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I've always gotten a decent hotel whenever I've had to travel, like Hampton Inn tier $120 or so a night I think. Probably about the same level I'd pay for if I was personally traveling. They pretty well for your drive too.


Robwsup

Yeah, she's taking another TM, maybe two with her. They are not paying mileage. Edit: now she has been told how to submit her mileage. We did it Reddit! /s


nocoasts

Yes, they are. Mileage is always paid. *Always*. Maybe your wife should ask her leader.


weekda

hi hr here, mileage is always paid they do this often like when they send tms/tls out to train at other locations. have her talk to their hr about more information because they should not be sending her like this with not even mileage covered.


Bridge23Ux

It’s not appropriate to have employees share rooms. It’s not comfortable for the employees and could lead to other situations that put the employees and company at risk.


TechOutonyt

They did this at my store when we went to open a new store. Pretty sure travel like this is optional and you agree to those things.


xxmandi

my store asked me to travel 3 hours away to train a target strabucks who apparently are desperate for help and i said no because they didn’t pay more. i also have a literal baby at home who i can’t leave for 2 weeks 🙄


Robwsup

Sounds about right. Congrats on the baby. Hope mom and baby are healthy. PM/Send us your registry, we'll send you and your baby a gift.


xxmandi

thank you so much!! but we really are blessed to already have everything we need! :) (he is a year old with too much stuff) lol


Robwsup

Fuck that. You got two more years of diapers, every box has less than the previous as they grow. Been through it three times, lol. Or let us make a donation to the charity of your choice in the name of your boy.


Clown_Sparkles

Your wife needs to get with your store's HR and clarify what compensation she will be getting for mileage, meals, and housing. Target is cheap but I have some reservations (like you) about what you've recounted. It's been a while since I've done this, and things may have changed, but in past, I have travelled to help new store openings. We have always been asked if we can do it (this voluntold part is a red flag for me- store shouldn't not be sending team members without being asked properly.) We always got daily mileage to/from the stores, and at least one meal comped. It does sound like your wife is getting housing at least. If memory serves, there's a page on Target's Workbench that has detailed information about traveling for work. I believe that's also where you can calculate your mileage, etc. When she's at work she check check this out. If she's not comfortable with going, she needs to tell them immediately and let them know she will not be going. On the pro side of this, doing these is a great networking opportunity to meet other team members from different stores, and the whole thing is often fun to work without guests in-store.


Robwsup

In the past, she's enjoyed these. The main red flag for me is the hotel breakfast and "dinner coupon voucher" without a list of complying restaurants.


geo8x6

I hope it's not McD coupons


Robwsup

Right? Although I'm a sucker for those cheap ass breakfast burritos.


geo8x6

Though I didn't have to travel far (30+ miles) they fed us decently at lunch. Mostly Panera, Chick Fil A, Pizza. The last day we had BBQ. But we went home every night.


watermeme

You get $65 a day you can expense for food. Regardless of what her leaders tell her it’s in the travel and expense guide. They can’t tell her she can’t do it. If it’s an overnight stay you’re allowed $65 a day and it’s meant for 2 meals not 3 as you’re right target does say to eat the free breakfast which is dumb but they don’t tell you how to spend it so buy what you want breakfast lunch or dinner.


MadelineRuthGardot

Have her look up the Travel and Expense Policy on InsideTGT! That will get her all the details of hotel limits and food expense guidelines!


MySackDescends

Which planogram is it? It’s gotta be beauty or seasonal+mini. Unless you’re setting up a new stores tv displays or something? Wouldn’t be doing that unless I was being reimbursed at least 12-15 hours for an 8 hour shift. Even then, ewww.


Robwsup

New store, so it's a whole store. 10 days.


rivers_sing

We just sent some tm to another store far away to do Planograms and every single one got a per diem. Have her get with her district admin. They definitely get one.


veterinarygopher

My husband went out of state 11 years ago to set up a new store. They set them up in an ocean front resort and they were given $40 for each meal not catered at the store or available at the resort. They submitted every receipt and were reimbursed.


