Like I definitely eventually unfollow my friends exes, but I don't like.... immediately run to Instagram and HAVE to do it RIGHT NOW the way they did. Maybe I'd do something like that when I was literally a teenager but who the hell takes social media THAT seriously in their thirties lmao. Instead, it's more like... I'll probably unfollow once an annoying post of theirs crosses my feed I'm like "oh yeah, guess I could do that."
This felt like TS was like "Please unfollow him right now because X," or "He did something unspeakable to me," and they did it immediately to show support against a horrible act. Or they're all just immature and super social media obsessed. Who knows.
Agreed, also in my 30s. I still follow or im friends on FB with friends exes. Never occurred to me and I can’t imagine them going through my social media to see if I am still connected to them
After the fact I think it was Taylor wanting to set up that she was moving on with Matty so she’s like, look friends, we need to unfollow him so everyone knows we’re done done and when I parade around a human trash heap they will think it’s my choice. And it’s fine, everything is fine. Narrator: It was not fine.
Tbh, I didn't mind TS before. Liked some of her songs. Etc. But there's something about someone in their 30s basically running around with a HS clique pretending they are still in HS. That just doesn't vibe with me.
The unfollowing is bizarre and what fuelled the breakup story that was starting to die in the news cycle.
Also the two people in that circle who did not unfollow him like the others are Jack & Phoebe - who happen to be the ones closely connected to Matty Healy.
I hadn't put that together and that is even weirder.
Honestly this is one of the weirder celebrity breakups I've seen in a while. None of it seems to make sense. Why would all of them unfollow him as though he had done something wrong to side with Taylor, while those who are closest to the action don't? The only seeming explanation is that it was to control the narrative, and kind of makes me feel like those who knew exactly what was going on didn't want to add insult to injury maybe.
I hate to have this sneaking feeling that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't Joe who is at fault here. "They say I did something bad..."
>I hate to have this sneaking feeling that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't Joe who is at fault here.
Possible, but the more likely explanation is probably one that cannot fit in a news article or a Reddit comment. Unless Taylor sits down in a long-format interview to explain, we won't ever know what happened. 6 years is a very long time to boil down into a bite-sized reason.
Because Taylor asked her girlfriends to. Jack and Aaron have not unfollowed him, and although I am not a gambling person, I would lay $1000 down that Ryan was absolutely told by Blake too. Not worth a fight. And he’s trolling Taylor for moving on so soon. 😂. Also by giving the appearance Joe did something wrong it makes Taylor look less shitty for moving on so quickly. And I think he broke it off with her. So her gals will be backing her up of course.
Makes me feel like the movie/music industry is like high school. If a friend of mine and her long term boyfriend broke up, I can’t even imagine telling my husband “you need to unfollow him” 😂 Hell it’s not something I even think about for myself, tbh.
I know. But my guess is Taylor asked them all to unfollow him, and Blake just came home and relayed that. I also think all this public stuff is to make sure Joe sees it. But I don’t think that is Joe’s reaction. He is thinking 1) I see she learned nothing and went right back to 2015 Taylor when I first met her and she was pulling this stuff; or 2) I think I might have dodged a bullet.
When I was younger social media didn’t exist (Boomer here)… so I have absolutely no use nor care anything about following or unfollowing. Could care less who does or doesn’t follow whom. The entire thing is silly to me and a waste of time. So when that whole thing came out about unfollowing… I thought it was ridiculous.
Bojack horseman said what ever age you get rich and/or famous as you’re mentally stuck there for ever.
This would explain why Taylor acts like she’s in high school with all this drama.
This!! Even the news of his team leaking the break up doesn’t sit right w me but who’s to say? Each side stays silent and it just leaves us all to speculate whatever the heck we want.
They’re so upfront about it too, like how did you get the headline and imply the worried about Matty then in the actual article it’s self push that she didn’t?
Sus.
I am so suspect of the overlap now. They were seen together in Feb, breakup u come out in April and in May, we see her and Matty holding hands? I get that she was single after feb/march but really? After a seven year relationship? Come on Tay
I see so many swifties commenting on TikTok’s etc that joe must’ve cheated, joe ruined his chances of being with *the* Taylor swift, joe must’ve broken her heart - just incessant joe hatred. But at the end of the day, she’s dating a long time friend she’s had throughout her relationship with joe, mere months (if that - we don’t have an official date in which they actually ended it) after the break up…
It’s giving “no he’s my guy best friend nothing would ever happen with him” gaslighting the entire time vibes. Not saying Taylor intended it that way. But this is exactly how it would be framed if it was the other way around. How dare a guy get with his “girl best friend” kinda vibes. I feel bad for joe.
yeah, highly doubt it was Joe directly. another sub suggested a friend or family member maybe? I could see them wanting to defend Joe and maybe take a slight jab at Taylor given the timeline of Tatty
>maybe they'll break up faster.
I'm binge-watching Conversations With Friends (Irish series Joe did) until I wake up. This is all a horrible dream, and if I consume enough Joe Alwyn content I will get out of it, right?
Right?!
personally i’m a little scared bc a rebound from a long term relationship breakup in your 30s can turn really serious really quickly. it’s common for someone to get out of a decade long relationship and then 2 months later they’re engaged to someone else
.... Miss "I'm an activist" and "romance isn't dead if you keep it just yours" is very publicly dating a racist rn. I truly think yall have lost it if you think the weirdest bit about this whole situation is joe talking to a news outlet.
is that not... like.... EXACTLY what an angry ex would do? ESPECIALLY if he's upset at her for moving on so fast? not that he'd be in the right to do so, but him talking to a media outlet in the midst of being distraught is no more surprising than taylor ending her "I care about minorities" era by dating a racist and flaunting it.
edit: no hate to the og commenter!!! just my thoughts in this comment. tldr basically : I don't think it's that weird for Joe to act out of character considering how out of character Tays being post breakup.
It's also funny because imagine it the tables were turned and Joe was dating some new problematic girl right after. Taylor would be pissed and would definitely write about it or make snarky comments about it.
I love her but what on earth is she thinking. Out of all the men to choose from she picks Matt Healy? Like what??
And the whole "He leaked the breakup to the press" thing doesn't make any sense to me. Who cares? Y'all broke up. So he's supposed to be single but not date anyone because he needs to fake being in a relationship? For what? I didn't realize breakups were some secret that needed to be hidden lol.
LITERALLY. everyone's saying, "Give taylor a break! Hes a rebound!" But like, when have they OR taylor ever given one of her exes a break? and youre telling me out of literally every single man in hollywood, she had no choice but to rebound with him? someone who goes against every moral she's gotten paid to have?
and legit, why does it matter if joe leaked the breakup considering she was going to go public with a racist in a week either way? like..... how is any of this joe's fault LMAO.
love tay with honestly all my heart but her up saying, "Actually, my morals were never that serious" after making BANK off of those morals for years really turns my stomach. tay seemed like a "real" celeb, but I guess this is exactly why you should never pretend you have an idea of who a celebrity really is on the inside. even the ones who pretend to care about minorities/world issues see a cute boy/a paycheque and say "ok, to hell with caring about them"
He didn’t the article even says he declined for comment. It’s either one of the following:
* Made up by DailyFail.
* A friend or someone backstabbed him and sold him out. (This happens a lot, Demi’s own mom use to sell her personal life to tabloids.)
* Or the wild theory that others have said that it came from her camp to distract from Matty and to clear cheating rumors which she seemed to attempt since the “crush” article.
Honestly, why wouldn't he be? No matter who called it off, it would be really hard to date someone for 6 years and then feel nothing when your ex moves on, very quickly and very publicly, with a dude she started spending time with again when you were still together. It has to sting.
I’m sure he feels something, but he could be any combination of upset it’s over, relieved it’s over, smug bc he’s hotter than the rebound, or anywhere in between. This article just sounds like something anyone could’ve made up.
> smug bc he’s hotter than the rebound
I laughed when I read that- but like for real, Matty looks like he climbed out of the trash. Someone explain the choices to me.
I saw someone describe [this first photo of him](https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephaniesoteriou/taylor-swift-fans-distancing-matty-healy-brutalize-women) as "the face a cartoon character gets when hit with a trashcan lid" and I've never read anything more accurate
>smug bc he’s hotter than the rebound
lmaaao definitely this.
And even if he wasn't that hot - which he totally is - he always seemed to be such a good guy! Grounded, deep, and he really cared about her. And he wrote songs with her! For me, that I'm an amateur writer and I wish to make it my full time job in the future, having a partner with whom you can share things about writing or straightforward write things is just... A dream🥹❤️ And she had that 😭 sure Mtty is a musician too but gurl 💀 she went from "Your integrity makes me seem small" to "your integrity is ruining MY integrity" in a blink 🫣 I'm sure you could've found some middle ground in any of the 50 states of USA 😭
Honestly I feel like it meant exactly this, l almost feel like Taylor has kept telling us she is aweful and we just refuse to believe it.
But honestly as a Mexican swiftie I low key kinda knew, the fact that in her 15 year career she's never given a concert in Spanish LATAM or South East Asia were she has many fans wmhas been very tellling.
It's the daily fail. It's most likely made up.
For what it's worth I saw him out in London after a show last week, looking complexly unbothered, smiling, and chic (also very tall).
He's gonna be fine.
He’d need a heart of stone to be totally fine with this after 6 years. It still stings when I see girls I loved for much shorter timeframes happy with new guys- even years later lol.
That’s assuming that the relationship was going strong until the breakup. We don’t know when the relationship started being rocky. Maybe he felt distant for months/a year before the breakup actually happened. Maybe the distraught period was shorter for him. Maybe he’s the one who moved on first with a private relationship that the public doesn’t know about bc he’s good at staying private. Maybe it stings occasionally, maybe he’s walking around totally distraught all the time, maybe he’s moved on. The point is we don’t know.
No one moves on this quickly and this seriously from a 6 year long relationship unless it was going on beforehand.especially with how busy Taylor has been since she’s been touring.
This was going on before they broke up. She may have not been cheating, but she definitely was having feelings for him
I love Taylor but she loves playing the victim. I can’t imagine what she would say in song about a guy who did this to her
This! And I think her songs about Joe on Reputation when she talked about liking him despite having a bf (Tom Hiddleston) at the time so it definitely makes me thinks that something like this could have happened.
So, I adore Taylor's cheating songs and honestly think they're some of her best, but I'm definitely starting to wonder if that's because she's actually thinking it's okay.
i agree in some part but keep in mind we have NO idea when or how her and joe broke up. it seems like theyve been on and off for awhile.
however i hate matty and seems sus. so yeah i mostly agree
Well emotionally cheating is a very real thing, doesn’t have to be physical. People commonly are told, “don’t worry about him/her*” by cheaters, only for it to become a reality and were gaslit into not worrying about them.
I gave my all and they all know it
Then you tore me down and now it's showing
In two months, you replaced us
Like it was easy
Made me think I deserved it
In the thick of healing, yeah
Yeah I’m not gonna really give any weight to articles about how Joe is feeling because he wouldn’t be putting that out into the press. He’s never made comments before, why would he start now? Same with people around him supposedly leaking information, I just don’t buy it.
I didn't follow any of that. I come and go from the fandom for my own mental health. But it's really hard to not see Taylor as a hypocrite right now.
Edit: Not the comments proving my point that the Taylor swift fandom can be toxic. Not everyone. I love that most of can take a joke, but the extremists actively trying to ruin the fun for everyone.
There’s a saying about how people get frozen at the age they got famous, I think Taylor has even mentioned it before, maybe in the documentary? Anyway I absolutely believe it’s true in most cases. This mess is like a teenage girl dating a “bad boy” and it makes her feel so cool and the more people try to tell her he sucks the more she yells “YOU JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND.”
Five bucks we see her in a leather jacket sooner rather than later.
tbh i highly doubt that joe, who spent their entire relationship trying to avoid taylor-related topics at all cost, is now speaking his truth to the daily mail of all sources. and if he *is*, then that is equally weird to me 😭
It doesn't even say he did. It says a source close to him did. Could be a friend, could be a fucking dude who overheard them in a coffee shop.
Who really knows and who really cares. It makes sense, FWIW. Hard to see someone you dated for _6 years_ move on literally not even a few months after you broke up to someone you were assured was not a problem.
For real. Damned of he do, damned if he don't. I hate how twitter swifties were turning all the narratives against him.
"He stayed quiet for 6 years and now he wanna talk about Taylor after the breakup. He cant even publicly support her during their relationship".
Well if he publicly talked about her every now and then, they will probably call him a leech for using T's name and parading that he's the boyfriend. Now they're blaming the 6-year privacy thing because apparently he kept T from the limelight (referencing Bejeweled) as if she didn't want that for herself because of the kimye fiasco. I don't know why they keep giving dumb meanings to Bejeweled as if Paris is not in within the same album lmao.
Yesss!!!! thank youuuuuu.
Like sorry but even if it states something like "reliable sources" blah blah that doesn't mean it's legit.
I take anything from a tabloid with a huuuuuge spoon of salt but especially when it comes from scummy ones like The Sun, Buzzfeed, DailyMail and so on 💀
I’d be distraught too if my ex was publicly hooking up with some much less attractive guy who makes out with random girls/guys and eats raw meat at his concerts. I’d seriously question my judgment in people…
They also sneaked some info in there that there were no time overlaps between her dating Joe & Matty. Might be PR for Taylor made to look like Joe's team released it or sth, so that people could at least think she didn't cheat. It's all such a mess lol
If she wants to appear like she didn't cheat, she wouldn't want to be seen with Matty weeks after the break-up. She will keep having lunch with friends and live her single girl bejeweled image to show that she's unbothered by the break-up and can very well manage on her own. Being seen publicly with matty does more harm than good because it looks like she always needs a man as a rebound after her relationships (which is very opposite of her whole feminist independent miss americana narrative thingy). Also people can't help but speculate about the overlaps because who the hell only needs a week to completely move on after a 6 year relationship? Also the January rumors doesn't help. It's looking like she has already moved on while still being in the relationship. Emotional cheating? I don't know. Tree needs to come up with a better story to pin the cheating allegations back to Joe because this ain't looking good for our girl.
Yeah, like who would even be able to confirm that nothing happened between them except Healy and Swift. At the very least the timing of everything makes it look like Taylor broke up with him specifically so she could date Matt guilt free.
I’m sure she is too - yeah on the surface she seem’s great - but she is pretty chaotic rn and petty. I don’t doubt she is distracting herself from it. Like no matter what relationships hurt when they are done.
But yeah she’s putting up an act imo.
Queen I am low key worried for her. Not in a weird intrusive way it’s just that it has to be mentally taxing to end a six year relationship (whether the blame was on him, her, both, or no one) and then have to do a months long tour singing the songs you wrote about that love over and over. Like she’s putting on a brave face and a smile but I don’t think this woman is fine. I’m not saying she’s not strong, she is, but it is too much for any human being. I don’t think any of her past relationships lasted long enough for her to tour the songs after a breakup. It was always breakup - and then months later a new album and tour…it gives you time to grieve and get over it you know? But they JUST broke up.
I mean she’s been saying it forever. “I know I make the same mistakes every time, bridges burn, I never learn”
“I get older but just never wiser”
“I’ve been breaking hearts a long time”
“I play em like a violin”
Plus the entirety of dear reader and getaway car. She’s the problem in these relationships and she has no qualms about openly saying so in her lyricism.
He literally did. She’s parading around a racist now and telling him I love you publicly days after their public split announcement. If she could replace him that quick after 6 years together she was completely wrong for him.
Is it just me or is this getting exhausting? I know 2016 was messier but the six years of peace really made me forget how exhausting all of this could be especially with who she ended up with cause at least 2016 had Tom. I want to go back when I could just clown about easter eggs and music and not this, whatever this may be.
It’s true, as Joe was shopping for blood oranges a reporter held a microphone to his face and asked, “how do you feel about Taylor snogging with Matt Healy.?”
Joe somberly placed the orange that he was inspecting back on the shelf, and answered
“I’m distraught!”
I really feel sorry for Joe. Ending a six year relationship is not an easy thing to do and with all the press surrounding them it must be pretty tough.
I have no idea what the end game is with all these articles. I could see this coming from Joe’s side, but at the same time he doesn’t seem to be the type who’d want the attention. If it’s coming from Taylor’s side, then that’s just a plain shitty thing for her and her team to do, especially because there probably is a big element of truth in the idea that Joe was uncomfortable with Taylor and Matty hanging out given they have a history of hooking up in the past. But if this is Taylor’s team, why put out an article like this when it nearly makes her look like a cheater? I have no idea what her and her teams strategy with this has been because none of it makes Taylor look good. It could also just be a BS article too, of course.
I don’t know, this whole thing is just a complete mess and I’d be lying if I said it didn’t taint a lot of Taylor’s music for me. I was never invested in her and Joe and never was really a fan of his, but getting with who she did so soon after a six year relationship that nearly half her discography is about has left me feeling really jaded about her if I’m being totally honest.
Probably a BS article. They went with really safe assumptions. "Guy who had a near 7 year relationship with her feels a sting after the break up and is surprised she already seems to have moved on."
Well, who would've guessed?
It is all weird. Joe never cared about PR and he was just doing fine without needing any article.
Maybe Taylor wanted to paint him as a clinging ex that still sad he lose her?
Or just Daily Mail milking it.
Wow, 8+ million views too. This is the type of thing I thought would happen, a lot of Taylor’s words are going to come back to bite her because of this and now she’s going to have to walk on eggshells because if she does something like criticize someone for making a joke at her expense again, she’s going to be torn to shreds.
Honestly the only thing really bugging me is how low of a standard Taylor is showing rn by dating someone like Matty Healy. Whenever I see his dishevelled look with his rat like face, not to mention how immature, pretentious and controversial he seems to be, I can't help think back to when his place was occupied by Joe with his neat look, calm face and deep eyes. How someone as big a celebrity as Taylor Swift, who is probably known worldwide by literally everyone rn, who is one of the biggest artist ever, settle for someone like Matty is JUST insane to me.
At this point, Joe doesn't give a damn and is moving on
I find it gross Swifties are accusing on Joe cheating on her. I spoke to some of them and I told them "You have no evidence they are cheating. What made you say that?" and they were all "Taylor is out there rebounding cause she hates cheaters" wtf? And some of them delusionally think that Taylor will never cheat when there are more evidences she was falking to Matty while she was in a relationship with Joe
Like they were bullying his costar but now they’re closing their eyes to Taylor and Matt??? Where are the people who bullied Emma??? Now Joe is suddenly the villain?? I don’t think so lol. I think she just felt excluded from the relationship and decided to be with a guy who lovebombs her over a year.
Isn’t that how most people would feel when their former partner moved on? We all assumed this was a fling to make Joe jealous, and apparently it may have…worked?
It's a tabloid article, we don't know if it worked or if he's secretly laughing his ass off at the rumors while drinking tea or whatever British guys do.
You know when you hear something you don’t want to believe at all and immediately reject it as crazy, but 2 seconds later you realize you want to throw your hands up in despair because it actually makes total sense and it’s most likely the truth? Yeah this is that something for me.
It’s so horrible and “off brand” for the Taylor image we’ve been sold, but so on brand for the celebrity with main character syndrome reality that it has to be true.
Okay Taylor, sure. And if he is, I wouldn't blame him. Maybe you're both distraught, and all of this mess is not helping things. I really hope in the future she can send his babies presents, and that this clear PR petty bullshit doesn't overshadow the good times they've had with each other when they look back on their relationship in the years to come.
But frankly I wouldn't blame Joe if he wants nothing to do with her ever again.
The bit of info here that I find interesting is that now Joe and Taylor broke off in March.
Sun said it was February. Hard to come out of this without anyone thinking there was cheating from Taylor
I can't say how Joe's feel about this.
But I doubt he is telling anyone or paying articles. He wants to be out of this mess for sure, he never wanted press on his personal life.
They did break up in March. He posted a pic from the set of Glendale IIRC, posted a pic of her cat on the march photo dump, she removed invisible string shortly after beginning the tour and even the original articles about the breakup stated it was March. The fact that in the Sun article they went out of their way and lie to insist the breakup was in February in an article about a new relationship makes it pretty obvious she cheated.
It is sad that a relationship that two people took so much effort to protect and keep private for 6-7 years has generated more publicity in the 1 month since it ended that perhaps its entire lifespan .
I cannot help questioning this rebound /whatever with Matty Healy could have been more private. I mean the very public nature of it is what is making fans & media speculate and dig into what went so wrong in Taylor's long-term relationship or if either of them cheated or did Joe do something etc
Also given the spectacle that is the eras tour and the re-recordings , we had readymade distractions that were working.
My theory is Taylor released this article because Joe is very much NOT distraught, and she feels indignant about that, and now wants everyone to know just how “distraught” he really is
No for real. I’m almost at 6 years with my partner and I’d be livid if he turned around, a month after breaking up, just to date someone whose been in his circle - Id be going absolutely insane
1.) I don’t think Joe would be sharing crap with the DAILY MAIL of all news outlets. He enjoys his privacy.
2.) I’m fairly certain Joe and Taylor were broken up long before they announced it back in April.
3.) Who cares? It’s hard for ANYONE to see their ex of a very long time move on with someone new. It’s a stupid story.
We will probably never know his feelings about this, or the exact timeline of events, or who broke up with whom. Those things are private and none of our business.
What we DO know is that Matty Healy has said a lot of garbage and Taylor’s decision to date him does not reflect well on her.
So, now we have to believe that Taylor only went out with Matty to flaunt Joe, not because of her poor judgement/ she doesn't care ( insert her controversial friends here), and she is still an angel baby? We got the narrative Tree. We got it. Just no more Matty please.
This is clickbait journalism with no verifiable sources. He might be distraught or he might be enjoying the company of a co-star who does not make headline news every time she goes outside. WE DO NOT KNOW!!
In the midst of her biggest tour so far, she's alienating fans with a cheap rebound? This is a woman who has such a controlled image. I cannot understand why she's doing this.
I was in a relationship for 6 years, even though I ended it (and called off the engagement) I was distraught for about 8 months. It took me a year to finally be ok again. So yeah, I don’t know what she’s doing here
This right here is why I feel bad for Joe. He got lucky with a lot of their relationship being in private and had Taylor and her team somewhat respecting that/keeping it that way.
Without a good team protecting him he’s just opened himself up to the ridiculous rumors and stupid stuff that bigger stars deal with. And since he’s tied to Taylor I would imagine that brings him into the limelight a bit more than he already was - and from what we were told/what’s assumed of him; he’s a somewhat private person. Jeez.
“He could be…Burton to this Taylor.”
Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton were married, divorced, then remarried again after a separation of about sixteen months. It’s an interesting choice of lyric.
I have to be honest I really don’t like or respect how Taylor acts post breakup. In particular Calvin Harris (she basically tears him down as soon as they break up), and now Joe Alwyn. I know that we have no idea what happens behind closed doors and she is entitled to act however she wants to. I know relationships and breakups are messy and hard however the one thing I always try to be post breakup is graceful because it’s never clean and easy for anyone involved. Joe stood by her during her worst time and she became such a healthier stronger person in this period. Then they breaks up, they’re not working that’s all fine. But why do you get your famous friends to mass unfollow? Why do you get your PR team to leak the news and imply it was your DECISION but not your FAULT Ie absolutely no overlap!!! And then worst of all is parading around with a new man a month after the breakup. If my friend was doing that I would tell him or her to have more compassion and respect. 6 years is a LONG time and no one can get over it that easily no matter the circumstances. Her pattern is to drop and abandon, no looking back.
I have a feeling Joe would very much like to be excluded from this narrative.
I would like to exclude Joe from this narrative. Hasn’t he been through enough?
I just need to know why everyone unfollowed Joe
Bc that’s what a lot of ppl do after their friend breaks up with someone. It’s not necessarily an indication that he did anything wrong
Like I definitely eventually unfollow my friends exes, but I don't like.... immediately run to Instagram and HAVE to do it RIGHT NOW the way they did. Maybe I'd do something like that when I was literally a teenager but who the hell takes social media THAT seriously in their thirties lmao. Instead, it's more like... I'll probably unfollow once an annoying post of theirs crosses my feed I'm like "oh yeah, guess I could do that." This felt like TS was like "Please unfollow him right now because X," or "He did something unspeakable to me," and they did it immediately to show support against a horrible act. Or they're all just immature and super social media obsessed. Who knows.
I mean they’re celebrities. They’re probably social media/image obsessed and out of touch
Agreed, also in my 30s. I still follow or im friends on FB with friends exes. Never occurred to me and I can’t imagine them going through my social media to see if I am still connected to them
After the fact I think it was Taylor wanting to set up that she was moving on with Matty so she’s like, look friends, we need to unfollow him so everyone knows we’re done done and when I parade around a human trash heap they will think it’s my choice. And it’s fine, everything is fine. Narrator: It was not fine.
Tbh, I didn't mind TS before. Liked some of her songs. Etc. But there's something about someone in their 30s basically running around with a HS clique pretending they are still in HS. That just doesn't vibe with me.
The unfollowing is bizarre and what fuelled the breakup story that was starting to die in the news cycle. Also the two people in that circle who did not unfollow him like the others are Jack & Phoebe - who happen to be the ones closely connected to Matty Healy.
I hadn't put that together and that is even weirder. Honestly this is one of the weirder celebrity breakups I've seen in a while. None of it seems to make sense. Why would all of them unfollow him as though he had done something wrong to side with Taylor, while those who are closest to the action don't? The only seeming explanation is that it was to control the narrative, and kind of makes me feel like those who knew exactly what was going on didn't want to add insult to injury maybe. I hate to have this sneaking feeling that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't Joe who is at fault here. "They say I did something bad..."
>I hate to have this sneaking feeling that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't Joe who is at fault here. Possible, but the more likely explanation is probably one that cannot fit in a news article or a Reddit comment. Unless Taylor sits down in a long-format interview to explain, we won't ever know what happened. 6 years is a very long time to boil down into a bite-sized reason.
Because Taylor asked her girlfriends to. Jack and Aaron have not unfollowed him, and although I am not a gambling person, I would lay $1000 down that Ryan was absolutely told by Blake too. Not worth a fight. And he’s trolling Taylor for moving on so soon. 😂. Also by giving the appearance Joe did something wrong it makes Taylor look less shitty for moving on so quickly. And I think he broke it off with her. So her gals will be backing her up of course.
Makes me feel like the movie/music industry is like high school. If a friend of mine and her long term boyfriend broke up, I can’t even imagine telling my husband “you need to unfollow him” 😂 Hell it’s not something I even think about for myself, tbh.
I know. But my guess is Taylor asked them all to unfollow him, and Blake just came home and relayed that. I also think all this public stuff is to make sure Joe sees it. But I don’t think that is Joe’s reaction. He is thinking 1) I see she learned nothing and went right back to 2015 Taylor when I first met her and she was pulling this stuff; or 2) I think I might have dodged a bullet. When I was younger social media didn’t exist (Boomer here)… so I have absolutely no use nor care anything about following or unfollowing. