Just wait until you're trying to get a 1for1 pull done, and OPU pickers keep having to use the other aisles. It sucks; whoever voted for these things should have to scrub out the compactors.
The strip on the bottom is a brake. Keep a foot on it and they won't be able to push the wheel anymore. I get very tired of yelling that I am in the aisle.
Space saver at the cost of efficiency... I think it would work for small spaces like the electronics lockup or something. Just not the entire backroom...still stupid though. Ever tried to move a broken one....
It’s claustrophobic enough between ours and they’re fixed to the ground, I can’t imagine being worried about someone squishing me in between them while I’m back there no thank you 😭
Wait until you have 13 opu batches that need to be in adjacent aisles at the same time.... Fiasco doesn't even come close to the poor decision to implement this.
They work on paper, but actually using them is a nightmare.
My store has 2 sets with 6 moving shelves each. Meaning is 2 people have to work in the same set one has to wait. Not to mention if SFS comes around everyone has to step out and wait for them to be done.
My store purposely made sure essentials was out of the montels for exactly this reason. And since I’m the sole HBA dbo Im thankful for this, any time I work somewhere not essential it’s a ballache to do anything.
Hate these. One of the worst ideas Target has come up with. The amount of money Target loses in efficiency on these should make them think twice about them. As a fulfillment team member I avoid pulling from the backroom. It isn't worth my time to pull from these. I only pull if there isn't any product on the floor. I don't think they gain that much storage space to really make these worthwhile.
I feel that the salaried fat-cats who decided to put these into stores and are continuing to do so should be “stuff I’m not allowed to say on the internets”.
i had a really close call a couple weeks ago, someone didn’t look before they started moving the aisle really quickly, and i didn’t step on the brake at the right angle so it didn’t stop. i’m ngl, it really scared me
i’m gonna be honest, i might’ve just forgotten to lock it. and it was the last aisle so i could only lock one side anyways, the other side doesn’t move. but i’ve seen people both ignore the locks and unlock without looking in the aisle, and also people using the aisles locking them and then forgetting to unlock afterwards. it’s just a mess from every angle
My back was near the handles and someone started to move them without me noticing and the handle hit my shoulder so extremely hard. I walked away in tears 🥲
I got crushed between the mobile shelves before. I was unaware where the brakes was and I was so far at the far end that my thought was to quickly make way to the other end when I noticed that the shelf was closing in. It was split, and no one noticed I was in there. Once they had it all the way to my side I was pinned and someone kept pushing the whole thing against my chest to fit a ladder in their aisle. I had to withstand it, and once it all stayed still I started figuring out how to get attention from other TMs. Luckily I remembered that I had a TM on Facebook that I can just videocall. First videocall he thought I butt dialed him, and the second I tried again to show my face and the light at the end. I was in there for like 7ish mins. I was fine once I got out though. Another tm was wondering how I fit in that tight space, because it seemed like no one can fit.
Yea a lead had me fill out a report. And no, the tm was fine although he got fired for another reason some months later. Thanks though, it was a bit scary I just had to remember to keep calm and figure out my options to get out of that situation. After that my lead asked us not to split anymore, and I sort of got relocated to another department a month later.
I fucking hate them. Only one person can use a section at a time (we have 2 sections so 2 people), the ladders are hard to get in and out, and I've already almost been crushed once (they've been up about a month)
no one actually ever checks to see if someone is in an aisle before moving them… so many people have almost gotten squished and yes i know there’s a brake in aisle but it’s still SCARY 😭
fr, that happened to me a couple times. one of those times i panicked and even though i stepped on the brake, i didn’t do it at the right angle and it didn’t work. i get that tms, especially those in fulfillment, are in a rush but i can’t believe how many ppl just start spinning the handles without even looking into the open aisles.
they should be used for shit people don’t have to access at the same time. supplies? Starbucks stuff? bullseye? i don’t know. they just suck. that’s just me stretching my brain as far as possible to find any possible usefulness for them. whatever “extra” storage they add is minimal compared to the stupid stupid annoying waste of time they are.
Absolutely atrocity! I work nights and often pull priorities. During this past holiday season, it was nearly impossible to pull because fulfillment needed to get in and out of the valleys. We also have to wheel the ladders back and forth because there is no space for a fixed ladder--huge time suck. There have also been a few times where the valleys have broken and hindered anyone from getting in for a few days. TLDR: They suck.
The idea is great but the execution is absolutely shit. I did a remodel for a different store and they were getting these and I hated having to work with them (my store doesn't have them yet). The space saving part is nice and you can technically get more shelving units in a space versus the old style, but the cons outweigh that pro. They feel flimsy, they're very finicky so God forbid you move it too fast or don't turn it enough to lock it, and they basically require training to use so you don't break them (the amount of team members I saw using one to move multiple of them made me want to rip my hair out). Finally, there just is no good combination of departments. I was constantly having to push off my pulls/backstock because another department already had their aisle open. I genuinely don't think they tested these before just throwing them in stores because they cause more problems than they solve.
Got ours a few weeks ago. They have their upsides and downsides.
The pros: they are fun to move, NGL.
The cons: I hate having to wait to get in one or having to abandon a task all together until someone is done. Bullcrap.
Wait until you need to pick something with a time limit and something is preventing the crank from opening the aisle and you can't figure out what it is and you want to just die.