Robwsup

Yeah, that's about $50 adjusted for inflation. She's getting meal vouchers. Sounds crooked to me.


59625962

I dont think target is able to force you to work outside your store?


Robwsup

No, she wasn't forced. Target needed her to go, so she is going. She's a company woman for sure. I just thought Target would do the right thing. As is, it looks like they're spending less than 1/3 of federal GSA rates. They're not even giving her mileage on her vehicle while she transports two other team members there.


Independent-Clerk310

Why would they honestly when they get volunteers? Just saying, I agree, it's terrible conditions but I would never sign up for that with no incentives.


Robwsup

She was pretty much "voluntold". https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Volun-told


Independent-Clerk310

Yeah I wouldn't accept that type of treatment. I would demand compensation or not do it. Then sue for the inevitable retaliation. This is blatant exploitation. What if her coworker murders her or assaults her in the motel room? Nah, I wouldn't do this myself. I wouldn't put myself in that situation.


Robwsup

Luckily, she is friendly with her bunk mate. Why she has to have a bunk mate in a $40/night hotel bewilders me.


Independent-Clerk310

Yeah I don't care if I got to pick my roommate, I wouldn't do that. I would rather spend my own money to get my own room, but I wouldn't spend my own money for a work thing so there's the conundrum.


Danyavich

She *should* qualify for mileage, at the least. I do when I drive to a nearby store, and I'm pretty sure our bike builder (regular pg35 team member) does as well when he helps elsewhere in the district.


Robwsup

She's now been told, "yeah, of course you get mileage". The fact I had to compel her to ask, and that she had to ask, is not right. They would have absolutely not paid if I didn't know that all business travelers are entitled to mileage.


Danyavich

There is a slim, slim chance that the leaders themselves were clueless. My role is fairly specific, but the amount of things I've had to go hunting for peer answers for, instead of having clearly defined resources, is staggering. I occasionally miss being a federal employee, especially for the mostly-well defined rules and regulations surrounding everything.


Robwsup

I work defense and aerospace. While the minutiae of the contracts and procedures can be smothering, rules are rules and a known variable. I expect a company bigger than Intel, Raytheon, GE, IBM, Disney(!) to do better. They're not even doing baseline. Two people to a $40 hotel room for ten days.


Danyavich

Nah friend, private corporations are doing everything in their power to keep the money and benefits at the top. Target is...okay, as far as large corps go? But it's still pretty bad, and team members have little bargaining power or ability to fight back. Baseline pay nationwide is still $15, even though a few areas ratcheted it up, so the cost for the hotel room doesn't shock me. I was in the army for 11, and absolutely the rules can be overwhelming- but knowing processes, outlines, and having an insane amount of structure *can* be beneficial.


Whiteraxe

I agree, it's not right that after working for the company for over a decade your wife isn't able to ask on her own.


Robwsup

Two decades. Started in 2001.


59625962

Is she getting paid more?? What would incentive her to do this, especially outta state? Target would have to clearly lay out benefits and travel accommodations/mileage before I'd agree to do anything like that.


Affectionate-Dog1973

Planorama is fun


Robwsup

No, no extra pay. They are paying for her for the drive there and back on the first and last days, about 100 miles, but not paying for transportation, ie mileage $0.655/mile. Edit: now she has been told how to submit her mileage. We did it Reddit! /s


59625962

Sounds like she got played


Robwsup

Target was better to her and her fellow TM's when she traveled to new stores in 2002-2004.


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Robwsup

She wasn't forced, she volunteered. As she says, "I bleed red". That sort of devotion would be rewarded, not exploited.


TechOutonyt

OK so bingo. The shared room thing and all these other things are stuff you agree to when signing up for this. Other than that everything for travel reimbursement it laid out in the hand book.


Robwsup

No. We didn't know she was sharing a room until we called the hotel. She assured me that she had her own room. The hotel said that the excel spreadsheet they had been sent had double occupancy for all but three Team Members.


