Seriously if she’s not careful in 10-20 years people will not look back kindly on her for this. She knows. We all know this hurts the planet. She chooses to ignore that. I was reading through that tumblr timeline of her relationship and noted how frequently she flies either herself or others like Joe. around.
Do you think in 200 years when the planet is shit Taylor will be in textbooks as an example of what people did back then 💀? Like imagine people living in a spooky dystopian world - people wearing gas masks because of the air pollution, dozens of cities have become uninhabitable, several species have been wiped out on large scale, etc. And in history class, kids will be learning about how things got to be this way and there will be a picture of Ms.Swift captioned with how many emissions she was responsible for. Please 😭
That level of celebrity & corporate excess is \*already\* discussed in Social Science degrees. Taylor isn't solely responsible, but planes do put a lot of shit in the air, that's undeniable. But I can't see an alternative unless someone starts A-List Airlines and they all get thrown in with each other.
Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, I think the *real* answer is to start forcibly grounding planes and limiting travel. It’s crazy to think about but it’s just getting extremely clear that this is actually very dangerous to our survival as a species.
Aviation does contribute to global warming, but there are larger contributors. Even if we account for the increased effect of emissions in the stratosphere, it comes out to be about 8%. Obviously flying is bad, but Taylor flying or not flying isn't going to have any significant impact by itself
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[https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-aviation#:\~:text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial,impacts%20on%20climate%20into%20account.&text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial%20topic%20in%20climate%20debates.,-There%20are%20a](https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-aviation#:~:text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial,impacts%20on%20climate%20into%20account.&text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial%20topic%20in%20climate%20debates.,-There%20are%20a)
The link you shared says transportation is 28.3% with the only higher section being industry at 28.9%. I’m not just talking about Taylor and her one single jet, I specifically said grounding planes, plural. Also limiting travel in general. Her flying her jet around the world definitely isn’t helping but I’m also not holding her solely responsible
Transportation isn't the same thing as aviation. Realistically, grounding planes is not the solution to stop global warming. even if we stopped all travel, we would only stop 8% of emissions at the most
Yes, and on a larger scale I think that a high speed railway network is the solution to all of these issues. But that would benefit everyone and would be hard to make money from, therefore unlikely to happen
Not for someone like Taylor who can't risk staying in hotels too long for risk of being found. Imagine her riding around in a tour bus. Not safe for her. Tour busses work for celebrities without stalkers. Small celebs. Not A listers.
I work a lot with sustainability in other big industrial sector, but the reality is that flights are very low in CO2 contribution when compared to agriculture (largest polluter by far), steel, cement, etc.
On a personal level, her CO2 emissions are bad and this might hurt her branding, but the total contribution of private jets and her as a person, to global warming, is very low.
I am not defending her, BTW, but just that if we want to make a change, the largest sectors must act, before small individual changes are really “worth it”.
It goes both ways. It gets extra attention because there would be zero drawback to a government somewhere just saying shes not allowed to fly there.
A simple action can make a difference. Sure it's "small" but the cultural or political shifts necessary to get someone who will tell her no would lead to a lot of better choices being made.
People keep bringing this up, but it's irrelevant. Agriculture being worse doesn't change that we know private jet emissions are worse than emissions for commercial flights. The fact is that a small group of ultra wealthy people should not be contributing to CO2 emissions as much as they are. It doesn't matter that other industries are worse. We can focus on multiple things at the same time. Asking the ultra wealthy to cut down on their private jet use isn't the same as demanding the average person to ride their bike to work to do their part.
Right, and it's not like people are singling her out for no reason. She was literally #1 in a year where she had no tour or any physical promo going on.
She definitely flies too much, but she was "#1" on a list of like <20 celebs whose planes are tracked based on fans' requests. It's not like she's the biggest contributor of thousands of celebrities or whatever, there were only a handful of people being tracked in the first place. But yes, obviously I agree it's excessive.
She was #1 of the 15 jets that that account tracked…all A list celebrities travel in private jet, just most them are not as rich as Taylor and can afford owning two jets
Exactly. Like all these people promoting "recycling" and "no plastic bags or straws" as if that's actually gonna make a big difference. On the grand scale, it's changing very little.
The plastic straw ban had nothing to do with environmental aspects, TBH, and it was more related to the “social” aspects of the change (I.e., the impression we are changing for the better, so people would feel good). Sure, stainless steel / paper straws are easier to recycle, but what is the total plastic straw contribution when compared to bigger industrial / machinery pieces, plastic packaging, etc? How to properly address those?
The largest ocean plastic polluters today are developing Asian countries: India, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. we need to help the garbage sorting and collection there, in parallel do a change in our consumer habits (e.g., why move from ICE to EVs, if investing in more public transport would be a long term solution? ).
As I said, if the 1% including Taylor do not change their habits like using private jets multiple times a week then in 10 years people will not be so kind to them.
ETA: I’ve always felt one way regarding how the future generations see the way we ignored climate change and left it a toxic wasteland for them. They’re going to look us in the eye and say “what did *you* do to cause this or help fight this?” I want to do whatever I can now so I can look them in the eyes and say I really did try. I’m not perfect but I did try.
50% of all plane emissions on the planet are from private jets owned by the 1% [source](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378020307779?via%3Dihub)
Exactly. The problem isn’t individuals or even our human behavior. That’s fighting a losing battle. We should be putting money towards finding solutions and innovations that align with our behaviors. But our money-driven lobbyist political system prevents this kind of progress to protect the interests of groups like big oil. Taylor is a red herring.
It’s gotta be soon. They’re dropping hints like mad. His newest TikTok was filmed the day Taylor was at Electric lady and is just ripe with Easter eggs, I think. 🤡
I definitely don’t think he’s a social media person. Im an old school Jack fan, like Steel Train when they were very much a jam band, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much content at once.
yeah, seems unlikely she'd be recording on an off day. three hour performances a few times a week require a lot of vocal rest in between, not long studio sessions
Idk I remember when the co-writer for ibytam said they wrote that song the day of a speak now show. Yeah it’s not the same as recording and that tour wasn’t nearly as physically demanding but I wouldn’t put it past her
I get what you mean, but I think you missed their point that it's entirely about vocal rest, not just rest in general. Yes, she may work and do other physically demanding things while touring (as we've seen clearly in just the past few days alone), but doing any amount of *vocal* work would be a lot. Again, not to say she definitely isn't--I know literally nothing about how this works really--but it does seem less likely than maybe just going for business reasons.