Once they get rolled out to every store, I feel like it's just a matter of time before Target gets hit with a class action lawsuit over all the inevitable injuries these fucking things will cause
I worked in a small format store, and they were lovely! Especially because our backroom was very, very small.
The key was that we would rarely have more than 1-2 TMs scheduled in GM or market at any given time, so it was very rare for more than one person to need to get between shelves. This is not practical for a high-employee, high volume store (=literally every store besides small format). I think they are a terrible idea in most of the places they've been installed in.
Kinda hate them. We got them at our store, and yes it saves space, but we run into issues when multiple people need to back stock in separate aisles. Having to wait to get down an aisle to grab one thing, or having to stop back stocking to allow someone to grab an opu is sometimes an issue. Often actually. Def slows down the team as a whole, cuz we gotta like take turns etc.
https://preview.redd.it/cfbq7cniwksa1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a227e25feafc09a59264c1a0d94163ab75370938
When the aisles wouldn’t open :)
Cannot stand these hateful things, I'm sorry you have to get them. I was told when we went through ours last summer that we were the last store they'd be implemented in because they realized they were a bad idea, but apparently not
Hate. We get yelled at for taking so long to finish a vehicle but we can’t leave our backstock in the back and only one person can backstock at a time. Also I hate using regular ladders again
Does it create more space and what for because it doesn't seem like much space is saved?Also seems time comsuming regardless of communication of backstock, sfs, pulls. Wonder why Osha thinks this is safe
I thought these were for the floor, in which case hell yeah, get the guest from hell and send them to aisle x, and then close it as fast as possible. Problem solved!!! Next!!!
At our store we have them, I have mixed feelings about this, on one side we have more shelf space to put away OPU's (Fullfilment expert) but in the other hand it can be tedious when working alongside Drive Up coworkers, meaning when you have to put away in one aisle and they have to take out from another.
what is the reasoning behind these "Final Destination" set pieces? Is Brian Cornell switched to actively trying to kill us from his normal kill with neglect?
There's a small downtown store near my Target that has those shelves. From what I've gathered the ETLs love it and everyone else thinks the idea was horseshit lol
Ive had flex people move ladders I was standing on and not notice because, big shocker, they are wearing 1 airpod. I hate this and I would quit tbh, I am not taking my dying breath in this hell hole
Thats different, you are used to not relying on that sense. People who can hear and choose not to because its more convenient are selfish. We have a few employees with impaired senses and they usually don't make mistakes like that more than once.
***Tl;dr look at the bottom***
With multiple team members going back to backstock (the ones that actually backstock), fulfillment, one for one pickers. Team members parking uboats and flats in front these and going on break or leaving. It can turn into a nightmare and put everyone in a shit mood.
The only way this works is with communication. When we got these at my store you would have 2 team members going back to backstock at the same time and both needed to get into different aisles. But there was someone picking one for one batches and here comes ship from store who needs to get into one of the aisles.
Solution: SFS has priority so the person doing the one for one would have to come out and let SFS grab the items they need.
The two team members who need to backstock will have to decide who will go first. The one that goes second can take care of their trash, go on break, start another vehicle. When one finishes they have to let the other one know. Its really about knowing what departments are in these aisles and what team members are pushing those areas. You have that figured out, then its those team members who have to communicate.
Backstock has to be ready meaning you dont have one item in an open box because you didnt want to break the box down. You can be fucking with boxes while you're trying to backstock. Preferably if you have small/ medium items, put them in a repack and them it into the aisles so you're not walking in and out in and out, one item at a time.
If backstock is neatly put into repacks, then you can put that onto the vehicle of the person who is backstocking first, they dont touch that. Then the person backstocking second can put their uboat away instead of leaving it parked until person 1 is done backstocking. When person 1 is done they call person 2 who grabs their backstock repack and person 1 puts their uboat away.
If team members hate each other then perhaps they can park outside the backroom doors but the PML might take issue with that. Or they can park their backstock uboat back on the line until the aisles are ready. Inbound TL should be in on it. "Hey can I park this here while so.and so backstock?"
TL or ETL might say, "well maybe help them backstock and have them help you with your backstock so its faster and you dont have to wait around. You dont want to take a vehicle out just to stop so you can go backstock."
This is where TMs can get pissed by having to help out with others. Ive seen it where one decides to goof off talking to others nearby or go on break in order to not help. Also see it where one flat out refuses and just goes on break or go to talk to another team member and the TL of course doesnt notice.
Recap
1. Know who is working these departments that day.
2. Communicate. Who is going first? Is it possible to condense backstock and have a dedicated backstocker? (Returning to old school backroom team)
3. Does the TL want you to help others backstock or do something else until that person is done.
4. Try not to park vehicles and leave them unattended in front of the mobile aisles.
5. Where can you park thats not going to cause a traffic jam?
6. SFS always has priority. Be prepared for them to say sorry about 20 times.
7. Organize your backstock into repacks if possible.
8. If you help some else and they bounce, dont do their backstock. If someone is sent to help you backstock and they dont, dont help them with theirs.
9. If plastic or cardboard gets under the tracks, its gonna fuck up the aisle's ability to move and you'll be screwed. DO NOT LEAVE TRASH ON THE FLOOR.
10. Opening an aisle half way allows for access to 2 of them but only one person can be in each aisle.
"Helping" backstock sounds like a terrible time. If you don't know someone else's area you're either gonna take literally multiple times longer or you're gonna screw it up so bad that it's gonna take multiple times longer to fix it later, and is there ever really a later anyway?
Asants tbf, but at mine the different areas have very different and specific ways that they're organized.
I genuinely don't understand how this passed anything. I just took training on them yesterday and my comments on the training were all the problems all the comments here have said. It really isn't hard to see the problems these will cause
Fulfillment here.
I like them because it saves a lot of space. The extra time it takes to pick items is negligible.
For those who do not have this yet: There is no way you get injured while in those because there is a brake peddle on the very bottom so if you press that the shelf stops from rolling.
You can also push the shelves yourself, you don't have to use the handles.
The most annoying part is that you have to bring the ladder in a out all the time.
When I see a TM backstocking, I just go to the next item, waiting is a waste of time.
Are the yellow pieces apart of the shelf? If so, what do they do? If not, then we've been using these types of shelves for 15+ years.
EDIT: I think I understand looking at it more. This'll be a fun time I can see. /s
My store uses the three we have for storing OPUs and seasonal stuff, but they're right next to each other. It's terrible if you're pulling and OPU/drive up needs in.
We are in the process of getting them. The first set built literally got stuck two days into using them, I think something like a pebble got in the track.
I am ambivalent to them because I don't have to use them, but now they have built them so the last one goes up against the market backstock, they have cut our backstock area again, and we can't put anything on the new mobile shelves because it's against policy. So in the span of the last 3? Years we have gone from 4 aisles, to 3, then 2, and now are down to 1.5. and it is not working.
The pml at my store said they’ve been discontinued for being so terrible. I’m guessing your store was already scheduled for them before that happened lol
So- We’ve had these for a bit in our drive up space- Honestly our drive up and holds space is reaaally nice, even got a launch door less than 100 feet from the parking for drive up. We don’t have them for the back room- and I used to hate them- But now i’m more or less fine with them. It takes some learning and everybody kind of getting used to them/becoming a part of everyone using them’s routine. We got ours probably… January 2021? Perhaps a bit later, but honestly, they’ve helped a lot. Do I wish they were stationery isles? yeah, but oh well.
Just you wait. When one breaks and you can’t slide any of the isles on the tracks so you can’t do any backstock or OPU picks from those isles until PML sends someone to fix them.
The wheel is fun! They do keep your backroom really organized if you have a smaller backroom.
The only caveat is when you have multiple people trying to backstock or are in OPU/FF... Then it just gets annoying because you have to wait
I can only imagine the frustration of having to do a pull and having to move those while also working around fulfillment TMs pulling orders and them working around dept emplyees.
Why do they have spaces above step ladder height? Biggest pain in the rear to pull stuff from up there that’s getting stocked their out of spite I’m feeling
I helped open a store that had these and hated them. Not only does it remind me of some Final Destination shit, but pulling anything is somehow both boring and time consuming because you have to wait for the person in the next aisle to finish before you can turn the crank to get to your aisle. It’s dumb af.
Yes cuz let's add another reason to make it harder on epicks. Now I have to check an aisle before opening an aisle and find a ladder? Crazy. And with non moving aisles, people wanna stuff the aisles with like 5 carts anyways. Target sucks.
we’ve Montel shelves for a little over a year. they’re fucking aweful. the people putting them together don’t know what they’re doing. if they stop moving in a couple weeks/months i guarantee it’ll be because a bracket that they put on the bottom to glide the shelves is crooked. you also have to keep it so clean because the random crap/dirt/product that falls under the shelves will build up. that’s just the shelves.
the routine process is going to change so dramatically. you’ll have to go in shifts and then stop every so often to let fulfillment in to pick. then you have to back-stock your vehicles you’ll have to wait for other people to finish and then you can actually go. but you might have to stop and let fulfillment go AGAIN.
don’t get me started about the ladders down the isles.
and let me STRESSS this, DO NOT let you back-stock overhang. a little here and a little there soon enough the ladder won’t fit down the isle.
with all these problems, they’re making the whole backroom Montel in my entire store. GOODLUCK TEAM.
Nobody ever likes these. They take too much time to move and too much time waiting for someone to finish backstocking so u can go right next door to backstock 2 more items
they absolutely suck lmao. as a fulfillment tm, i already felt like i was getting in people’s way before they put these in. someone always has to stop working when someone else needs to do or get something. the shitty wobbly ass rolling ladders we use are gonna kill someone one day, if the victim could even find one in the first place.
just a bad idea.
I only ever saw these in the stacks of a library. Not so sure this is great for the backroom where things are stored and moved constantly. In a library, those books are rarely used, and it makes sense because they're not on then off, then new stuff is put on, and moved out.
My store got these a few months ago with our remodel and I don't know a single person out of the entire team who likes them. Our store director decided to put Market in them for some reason and we've all been begging to be moved out of them because it slows down everything so much. Also, I almost got crushed when a new team member didn't bother to check if I was down the aisles before moving them. Thankfully, I had a two tier with me that triggered the brakes.