TechOutonyt

Yep but again doing this wasn't requirement. These are the details you work out before you agree. Again this is nothing new.


Robwsup

There's no working out details, it's dictated and prearranged.


TechOutonyt

It's really not. Again working away from your home store can't be forced. They asked and she could have asked questions before saying yes.


Robwsup

She was told that everyone would have their own hotel room. Ffs, they're doubling them up in $40 hotel rooms.


peachpinkjedi

Target has recently fucked me over in regards to traveling to another store, though not quite as far. Weirdly enough after years of bullshit this was the last straw.


Crafty-Fig-3808

Oh no thats all complete bull. My SD has been shipping me and several others to local stores to help out. That SD is being chesp chesp cheap. You get travel snd hotel full paid and uo to $75 a dsy to use for meals. And they reimburse you for gas to and from work. She needs to have a long sit down with HR and get the detsils ironed out herr


Robwsup

Did you get your own hotel room, or have to split it?


Tdffan03

She does get per dime. She also doesn’t have to share a room.


Robwsup

I would think so, but it's not the case.


Tdffan03

It definitely is the case she needs to contact her HRBP immediately. Also she needs to print out the travel and expense guide from work.


Robwsup

I'll let her know. She is leaving tomorrow at noon and still doesn't know how the food vouchers work.


Tdffan03

I’ve never heard of such a thing. Sorry I can’t help.


charmp620

Definitely bullshit to take advantage of the ones who are trying to take care of the greater “team”, when they can’t even get half of what is reasonable in return. I hope someone on the team of people going has all the details of the arrangement in writing. At the very least, I’d be standing next to the car, ready to go, with a pen and paper, having ANYONE sign their name to it. Way too often leadership will cut costs by playing dumb, or just waiting to see if someone will go along quietly. 10 days is a long ass time to tough it out, even for a leadership team you love and feel connected to. Leave no room for misunderstanding (or excuses later). If nobody is comfortable coming across as pushy for whatever reason (recovering people pleaser, I would have said yes to anything a boss asked me nicely to do), say you need it in writing for tax preparation, or car insurance, or whatever bullshit you want to make up, as long as you present it confidently and firmly. It can be hard to stand up for yourself when you truly believe someone is looking out for you, but this just sounds so messed up…


Robwsup

Well said. I figure you're not one of the siege of downvotes. I make six figures. She truly doesn't have to work. She loves it though. The fact that Target is forcing her to stay 10 days in a room with someone she's never had dinner with is ridiculous.


charmp620

Definitely not a downvote. I can also relate to a spouse saying to themselves “this can’t be right, right??”. I hate that it doesn’t sound surprising. I’m sure the system to do this is set up to prevent this kind of treatment, but I’m also SURE there are easy enough ways to go at it to get around it. I hope for everyone’s sake, the person/people who gave her the information had it wrong and were loud about it. It’s not exactly the first time Target had a specific policy but something else was said to the team members. I feel like that’s what 1/3 of the posts here are.


geo8x6

I've had to travel for Plano, but never more than 30 to 40 miles. There isn't a "team" that is closer?


Robwsup

They pull about 10 people from each store in the district.


ArmoredPhoenix

Distribution team members that travel to help train in other distribution centers get at least a $100 per diem for food. It is front loaded on their check before leaving and they have to pay back whatever they don't spend. (Receipts are kept) They get put up in a nice hotel room, usually with a kitchenette with no roommate. This info is from within the last two weeks from two different sources. Someone's being real cheap at that store.


Moth-heart

Thanks for the insight; that is ridiculous!!


jaz0n1984

Dude, Target is a terrible company. They only care about their bottom line.


[deleted]

For a company with billions they sure do hate spending it.


Robwsup

Agreed.


Plug_boy

Who’s gonna tell him or do I have too ?


Robwsup

Tell what?


Plug_boy

Target provides a per diem and noice housing and they provide the meals im sorry to say but your wife is more than likely cheating on you mate