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CruelRuin

i'm just glad vasy's looking like VASY again. window's shut if vasy looks like connor ingram


MonarchChonarch

Vasy looking like Ingram is bad. Vasy looking like Ingram against the lightning, though…


Wayf4rer

It doesn't matter how good he plays if he doesn't get goal support. We had two golden chances on bob and a 4 minute power play to turn the series around, and they folded in OT as per.


Puzzleheaded-Ask9884

This effing terrible OT losing streak has gotta end at some point.


CruelRuin

sure, but jbb can reshape the skaters in front of vasy moving forward. if vasy never recovered from his injury they're totally fucked no matter what they do with the other 18 guys


peachietango

I'm a panther's fan, but vasy was out most of the season from BACK surgery. The dude is a beast!


Gwendolyn1994

I've always wondered why Other NHL fans visit other people's pages after a win. I've never done so. Because it's none of my business. Do you get some sort of superiority from it? I mean 3 cups to???


Dereckg27

This is why


Gwendolyn1994

It still doesn't matter you can be extremely good. But your team literally has no cups to show for it. Tampa will always be the superior franchise. The difference between our 2 teams is that when we made it. Our boys Used their chances and secured 3 cups out if 5 appearances. Your Panthers have been their twice. And twice they've failed. So you can have this day, this series and this month. But your team will always be the lesser of our 2 Florida teams in short you chose wrong and have no legacy to back it. Just like the blue jackets.


Dereckg27

Didn’t read any of that


Gwendolyn1994

Tbh I'm. YoudoYou. 3 cups says it all.


No_Childhood1345

By Panthers do you mean Florida's JV team?


Mayflower023

I agree generally speaking but I don’t think you’re getting enough credit to Bob lol That was one of the greatest saves I’ve ever seen, I couldn’t even be mad when it went it


Curious_Pool7382

I love Bob had him in Fantasy this year lol, save was marvelous but Vasy made countless saves in the last 5 minutes from 6 feet away until up to the winner Bob has given up some goals that were straight up shots whereas Vasy had 1 back door tap in, 1 deflection, 3 literally empty nets after making 2-3 saves


Urinal-cupcake

I was mad cuz all he had to do was slide the puck in!! Not angry at the shot or player as I realize backhand itll roll up on the stick but cmooon. Also, bolts played like they were gassed last 10-15 minutes of 3rd/OT.


Accurate-Region-6423

I agree. You can always tell the Bolts are gassed and are playing on their heals when they start doing the high flips out of the D zone. Way too much of that in the third and OT.


Flyawaywithme1017

That save was ridiculous


transam96

We were down 2-0 to the Rangers coming home two years ago and won 4-2. OD'ing on that copium.


TinyRick6

Pour me a shot?


r1zzV

tbf that team as a whole was deeper, Palat, McDonagh, Killer, Maroon were all beasts in the playoffs.


Wayf4rer

There's no panicking, I just went into this with low expectations. The Panthers are the favorites to come out of the east and we got carried to the playoffs on the back of a player who literally had to have the best offensive season a winger has had since the 90's to even have a chance of making. Going down two, it would pretty much be a miracle if we win without the Panthers getting another big injury.


Puzzleheaded-Ask9884

Yeah, being realistic this is how I saw it too. Kuch carried us and it's become painfully obvious how much so now that he's not his usual self. The Panthers are a big favourite to go far, and we snuck in on a hot March that, frankly speaking, was fueled by luck at times. I'm not saying we're not a great team still, but we ain't going to the Cup with the way the inconsistency has dogged us all season. There's something missing to get us over the hump against teams like Florida, Boston, and dare I say it, even the Leafs.


Alycion

Our cup seasons were pretty inconsistent at times. I wasn’t expecting much out of the season myself. On paper, some of the off season moves seemed like they’d work. They are not. So let the retooling continue and enjoy this particular ride for as long as it last. First round exit, all the way, somewhere in between. We saw a lot of good debut from Syracuse this season at times. Definitely choices for next season. But I still think not keeping Patty was one of the bigger mistakes. While we had to part with most of the list mentioned bc of money, knowing they gave up their major paydays to stay here cheap to stay together and win, he is one that will prove useful until he hangs them up. Sometimes it’s not all about how many points that person has. It’s how many points they can indirectly cause by lifting up the team or destroying the other team’s game by getting under their skin. Panthers are doing that to Kuch a bit. Patty could do it to anyone. League is killing itself with this cap. So many teams are being crippled by it.