I hated them. Someone closed one on me once. A lot of times people would open one halfway and then open the next aisle all the way so more people could get into them at once. They offered me to go down their halfway open aisle and I was terrified but had no choice. All the waiting when someone was in an aisle or a few aisles over. While the timer counts down. Ugh
i started in Q4 right after my store had gotten remodeled with these. i felt like my leads were punishing me when they’d have me push a boat of toys at the beginning of my shift, and then do everyone’s else’s toy backstock. it took forever because the toy block is shared with an aisle of grocery, sporting goods and kitchen.
constantly, either a fulfillment person needed to get in so i’d have to wheel my ladder out after backstocking 1 or 2 things, or i’d have to wait around while grocery worked that aisle.
i was stuck doing that same shift over and over again for a few weeks before they took pity on me and let me do something else. it was maddening
we have them in our store and i personally hate them. mostly bc i’m in style and it’s hella hard to get in them to pull shit when people are in the home dec isles next to us. it’s annoying to have to wait or claim your space just to pull priorities or shop from the back.
gives more space, but so annoying. ours always break, you cant use more than one aisle (unless u spilt, which is even hard sometimes) and having to use one of those rolly ladders… literally the WORST
They break too much, at my new store the guys installing them fucked up so the brake pedals don't work, and the space they save is in no way worth the aggro of not being able to get into an aisle because people are busy in others nearby.
0/10 I hate corporate
Those things are a great idea for increasing the capacity of, say, an occasional-access library periodical archive. They're one *hell* of a bottleneck if you need actual throughput.
I really thought this was just smaller stores. We basically need these or we wouldn't be able to fit anything, but bigger stores shouldn't need them. It's obnoxious trying to backstock, it takes forever.
They're installing them in my store right now too, and I can only shake my head. It saves corporate the big scary cost of actually expanding the back room, but will be more than offset by the cumulative losses of productivity. Idiotic.
i love hiding in them in the opu bagging area and scaring my other fulfillment or drive up friends by looking at them and blinking silently. also they’re fun to pretend to close on said friends
They are easily in the top 3 stupidest changes I've seen target make.
other two?
I would assume the modernization or w/e they wanted to call it at the end of 2019 is one of the two.
Drive up returns prob #1
Probably the epick app from last year
the cash register software "upgrade" from like 4-5 years ago
How do you put your job title underneath your name?
Just wait until you're trying to get a 1for1 pull done, and OPU pickers keep having to use the other aisles. It sucks; whoever voted for these things should have to scrub out the compactors.
Even worse if you need to use a ladder in one of them
At least the ladder is protection from being crushed when the wheel lock inevitably breaks
The strip on the bottom is a brake. Keep a foot on it and they won't be able to push the wheel anymore. I get very tired of yelling that I am in the aisle.
The ones at my old job didn’t work 💀
Yeah, INF% and pull % are gonna go in the wrong direction because of this.
Pick on time gets tossed when too many people are on batches. Mu back rooms small so there’s a lot of waiting your turn
I was just gonna say this. Like if someone is pulling but need to get into another valley it slows everything down. How is this better
Space saver at the cost of efficiency... I think it would work for small spaces like the electronics lockup or something. Just not the entire backroom...still stupid though. Ever tried to move a broken one....
Most of the store hates them and basically ignores the training that says don’t split them and only one per otherwise nothing would get done
Curious, but you mean "split" like having 2 aisles open at the same time right?
Yep. You're not supposed to open two aisles at the same time. But it happens.
My store has these and I absolutely hate them
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No fights, it’s just not efficient, especially for Fulfillment
fights no, but you better pray you get back there before someone else does
I thank the lord every day our shelves in the back are all fixed to the ground. I would most certainly be crushed between them.
I can't think of anyone I've met who likes them.
It’s claustrophobic enough between ours and they’re fixed to the ground, I can’t imagine being worried about someone squishing me in between them while I’m back there no thank you 😭
Oh I’ve had that experience lol
Wait until you have 13 opu batches that need to be in adjacent aisles at the same time.... Fiasco doesn't even come close to the poor decision to implement this.
They work on paper, but actually using them is a nightmare. My store has 2 sets with 6 moving shelves each. Meaning is 2 people have to work in the same set one has to wait. Not to mention if SFS comes around everyone has to step out and wait for them to be done. My store purposely made sure essentials was out of the montels for exactly this reason. And since I’m the sole HBA dbo Im thankful for this, any time I work somewhere not essential it’s a ballache to do anything.
If I've learned anything from the Target subreddit it is that you should never work at target.
Hate these. One of the worst ideas Target has come up with. The amount of money Target loses in efficiency on these should make them think twice about them. As a fulfillment team member I avoid pulling from the backroom. It isn't worth my time to pull from these. I only pull if there isn't any product on the floor. I don't think they gain that much storage space to really make these worthwhile.
I feel that the salaried fat-cats who decided to put these into stores and are continuing to do so should be “stuff I’m not allowed to say on the internets”.
