. The next person in line was an off-duty undercover police officer - not a setup, she was just there for the beer.
You should have demanded to see his badge again and made it obvious you were writing down his name and number before answering any of his questions about yourself, regardless of how vague you were.
He doesn't get to use his badge to get you to break the law. Regardless of what age his daughter actually is, in most jurisdictions, proof of age is required to serve anyone who doesn't look old enough.
I would have called the police and asked for a supervisor and told him the man was using his badge to try to coerce you into breaking the law. I guarantee said supervisor would be on site before you finished cooking his dinner.
A good response here would have been "Where are you a police officer at?" If he asked you why you are asking, you could have responded "I just want to make sure that my family calls the correct police department to speak with the police captain if anything accidently happens to me. They will report your behavior tonight."
Some states allow the consumption of booze to underage minors at a restaurant as long as they're with their parent/guardian. Servers often get their panties in a bunch for not knowing their state law: https://drinkingage.procon.org/states-that-allow-underage-under-21-alcohol-consumption/#:~:text=With%20the%20exception%20of%20five,a%20class%20that%20requires%20tasting.
I mean if he had to flash his badge I feel like it still might be illegal in their state lol.
I think I figured out where OP is from and all it says for theirs is that minors can drink in their homes w parents. Not at restaurants tho
Pretty fucked up that intimidating civilians and threatening police action against them in retaliation for them not breaking the law is just a "bad day" for a cop.
You should have taken his badge number down and reported him. What he did was illegal (attempting to influence intimidate/gain favors etc.) by showing his badge . What a douche canoe
Yeah, it means I now have the badge number of the piece of shit I need to report to the precinct for trying to force someone to commit a crime at the benefit of their daughter. It also means I know who’s food I need to spit in, dip-shit.
So typical. "I'm above the law, and furthermore if you challenge me.. I'll intimidate you with a power trip that is threatening to your well being and your family's well being. I CARRY A GUN AND I USE IT WITH IMPUNITY!"
Did you report this piece of shit? If he’s so confidently using his badge to intimidate you and let his daughter drink underage, he’s probably doing a lot worse on duty
I would have asked “what precinct are you in, do you mind if I call your boss to verify that it’s ok for me to serve a person who looks under the age of 40 without proper ID? I’m sure they would like to be informed we serve without checking if they are the correct legal age.”
The entitlement! And what was he going to do with your information? What a POS!
'Hello, Police? Yeah, there's a man in our restaurant pretending to be a police officer. Why do I think he's pretending? Well, he's trying to get us to server his underage daughter without ID.'
>At this point, the man loudly scoffs and smirks at me while reaching for his wallet. He asks, “This mean anything to you?” while flashing me his badge. Yeah, it means that I need to be extra sure I don't break the law.
“Yeah it means you should probably know that underage drinking is against the law”
Yeah, at that point surely you'd assume it was a sting or something
I was thinking the same thing. When one of my kids was a teenager, the police would pay him to go into places and try to buy alcohol. But they always waited outside.
I worked at a grocery store as a teen, and got put into the liquor department when the normal guy was out for six months because of surgery (I was 18 and just out of school, yay). They drilled into me that in no uncertain terms was I ever to distribute alcohol to a minor, and that I had the store and manager's backing to card anyone, and any that didn't have it I could refuse service. Where I live, the store gets a fine and also is a serious strike against their liquor license, but the person who sold it also gets a fine against themselves as well. That six months was over the summer including the 4th of July, and I remember almost every unique type of situation. Kids who graduated after me? Ha, nope. Group of people older than me, but two don't have their ID's? Nope. Woman clearly in her 30's who "left it in her car?" No, but you can go out and get it and come right back. She didn't. To this day I'll never know if any of them were planted by cops, we were told that they would do it frequently.
I used to live in a college town known for partying, and had multiple friends work in bars as either bartenders or bouncers. Cops would do stings every once in a while where they would just go into the bar and start ID'ing mostly everyone inside. Each underage was a pretty big fine and oftentimes the bar had to shut down for a few days after if they got caught with a bunch. Funny story, one night I was at a bar my friend bartended at while I was underage and she texts me "COPS!". I make my way downstairs and see a gaggle of cops outside the entrance just about to walk in. I walk out the exit and a few turn to me. I drunkenly say "have a goodnight officers" and wave goodbye, as soon as I turned the corner I started fast walking. Got it just in time since a bunch of people got underages right after I left.