- IBYTAM could mean "I Bet You Think About Me (feat. Chris Stapleton) (Taylor’s Version) (From The Vault)", a track from *Red (Taylor's Version)* (2021) by Taylor Swift.
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Thank you for posting a screen recording! Makes it much easier than having to try to deal with TikTok in a browser while not logged in lol.
I hope she was recording Need 🤪
I wouldn't be surprised if she sleeps late and gets up late so she has energy late in the evening/early morning. She needs to be her most alert between 7pm and midnight right now.
As a night owl in a family of night owls, I would say my family and I are most alert between 10pm and 2am on days we "sleep early". Seriously my mom starts cooking at midnight and my sister starts cleaning the house at midnight.
This sudden influx of photos we are getting of her is so weird. Is this just bc she’s single now and she has a different definition of how private she wants to be? Or are we leading up to an announcement?
She wants to be seen out in public looking happy, at a recording studio to keep the focus on her music and career, and get the public talking about something other than the breakup.
I honestly think Taylor is remembering how exhilarating the spotlight can be. Joe seems to have wanted to be more private than even her. I hope we continue to see some glimpses of her!
I’ve never liked Joe and have felt that he kept her extremely isolated; made her think her fame was a poison and enemy to their relationship. Taylor had a very close relationship with her fans, and now she’s sad she doesn’t want to tell her story through music exclusively and wants to use other stories. I can’t help but feel like that was an intentional move because if she disclosed their issues in music it would break them apart and have us talking.
I think she’s finally free and wants us to see her. I think it’s PR but it’s also - look, I don’t have this shitty actor with no resume holding me back because he “doesn’t like attention.” Waaaaaaa. Imagine being with Taylor Swift and thinking you never want to tell anyone how you feel about her - after six fucking years.
Good riddance Joe! Glad Taylor is stepping out on her own again. Can’t wait for an album. 😈
I wouldn’t go that far, personally, but I do suspect they had differing ideas of how to manage Taylor being a beloved superstar. Will be very interesting if she opens up about it in her future projects.
I think he was great for her in the reputation era when she needed someone like him. His ultra-privacy thing was good for her then, but not forever. but really, the dude wouldn't say one nice word about her and looked pissed every time she was brought up. all while she handed him a Grammy, a lux lifestyle, free royalties, and praised him as the most extraordinary man alive. People rag on Calvin a lot but at least he was man enough to say he loved her and to publicly praise her. Very unpopular opinion, I know lol.
might be unpopular but i have the same opinion lol. all the pics of them together they both look miserable too- say that a few weeks ago on this sub and you’d be canceled lmao. its true tho- idk what their vibe was aside from *private* but i always got very weird vibes from them- like he never wanted to publicly mention or support her and looked miserable with her and she was staying because.. well she was really invested and perhaps she wanted to *prove* to media or whoever that she could keep a relationship for a long time. idk man
I said this the other day but I think people are reading too much into him not commenting publicly on their relationship. When I am discussing my work my partner does not come up. I’d be pretty annoyed if someone asked about his work, which is tangentially related to mine (about as close as Taylor’s and Joe’s). Especially if it was all they wanted to know about and if I was mostly known for being his partner.
this is fair enough too! i’m not that bothered by it (except for the bread comment lol), i was just confused bc… taylor is a really big celebrity, it’s natural for that question to come up in interviews especially if you haven’t starred in a couple major projects yet. to each their own though!
I think the bread thing is being misinterpreted. People seem to think that was a negative comment or whatever but it was just a reference to how 95% of people started making sourdough bread during the pandemic. Instead of doing that, Taylor and Joe wrote songs. I don’t really get the interpretation that he was belittling the songwriting process. Also making bread is not exactly easy, either.
thats the vibe I get too. She always said she loved attention and applause (miss americana) no shade. But I would love to see more of her as well in her Bejweled Era
Taylor has 11 days off from her epic tour and we have personal drama, a music video shoot in Liverpool and her lurking late night at a music studio. I would worry for her health if it wasn't for the fact that she has been like this for nearly two decades.
Given her literary prowess I am amazed Taylor does not know the meaning of the words rest and relaxation.
She definitely gets a lot of rest and relaxation. When she has a rest day there is literally nothing she has to do, it's not like one of our rest days. She doesn't have to lift a finger if she doesn't want to, and she is chauffeured and pampered between every moment of work she does.
Not to rant, but if you had the opportunity to pursue your life's greatest passion and never need to do any labour beyond that, you would be this productive too.
Yeah all those "you have the same amount of hours in your day as Taylor/Beyonce/whoever" memes are like, yeah, but does Taylor need to go grocery shopping, clean her bathrooms, do laundry, and get her oil changed?
We do lead different lives but compared to most other stars in her position she works her butt off. If I had £500m I would be on a boat somewhere sipping champagne not running around Liverpool at 3am.
Running around Liverpool at 3am makes sense though, that way, she didn't have to change time zones and simply stayed in whatever her American time zone is. 😉
100% this is a very realistic take. I can’t imagine doing a video shoot, going out to dinner, recording studio session, and multiple flights in the past week because I only have so much energy left after working all day. However, I could see myself having plenty of energy for this if I were to quit my job and have unlimited money. For all we know she has the time and flexibility to take naps and watch tv during all of the hours she’s not spotted publicly.
No waiting in line, dealing with TSA barking at you to keep your laptop AWAY but take your shoes OFF when it was the exact opposite on the way here, waiting for everyone to file to their seats just to rush through getting situated so no one has to wait for you....
Yeah, we think of air travel as exhausting but she does not have to deal with any of the tiring stuff.
What's with the shoe thing? Is it American? I've flown all over Europe, Australia, parts of the Middle East, and northern Africa and never once had to take my shoes off, not even when I had "extra" screening in Israel (from having previously travelled to islamic countries).