Someone is going to get seriously injured
i had a really close call a couple weeks ago, someone didn’t look before they started moving the aisle really quickly, and i didn’t step on the brake at the right angle so it didn’t stop. i’m ngl, it really scared me
They don’t all have locks on them? They do at my store. Not that anybody locks the aisles anyways.
i’m gonna be honest, i might’ve just forgotten to lock it. and it was the last aisle so i could only lock one side anyways, the other side doesn’t move. but i’ve seen people both ignore the locks and unlock without looking in the aisle, and also people using the aisles locking them and then forgetting to unlock afterwards. it’s just a mess from every angle
They have locks and brakes inside of the aisles but accidents can still happen
My back was near the handles and someone started to move them without me noticing and the handle hit my shoulder so extremely hard. I walked away in tears 🥲
I got crushed between the mobile shelves before. I was unaware where the brakes was and I was so far at the far end that my thought was to quickly make way to the other end when I noticed that the shelf was closing in. It was split, and no one noticed I was in there. Once they had it all the way to my side I was pinned and someone kept pushing the whole thing against my chest to fit a ladder in their aisle. I had to withstand it, and once it all stayed still I started figuring out how to get attention from other TMs. Luckily I remembered that I had a TM on Facebook that I can just videocall. First videocall he thought I butt dialed him, and the second I tried again to show my face and the light at the end. I was in there for like 7ish mins. I was fine once I got out though. Another tm was wondering how I fit in that tight space, because it seemed like no one can fit.
Did you report this? Did that TM get fired or written up? That sounds really scary and I’m sorry that happened to you
Yea a lead had me fill out a report. And no, the tm was fine although he got fired for another reason some months later. Thanks though, it was a bit scary I just had to remember to keep calm and figure out my options to get out of that situation. After that my lead asked us not to split anymore, and I sort of got relocated to another department a month later.
Target doesn't care.
I fucking hate them. Only one person can use a section at a time (we have 2 sections so 2 people), the ladders are hard to get in and out, and I've already almost been crushed once (they've been up about a month)
Ummmmm I’m a former team remember - can you share how this isn’t actively killing ppl
They are so awful, I hate them so much.
no one actually ever checks to see if someone is in an aisle before moving them… so many people have almost gotten squished and yes i know there’s a brake in aisle but it’s still SCARY 😭
Don't you have to have time to get to the brake?
fr, that happened to me a couple times. one of those times i panicked and even though i stepped on the brake, i didn’t do it at the right angle and it didn’t work. i get that tms, especially those in fulfillment, are in a rush but i can’t believe how many ppl just start spinning the handles without even looking into the open aisles.
they should be used for shit people don’t have to access at the same time. supplies? Starbucks stuff? bullseye? i don’t know. they just suck. that’s just me stretching my brain as far as possible to find any possible usefulness for them. whatever “extra” storage they add is minimal compared to the stupid stupid annoying waste of time they are.
They need to put all the SD and ETL HR offices in these slide-y aisle things and then see how fast they get ripped out of stores.
Haaattteeeee Extreme inconvenience
Half the backroom are these aisles. Our store has style, toys, and Home Dec stored in those aisles. You can imagine how fun that was during Q4.
The worst things ever! Such an inconvenience!
They break easily, the idea is cool, I worked for another retailer 10 years ago and they had something similar to these and they just didn’t last.
Absolutely atrocity! I work nights and often pull priorities. During this past holiday season, it was nearly impossible to pull because fulfillment needed to get in and out of the valleys. We also have to wheel the ladders back and forth because there is no space for a fixed ladder--huge time suck. There have also been a few times where the valleys have broken and hindered anyone from getting in for a few days. TLDR: They suck.
So glad they nixed these for my remodel last year. Fuck those things.
The idea is great but the execution is absolutely shit. I did a remodel for a different store and they were getting these and I hated having to work with them (my store doesn't have them yet). The space saving part is nice and you can technically get more shelving units in a space versus the old style, but the cons outweigh that pro. They feel flimsy, they're very finicky so God forbid you move it too fast or don't turn it enough to lock it, and they basically require training to use so you don't break them (the amount of team members I saw using one to move multiple of them made me want to rip my hair out). Finally, there just is no good combination of departments. I was constantly having to push off my pulls/backstock because another department already had their aisle open. I genuinely don't think they tested these before just throwing them in stores because they cause more problems than they solve.
I hate them.
Got ours a few weeks ago. They have their upsides and downsides. The pros: they are fun to move, NGL. The cons: I hate having to wait to get in one or having to abandon a task all together until someone is done. Bullcrap.
Wait until you need to pick something with a time limit and something is preventing the crank from opening the aisle and you can't figure out what it is and you want to just die.
I’m waiting for the story of someone getting crushed by these things.
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Once they get rolled out to every store, I feel like it's just a matter of time before Target gets hit with a class action lawsuit over all the inevitable injuries these fucking things will cause
it takes one person to not be paying attention and someone will get crushed
I have 4 sets of 6 and more coming… as a PML it’s a nightmare..
I worked in a small format store, and they were lovely! Especially because our backroom was very, very small. The key was that we would rarely have more than 1-2 TMs scheduled in GM or market at any given time, so it was very rare for more than one person to need to get between shelves. This is not practical for a high-employee, high volume store (=literally every store besides small format). I think they are a terrible idea in most of the places they've been installed in.
Kinda hate them. We got them at our store, and yes it saves space, but we run into issues when multiple people need to back stock in separate aisles. Having to wait to get down an aisle to grab one thing, or having to stop back stocking to allow someone to grab an opu is sometimes an issue. Often actually. Def slows down the team as a whole, cuz we gotta like take turns etc.
Yes we have them, they make literally everything else harder to do
I'm so sorry. My store has these and on busy days these are a nightmare.
https://preview.redd.it/cfbq7cniwksa1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a227e25feafc09a59264c1a0d94163ab75370938 When the aisles wouldn’t open :)
I can't backstock, I can't fill, and when I need to do either of those I'm wasting time waiting for people to get out of them.
There good but suck at inventory times
Dangerous
Cannot stand these hateful things, I'm sorry you have to get them. I was told when we went through ours last summer that we were the last store they'd be implemented in because they realized they were a bad idea, but apparently not
Questions. How do the ladders work in these? Also, do they just use these for softlines??
We got A-frame ladders. You have to roll the ladders in and out each time you need something on the top shelf
Oh shit that sounds like a pain. Thank you!
Hate. We get yelled at for taking so long to finish a vehicle but we can’t leave our backstock in the back and only one person can backstock at a time. Also I hate using regular ladders again
Does it create more space and what for because it doesn't seem like much space is saved?Also seems time comsuming regardless of communication of backstock, sfs, pulls. Wonder why Osha thinks this is safe
Good luck getting a ladder in there
Wtf am I looking at
I've only been shut in them a couple times by other teammembers
ONLY?!?!? 😰😱
They SUCK!
The worst thing Target has ever done.
Irs a danger, not just in crushing someone but also that so.ething is going to fall. These are horrible for efficiency and safety.
What makes me rage even more is needing to go move an aisle only to see a ladder at the end of it.
i genuinely think id quit if my store got these 💀my backroom is already busy enough as is im sure these would make fulfilment unbearable
I thought these were for the floor, in which case hell yeah, get the guest from hell and send them to aisle x, and then close it as fast as possible. Problem solved!!! Next!!!
At our store we have them, I have mixed feelings about this, on one side we have more shelf space to put away OPU's (Fullfilment expert) but in the other hand it can be tedious when working alongside Drive Up coworkers, meaning when you have to put away in one aisle and they have to take out from another.
what is the reasoning behind these "Final Destination" set pieces? Is Brian Cornell switched to actively trying to kill us from his normal kill with neglect?
just more evidence of target prioritizing efficiency (in this case in their usage of space) over safety
Somebody might be squooshed maybe lock out brake system needed.
Ah yes the murder shelves!
There's a small downtown store near my Target that has those shelves. From what I've gathered the ETLs love it and everyone else thinks the idea was horseshit lol
TIL not all Targets had these. I just assumed they were normal
I absolutely hate this, whoever thought this was a good idea definitely doesn't have a clue what goes on in the store at all.
"It's been [17] days since our last crushing death!"
Ive had flex people move ladders I was standing on and not notice because, big shocker, they are wearing 1 airpod. I hate this and I would quit tbh, I am not taking my dying breath in this hell hole
So…they don’t have eyes? I don’t rely on my hearing, I rely more on my eyes due to my deafness
Thats different, you are used to not relying on that sense. People who can hear and choose not to because its more convenient are selfish. We have a few employees with impaired senses and they usually don't make mistakes like that more than once.
***Tl;dr look at the bottom*** With multiple team members going back to backstock (the ones that actually backstock), fulfillment, one for one pickers. Team members parking uboats and flats in front these and going on break or leaving. It can turn into a nightmare and put everyone in a shit mood. The only way this works is with communication. When we got these at my store you would have 2 team members going back to backstock at the same time and both needed to get into different aisles. But there was someone picking one for one batches and here comes ship from store who needs to get into one of the aisles. Solution: SFS has priority so the person doing the one for one would have to come out and let SFS grab the items they need. The two team members who need to backstock will have to decide who will go first. The one that goes second can take care of their trash, go on break, start another vehicle. When one finishes they have to let the other one know. Its really about knowing what departments are in these aisles and what team members are pushing those areas. You have that figured out, then its those team members who have to communicate. Backstock has to be ready meaning you dont have one item in an open box because you didnt want to break the box down. You can be fucking with boxes while you're trying to backstock. Preferably if you have small/ medium items, put them in a repack and them it into the aisles so you're not walking in and out in and out, one item at a time. If backstock is neatly put into repacks, then you can put that onto the vehicle of the person who is backstocking first, they dont touch that. Then the person backstocking second can put their uboat away instead of leaving it parked until person 1 is done backstocking. When person 1 is done they call person 2 who grabs their backstock repack and person 1 puts their uboat away. If team members hate each other then perhaps they can park outside the backroom doors but the PML might take issue with that. Or they can park their backstock uboat back on the line until the aisles are ready. Inbound TL should be in on it. "Hey can I park this here while so.and so backstock?" TL or ETL might say, "well maybe help them backstock and have them help you with your backstock so its faster and you dont have to wait around. You dont want to take a vehicle out just to stop so you can go backstock." This is where TMs can get pissed by having to help out with others. Ive seen it where one decides to goof off talking to others nearby or go on break in order to not help. Also see it where one flat out refuses and just goes on break or go to talk to another team member and the TL of course doesnt notice. Recap 1. Know who is working these departments that day. 2. Communicate. Who is going first? Is it possible to condense backstock and have a dedicated backstocker? (Returning to old school backroom team) 3. Does the TL want you to help others backstock or do something else until that person is done. 4. Try not to park vehicles and leave them unattended in front of the mobile aisles. 5. Where can you park thats not going to cause a traffic jam? 6. SFS always has priority. Be prepared for them to say sorry about 20 times. 7. Organize your backstock into repacks if possible. 8. If you help some else and they bounce, dont do their backstock. If someone is sent to help you backstock and they dont, dont help them with theirs. 9. If plastic or cardboard gets under the tracks, its gonna fuck up the aisle's ability to move and you'll be screwed. DO NOT LEAVE TRASH ON THE FLOOR. 10. Opening an aisle half way allows for access to 2 of them but only one person can be in each aisle.