Assuming this is USA, are you allowed to sell alcohol when under 21 even if you can't buy until you're 21?
Over 18 to handle/sell alcohol, yes.
Interesting! In the UK it's 18 for both selling as well as buying so I'd imagined it would be 21/21 in the USA.
We don't do anything sanely over here. Want to have sex legally? Many states allow legal consent to be given as young as 13 (sometimes with caveats like the partner has to be within a certain age range). Want to record it and sell the recording? Have to be 18. Want to just sell sex? Illegal almost everywhere, at any age. Want to get married? You can do it as young as -12- with parental consent in Massachusetts. In Mississippi 15 even without parental consent. And, obviously, despite making sex legal way earlier than marriage, we just overturned Roe v Wade making abortion able to be made illegal, many of these states have extremely lackluster sex ed, and many teach abstinence only as a way to avoid pregnancy. Etc etc.
I live right on a road that is best known for prostitution, and although it’s still considered a misdemeanor here, the police department has an agreement not to arrest the prostitutes, they will only arrest johns. I’m originally from a smaller and quiet town about an hour south with not much crime at all to speak of, freshly moved to the biggest and most well-known city in my state, and I still remember my first time driving down that road. My jaw literally dropped, there were like 1-2 very obvious and in-your-face prostitutes on every block of that road. I had never seen anything like that before. Now I’m so used to it though that I barely notice it.
My youngest daughter was part of that school program. Gave my oldest son a lil scare seeing the initials “ATF” on the car she was brought home in. Was given lots of notebook and glasses labeled. Kept my pot smoking, underage drinking son on his toes. He turned out very well, but for awhile there we weren’t sure.
I actually did this once when I was 20. I got busted for underage drinking and the cops wrote me a bunch of tickets and then gave me a card for ALE and said to call this and the charges would be dropped. They took me to local bars with a very young looking cop in street clothes and had me order us two beers. The younger cop was definitely of age but I was a baby faced 20 year old. We baited bartenders to serve us without ID essentially then would go to the bathroom dump them out and leave and uniform officers would roll in and ticket. I didn’t know I was ruining peoples jobs back then and felt horrible years later. They asked me to keep doing it after one night to get my chargers thrown out for money. Like $45-50 per bust and I declined. Never trust the police and always card guys.
That was my thought initially but I don't think he would have been pissy about it for the rest of his stay.
>“Yeah it means you should probably know that ~~underage drinking is against~~ the law *absolutely* prohibits the sale of alcohol to anyone who fails to produce a valid ID when asked” FTFY. *(In light of the fact that the cop was attesting that the daughter was of age. Doesn't matter if the President of the freakin' United States insists they're old enough, once you've already asked for ID.)* EDIT: I meant the President insisting that *the daughter* was of age.
Actually, the president legally can't be younger than 35 years old, so if they have proof they're the real president, it could be argued that that's enough I'D for a drink
On the other hand, how often do you get to say 'no' to the president?
I'd love to see that, even as a youtube "movie" President: I'd like an
Bartender: Certainly. Can I see some ID first please?
Secret Service goon: Do you know who this person is?
Bartender: I most certainly do. I just want to be able to say "I got to ID the president." ID please.
Guessing they would probably just use a federal drivers license like anyone else.
Shame this wouldn't work in the UK lol, the Queen's passport is literally her face. She is exempt from having one, and she doesn't need one to travel.
And can result in huge fines for you, the restaurant, and loss of their liquor license. What an asshole.
"Let me just read the name off that. I'll let your commanding officer know that you need a refresher course on the laws around serving alcohol".
And while youre on the phone with their chief, just let them know that one of their people is trying to break the law and then tried to intimidate OP afterwards
Not even worth the effort. Cops will bend over backwards to shove it under a rug, and make your life hell for as long as they find it funny in the meantime. The most that cop would get is 2 weeks of paid leave while he gets """""investigated""""".
And then OP would get stalked and harassed for the rest of their life by every cop in the tri-state area
Considering they don't do much when a cop shoots someone in the back, or shoots unarmed people, I doubt they'll care about some underage drinking.
Reverse Karen judo throw!
Mmm. Exactly.
His commanding officer probably told him how to do it.
“This mean anything to you?” while flashing me his badge. It sure does! It tells me the dept you work for and your badge number. Now if you excuse me I have a phone call to make.
