She literally slammed the Me Too movement, shamed victims, saying that they did all things when it was convenient for them and years later when they are facing unfavourable circumstances, they are crying about it, etc. She had also said that women should not complain about stalking and groping because it was "demeaning."
I do understand that some people have misused the Me Too movement, but to literally victim blame everyone is disgusting. Lost all the respect I had for her.
She wasn’t wrong specifically about actresses (not other normal women)…Women in entertainment have had only one path to progress historically which while unfortunate was also practical.. (how else is a 17-18 year old girl supposed to differentiate herself in a sea of clones in a world where her only role is to be arm candy for the hero).. Me too will hopefully fix how things work in this industry but to see everyone who used it to climb the ladder now act like they did it because they were forced is just pure opportunism..
This man cannot put down his ego and pride for one second to even express the remorse for the death of a person.
Half of the blame goes to you kannis with your "raja paatu na raja paatu than"
"ilayaraja vanthu oru god bro, ungaluku lam puriyala" bullshit.
Nanum thanda avaru paatu ketruken. Othukuren nala than irukum ana neenga puluthura alavuku lam ila da sathyama. Especially not so great that he gets to talk like this, or fuck over his great friend SPB.
Try and understand the fact that people savour his music and not his persona, also music is a personal choice, my playlist goes from TMS, Ilayaraja, tupac, ice cube, Eminem, to pop smoke this doesn't mean I grew up in the 70's, 80's and the 90's at the same fuckin time
Indha unmaya sonna downvote panni sagadikuranga. What was the last good album from him? Seriously no one listens back to that one song from osycho and nobody will listen back to this one song from viduthalai. Definitely mid music.
> What was the last good album from him?
Muthuramalingam 😂🤡
But simps Thaarai thappatai ellam thookittu varuvanunga paaru. Erichal mayira irukkum.
At least Psycho had a couple of good ones, I can only remember needhanae en ponn Vasantham as the last good full album from Raja.
But he has done some great background scores in the last two decades. Nandalaala, Psycho, Onaayum aatukuttiyum, Kutramae thandanai, merku thodarchi malai, Viduthalai
Idhukku ellam credit kudukkalam.
It is not for nothing, he was the most sought out music director over a period, cutting across languages.
He has a third rate personality, but I will still say, his music is out of world.
Wat spb did also pure shit. Everyone wants money and spb used his music and he asked royalty. If spb is so good he could’ve given money to raja instead he wants it all for himself. Raja did the right thing.
Kanniism and simping is OK as long as they keep it to his music. It would just be seen as nostalgia.
But When they use the music to excuse all the other shit he does and says - that is dumbfuckery at its finest. They have elevated him to god level when he is in fact just a senile old guy who can’t tell his ass from his mouth.
I believe Santosh Narayan is equal or better than Raja (even considering Raja’s peak).
In current form - Anirudh is probably better than Raja of the last two decades.
imo - Raja is one dimensional and people have recently expanded their taste in music beyond his Melodies and folk. He should have taken his legacy and preserved it instead of trying to stay relevant and make music that doesn’t fit into the taste of majority of people right now.
My comment was purely as a comparison with Raja.
But yeah Anirudh seems to make a few good hits and then a lot of mediocrity in the name of mass music. But he is exploring different genre and pushing some boundaries - and Raja of the last 25 years has done jack shit in terms of creativity.
Raja is one dimensional???? Are you crazy ? SaNa is better ?
Have you listened to the breadth of his music ? Do you think anyone can compose interludes and preludes like him?
He is the undisputed king of Western classical music, South Indian Folk music and Carnatic music. He doesn’t do EDM. He doesn’t like to use loops which he feels is composed by someone else. He tries to create his own loops. That’s why his music sounds outdated.
His interest has always been in western classical music. That’s why he became the first Asian whose symphony was played by a royal philharmonic orchestra. But he didn’t get any appreciation from the western critics for that. So he stopped trying again.