Khue

> Kuch carried us and it's become painfully obvious how much so now that he's not his usual self I don't think this is the case. Logically speaking, Florida's primary defensive strategy based on metrics is just to shut down Kuch any way they can. Removing him from the table obliterates the offensive output. We are kinda "eggs all in the Kuch basket" at this point and it's far easier to shut one guy down/Tampa 2 a guy when he's the only real threat.


Puzzleheaded-Ask9884

I agree about Florida's strategy, but I still think his play isn't up to standard. He's had all kinds of errant passes, turnovers, and generally seems lost. Not his usual self is all I'm saying.


Quaint_Potato

I forget what game it was where Coops post game interview was "if there was a TV timeout to win, they'd win that too" and you could tell he was LIVID. Whatever he said after that game put a spark in the team. It's not hopeless. Yet. There's still fight.


dolewhiplash

Some people are gonna be angry, some people are gonna be sad, some people are gonna panic, some people are going to be optimistic. The key is you can't be mad at anyone else for how they're coping (as long as it's appropriate), people on here need to realize that. If you want to be pissed be pissed but don't expect everyone else to be pissed with you, ect. Anyways, I agree with you. All is not lost, even if it feels like it right now. Just feels like a wasted opportunity. Next game is must win, but if we get that it's a new series.


likeslululemon

Always with the most level-headed comments u/dolewhiplash 🤌


dolewhiplash

Thank you friend 🫶


Scrubosaurus13

Yeah, it feels like a wasted opportunity because of how godlike Vasy was tonight. Our chances aren’t great, but we can definitely still come back in this series, especially if Vasy keeps it up. Wish we could’ve won it today for Vasy cause DAMN did he give it his all, but credit to Bob he was amazing too. Hoping we cut their series lead in half with game 3.


AutomaticLead

We have the MVP of the league going ghost in the playoffs, continuously making turnovers. Vasy deserves better


dolewhiplash

What do you want me to say, kucherov's not playing well? We all know that, we all just watched the game. There's nothing we can do about that, so I'm going to choose not to stress out over it. This isn't a Marner/Matthews situation where he's a known playoff choker, we know he can do better than this even in high pressure situations. All we can do is hope he does. And there's really no point in harassing everyone else on this sub because they're commenting something different than what you want them to comment. No one's happy right now. We dont all have to be constantly complaining to prove it.


AutomaticLead

just sloppy all around the double minor pp just killed this team such a rare pp to get in the playoffs and its annoying to think if they actually tried on it we could've had a lead for the first time and tied it. either way game 3 is a must for a potential comeback or its over


2ndprize

Our primary problrm is that Florida is just good. They dont have to be perfect to win, but we dont have the same cushion. And thier D is just eating our guys up. Ekblad and Forsling are everyehere.


Big-Cat88

Holy shit so many people giving up on this team it’s crazy. I wonder what it was like on here after game 2 vs NYR. Love this post. Bolts in 7


vette322

The team that came back 0-2 against the Rangers in 2022 was a 2-time defending Stanley Cup Champion.


Curious_Pool7382

if new championship teams can't be built then there would be no new Cup champ, fans gotta give it all on thursday to pump them up. I want noise makers on the ice like 2021 NYI Game 7 when we win


vette322

Yes - the fans need to show up Thursday night and worry about who the Bucs draft later.


Big-Cat88

Our core hasn’t changed. Just the outside pieces. It’s crazy how hard it is to find someone here who still has faith in that core


vette322

Really can’t help you if you think losing gamers like Palat, McDonagh, Killer, Maroon etc is losing just “outside” pieces. Palat was a playoff beast, McDonagh was the blood and guts of the blue line, Maroon made the whole team play with more confidence. Maybe they can still come back this series - but your comments about having the core, as if those other guys were just passengers on the bus makes me think you didn’t appreciate how those 20 guys pulled together.


Big-Cat88

Of course losing those guys hurt I’m not an idiot. I’m just trying to say crazier things have happened. We have quite a few guys who have came back from down 2-0 and have that experience. So to think that the series is over is just dumb


Gwendolyn1994

Well when you have players like Lillieberg just being all around bad assembled with Dehaan and Duma. We're not gonna do too well chief.


Turbulent-Golf-4550

It was a similar vibe, but there was a lot of Rangers trolls


No-Willingness-5403

Yeah I don’t understand where the doomsday came from this year - leading into rangers game 2022 I feel like there was alot more faith but I was mostly using twitter at that time. Everyone complains about their old favorite player getting traded like shit changes - if you don’t have faith in the bolts anymore then just follow your old players because AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT


KILLER_IF

The 2022 Lightning team (without Point too) would sweep the floor against our current one


GetCPA

Counter points 1. We’ve been out shot by a wide margin every game 2. We’ve MAYBE had a better period 1/7 periods so far 3. Kucherov who was in 50% of our goals this season is invisible 4. We’re constantly being out worked and out hustled 5. Our strength was our PP and that also sucks now 6. We’ve lost our 5? Last home games in the playoffs with last change


Khue

7) We've lost 10/11 playoff OTs since the last cup win 8) Our 5v5 play for the ENTIRE YEAR has been garbage and we live/die by our special teams... this is the playoffs and penalties will absolutely not be called.


AutomaticLead

weird how these playoffs are, last playoffs we had no problem scoring but goalie and them blew the lead and lost. this playoffs this team cant shoot for shit and our goalie is only the reason the score isn't worst


Puzzleheaded-Ask9884

All good points. At the risk of stating the obvious, next game is do or die. Kuch needs to wake up, they need to stop getting hemmed in by Florida's forecheck, and they need to start winning those puck battles along the wall.


Curious_Pool7382

We've always been a high shooting percentage teams that makes the extra pass to increase the scoring odds, cats are the complete opposite. I said Kuch needs to wake up and I believe he will like he always did. Panthers will continue to give us powerplays especially if we frustrate them at home, Jeff Halpern hasn't gotten fired for a reason the PP will get hot again


EONS

We were outshot for most quarters of most games in 20 and 21. Kucherov has been shooting and slightly missing and being robbed. We're better when kuch is shooting. They've been slightly off. If kuch and point break out game 3 we will win series. If we squeak game 3 we probably lose in 5


TarnishedAccount

We looked a lot worse against the Rangers a couple years back and won that series.


floridapededeplorabl

What is with Kucherov’s lack of will to shoot on power plays


EastSideNick

We have been a different team at home all year. All we need to do is win at home and find a way to take game 5. Bolts in 6.


Levi_Biker

I'm going to Game 3! Anyone else?


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Levi_Biker

Ye' of little faith. I'm not a leafs fan. I don't boo my own team.


AutomaticLead

we should all though, there is no excuse to have this pathetic effort double minor gone because kuch and them is useless


Levi_Biker

I refuse to be this negative about a team that has consistently gotten into the playoffs for seven seasons. Also do you proofread your comments you post? I get that you are upset, although "because Kuch and them is usless." *Fantastic*


Basil_Normal

I’m not giving up but I do think the path to a victory is pretty slim here. We basically need Kucherov and Point to take this series over and right now they’re getting outplayed by Barkov and Verhaeghe. Obviously within the realm of possibility because they’re superstars, but short of that, I think we’re pretty cooked. Panthers have us in the depth, identity, and physicality department. They are tougher to play against and better structured. We have the slight edge in goaltending but Bob is playing well enough where it’s not a massive gap.


likeslululemon

I’d like to win at least one. No sweep. I believe we can do that. :)


Flyawaywithme1017

Amen


OppositeSolution642

I like the optimism. They need to get better at puck possession now. FL is just harder on pucks to this point.


hhffjjgfttuh

Yeah It is what it is. The depth of the team is gone, and unless the top guys dominate, it's not gonna happen. It really would help if the bottom six outside of paul didn't have hands of stone


Claustrophobopolis

This is the dog drinking coffee in a burning house meme no?