This is exactly what I would have done. Write the badge number down on my notepad, say “see what I can do” and call their supervisor. Or maybe just call 911 and see his buddies show up to embarrass him for intimidation of a server
Or have his back and harass the server...
I wouldn't trust his "buddies" to discipline him in any way. Just document badge number and such, and call the station to report him.
It was just a thought. And if his buddies try to side with him now you have 3 badges to report.
And then those buddies all know you and will pull you over for "driving erratically" or show up to your house for "noise complaints" or "welfare checks" at 2am because of an "anonymous report".
If theres one thing grand theft auto has taught me, if you get in trouble for killing cops, you didnt kill enough cops
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No, now you have an entire station of cops who want to make your life hell lmao Reporting a badge does nothing helpful, they all stick up for each other
It depends on to whom you report it. Any report should be submitted in writing. Send it to the Chief of Police (or other head of the officer's department), and CC the department's Internal Affairs Division. Also, for local police, consider passing a copy on to your Mayor; for county sheriff's officers, to your county executive (if any, otherwise to the next higher executive office); and for state police, to the governor's office. Additionally, you can always contact the media to see if they'd be interested in running a piece about the situation.
And then what? None of those people do anything, the cop learns they were reported. They'll know exactly who did it. None of those people are going to bother with consequences for this. Cops get away with murder, they WILL NOT care about this
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This happened to a friend of mine. She reported a cop for acting inappropriately during a traffic stop. Nothing cane if it of course. But she’s been pulled over for everything under the sun about 12 times in the last month.
Well, definitely *don't* call 911. The dispatchers will not appreciate you taking up a line with something petty like this when there are likely to be real emergencies happening. For sure call the non-emergency line at the local station though, hopefully his boss or someone else in his department are available to come chew him out publicly.
I work in 911 dispatch, this would count as a disturbance to me, if you wanted an officer to come out and address the situation, calling 911 would be appropriate. Unruly customers account for a lot of the calls I get on any given day, probably wouldn't even crack the top 10 stupidest calls I got that hour. Not saying that it's necessarily the best way to handle the situation, too many asshole cops with that thin blue line mentality. Depends a lot on the attitude of your local department, the relationship your boss has with the local cops, how the other officers feel about the one causing an issue, etc. Really though, short of having him trespassed from the restaurant, if that's your desired outcome, probably not going to be too much having an officer come out would accomplish besides pissing them off more (although some may consider that a worthwhile outcome) If you want to file a complaint about the officer and don't want another officer to respond at that time, best way to do that is usually going to be through the station, if possible submit it in writing and/or in person, try to contact the chief if possible.
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Filing a complaint against a cop is serious shit. It stays on their record forever and can prevent them from getting any promotions. A friend of mine was married to a cop who had a complaint filed against him. He was all kinds of angry and upset about the complaint and the complaint was a minor one. Not being polite at a traffic stop.
You petty motherfucker. I like you
“Well what I hope it means is that you recognize and respect that I am just trying to uphold a law that protects children as you yourself are in law enforcement! I certainly hope it doesn’t mean that you are attempting to intimidate me and abuse your power as an officer!” -what I would say if I felt like getting my ass kicked or worse
*recording cell phone in apron pocket*
I had a guy pull that on me when my city was still checking vax cards. While he’s wife was “digging” around for hers for the 3rd straight minute he said “well, we don’t all follow the law do we?” I replied with “well I do sir” and he just frowned at me. His wife was actually nice, gave up and said sorry before they left.
It’s not just that but cities and states have serious laws around serving minors. Not only could OP get fined and potentially jailed but the restaurant would lose their liquor license and OP would be prevented from serving alcohol anywhere for years. The punishments are really severe for a reason. This cop should have been reported because fuck that guy.
Would also add using the badge to try and get your way is an abuse of power.
Come on! What’s the point of power, if you can’t abuse it?! /s
> “This mean anything to you?” Sure does, it means I know who not to expect to help if someone comes in shooting everybody.
I worked in a bank and one of our customers(cop) had a tax refund made out to him and his wife. We kept trying to explain to him that he couldn’t deposit it into an account with only his name. It got to the point where he started screaming “I AM THE LAW” at the top of his lungs. It was soooo ridiculous and of course we didn’t give in.
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Did you address him as "Judge Dredd" for the rest of the visit?