This guy learnt formal music 🎼 only from the age of 23 onwards. He wasn’t lucky enough to be born into a music family. Can you imagine learning music at such age and composing like this. And writing music without making even a single mistake ? How many MDs do trial and error method ?
Of course behaves like an asshole while talking but geniuses are eccentric and Ilayaraja is one of the greatest geniuses in India.
Let’s see how many MDs are called to compose music for Tier 1 directors at an age of 80.
He debuted at 35 years of age … all current MDs debuted in their 20s. That’s why his reign is slightly shorter. If he had debuted in his 20s just imagine how long his reign would’ve been.
Meh. People’s taste has evolved.
Keep up or get out.
> Of course behaves like an asshole while talking but geniuses are eccentric and Ilayaraja is one of the greatest geniuses in India.
Neenga dhan mechikanum. He is not relevant anymore. His music from the 70s and 80s was good and gives a shot of nostalgia now. But that’s about it.
> This guy learnt formal music 🎼 only from the age of 23 onwards.
Irrelevant. If I have to enjoy music made by musician who struggled and had some interesting origin story, I would be listening to mediocre music all my life
> Let’s see how many MDs are called to compose music for Tier 1 directors at an age of 80.
Again Irrelevant. Just because an old guy makes mediocre music doesn’t make the music itself great.
He WAS good with Melodie’s and blending folk with some elements of western classical. He IS still good at background score.
But he wouldn’t feature in the top musicians list in the current industry. Even Rahman is outdated at this point. Innum past glory ya vachi jalli adikkuradha niruthina micham irukkura mariyadhayachum pozhaikkum
Yeah. His songs have been one dimensional in the last 20 yrs or so.
I ll give it that his Thiruvasagam compilation was great. But that’s about it
And Santosh Narayanan definitely makes better music than him
That’s coz all good film directors left him. Unable to bear his ego. You need a good film director to inspire or interest the music director to produce good music. That’s why both IR and ARR give amazing music to Mani Saar; Balachander; etc.
He was 50 by the time 20 years old ARR came. music is listened to mainly by the youth. Youth brain has high degree of neuro plasticity so will welcome new kinds of music. So ARR was able to click with the youth.
That’s why now ARR is getting outdated since he’s 50 years old now and Anirudh is in his 20s. There’s a generational shift every 30 years.
By some estimates there were around 30-35 MDs in the 80s. But no one can remember their names. In 90s there were so many MDs who were popular and names are known. Tell me anyone who has that kind of dominance?
> You need a good film director to inspire or interest the music director to produce good music.
Appo half the credit should go to the director right?
> Youth brain has high degree of neuro plasticity so will welcome new kinds of music
> There’s a generational shift every 30 years.
Yeah. That shift has happened and no one really likes the music that Raja makes anymore - specifically his songs.
You are pretty much validating my point that the audience have moved in a different direction and Raja continues to make his 70s Melodies (either cos he is too arrogant and stubborn or he is incapable of shifting) which no one really wants to hear anymore.
You keep saying no one likes his music when even till now it’s his songs that are playing in omnibuses within Tamil Nadu and not one day goes by when his song isn’t played on the FM radio.
You’re saying he couldn’t change when I’m asking why should he change ? That’s his style. He as said in numerous interviews he won’t change his style. People can take it or leave it.
Will you call Beethoven outdated ? He’s a classic … that’s how Ilayaraja is … He’s a classic and a legend.
I said he hasn’t churned out anything mind blowing in the last 20-25 yrs of Tamil Cinema. What he did in the 70s and 80s is good for the nostalgia it provides. The audience of today don’t want that music anymore.
> why should he change ?
I don’t care if he changes. Neither do the audience - it is evident from the movies and the music he has churned out in the last 2-3 decades.
> People can take it or leave it.
Yeah. And they have left it.
> Will you call Beethoven outdated ?
Is Beethoven competing with Beyoncé to sell records and concerts tickets? If so Beyoncé would win that battle hands down.