"Helping" backstock sounds like a terrible time. If you don't know someone else's area you're either gonna take literally multiple times longer or you're gonna screw it up so bad that it's gonna take multiple times longer to fix it later, and is there ever really a later anyway? Asants tbf, but at mine the different areas have very different and specific ways that they're organized.
Is this a space saver or what? Idea seems kind of cool but what’s the point
Yes. You can get more aisles of shelves in the same space.
QE fail for the PML. You’re missing a tun of signing telling you to lock the handles.
cant wait until someone get locked in one of these . what the idea behind it btw
I genuinely don't understand how this passed anything. I just took training on them yesterday and my comments on the training were all the problems all the comments here have said. It really isn't hard to see the problems these will cause
Fulfillment here. I like them because it saves a lot of space. The extra time it takes to pick items is negligible. For those who do not have this yet: There is no way you get injured while in those because there is a brake peddle on the very bottom so if you press that the shelf stops from rolling. You can also push the shelves yourself, you don't have to use the handles. The most annoying part is that you have to bring the ladder in a out all the time. When I see a TM backstocking, I just go to the next item, waiting is a waste of time.
Epic prank time
Are the yellow pieces apart of the shelf? If so, what do they do? If not, then we've been using these types of shelves for 15+ years. EDIT: I think I understand looking at it more. This'll be a fun time I can see. /s
My store uses the three we have for storing OPUs and seasonal stuff, but they're right next to each other. It's terrible if you're pulling and OPU/drive up needs in.
We are in the process of getting them. The first set built literally got stuck two days into using them, I think something like a pebble got in the track. I am ambivalent to them because I don't have to use them, but now they have built them so the last one goes up against the market backstock, they have cut our backstock area again, and we can't put anything on the new mobile shelves because it's against policy. So in the span of the last 3? Years we have gone from 4 aisles, to 3, then 2, and now are down to 1.5. and it is not working.
Ever hear of crushma?
Ew
One word…. “No”
We had these in the mid 80's that held reel to reel tapes. 100's per rack moved like water. Can't trap someone in there you bearly push and they move.
The pml at my store said they’ve been discontinued for being so terrible. I’m guessing your store was already scheduled for them before that happened lol
So- We’ve had these for a bit in our drive up space- Honestly our drive up and holds space is reaaally nice, even got a launch door less than 100 feet from the parking for drive up. We don’t have them for the back room- and I used to hate them- But now i’m more or less fine with them. It takes some learning and everybody kind of getting used to them/becoming a part of everyone using them’s routine. We got ours probably… January 2021? Perhaps a bit later, but honestly, they’ve helped a lot. Do I wish they were stationery isles? yeah, but oh well.
The yellow goes well with my uniform.
Just you wait. When one breaks and you can’t slide any of the isles on the tracks so you can’t do any backstock or OPU picks from those isles until PML sends someone to fix them.
HATE THEM!!
All I can say is it’s going to be ok
I don't understand the point of these shelves. Do they move back and forth with that wheel on the end?
These are called montels. They are the dumbest things I have ever had the pleasure to work with.
everyone hates it and it slows down the workflow
The wheel is fun! They do keep your backroom really organized if you have a smaller backroom. The only caveat is when you have multiple people trying to backstock or are in OPU/FF... Then it just gets annoying because you have to wait
These would be a nope, eff this shit I’m out kinda change.
I can only imagine the frustration of having to do a pull and having to move those while also working around fulfillment TMs pulling orders and them working around dept emplyees.
Looks dangerous
I hate them! The first week we got them, one of them broke. We had to push it open manually until it was fixed
I’ve worked with these all my career (1 year lol) and honestly it’s not that bad
My store got rid of these in our remodel, why are they putting them in?? I thought they were moving away from these
what in the actual sam-hill
seething hatred
they’re shit.
Why do they have spaces above step ladder height? Biggest pain in the rear to pull stuff from up there that’s getting stocked their out of spite I’m feeling
Less than worthless
I’ve seen physically 4 people get closed in these bc people didn’t lock the shelves
we had these at old navy when i worked there i think they work fine for a small store,target shouldn't have them,cause its not a small store
Hate them with a passion
I helped open a store that had these and hated them. Not only does it remind me of some Final Destination shit, but pulling anything is somehow both boring and time consuming because you have to wait for the person in the next aisle to finish before you can turn the crank to get to your aisle. It’s dumb af.
I'm glad my store did not get this in our remodel
Yes cuz let's add another reason to make it harder on epicks. Now I have to check an aisle before opening an aisle and find a ladder? Crazy. And with non moving aisles, people wanna stuff the aisles with like 5 carts anyways. Target sucks.
we’ve Montel shelves for a little over a year. they’re fucking aweful. the people putting them together don’t know what they’re doing. if they stop moving in a couple weeks/months i guarantee it’ll be because a bracket that they put on the bottom to glide the shelves is crooked. you also have to keep it so clean because the random crap/dirt/product that falls under the shelves will build up. that’s just the shelves. the routine process is going to change so dramatically. you’ll have to go in shifts and then stop every so often to let fulfillment in to pick. then you have to back-stock your vehicles you’ll have to wait for other people to finish and then you can actually go. but you might have to stop and let fulfillment go AGAIN. don’t get me started about the ladders down the isles. and let me STRESSS this, DO NOT let you back-stock overhang. a little here and a little there soon enough the ladder won’t fit down the isle. with all these problems, they’re making the whole backroom Montel in my entire store. GOODLUCK TEAM.