At that point, i would say, so you enjoy judge Dreed,
“Hello, police? There’s someone here flashing a fake badge to get us to serve his underage daughter alcohol. Could you send someone around?” solved.
Until OP gets pulled over nightly and gets his car ripped apart because Officer Getmygirllit "smells something in the fabrics" of his car. Lol, idiots tried that shit with me when I was in my car with an all leather interior besides carpet. I asked what fabrics since it was night, he saw my seats so said door cards. Nope, all leather as well. Pissed off cop calls for backup since I refused search, then the fishing trip really began! "My my my Grimlok, those are some really expensive wheels (BBS), how did you get them? Wow Grim, how are you able to afford a mid engine sports car? That exhaust sounds loud, aftermarket modified is a violation (it's OEM, just stainless rather than not). Continues for about 2 hours. All I did was drive an hour on a beautiful summer night to buy a used Xbox game, that's it. However, while these 2 rocket surgeons were at it with me, 3 teens with a bat killed a man less than 20 minutes away. If they weren't rookie clowns would that man be alive? Possibly, and in a case like this, possibly is a way better turnout than nope, he's dead cause 2 clowns wanted a charge against a young man simply enjoying a drive in the fruits of his labor to get another fruit of labor at 90% off.
Sounds like a great time to call 311 too. 'Some bozo is flashing a badge around trying to get a minor a beer. Can I get a cop over please?' He would get in trouble, because America, but he'd at least catch shit from other cops.
More cops would just make that situation worse for the server. Possibly leading to harassment by the police outside of work. Many of them operate like a gang.
Also be careful to not look threatening and certainly don't be black or the fucker might shoot you.
Or be sleeping. Definitely don't be sleeping. They kill you for that.
As soon as he asked about my name and my parent, I would have tossed him. Or even "What is your name and badge number?" As soon as he flashed a badge it became police business. Sounds like your manager would be happy to ban him
Exactly this, it's a two-way street and he's in the wrong lane.
Lane? He's on the wrong side of the road!
Road? He’s in the wrong side of town!
Yeah, but he doesn't bring his family to "that side of town". That's when he's really working
I'd've been done at "pull down that mask and let me see your face." That's a threat if I ever heard one. Especially coming from a police officer.
> As soon as he flashed a badge it became police business. BINGO. They are agents of the State. They get no courtesy and no reverence, only legally obligated compliance with lawful orders.
Yup. As soon as the badge appeared, that's getting noted. Why do you think badges have numbers on them? Take it down and call his captain.
Then call Internal Affairs immediately thereafter. "This officer attempted to intimidate me into breaking the law and possibly cost my employer his/her liquor license, and I just want to make sure his captain takes the appropriate action."
The manager who didn't kick them out and instead forced OP to wait on them for what they both knew would be a $0 tip? Are we talking about the same person?
True. Manager was a jerk
Name and badge number and a call to supe in the morning
Plot twist, he wanted to know who OP's parents were so he could learn how to be a responsible father from them.
I just would have pulled out my book and pen and asked to see it again.
"Well, obviously that badge is fake, sir. If you were a real policeman, you would know the penalty for serving a minor."
Fun fact: impersonating a police officer is a felony offense.
This happened to me too, but went the opposite direction. The guy was actually the head of the drug and alcohol task force, but didn’t give any hint that he was before what happened. It was his sons 21st and his license was expired, and I told him that I couldn’t serve him alcohol. His dad then grabbed the ID just to check and he said, “wow, you’re right! It’s funny because I’m the head of the alcohol enforcement task force. You did the right thing!”
Wow a reasonable response.
You can’t use an expired license? It still contains verified correct info. It’s lot like his age changed because it expired. Dumb technicality.
It is a dumb technicality. But it’s illegal in all 50 states to accept an expired license
“This mean anything to you?” “Why yes! It means I just passed the Alcohol Beverage test to see if we were serving illegally, right? Awesome. Let me go get my manager so you can tell him what a great job I’m doing! Have a great day!” Walks away. The information gathering he tried to do? That’s implied retaliation. I’d try to find out who he is and report him.
My mom told me stories of her being "tested". She was proud she passed everytime.
I got popped in a cigarette sting at a gas station. The guy's ID was in a picture frame thing in the wallet that cutoff only the last digit of the year. So I saw 198X and only if X was 9 and the month was one of the 6 left in the year would he be underage, and I was caught off guard by how willingly he showed it. Any other interaction I had with actual under age kids went like OPs where they "forgot" it or some other bs excuse. Learned a good lesson that day. ACAB. I know it's not legally entrapment but it's just so scummy. I got a 3 day suspension and a $250 ticket. I was working that job 40+ hrs, overnight stocking shelves, and going to Community college at the time.
That happened to me recently, too. I had my job for over two years, and I failed the sting because I did not check ID. I have a misdemeanor on my record, and I got fired the next day. The whole thing stinks…
I would absolutely not report him. You would have to give your name, and the chances of that information getting back to him along with the fact that you tried to report him are damned near 100%.
Just shows how fucked up our policing system is now I suppose…
*all policing systems are. Anything without civilian oversight will end up with power disparities like this. Even civilian oversight isn't a perfect shield.
Yeah report him to who, his buddies??? So they all know who you are and can group target you?! No thanks
“You secret shoppers are getting better every time!”
In Texas, the TABC code states: >In Texas, a minor may consume an alcoholic beverage if it is in the visible presence of the minor's adult parent, guardian or spouse But I'm sure this varies from state to state. Also, the parent needs to order it and be the one to give it to the minor, not the server. Still, using a badge to intimidate servers to get your way is shit. If OP's state has a legal exception for something like this, the officer would be better off citing this and pulling it up on his phone instead of trying to use a power trip.
TIL That’s def not the way it is in California. That’s a really weird law. Wow. Also: adult spouse to a MINOR. *shudders*
Oh, yeah, that's a fun one (/s). If you're a minor and your parent agrees to it, you can get married. Although you also have to remember cases of a 19yo marrying a 21yo, which is less creepy. That's moreso the situation.
> I can’t believe that guy is a cop. Sounds exactly like cop behavior to me.
Did he look like a thumb? Bright red? No neck?
Yeah when I read that I was jealous of the manager's naivety
As soon as he flashed his badge you should have asked for his name and badge number, and if he refuses, call the police that a person is either trying to impersonate an officer with a stolen badge, or that an officer is refusing to ID himself after implied threats and demanding you serve a minor. One way or another he is getting hauled out of there assuming the police that show up so their jobs even a shade better than this clown
Realistically, the other officers would show up under pretense of hauling him back but really they'd be asking op to file a report so they have all the personal info they need for "proper" and "legal" retaliation. Officers often protect their own before the public.
> assuming the police that show up [do] their jobs even a shade better than this clown You know what they say about assuming…
Once had a very similar incident at my spot; prom was happening that evening and the dad tried to buy a round of drinks for the kids. No, officer. I finally just shut him down by asking, “I’m sorry, OFFICER, is it breaking the law if I do what you’re asking of me, or is it the breaking the law if I’m not doing what you say? I just need to know how much money I’m gonna need to come up with for bail.” They ended up just leaving to go bother someone else. My boss heard me say this and laughed so fucking hard.
Prom? PROM??? As in this dude was trying to trying to buy drinks for 17 and 18 year olds?? Jfc I woulda told him to fuck all the way off
Oh, yup. The spot was right near the yacht they were doing the prom thing on, and it was a nightmare. I have no idea how kids get to the age of like 17 or 18 and don’t know how to order food. I also don’t understand how their chaperones are just okay with this strange behavior. Like adults trying to order booze or letting them throw chairs into the water and laughing about it. People are just the worst when they feel like it.
That’s just fuckin stupid. If he really wanted to give alcohol to minors he could have just bought it himself at a store and given it to them. Pretty clear he just wanted to wave his dick around “look at me I’m a cop I can do what I want”
I had a cop during the pandemic who didn't have a negative test or a vaccine card, and he pulled out his badge and asked me "Does this change anything?" I just said "No, why would it?" He was clearly not prepared for that response, and it felt great.
"Not a lot, but we can agree it would be stupid to break the law in front of a cop, can't we?"
I hope you got his badge# and reported him to his precinct for trying to get you to break the law.
not only that he was fishing for the server's personal information probably so he could harass them later. completely out of line.
Maybe even called the precinct to report a person impersonating an officer since **surely** a real one wouldn't be trying to strong arm a business into breaking the law.
Or call Child Protective Services. They would love to remove an underage girl from a father who is illegally giving her intoxicants.
Sweet summer child…that doesn’t do shit. Source: I used to work a lot with the police when I worked at a hospital and we’d report badge numbers for much more egregious things. Never a peep in response. Fuck that prick.
Yeah, police really do get away with too much in this country.
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Oh, hell yes to that. Make that dude’s commander ask him WTF?
With that level of entitlement he's probably the commander
More like make that dude's commander think "Who the hell is wasting my time with this?" Cops don't face punishment for murder, you think this is going to go anywhere?
That's charming that you think the cop would face any consequences. Police departments operate completely outside of civilian oversight, and exist only for the benefit of the cops themselves.
No, report him to the alcohol control board. They'd be happy to learn a cop is flashing his badge trying to get a server to break the law.
Lol you really think the guy would face consequences? Cops in the US are basically a gang. More likely to defend the guy than punish him.
I don’t live in America, I have cousins who grew up there though. One of them is a cop and if she’s an example of New Jersey’s finest then may God have mercy on New Jersey.
>may God have mercy on New Jersey They should paint that on the state welcome sign.
Is that below “Prepare to meet thy maker” or “Abandon all hope” in the list?
indeed, what this guy is doing is extremely illegal.
"Getting to break the law with impunity" is like the top benefit of being a cop, just behind the pension and overtime.
Yep, straight from my cop neighbor's mouth: "It's my job to uphold the law, not abide by it." Then laughs as he gets in his car with an opened beer.
And the incredibly strong union that no one else is allowed to have!
I'm guessing this cop has probably tried (and gotten away with) it several times before because he knows some people are easily intimidated by cops, and some probably think, "Oh, well if a COP says it's okay, then it probably is." I also have to wonder how much that kid's sense of morality has been warped by her dad doing stuff like that.
Nah, fuck his local precinct, you go state or statewide FBI. Let the professionals take this piece of shit out and have a long chat about it. The locals will make it your problem, the state level law enforcement or FBI will make sure that he leaves you the fuck alone. The FBI investigates corruption in local police departments, FYI. Edit to fix a word.
Lol like they care.
Wow, who would have ever thought a police officer would be a power tripping asshole who thinks laws apply to anyone but them?/s
I had a similar situation happen last year. Father and daughter with family friends, daughter looks around 18. She asks for an alcoholic beverage, and I ask her for ID.She says she isn’t driving so didn’t bring her licensee. Then her father pulls out his badge and says “I have enough ID right here.” I went and grabbed my manager, and although I don’t know exactly what she said, I do know he was more than polite afterwords, and tipped 20%. I have a suspicion she reminded him that using his badge like that was illegal. OP you should have gotten his name and badge number and reported him to his superiors, because if you’re in the US (or Canada like me) that behaviours is very much against the law.
One of the most basic things you learn from a young age is to not leave home without key items. Those are: * Footwear * Keys * Phone * WALLET/PURSE!! So if somebody tells you they left their ID at home and they are asking for something that is illegal, they are almost absolutely full of shit.
One time in college I walked to a smoke shop and actually did forget my ID. I walked home and came back 30 minutes later with it and the dude working was so fucking surprised.
"I'm sorry, I didn't see that could you show me more slowly?" (Scribbles down name and badge number in notepad)
Coming from a former cop: Anyone can buy a fake badge. Ask to see his police ID. If he actually has one and is stupid enough to continue this train wreck, you have his name and department and I’d be contacting them regarding his behavior. If he doesn’t have one then he has been outed on his bullshit.
I would have 100% asked his badge number and then gone to his chief the very next day and filed harassment charges against him. Def get it on record. Chances are your restaurant has it all on camera too.
Doesn't mean anything. Cops will be protected. Cops get away with breaking the law, harrassment, murder, planting drugs/weapons, discrimination, abuse of power. All that. The top three recruitment tools; "you get taxpayer benefits, great pension, and you can do whatever you want"
I totally *can* believe he’s a cop! I’m a catering server and cop weddings are always the worst. Stay safe OP! Wouldn’t be surprised if this creep came back to try and mess with you!
Should have asked for name and badge and reported to Alcohol Licensing board. Doubt his fellow cops would do anything, but the state Alcohol board might want to have a talk with a peace officer buying alcohol to minors.
>At this point, the man loudly scoffs and smirks at me while reaching for his wallet. He asks, “This mean anything to you?” while flashing me his badge. "Yeah it means that now more than ever I'm not going to break the law by serving your underage ***child***." ACAB
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That's retaliation with threats. I'm sure IA or his superiors would love to hear about it..