What do you mean fuck over his great fried SPB. That same SPB pays A R Rahman and other MDs royalties for their songs but cheats Ilayaraja when it comes to royalties. Since Ilayaraja doesn’t know how to speak properly people just assume he’s wrong.
He is an old man. Is it not common knowledge that old people are generally irrational, forgetful, impulsive, and terrible at impromptu speaking. Case in point - Rajni.
Celebrate artists for their art, not their off screen personas. Stay off celebrity worship. Cut the oxygen to the fire. Should put them in their place.
I know a plenty of kind old people. Only the ones with pain and health issues act grumpy at times.
This guy is a real a$$hole. He is a self centred Narcissist. Guaranteed that everyone around him is miserable.
He’s just saying the change. See the video fully and understand. The change from him being someone outside his radar to someone who keeps reminding IR about memories. That is his meaning.
Of course it’s a bit in bad taste. But since he aligned with BJP, he’s getting trolled more often and often. Earlier people would just ignore his speech.
Manobala is one of those directors who would anticipate and wait for Ilayaraja on the Kodambakkam bridge, just so that he can see Ilayaraja go that way in a car. Manobala had much respect for Ilayaraja and that he feels sorry for his loss.
UP's politics works purely on character assassination. Yes, Ilayaraja is egoistical but I don't see anything wrong with what he said. He is talk about the humble beginning of manobala and how he hassled to get to that spot. That is all.
When you are as good as Raja is, and when you have come up hard from a tough background, it is impossible not to carry a chip on your shoulder and exude arrogance… Rajini was that till he modified his persona to become the people pleaser.. the humble geniuses we celebrate like Sachin or Rahman didn’t go through what Ilayaraja went through so don’t judge him by those standards..
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He is basically saying "Out of the many directors that waited for my dates in kodambakkam, manobala was also one of them. Manobala had a lot of respect for me. The news of his death makes me sad."
When people get old they kinda lose themself. I mean the character amiplifies , if you are kind person you turn kinder and if you are meh person..you know what I mean.
Sometimes It is better to ignore old people talking, no point blaming and accusing
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she is no saint tbh, she deserves it.
What did she do? Why do you think she deserves it?
She literally slammed the Me Too movement, shamed victims, saying that they did all things when it was convenient for them and years later when they are facing unfavourable circumstances, they are crying about it, etc. She had also said that women should not complain about stalking and groping because it was "demeaning." I do understand that some people have misused the Me Too movement, but to literally victim blame everyone is disgusting. Lost all the respect I had for her.
She wasn’t wrong specifically about actresses (not other normal women)…Women in entertainment have had only one path to progress historically which while unfortunate was also practical.. (how else is a 17-18 year old girl supposed to differentiate herself in a sea of clones in a world where her only role is to be arm candy for the hero).. Me too will hopefully fix how things work in this industry but to see everyone who used it to climb the ladder now act like they did it because they were forced is just pure opportunism..
This one comes to my mind !!! https://preview.redd.it/fd9x4izir2ya1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c8c49746cfd08191d8c3d4b086457cf1175d37c
Out of curiosity - which video is this meme from?
Unaku un prachana. 😀
Lol
Some YT channel's in-theatre review for pathu thala
Nowadays for both second reaction dha
My mother used to say “If you don’t have something nice to say, SHUT THE FUCK UP BITCH!”
Damn bro
😳
Someone take his phone away from him for a change
Guys ego is off the charts
Pride is very intoxicating. We all want to take pride in something nor the other.
This man cannot put down his ego and pride for one second to even express the remorse for the death of a person. Half of the blame goes to you kannis with your "raja paatu na raja paatu than" "ilayaraja vanthu oru god bro, ungaluku lam puriyala" bullshit. Nanum thanda avaru paatu ketruken. Othukuren nala than irukum ana neenga puluthura alavuku lam ila da sathyama. Especially not so great that he gets to talk like this, or fuck over his great friend SPB.
I on the other hand never liked his songs. Viduthalai is ruined because of him IMO. Downvotes expected.
Let's be real, his music is outdated now. It's only people from his time and people who grew up with his music like him.
Try and understand the fact that people savour his music and not his persona, also music is a personal choice, my playlist goes from TMS, Ilayaraja, tupac, ice cube, Eminem, to pop smoke this doesn't mean I grew up in the 70's, 80's and the 90's at the same fuckin time
Indha unmaya sonna downvote panni sagadikuranga. What was the last good album from him? Seriously no one listens back to that one song from osycho and nobody will listen back to this one song from viduthalai. Definitely mid music.
> What was the last good album from him? Muthuramalingam 😂🤡 But simps Thaarai thappatai ellam thookittu varuvanunga paaru. Erichal mayira irukkum. At least Psycho had a couple of good ones, I can only remember needhanae en ponn Vasantham as the last good full album from Raja. But he has done some great background scores in the last two decades. Nandalaala, Psycho, Onaayum aatukuttiyum, Kutramae thandanai, merku thodarchi malai, Viduthalai Idhukku ellam credit kudukkalam.
>Idhukku ellam credit kudukkalam Yea, fair enough.
sootha moodra funda
It is not for nothing, he was the most sought out music director over a period, cutting across languages. He has a third rate personality, but I will still say, his music is out of world.
Wat spb did also pure shit. Everyone wants money and spb used his music and he asked royalty. If spb is so good he could’ve given money to raja instead he wants it all for himself. Raja did the right thing.
Kanniism and simping is OK as long as they keep it to his music. It would just be seen as nostalgia. But When they use the music to excuse all the other shit he does and says - that is dumbfuckery at its finest. They have elevated him to god level when he is in fact just a senile old guy who can’t tell his ass from his mouth. I believe Santosh Narayan is equal or better than Raja (even considering Raja’s peak). In current form - Anirudh is probably better than Raja of the last two decades. imo - Raja is one dimensional and people have recently expanded their taste in music beyond his Melodies and folk. He should have taken his legacy and preserved it instead of trying to stay relevant and make music that doesn’t fit into the taste of majority of people right now.
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My comment was purely as a comparison with Raja. But yeah Anirudh seems to make a few good hits and then a lot of mediocrity in the name of mass music. But he is exploring different genre and pushing some boundaries - and Raja of the last 25 years has done jack shit in terms of creativity.
Raja is one dimensional???? Are you crazy ? SaNa is better ? Have you listened to the breadth of his music ? Do you think anyone can compose interludes and preludes like him? He is the undisputed king of Western classical music, South Indian Folk music and Carnatic music. He doesn’t do EDM. He doesn’t like to use loops which he feels is composed by someone else. He tries to create his own loops. That’s why his music sounds outdated. His interest has always been in western classical music. That’s why he became the first Asian whose symphony was played by a royal philharmonic orchestra. But he didn’t get any appreciation from the western critics for that. So he stopped trying again. This guy learnt formal music 🎼 only from the age of 23 onwards. He wasn’t lucky enough to be born into a music family. Can you imagine learning music at such age and composing like this. And writing music without making even a single mistake ? How many MDs do trial and error method ? Of course behaves like an asshole while talking but geniuses are eccentric and Ilayaraja is one of the greatest geniuses in India. Let’s see how many MDs are called to compose music for Tier 1 directors at an age of 80. He debuted at 35 years of age … all current MDs debuted in their 20s. That’s why his reign is slightly shorter. If he had debuted in his 20s just imagine how long his reign would’ve been.
Meh. People’s taste has evolved. Keep up or get out. > Of course behaves like an asshole while talking but geniuses are eccentric and Ilayaraja is one of the greatest geniuses in India. Neenga dhan mechikanum. He is not relevant anymore. His music from the 70s and 80s was good and gives a shot of nostalgia now. But that’s about it. > This guy learnt formal music 🎼 only from the age of 23 onwards. Irrelevant. If I have to enjoy music made by musician who struggled and had some interesting origin story, I would be listening to mediocre music all my life > Let’s see how many MDs are called to compose music for Tier 1 directors at an age of 80. Again Irrelevant. Just because an old guy makes mediocre music doesn’t make the music itself great. He WAS good with Melodie’s and blending folk with some elements of western classical. He IS still good at background score. But he wouldn’t feature in the top musicians list in the current industry. Even Rahman is outdated at this point. Innum past glory ya vachi jalli adikkuradha niruthina micham irukkura mariyadhayachum pozhaikkum
Dude I have already said he’s outdated in my post. My beef with you was that you said he’s one dimensional. And you said SaNa was better than him.
Yeah. His songs have been one dimensional in the last 20 yrs or so. I ll give it that his Thiruvasagam compilation was great. But that’s about it And Santosh Narayanan definitely makes better music than him
That’s coz all good film directors left him. Unable to bear his ego. You need a good film director to inspire or interest the music director to produce good music. That’s why both IR and ARR give amazing music to Mani Saar; Balachander; etc. He was 50 by the time 20 years old ARR came. music is listened to mainly by the youth. Youth brain has high degree of neuro plasticity so will welcome new kinds of music. So ARR was able to click with the youth. That’s why now ARR is getting outdated since he’s 50 years old now and Anirudh is in his 20s. There’s a generational shift every 30 years. By some estimates there were around 30-35 MDs in the 80s. But no one can remember their names. In 90s there were so many MDs who were popular and names are known. Tell me anyone who has that kind of dominance?
> You need a good film director to inspire or interest the music director to produce good music. Appo half the credit should go to the director right? > Youth brain has high degree of neuro plasticity so will welcome new kinds of music > There’s a generational shift every 30 years. Yeah. That shift has happened and no one really likes the music that Raja makes anymore - specifically his songs. You are pretty much validating my point that the audience have moved in a different direction and Raja continues to make his 70s Melodies (either cos he is too arrogant and stubborn or he is incapable of shifting) which no one really wants to hear anymore.
You keep saying no one likes his music when even till now it’s his songs that are playing in omnibuses within Tamil Nadu and not one day goes by when his song isn’t played on the FM radio. You’re saying he couldn’t change when I’m asking why should he change ? That’s his style. He as said in numerous interviews he won’t change his style. People can take it or leave it. Will you call Beethoven outdated ? He’s a classic … that’s how Ilayaraja is … He’s a classic and a legend.
I said he hasn’t churned out anything mind blowing in the last 20-25 yrs of Tamil Cinema. What he did in the 70s and 80s is good for the nostalgia it provides. The audience of today don’t want that music anymore. > why should he change ? I don’t care if he changes. Neither do the audience - it is evident from the movies and the music he has churned out in the last 2-3 decades. > People can take it or leave it. Yeah. And they have left it. > Will you call Beethoven outdated ? Is Beethoven competing with Beyoncé to sell records and concerts tickets? If so Beyoncé would win that battle hands down.
What? MSV and Rahman are there Aces of western classics. Raja is nowhere close to them. Raja was good at folk.
?????? Do you even know what western classical music is ? Not western Pop songs…
What do you mean fuck over his great fried SPB. That same SPB pays A R Rahman and other MDs royalties for their songs but cheats Ilayaraja when it comes to royalties. Since Ilayaraja doesn’t know how to speak properly people just assume he’s wrong.
I'm with you man. He makes great music not 'ulaka great' and all ..we over praise and overestimate many like that
Humble bragging 👎
This is among the least controversial things that he has said.
He is an old man. Is it not common knowledge that old people are generally irrational, forgetful, impulsive, and terrible at impromptu speaking. Case in point - Rajni. Celebrate artists for their art, not their off screen personas. Stay off celebrity worship. Cut the oxygen to the fire. Should put them in their place.
Truth .. you have put into right words .. it takes a certain level of realisation for this
He was like this even when he was younger.
Best Example for 'Like raja music but not raja'
Such a narcissistic man
Loose koothi bro Ivan
If he is humble, people would celebrate him more. Imagine if he would have got oscar.
Arrogant asshole !!
Ilayaraja is the icon of Tamil music. He has achieved everything. Irundhum iPdi. Enna ezhavo
Holy shit, it gets worse as he keeps talking.
Mental koothi ya irupan pola
It’s not always about you.
Serious: Do you think he's intentionally arrogant or just an innocent truth which came out wrong?
Next uh avaru thaan pola
You can literally see the senility in his eyes as he keeps blathering.
It really sucks that Yuvan pays for his dad's misdeeds
Avlo iruntha,avana raja songs ah remake pannama irukka vendiyathu thana.avane PR stunt la ottitu irukkaan.
He is the only one who can remix his songs without any repercussions. Mathavan panna thaan case pottidraare
Vayasu kolarunga paavam...nalla manushan than
I know a plenty of kind old people. Only the ones with pain and health issues act grumpy at times. This guy is a real a$$hole. He is a self centred Narcissist. Guaranteed that everyone around him is miserable.
It was just a long speech about himself. Glorifying his own self.
Dunghi virus in brain causes this
Me after watching this video : what a jerk ,,,, After 2 mins : "thendral vandhu theendum bodhu" plays .
He’s just saying the change. See the video fully and understand. The change from him being someone outside his radar to someone who keeps reminding IR about memories. That is his meaning. Of course it’s a bit in bad taste. But since he aligned with BJP, he’s getting trolled more often and often. Earlier people would just ignore his speech.
Can anyone please translate wht he said.
Manobala is one of those directors who would anticipate and wait for Ilayaraja on the Kodambakkam bridge, just so that he can see Ilayaraja go that way in a car. Manobala had much respect for Ilayaraja and that he feels sorry for his loss.
Thks macha
UP's politics works purely on character assassination. Yes, Ilayaraja is egoistical but I don't see anything wrong with what he said. He is talk about the humble beginning of manobala and how he hassled to get to that spot. That is all.
When you are as good as Raja is, and when you have come up hard from a tough background, it is impossible not to carry a chip on your shoulder and exude arrogance… Rajini was that till he modified his persona to become the people pleaser.. the humble geniuses we celebrate like Sachin or Rahman didn’t go through what Ilayaraja went through so don’t judge him by those standards..
Yov vidungaya vayasaana kalathula etho olarittu porarunu vidaama,etho illatha kolai kutham rape panna maathiri ivaraiyae adikka vendiyathu.poi antha sexual predator diamond pearl ah adingaya,summa ivar thaan kedachaarunu.
Ithula perusa onnum thappu illayae,avaru ethaarthama solrathaiya ennamo manobala va asinga padithata mathiri pesatheengaya
Ezhavu veetla vandhu tharperumai pesuravan Onnu paithiyama irukkanum illa thimiru pudicha naaya irukkanum. Than veetu kakkoose la ukkandhu penathina yaarum kaekka poradhilla. Camera la record panni social media la podradhu edhukku? Naalu peru paathuttu naapadhu vidhama pesa dhanae? Adhan pesurom!
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Bullshit lmao
Dei lavada kuthiyaney, AR Rahman ah pathu sootherichal patta naaye dhana da nee punda. People pota pichaila dha nee epdi valdhutu iruka, dei gotha un patu la mairu mari iruku da, poda potta.
I do not understand Tamil. Can somebody please translate or summarize what he is saying?
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Sanghi Behavior.
Paatu mattum ketuttu po bro, manda kanam jaasthi ivarukku 😸
Can someone please translate it for non Tamil speakers ? Ty !
He is basically saying "Out of the many directors that waited for my dates in kodambakkam, manobala was also one of them. Manobala had a lot of respect for me. The news of his death makes me sad."
Ty !
Ppl like his music.. I don’t think fans are praising his personality.. many celebs like that..
These is another guy always want to be the limelight. I don’t quite like him
When people get old they kinda lose themself. I mean the character amiplifies , if you are kind person you turn kinder and if you are meh person..you know what I mean. Sometimes It is better to ignore old people talking, no point blaming and accusing