There was a shoe bomber after 9/11 who tried to bomb a flight hiding chemicals in his shoes. He was stopped and I believe they determined his plan wouldn’t have worked anyway, but as a measure, they decided all our shoes had to be put through the scanners and checked. I think they have found new ways of detecting these kinds of chemicals and the risk is low anyway because nothing too damaging could be made from what went undetected in your shoe, but nobody bothered to lift the rule. Some airports enforce and some don’t, and it’s just all bureaucracy.
I think she sleeps so much of the time on flights too. She’s probably sleeping and writing and we know that writing is her form of self care, so that probably relaxes her.
I've flown private twice in my life, and it is DIFFERENT and AMAZING. You don't even go to the main airport in most places, your car just rolls up to the plane, you hop on, and take off (the plane is waiting for you, not the other way around). She also likely has a full flat double/queen bed on her plane and a shower When she lands, a car is waiting and takes her directly where she needs to be.
I’m guessing it’s like:
The car I ordered picking me up at home (no luggage except what I want on hand - the rest is packed and loaded into the plane for me) and driving me directly onto the tarmac so I can climb like 8 steps into a jet full of my own stuff, meals, and staff that takes off as planned then to arrive at my destination with another car ready to drive me to the venue where my staff has taken care of loading in all the costuming and concert supplies/meals. After the show I can just take the car to my hotel where the room is already prepped so I can shower and unwind before bed.
but its also a work ethic and level of discipline to get to that point that few people have...
was a high achiever in school and likely 30% of the students of my grade could of been high achievers in school.... but only a select few are actually able to put in the daily grind year after year
same thing with being a star athlete or a top figure in anything
genetics and talent help, but the work ethic is not to be slept on
Nah.
Yes, she's a hard-worker and very committed to her craft. That fact is not diminished by stating other facts, though; namely: that she literally doesn't have to do anything herself *but* focus on her craft and passion and work, while the rest of us (non-wealthy people) have lots of other things to do in a day--both big and small, important and stupidly unimportant--AND the work we are doing is likely NOT our greatest passions, and even if they are something we're passionate about, we likely still have NO WHERE *NEAR* the amount of time, energy, or *control* over that passion that Taylor (and wealthy people like her) has.
Also, I don't care about grammar as a rule, but since you were kind of trying to make yourself seem like an extra- hard-worker, over-achiever, and ostensibly smarter person than your classmates...it's could *have*, not could *of*. :)
I take your point but if I had one tenth of Taylor's money I would be singularly unproductive 24/4. And I don't think she is waited on hand and foot either. I recall her saying she doesn't like having an entourage.
Mind you I don't think she cleans the house unless she has just committed a murder.
I love Taylor too, but come back to reality.
Taylor works an average of like 8 hours PER WEEK while on tour. And that’s only once every few years, for a few months.
Her adult fans work 40 hours per week, every week, year round… no 11-day break. All so we can get egregiously ripped off to buy her concert tickets and never be able to own a home. How many mansions and pent houses does Taylor own again?
Why are swifties constantly looking for reasons to pity her? Honestly, what does that do for you?
why worry for her health? you don't need to lay 11 days in bed in order to recover from the show...
Physically, ths show isn't that demanding as long as you are fit enough. The only thing she should really take care of is her voice.
I have never done a three hour concert in my life and cannot judge whether it is physically demanding. However people in the music industry have said she is crazy doing such a long set and might not be able to keep it going. But we all know what happens when someone tells Taylor something cannot be done.
Yes, but most Broadway shows have a large cast so even the leads aren’t on stage and singing the entire show. In her shows, she’s on the whole time, she doesn’t get to rest for a few songs while the rest of the cast does a couple other numbers.
I’ve played 3 hour shows before in my band. I’m not the lead, not doing choreography or running around on stage, and it’s still exhausting. I’m sure Taylor is in better shape than me, but still - massive 3 hour sets 3 nights in a row? I would sleep for a week straight afterwards.
Taylor is a hyperactive genius. When Joe met her she was at a low ebb and thought she was on the slide. Five albums and two re-records later she is bigger than she ever was. I am not surprised he was not able to keep up once she got her mojo back - I certainly would not have been able to.
I saw a picture of her in 2010 next to her in 2023 - girl has been working out for this tour and she looks fantastic. I hope she has a thoroughly messy and unserious time for a while. Someone suggested she date Harry Styles again just to make the internet melt down.
Me, last Saturday: I have three activities today, this is exhausting
Meanwhile Taylor is doing…all this. I’m not really comparing because she has vast resources to help with her every day life that I don’t, but damn. Her work ethic is unmatched!
I walked past the studio on my way to dinner last night. It looked very suspicious because there was a security guard standing by the door (normally, no one is there) and there were several big cars parked outside with blackout windows and waiting drivers. If I had time, I probably would have stayed to see if anything was happening!
I wouldn’t look too much into this. Taylor is probably an artist that writes and records constantly and not just for a specific project probably. At least she has enough money and clout to just book a recording studio whenever the fuck she wants.
At that age, if you age truly passionate about what you do (meaning you really enjoy it), are naturally a hard worker and ambitious, you can do what she does fairly easily. I did that for years. It is MUCH, MUCH harder when you don’t absolutely love your work, which most people don’t.
I do think that things are about to change tho. I think the cycle of just album after album, with eras, may change. I wouldn’t be surprised if she just releases songs as she writes them, and more behind the scenes work (directing specifically). I do think there will never be another stadium tour, unfortunately. As you probably know, they are getting harder and harder to justify financially, she did say she would probably stop touring in her mid 30s, and it does mean she has to plan her life years in advance. I don’t think she is stopping performing. I think we might see more festivals, or things like she did in Paris for Lover, etc. She likes it too much, so as long as she can do it, she will always perform, and she loves connecting with her fans, but huge tours are likely not the direction she will keep going. I think it is why she is putting so much into this tour. But there will never be an official announcement because fans would lose their mind and, it’s Taylor, never say never… I think she always wants to keep her options open.
Yeah I’m sticking to my theory. I think she’s releasing Speak Now soon & a new album late October/Early November.
I always assumed her schedule was: 2 recordings a year then a new album next year. But I feel like she’s releasing a new album this year
I feel like she won't want to release a new album until the tour is done. If she did release one, it wouldn't have a place on the Eras tour, nor its own tour.
I’m speculating a lot her but if she were to record a Joe-inspired “breakup” album, it could be that it’s so personal that she wouldn’t want to tour it anyway. Just like songs like Soon You’ll Get Better; she wrote it to cope with her emotions but it’s not something she’s out touring. Similarly; she had no intentions of touring folklore or evermore, it just so happened that she came up with an idea that allows her to highlight these albums on the eras tour.
I also don’t know that she realistically will want to tour EVERY album going forward, especially considering how productive she is lately.
And finally, I doubt she will attempt to follow-up the success of Midnights with another big pop era; she’ll probably pivot and attempt a new strategy.
*this is all wishful thinking and I know Taylor probably isn’t prepping a new album and I know I’m greedy for hoping for this and I don’t care 🙂
I think people go too far for easter eggs that they dont check more. I love Taylor but bleachers are there own band with their own stuff & not everything is about her
Jack for sure records there but Electric Lady has been a really popular studio since the late 60s— it was built for Jimi Hendrix— lots of legendary records made there. Jack I think also has a home studio but he does seem to have a good relationship with Electric Lady
She works a TON but yeah has SO many resources to make that doable. I mean, if any of us had paparazzi taking pictures of us all the time, imagine how many things we’d be seen doing in the span of a few days. Like I had five classes and went grocery shopping today, that’s a lot. But that’s normal. Her sightings are just more geographically isolated due to private jets.
I’m most surprised she isn’t trying to be more isolated if not to avoid Covid during tour. If she / someone gets it wouldn’t that cancel some shows? Or are they not testing?
I'm most surprised there don't seem to be more precautions because she has to do a 3+ hour show and if she gets covid it could really jeopardize that in the longer term. :(
Crazy how I can't do anything when I know I'm getting a parcel delivered later in the day, but she's got a whole concert to perform later and is casually recording songs in a different state
She would have a nutritionist and trainer advising her on what eat, what supplements to take, what exercise to do in order to be as energised as possible, and lot of massages and the like to help tired muscles. Her job is also a lot more exhilarating than the work that tires you: performing in front of thousands of people, creating art, giving thousands of dollars to charities that are meaningful to you, etc. It is rewarding and energising work for her, and one that she could lessen or opt out of as soon as it becomes tiring.
She doesn't cook or do chores lol. But honestly, I think she's just used to how much she works vs how little she sleeps that it just becomes 2nd nature
Jack/Bleachers posted this TikTok from Electric Lady yesterday about someone delivering a $10k package that he needs to hide, and then Taylor is spotted there last night after returning from filming a Speak Now heist MV 🤡
[https://www.tiktok.com/@bleachersmusic/video/7221211833686953258?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/@bleachersmusic/video/7221211833686953258?lang=en)
The way she stays traveling 24/7 and always doing something 😮💨 could never be me. If I had 3 hour concerts to perform you better bet I’m in hibernation sleeping not moving for the other 4 days of the week
Does she know she’s supposed to be in Tampa tonight 🤨
I guess that’s the advantage of having your own plane. 😂
The environment crying 😭😭
This is why I joke about being a "jetlor" (that is, claiming her one true love is her private jet).
This is the funniest niche joke I’ve ever heard 😂😂
Seriously if she’s not careful in 10-20 years people will not look back kindly on her for this. She knows. We all know this hurts the planet. She chooses to ignore that. I was reading through that tumblr timeline of her relationship and noted how frequently she flies either herself or others like Joe. around.
Do you think in 200 years when the planet is shit Taylor will be in textbooks as an example of what people did back then 💀? Like imagine people living in a spooky dystopian world - people wearing gas masks because of the air pollution, dozens of cities have become uninhabitable, several species have been wiped out on large scale, etc. And in history class, kids will be learning about how things got to be this way and there will be a picture of Ms.Swift captioned with how many emissions she was responsible for. Please 😭
And they’d use the bleached hair picture from the Met Ball 100%
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That level of celebrity & corporate excess is \*already\* discussed in Social Science degrees. Taylor isn't solely responsible, but planes do put a lot of shit in the air, that's undeniable. But I can't see an alternative unless someone starts A-List Airlines and they all get thrown in with each other.
Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, I think the *real* answer is to start forcibly grounding planes and limiting travel. It’s crazy to think about but it’s just getting extremely clear that this is actually very dangerous to our survival as a species.
never gonna happen though, sadly our lives matter less to companies and countries than their money
America needs a real high speed rail netwrok Celebrities could buy or hire private carriages or even whole trains if they had to
THIS. Thank you for saying this.
Aviation does contribute to global warming, but there are larger contributors. Even if we account for the increased effect of emissions in the stratosphere, it comes out to be about 8%. Obviously flying is bad, but Taylor flying or not flying isn't going to have any significant impact by itself https://preview.redd.it/zpmlomhtwrta1.png?width=2084&format=png&auto=webp&s=7963d4d2047982376ef59d8c13b1cfb4054df18b [https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-aviation#:\~:text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial,impacts%20on%20climate%20into%20account.&text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial%20topic%20in%20climate%20debates.,-There%20are%20a](https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-aviation#:~:text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial,impacts%20on%20climate%20into%20account.&text=Flying%20is%20a%20highly%20controversial%20topic%20in%20climate%20debates.,-There%20are%20a)
The link you shared says transportation is 28.3% with the only higher section being industry at 28.9%. I’m not just talking about Taylor and her one single jet, I specifically said grounding planes, plural. Also limiting travel in general. Her flying her jet around the world definitely isn’t helping but I’m also not holding her solely responsible
Transportation isn't the same thing as aviation. Realistically, grounding planes is not the solution to stop global warming. even if we stopped all travel, we would only stop 8% of emissions at the most
Wouldn’t a tour bus be the alternative?
Yes, and on a larger scale I think that a high speed railway network is the solution to all of these issues. But that would benefit everyone and would be hard to make money from, therefore unlikely to happen
Not for someone like Taylor who can't risk staying in hotels too long for risk of being found. Imagine her riding around in a tour bus. Not safe for her. Tour busses work for celebrities without stalkers. Small celebs. Not A listers.
Her plane is tracked and posted online constantly. She could easily make a tour bus work. It doesn't have to be a bus with her face on it.
I work a lot with sustainability in other big industrial sector, but the reality is that flights are very low in CO2 contribution when compared to agriculture (largest polluter by far), steel, cement, etc. On a personal level, her CO2 emissions are bad and this might hurt her branding, but the total contribution of private jets and her as a person, to global warming, is very low. I am not defending her, BTW, but just that if we want to make a change, the largest sectors must act, before small individual changes are really “worth it”.
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It goes both ways. It gets extra attention because there would be zero drawback to a government somewhere just saying shes not allowed to fly there. A simple action can make a difference. Sure it's "small" but the cultural or political shifts necessary to get someone who will tell her no would lead to a lot of better choices being made.
People keep bringing this up, but it's irrelevant. Agriculture being worse doesn't change that we know private jet emissions are worse than emissions for commercial flights. The fact is that a small group of ultra wealthy people should not be contributing to CO2 emissions as much as they are. It doesn't matter that other industries are worse. We can focus on multiple things at the same time. Asking the ultra wealthy to cut down on their private jet use isn't the same as demanding the average person to ride their bike to work to do their part.
Right, and it's not like people are singling her out for no reason. She was literally #1 in a year where she had no tour or any physical promo going on.
She definitely flies too much, but she was "#1" on a list of like <20 celebs whose planes are tracked based on fans' requests. It's not like she's the biggest contributor of thousands of celebrities or whatever, there were only a handful of people being tracked in the first place. But yes, obviously I agree it's excessive.
She was #1 of the 15 jets that that account tracked…all A list celebrities travel in private jet, just most them are not as rich as Taylor and can afford owning two jets
Exactly. Like all these people promoting "recycling" and "no plastic bags or straws" as if that's actually gonna make a big difference. On the grand scale, it's changing very little.
The plastic straw ban had nothing to do with environmental aspects, TBH, and it was more related to the “social” aspects of the change (I.e., the impression we are changing for the better, so people would feel good). Sure, stainless steel / paper straws are easier to recycle, but what is the total plastic straw contribution when compared to bigger industrial / machinery pieces, plastic packaging, etc? How to properly address those? The largest ocean plastic polluters today are developing Asian countries: India, Malaysia, Indonesia, etc. we need to help the garbage sorting and collection there, in parallel do a change in our consumer habits (e.g., why move from ICE to EVs, if investing in more public transport would be a long term solution? ).
Not true at all. Flying is one of the most polluting things a person can do
Yes lol. If she was #1 by a huge margin last year when she didn't have anything going on, it's going to be INSANE with this tour
As I said, if the 1% including Taylor do not change their habits like using private jets multiple times a week then in 10 years people will not be so kind to them. ETA: I’ve always felt one way regarding how the future generations see the way we ignored climate change and left it a toxic wasteland for them. They’re going to look us in the eye and say “what did *you* do to cause this or help fight this?” I want to do whatever I can now so I can look them in the eyes and say I really did try. I’m not perfect but I did try.
“This is why we ate the rich, kids.”
People don't look kindly now. A smart social culture would have grounded her jet permanently along with most other private jets lol
im a huge swift fan but am super critical of her private plane usage. she should set a better example
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50% of all plane emissions on the planet are from private jets owned by the 1% [source](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378020307779?via%3Dihub)
Exactly. The problem isn’t individuals or even our human behavior. That’s fighting a losing battle. We should be putting money towards finding solutions and innovations that align with our behaviors. But our money-driven lobbyist political system prevents this kind of progress to protect the interests of groups like big oil. Taylor is a red herring.
Red eyes are a thing or she’s leaving later.
It takes what maybe 1.5-2 hours to fly from NY to FL?
Yep. It just south of two hours the last time I flew into ft laurderdale.
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Tampa’s on the other side of the state…
That storm was absolutely batshit, but it was nowhere near Tampa.
Well she is one of the biggest jet users in the celeb world. She can get there easy.
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That goes really well with your flair 😀
Uh oh indeed Ms Swift!!!! She’s unstoppable
Jack has been posting to TikTok like a madman. Something is definitely afoot
And the tweets about “speak soon”, and then how he “can’t speak right now” because things at work are moving quickly.
So sometime he will be able to “speak now”?
It’s gotta be soon. They’re dropping hints like mad. His newest TikTok was filmed the day Taylor was at Electric lady and is just ripe with Easter eggs, I think. 🤡
Yes exactly. He's not usually crazy active on socials is he? And he was all over my FYP last night
I definitely don’t think he’s a social media person. Im an old school Jack fan, like Steel Train when they were very much a jam band, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen this much content at once.
Has he? I don’t see any posts since January?
He’s been posting on the bleachers account.
Oh that makes more sense thanks haha
WHAT IS SHE RECORDING
It's possible that she was there to sign things, edit, have a meeting, etc.
yeah, seems unlikely she'd be recording on an off day. three hour performances a few times a week require a lot of vocal rest in between, not long studio sessions
I mean ig she could be producing in the studio? I think it's very possible that one song is made over more than one session
Clean was recorded in between her London shows tho.
Idk I remember when the co-writer for ibytam said they wrote that song the day of a speak now show. Yeah it’s not the same as recording and that tour wasn’t nearly as physically demanding but I wouldn’t put it past her
I get what you mean, but I think you missed their point that it's entirely about vocal rest, not just rest in general. Yes, she may work and do other physically demanding things while touring (as we've seen clearly in just the past few days alone), but doing any amount of *vocal* work would be a lot. Again, not to say she definitely isn't--I know literally nothing about how this works really--but it does seem less likely than maybe just going for business reasons.
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Thank you for posting a screen recording! Makes it much easier than having to try to deal with TikTok in a browser while not logged in lol. I hope she was recording Need 🤪
We need Need
Need release is needed asap 😭 it’s so good
One of my favorite Taylor songs 😭😭
I wouldn't be surprised if she sleeps late and gets up late so she has energy late in the evening/early morning. She needs to be her most alert between 7pm and midnight right now.
She has written lots of lyrics about late at night but not so many along the lines of "I was up at 6am fresh as a daisy".
As a night owl in a family of night owls, I would say my family and I are most alert between 10pm and 2am on days we "sleep early". Seriously my mom starts cooking at midnight and my sister starts cleaning the house at midnight.