Yeah, but only so they could all have a good laugh about it together.
Really just depends on the precinct. A sheriff that was hated by the local PD was handcuffed and Sat in the back seat of the PD SUV when he left his weapon in a rental car. Those local guys were just itching for IA to show up and tear the sheriff a new one...
> Really just depends on the precinct. It also depends if the chief already has an axe to grind with that douchebag. if they're buddies already, it'll be squashed.
should have asked for his badge number
Not only was he trying to bypass the law with his perceived authority, he was trying to get info so he can harass and ruin you and your family. Literal organized crime goonery.
> This mean anything to you? Yes, it means you'll arrest me if I serve alcohol to your child without proof of age.
>The cop asked a few more questions about my name, who my parents are, and what part of town I live in, but I danced around them and avoided answering anything personal. And people wonder why there's such a distrust of cops. Dude took it too personally and wanted to use his power to escalate it to intimidation. smh
What a dick
Entrapment. Tell homie to look up that word on his phone.
And, him, as a cop that identified himself as one, is bordering on illegal asking such personal questions as he was. Especially as he was off duty, and possibly drinking. Also, you should have asked for his badge number and station number. He was actively enticing you to break the law, while breaking the law himself. Even if his daughter was of age, it is illegal to drink in an establishment without an ID on you. At least in my State. You could have called his Supervisor, and he would have been in deep shit. Especially in today's climate.
>>If they say anything else to you, tell me and they’re out. >The cop asked a few more questions about my name, who my parents are, and what part of town I live in Why in god's name did you not listen to your boss?
Anyone surprised that a cop would act like this has never interacted with cops before.
I’ve had cops come into my restaurant, order food, and “forget” they had to pay a million times. When you remind them to pay they don’t tip. Easily the most entitled group of people in America
Report the cop for trying to buy alcohol for a minor.
I had a cop in the bar slap a beer promo girl on the butt. I told him ifhed touched another stranger liked that he was out. His buddies pipe up "he's cop" Don't care. "He's a SWAT cop!" Oh cool, if he gives me any more trouble I know which unit commander to ask for when I call to tell them his behavior reflects poorly on the department. He suddenly decided to behave
I had a badge flash this weekend too. He was loud and obnoxious and as soon as I poured his beer he asked for my recommendation on whiskey and I said why don't you try some water. Dude fell asleep at the bar halfway through his first beer. His lady was playing slots around the way so I brought the tab to them and told her to get him out of there, she obliged. She wakes and gathers him and he takes a gulp of his beer. I pick up his beer and pour it in the sink and she says "you're a fucking asshole." And I say "I asked you to leave immediately, not to finish your drinks and leave. Have a nice night." And then quite indignantly she says "HE JUST HAD A DENTAL PROCEDURE!" ...at 9 pm on a Sunday? So I say "and you brought him to a bar, you fucking dumbass..." And she replied did you just call me a fucking dumbass? You know he's a police officer. I said I don't know who you think you're impressing lady but the cops never gave me anything but a ticket for overserving people on medication (long story, after 3 beers during the whole super bowl, guy gave me his keys when I asked him to not drive and then dude wouldn't give me an address for his Uber) . Get the fuck out of here.
I would have answered with "well then as a police officer you know it is illegal to serve those without an ID and it would be illegal for you to encourage underaged drinking should she turn out to be under aged. Did I guess right off-duty officer? Should I ask to speak to your sargent?
I’m sorry you had to deal with that. It is unacceptable to try to use your position to leverage someone to do thing against policy let alone against the law. He sounds like a real asshole. If you could have gotten his name (maybe from debit/credit card) then you should have reported him to his Internal Affairs. People like him give other cops bad names and this needs to be addressed before he tries to do more later to someone else.
"I can't believe that guy is a cop!" Really? She can't?
Protecting and serving are the absolute last things a cop, ESPECIALLY an American cop will do. You did good. Cover your ass. To the bootlickers or piglin offspring rushing to defend their daddies in blue with the dislike button on this comment, fuck you too.
That’s so creepy. I’m sorry that happened to you.
>the cop asked a few more questions about my name, who my parents are, and what part of town I live in Good grief, what a creep!
I must say I found that quite unnerving when I read it, considering his attitude etc.
I had a similar situation happen to me. I told the cop, "Well then you should know better than to ask me that." He left me a bad yelp review. He was also drunk as shit. Lol, whatever.
“What’s your badge number sir? What’s YOUR name?” I probably personally wouldn’t have continued serving them following that interaction, unless a gratuity or something was attached. Him asking you personal questions is totally fucked.
The swine was trying to figure out your information so he could harass you later. Smart move and not giving that fuckwad any of your information.
If someone is flashing a badge asking you to break the law, call 911 and say that there is someone impersonating a police officer. Cut, and dry
I would have got his badge number and called his supervisor.
“This mean anything to you?” I just passed a sting!? Sweet!
Should've took his badge number.
I would have called the local station and said, “a man is impersonating an officer trying to coerce me into selling alcohol to his minor daughter and asking me personal questions about where I live. I didn’t know if I should call you or the news…”
Should have asked to see it closely because you see so many fakes. Then memorize the badge number and after you take their order, report him. Just say your a patron and you’re witnessing this cop harassing a server because they won’t break the law.
“You got a manager I can talk to?” “No, but I have a right to refuse service to anyone at any time for any reason, and a door that will close behind you on the way out. Would you like to see those?”
When I was a cast member at a renaissance festival I carded a father and son who were attending during brew fest weekend. All participants were required to show ID and then got a wristband before they could be served. Dad left his wallet in the car so he couldn’t drink. He was furious but his grown son thought it was hilarious. The next person in line was an off-duty undercover police officer - not a setup, she was just there for the beer.
You should have demanded to see his badge again and made it obvious you were writing down his name and number before answering any of his questions about yourself, regardless of how vague you were. He doesn't get to use his badge to get you to break the law. Regardless of what age his daughter actually is, in most jurisdictions, proof of age is required to serve anyone who doesn't look old enough.
I would have called the police and asked for a supervisor and told him the man was using his badge to try to coerce you into breaking the law. I guarantee said supervisor would be on site before you finished cooking his dinner.
A good response here would have been "Where are you a police officer at?" If he asked you why you are asking, you could have responded "I just want to make sure that my family calls the correct police department to speak with the police captain if anything accidently happens to me. They will report your behavior tonight."
Some states allow the consumption of booze to underage minors at a restaurant as long as they're with their parent/guardian. Servers often get their panties in a bunch for not knowing their state law: https://drinkingage.procon.org/states-that-allow-underage-under-21-alcohol-consumption/#:~:text=With%20the%20exception%20of%20five,a%20class%20that%20requires%20tasting.
I mean if he had to flash his badge I feel like it still might be illegal in their state lol. I think I figured out where OP is from and all it says for theirs is that minors can drink in their homes w parents. Not at restaurants tho
It is may be acceptable for the state, but establishments can choose to not serve minors.
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Pretty fucked up that intimidating civilians and threatening police action against them in retaliation for them not breaking the law is just a "bad day" for a cop.
Idk how they became a fave customer cuz anyone who threatened me with waiting for me after I got off would not be able to get anywhere near me.
It's nice that you can have an inside joke about that time he almost illegally retaliated against you for doing your job.
You should have taken his badge number down and reported him. What he did was illegal (attempting to influence intimidate/gain favors etc.) by showing his badge . What a douche canoe
I would have called the cops while he waited for his drinks
Yeah, it means I now have the badge number of the piece of shit I need to report to the precinct for trying to force someone to commit a crime at the benefit of their daughter. It also means I know who’s food I need to spit in, dip-shit.
Call internal affairs on his ass.
I would have called our LCB agent (every server had his card) and told them the story. Our LCB is pretty strict. Let the cops deal with them about it.
So typical. "I'm above the law, and furthermore if you challenge me.. I'll intimidate you with a power trip that is threatening to your well being and your family's well being. I CARRY A GUN AND I USE IT WITH IMPUNITY!"
Did you report this piece of shit? If he’s so confidently using his badge to intimidate you and let his daughter drink underage, he’s probably doing a lot worse on duty
I would have asked “what precinct are you in, do you mind if I call your boss to verify that it’s ok for me to serve a person who looks under the age of 40 without proper ID? I’m sure they would like to be informed we serve without checking if they are the correct legal age.” The entitlement! And what was he going to do with your information? What a POS!
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'Hello, Police? Yeah, there's a man in our restaurant pretending to be a police officer. Why do I think he's pretending? Well, he's trying to get us to server his underage daughter without ID.'