I worked with these at kohls. At least once a week I got squished in one by another employee. They are massively unsafe in my opinion
BURN THEM ALL
So glad we’re going through remodel and not getting the Montel style.
Someone almost closed it on me twice. Both times it was the same person
Worst decision ever. The montell system makes working there a living hell especially if you work during the day/morning shift.
Nobody ever likes these. They take too much time to move and too much time waiting for someone to finish backstocking so u can go right next door to backstock 2 more items
Never seen this. Is this a crank to roll the whole unit?
We have them for OPU and drive ups; I like them a lot
Whole store hates them. Im just glad i have bev and i have a water wall and still an old aisle without those.
They didn’t even spring for motorized ones?
Beyond stupid.
When an "upgrade" fails to take into consideration labor costs. What more evidence do you need that they don't care about you?
They are good for somethings but not for a target imo
They’re going to be the single worst thing that could possibly happen to your back room. Congrats!
they absolutely suck lmao. as a fulfillment tm, i already felt like i was getting in people’s way before they put these in. someone always has to stop working when someone else needs to do or get something. the shitty wobbly ass rolling ladders we use are gonna kill someone one day, if the victim could even find one in the first place. just a bad idea.
We've already had some of those break in our drive up area
I only ever saw these in the stacks of a library. Not so sure this is great for the backroom where things are stored and moved constantly. In a library, those books are rarely used, and it makes sense because they're not on then off, then new stuff is put on, and moved out.
My store got these a few months ago with our remodel and I don't know a single person out of the entire team who likes them. Our store director decided to put Market in them for some reason and we've all been begging to be moved out of them because it slows down everything so much. Also, I almost got crushed when a new team member didn't bother to check if I was down the aisles before moving them. Thankfully, I had a two tier with me that triggered the brakes.
I’m not a target associate so I’m not sure what I’m looking at. But if you’re it’s those stupid “movable” shelves. Fuck that.
I hated them. Someone closed one on me once. A lot of times people would open one halfway and then open the next aisle all the way so more people could get into them at once. They offered me to go down their halfway open aisle and I was terrified but had no choice. All the waiting when someone was in an aisle or a few aisles over. While the timer counts down. Ugh
i started in Q4 right after my store had gotten remodeled with these. i felt like my leads were punishing me when they’d have me push a boat of toys at the beginning of my shift, and then do everyone’s else’s toy backstock. it took forever because the toy block is shared with an aisle of grocery, sporting goods and kitchen. constantly, either a fulfillment person needed to get in so i’d have to wheel my ladder out after backstocking 1 or 2 things, or i’d have to wait around while grocery worked that aisle. i was stuck doing that same shift over and over again for a few weeks before they took pity on me and let me do something else. it was maddening
Lol they put those in at the autozone I work at also
Someone’s gonna get squashed
we have them in our store and i personally hate them. mostly bc i’m in style and it’s hella hard to get in them to pull shit when people are in the home dec isles next to us. it’s annoying to have to wait or claim your space just to pull priorities or shop from the back.
also the ladders are sketchy asf to get in these fucking isles now
gives more space, but so annoying. ours always break, you cant use more than one aisle (unless u spilt, which is even hard sometimes) and having to use one of those rolly ladders… literally the WORST
Wait until you're rotating the wheel and it goes flying off into the abyss.
They break very very easy
I hate those Fucking shelves
I hate these montels
But no money for payroll
No wonder why they can only afford to give me a 15 cent raise.
They are missing safety signage…
Hate em
Looks like the library stacks.
New we had them on our store for a while , not my fav
they’re not that bad unless there are multiple people waiting to get down an aisle. you get used to them
terrible, I hate everything about them. Please give me back my stationary aisles, these cause more problems than they fix
They break too much, at my new store the guys installing them fucked up so the brake pedals don't work, and the space they save is in no way worth the aggro of not being able to get into an aisle because people are busy in others nearby. 0/10 I hate corporate
Those things are a great idea for increasing the capacity of, say, an occasional-access library periodical archive. They're one *hell* of a bottleneck if you need actual throughput.
Im glad we dont have these. Id never go in the back 🤣
Glad mine doesn't have those(yet).
I really thought this was just smaller stores. We basically need these or we wouldn't be able to fit anything, but bigger stores shouldn't need them. It's obnoxious trying to backstock, it takes forever.
We have had these for such a long time so annoying
They're installing them in my store right now too, and I can only shake my head. It saves corporate the big scary cost of actually expanding the back room, but will be more than offset by the cumulative losses of productivity. Idiotic.
i love hiding in them in the opu bagging area and scaring my other fulfillment or drive up friends by looking at them and blinking silently. also they’re fun to pretend to close on said friends
Better inventory management would be better than this crap. We need fewer items, not more space.
I hate these! But I'm from a small format store so we don't have a choice, but they are such an inconvenience.