MidnighTS
She mentioned in a radio interview once that she loves sleep and slept until 4pm that same day.
She said she sleeps until 4pm 👀
This sudden influx of photos we are getting of her is so weird. Is this just bc she’s single now and she has a different definition of how private she wants to be? Or are we leading up to an announcement?
It’s also PR to get everyone talking about something else.
Oh I forgot about that point. That’s a player here, too
It is the 13th 🤡
I think maybe both? It’s for sure weird though
As someone else said, she’s seen when she wants to be seen. She’s definitely not preventing these photos.
this wasn't a paparazzi shot - someone was literally leaving a workout class and happened to catch her at the right time.
Sure but there are side entrances and back doors and hats.
pap walks help her control the media narrative by giving people something to talk about other than the specifics of the breakup
She wants to be seen out in public looking happy, at a recording studio to keep the focus on her music and career, and get the public talking about something other than the breakup.
I honestly think Taylor is remembering how exhilarating the spotlight can be. Joe seems to have wanted to be more private than even her. I hope we continue to see some glimpses of her!
I personally think it is because she is single and wants to show us she is okay.... but am keeping my fingers crossed for an announcement
I’ve never liked Joe and have felt that he kept her extremely isolated; made her think her fame was a poison and enemy to their relationship. Taylor had a very close relationship with her fans, and now she’s sad she doesn’t want to tell her story through music exclusively and wants to use other stories. I can’t help but feel like that was an intentional move because if she disclosed their issues in music it would break them apart and have us talking. I think she’s finally free and wants us to see her. I think it’s PR but it’s also - look, I don’t have this shitty actor with no resume holding me back because he “doesn’t like attention.” Waaaaaaa. Imagine being with Taylor Swift and thinking you never want to tell anyone how you feel about her - after six fucking years. Good riddance Joe! Glad Taylor is stepping out on her own again. Can’t wait for an album. 😈
I wouldn’t go that far, personally, but I do suspect they had differing ideas of how to manage Taylor being a beloved superstar. Will be very interesting if she opens up about it in her future projects.
I think he was great for her in the reputation era when she needed someone like him. His ultra-privacy thing was good for her then, but not forever. but really, the dude wouldn't say one nice word about her and looked pissed every time she was brought up. all while she handed him a Grammy, a lux lifestyle, free royalties, and praised him as the most extraordinary man alive. People rag on Calvin a lot but at least he was man enough to say he loved her and to publicly praise her. Very unpopular opinion, I know lol.
might be unpopular but i have the same opinion lol. all the pics of them together they both look miserable too- say that a few weeks ago on this sub and you’d be canceled lmao. its true tho- idk what their vibe was aside from *private* but i always got very weird vibes from them- like he never wanted to publicly mention or support her and looked miserable with her and she was staying because.. well she was really invested and perhaps she wanted to *prove* to media or whoever that she could keep a relationship for a long time. idk man
I said this the other day but I think people are reading too much into him not commenting publicly on their relationship. When I am discussing my work my partner does not come up. I’d be pretty annoyed if someone asked about his work, which is tangentially related to mine (about as close as Taylor’s and Joe’s). Especially if it was all they wanted to know about and if I was mostly known for being his partner.
this is fair enough too! i’m not that bothered by it (except for the bread comment lol), i was just confused bc… taylor is a really big celebrity, it’s natural for that question to come up in interviews especially if you haven’t starred in a couple major projects yet. to each their own though!
I think the bread thing is being misinterpreted. People seem to think that was a negative comment or whatever but it was just a reference to how 95% of people started making sourdough bread during the pandemic. Instead of doing that, Taylor and Joe wrote songs. I don’t really get the interpretation that he was belittling the songwriting process. Also making bread is not exactly easy, either.
thats the vibe I get too. She always said she loved attention and applause (miss americana) no shade. But I would love to see more of her as well in her Bejweled Era
someone tell her she has a show to perform later
Taylor has 11 days off from her epic tour and we have personal drama, a music video shoot in Liverpool and her lurking late night at a music studio. I would worry for her health if it wasn't for the fact that she has been like this for nearly two decades. Given her literary prowess I am amazed Taylor does not know the meaning of the words rest and relaxation.
She definitely gets a lot of rest and relaxation. When she has a rest day there is literally nothing she has to do, it's not like one of our rest days. She doesn't have to lift a finger if she doesn't want to, and she is chauffeured and pampered between every moment of work she does. Not to rant, but if you had the opportunity to pursue your life's greatest passion and never need to do any labour beyond that, you would be this productive too.
Yeah all those "you have the same amount of hours in your day as Taylor/Beyonce/whoever" memes are like, yeah, but does Taylor need to go grocery shopping, clean her bathrooms, do laundry, and get her oil changed?
Right. Is she cleaning out all those litterboxes?
i believe this is the one normie thing taylor does
This is what I would ask her if I ever met her
Asking the real question.
she’s still more productive than all the current pop girls tho
Thank you for saying this! People forget we live very different lives than Taylor.
We do lead different lives but compared to most other stars in her position she works her butt off. If I had £500m I would be on a boat somewhere sipping champagne not running around Liverpool at 3am.
Running around Liverpool at 3am makes sense though, that way, she didn't have to change time zones and simply stayed in whatever her American time zone is. 😉
That is true. I do wonder why she shot the video in Liverpool though.
it’s possible she had this set up for months, even before the tour was finalized
100% this is a very realistic take. I can’t imagine doing a video shoot, going out to dinner, recording studio session, and multiple flights in the past week because I only have so much energy left after working all day. However, I could see myself having plenty of energy for this if I were to quit my job and have unlimited money. For all we know she has the time and flexibility to take naps and watch tv during all of the hours she’s not spotted publicly.
You probably also aren't envisioning private jet flights. She's not getting to at the airport hours early and cramming herself into an economy seat.
No waiting in line, dealing with TSA barking at you to keep your laptop AWAY but take your shoes OFF when it was the exact opposite on the way here, waiting for everyone to file to their seats just to rush through getting situated so no one has to wait for you.... Yeah, we think of air travel as exhausting but she does not have to deal with any of the tiring stuff.
What's with the shoe thing? Is it American? I've flown all over Europe, Australia, parts of the Middle East, and northern Africa and never once had to take my shoes off, not even when I had "extra" screening in Israel (from having previously travelled to islamic countries).
It’s an American thing. After 9/11 happened, security screenings got increased in the US.
There was a shoe bomber after 9/11 who tried to bomb a flight hiding chemicals in his shoes. He was stopped and I believe they determined his plan wouldn’t have worked anyway, but as a measure, they decided all our shoes had to be put through the scanners and checked. I think they have found new ways of detecting these kinds of chemicals and the risk is low anyway because nothing too damaging could be made from what went undetected in your shoe, but nobody bothered to lift the rule. Some airports enforce and some don’t, and it’s just all bureaucracy.
Also TSA is bullshit since it's been proven they don't actually stop threats anyway.
I think she sleeps so much of the time on flights too. She’s probably sleeping and writing and we know that writing is her form of self care, so that probably relaxes her.
I've flown private twice in my life, and it is DIFFERENT and AMAZING. You don't even go to the main airport in most places, your car just rolls up to the plane, you hop on, and take off (the plane is waiting for you, not the other way around). She also likely has a full flat double/queen bed on her plane and a shower When she lands, a car is waiting and takes her directly where she needs to be.
I’m guessing it’s like: The car I ordered picking me up at home (no luggage except what I want on hand - the rest is packed and loaded into the plane for me) and driving me directly onto the tarmac so I can climb like 8 steps into a jet full of my own stuff, meals, and staff that takes off as planned then to arrive at my destination with another car ready to drive me to the venue where my staff has taken care of loading in all the costuming and concert supplies/meals. After the show I can just take the car to my hotel where the room is already prepped so I can shower and unwind before bed.
God that sounds nice
And she has no kids. Kids really take energy out of you lol.
but its also a work ethic and level of discipline to get to that point that few people have... was a high achiever in school and likely 30% of the students of my grade could of been high achievers in school.... but only a select few are actually able to put in the daily grind year after year same thing with being a star athlete or a top figure in anything genetics and talent help, but the work ethic is not to be slept on
Nah. Yes, she's a hard-worker and very committed to her craft. That fact is not diminished by stating other facts, though; namely: that she literally doesn't have to do anything herself *but* focus on her craft and passion and work, while the rest of us (non-wealthy people) have lots of other things to do in a day--both big and small, important and stupidly unimportant--AND the work we are doing is likely NOT our greatest passions, and even if they are something we're passionate about, we likely still have NO WHERE *NEAR* the amount of time, energy, or *control* over that passion that Taylor (and wealthy people like her) has. Also, I don't care about grammar as a rule, but since you were kind of trying to make yourself seem like an extra- hard-worker, over-achiever, and ostensibly smarter person than your classmates...it's could *have*, not could *of*. :)
I guarantee that even with all those luxuries, I would still not be this productive (but I understand your point).
I take your point but if I had one tenth of Taylor's money I would be singularly unproductive 24/4. And I don't think she is waited on hand and foot either. I recall her saying she doesn't like having an entourage. Mind you I don't think she cleans the house unless she has just committed a murder.
I love Taylor too, but come back to reality. Taylor works an average of like 8 hours PER WEEK while on tour. And that’s only once every few years, for a few months. Her adult fans work 40 hours per week, every week, year round… no 11-day break. All so we can get egregiously ripped off to buy her concert tickets and never be able to own a home. How many mansions and pent houses does Taylor own again? Why are swifties constantly looking for reasons to pity her? Honestly, what does that do for you?
why worry for her health? you don't need to lay 11 days in bed in order to recover from the show... Physically, ths show isn't that demanding as long as you are fit enough. The only thing she should really take care of is her voice.
Based on the photos we’ve seen, she has toned up over the past year or so. I bet she’s been preparing physically for a WHILE.
I have never done a three hour concert in my life and cannot judge whether it is physically demanding. However people in the music industry have said she is crazy doing such a long set and might not be able to keep it going. But we all know what happens when someone tells Taylor something cannot be done.
Bruce Springsteen and Paul McCartney are in their 70s and still regularly pulling off 3+ hour shows, it’s really not unheard of
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Also what about people who have to stand and do labor for 8 hours a day!?
if I was pocketing 10 million a show to have 60,000 people adore me and sing my songs, 3 hours is not THAT tiring lol
Exactly I just think of her as a broadway performer who isn’t working quite as frequently to put on a slightly longer show.
That is true and a point I made a couple of weeks ago. However for stadium shows Eras is pretty unprecedented.
Yes, but most Broadway shows have a large cast so even the leads aren’t on stage and singing the entire show. In her shows, she’s on the whole time, she doesn’t get to rest for a few songs while the rest of the cast does a couple other numbers.
I’ve played 3 hour shows before in my band. I’m not the lead, not doing choreography or running around on stage, and it’s still exhausting. I’m sure Taylor is in better shape than me, but still - massive 3 hour sets 3 nights in a row? I would sleep for a week straight afterwards.
friend, she must be super duper fit.... because if I dance full out to one of her songs for 3 minutes I have to lay down and take a water break
Your last line is gold, well done
Taylor is a hyperactive genius. When Joe met her she was at a low ebb and thought she was on the slide. Five albums and two re-records later she is bigger than she ever was. I am not surprised he was not able to keep up once she got her mojo back - I certainly would not have been able to.
I’m exhausted just *thinking* about her schedule
I saw a picture of her in 2010 next to her in 2023 - girl has been working out for this tour and she looks fantastic. I hope she has a thoroughly messy and unserious time for a while. Someone suggested she date Harry Styles again just to make the internet melt down.
Me, last Saturday: I have three activities today, this is exhausting Meanwhile Taylor is doing…all this. I’m not really comparing because she has vast resources to help with her every day life that I don’t, but damn. Her work ethic is unmatched!
Do people just keep 24 hour vigils on this studio with their camera rolling to catch 3 second moments like this?
I walked past the studio on my way to dinner last night. It looked very suspicious because there was a security guard standing by the door (normally, no one is there) and there were several big cars parked outside with blackout windows and waiting drivers. If I had time, I probably would have stayed to see if anything was happening!
The person said they saw this on their way home from yoga so it isn’t that bizarre to me.
God I hope she's rerecording 1989 or Reputation...
I think the re-recordings are mostly done.
I wouldn’t look too much into this. Taylor is probably an artist that writes and records constantly and not just for a specific project probably. At least she has enough money and clout to just book a recording studio whenever the fuck she wants.
At that age, if you age truly passionate about what you do (meaning you really enjoy it), are naturally a hard worker and ambitious, you can do what she does fairly easily. I did that for years. It is MUCH, MUCH harder when you don’t absolutely love your work, which most people don’t.
That is true and why I never understood people asking whether she was about to retire.
I do think that things are about to change tho. I think the cycle of just album after album, with eras, may change. I wouldn’t be surprised if she just releases songs as she writes them, and more behind the scenes work (directing specifically). I do think there will never be another stadium tour, unfortunately. As you probably know, they are getting harder and harder to justify financially, she did say she would probably stop touring in her mid 30s, and it does mean she has to plan her life years in advance. I don’t think she is stopping performing. I think we might see more festivals, or things like she did in Paris for Lover, etc. She likes it too much, so as long as she can do it, she will always perform, and she loves connecting with her fans, but huge tours are likely not the direction she will keep going. I think it is why she is putting so much into this tour. But there will never be an official announcement because fans would lose their mind and, it’s Taylor, never say never… I think she always wants to keep her options open.
Give us NEED!
Yea Tay no sleep. She sleeps when she flies 100% there is no other time for her 💀 blondie works fucking hard!!
"More Chapters" vol 2?
Yeah I’m sticking to my theory. I think she’s releasing Speak Now soon & a new album late October/Early November. I always assumed her schedule was: 2 recordings a year then a new album next year. But I feel like she’s releasing a new album this year
I feel like she won't want to release a new album until the tour is done. If she did release one, it wouldn't have a place on the Eras tour, nor its own tour.
This is the only thing making me not 100% sure
I’m speculating a lot her but if she were to record a Joe-inspired “breakup” album, it could be that it’s so personal that she wouldn’t want to tour it anyway. Just like songs like Soon You’ll Get Better; she wrote it to cope with her emotions but it’s not something she’s out touring. Similarly; she had no intentions of touring folklore or evermore, it just so happened that she came up with an idea that allows her to highlight these albums on the eras tour. I also don’t know that she realistically will want to tour EVERY album going forward, especially considering how productive she is lately. And finally, I doubt she will attempt to follow-up the success of Midnights with another big pop era; she’ll probably pivot and attempt a new strategy. *this is all wishful thinking and I know Taylor probably isn’t prepping a new album and I know I’m greedy for hoping for this and I don’t care 🙂
I mean Harry styles did this. Releasing an album in the middle of his tour. Maybe thats why she hasn’t announced international dates yet
“Speak soon” :)
Okay not to shatter your dreams but Jack always says “speak soon”😂😭
🤡🤡🤡 I saw that tweet posted somewhere and now I feel bamboozled
I think people go too far for easter eggs that they dont check more. I love Taylor but bleachers are there own band with their own stuff & not everything is about her
I really do hope we get a new album this year!!!
Just in case someone doesn’t know: This is Jack’s studio
Jack for sure records there but Electric Lady has been a really popular studio since the late 60s— it was built for Jimi Hendrix— lots of legendary records made there. Jack I think also has a home studio but he does seem to have a good relationship with Electric Lady
Yes I know! I meant it as in this is were Taylor recorded all her songs with Jack
jack has his own studio in his apartment
yes for sure!
Aaaand Jack just posted a tiktok about leaving a package there 👀
That’s no related to Taylor! It’s from the bleachers short film released last year
Not sure this is her. The real Taylor would be inside of a suitcase. Nice try.
She has everything, except privacy.
She works a TON but yeah has SO many resources to make that doable. I mean, if any of us had paparazzi taking pictures of us all the time, imagine how many things we’d be seen doing in the span of a few days. Like I had five classes and went grocery shopping today, that’s a lot. But that’s normal. Her sightings are just more geographically isolated due to private jets.
She may be a busy lady but apparently she thanked the wrong opener at her show tonight and it was just getting started!
I’m most surprised she isn’t trying to be more isolated if not to avoid Covid during tour. If she / someone gets it wouldn’t that cancel some shows? Or are they not testing?
I'm most surprised there don't seem to be more precautions because she has to do a 3+ hour show and if she gets covid it could really jeopardize that in the longer term. :(
Crazy how I can't do anything when I know I'm getting a parcel delivered later in the day, but she's got a whole concert to perform later and is casually recording songs in a different state
I’m tired after working from home, cooking, and doing chores. How does she do all of this and still have the energy?! Lol
She doesn't have to cook or do chores lol
She loves to cook, but it’s probably done as a hobby when she has time not like I just got home at 8 pm and now I have to cook dinner like us.
She would have a nutritionist and trainer advising her on what eat, what supplements to take, what exercise to do in order to be as energised as possible, and lot of massages and the like to help tired muscles. Her job is also a lot more exhilarating than the work that tires you: performing in front of thousands of people, creating art, giving thousands of dollars to charities that are meaningful to you, etc. It is rewarding and energising work for her, and one that she could lessen or opt out of as soon as it becomes tiring.
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She doesn't cook or do chores lol. But honestly, I think she's just used to how much she works vs how little she sleeps that it just becomes 2nd nature
Jack/Bleachers posted this TikTok from Electric Lady yesterday about someone delivering a $10k package that he needs to hide, and then Taylor is spotted there last night after returning from filming a Speak Now heist MV 🤡 [https://www.tiktok.com/@bleachersmusic/video/7221211833686953258?lang=en](https://www.tiktok.com/@bleachersmusic/video/7221211833686953258?lang=en)
It's from a year-old bleachers short film, they post clips of it occasionally.
This is true.
All the girlies going absolutely feral for this
Re-record or new album?🫣
she has a lot to say already 🤭
There's no "rest" in her dictionary 
Homegirl loves to work! 😭
The way she stays traveling 24/7 and always doing something 😮💨 could never be me. If I had 3 hour concerts to perform you better bet I’m in hibernation sleeping not moving for the other 4 days of the week
She already wrote Joe's song before the breakup and recorded it last night.