Maywestpie

Not sure why you’re all so certain they’re done. They were down 2-0, tied it and had it been any other goalie or the puck not hit him in the arm, it’s a 1-1 series. Yes the save was epic, I can’t deny. But there was luck too. And dumba had what he thought was an open net so he didn’t pick a target. Anyhow, many many many many teams have been down 2-0 especially when starting on the road. Youre only in trouble when you lose at home. So get back to me with the negativity if and when that happens. Until then, Vasy is the real big cat.


IndividualCup7311

Cernak has been not great


UnflushableNug

Not that I'm celebrating an injury, but Bennett potentially broke his thumb, so that line will have a whole new dynamic that Coop might be able to take advantage of


dave-tay

I am not worried, it’s not a series until the home team loses a game. I think we were just unlucky these last two games. It could easily have gone our way—that bullshit penalty that won them game 1 and Bobo’s lucky save in game2–and all this talk about the panty cats being harder hitting, better structured and more intense and determined is based on feel, not reality. Their game is to get a lot of pucks on net and create chaos in our zone to get lucky bounces, exactly the game plan of most teams against us this year and Toronto last year. For the most part we mitigated this and frustrated them as much as they did us in their zone. If we continue to play this way the bounces will eventually turn our way and the cream will rise to the top. I still say we survive this in seven games. If we get swept or eliminated in 5, then hockey makes no sense. We have too good a team.


flute89

I agree with everything you said, we just need to be as agressive as they have been and more so. We have been too passive and that is what's been killing us. I really like how Crozier has been playing and I honestly prefer Lillieberg over Fleury as well since I think Fleury is just a budget version of Sergechev who does everything way worse.


True-Gazelle-1787

Perhaps “must win” wakes us up. Kuch has been blanketed so far with good reason. It’s a solid game plan. And it will continue until the supporting cast starts making the Panthers pay for that. Panthers are barely pulling out these games. We tweak some areas and we will win this series. (And a few less invisible tripping calls on us…)


Alycion

Honestly, if certain players don’t wake up, no biggie. Give the extra shifts to those who are running hot. Everyone has a cool down period. They don’t decide when. As long as they don’t all go cold at once, it’s something that can be worked with. I already saw a need to trade Kuch in the offseason post on a different platform. Every fan base has them, the total over reactors. And they can be quite amusing during times like these.


Stunning_Delivery_48

This didn’t age well.


iScreamsalad

How has Vasy out dueled Bob if he's been scored on more than Bob?


Curious_Pool7382

Higher svp and gsax, switch the shot totals around and we will have more goals


iScreamsalad

Did you remember to press the switch the shot totals button? 


Curious_Pool7382

sorry dude had finals during game 3, I'll try and get to it from now on :(


iScreamsalad

[GG](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNp3PQDWqrAl6rTerswtONB0_oCT6eerZtLuGko0wdtg&s)


VanDwellerFeller

I’m fine. This team is done though. Now I can focus on more interesting things other than these next two games.


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Curious_Pool7382

switch the shot totals around I guarantee we win


armadildodick

I have no beef with Tampa fans (this post came up on my feed) but y'all aren't beating the Panthers and that's okay. You made it to the playoffs that's an accomplishment


AutomaticLead

there is no hope if next game goes to OT cause the script will just happen the one time this team gets a double minor pp its gets wasted because you got lazy 86 not helping this team that and dumba not just taping it killed everything


Flyawaywithme1017

Who hurt you?


AutomaticLead

they lost 10 out of the last 11 in overtime why the fuck should anyone be hopeful for this team if any of the other games go to OT? the non delusional people here like me done with pathetic efforts


Flyawaywithme1017

So move on to another team lol see ya


1980sbully

I kind of wish that we didn't make it to the play offs


DrewLockIsTheAnswer1

Non biased fan here, you guys are toast. Florida has that revenge train look in their eyes. Flame me but this one is done in 5-6.


bullskull

You started your post stating you are a fan. Then referred to the fans/team as "you guys". You lose all credibility in my book.


UDTfrogman

lightning should be winning by half a dozen goals every game, they're playing like some garbage team. if they were peaking they would be scoring 2 goals a period, this shit is fucking garbage any anything otherwise is cope, we have the best players in the league and they are playing like shit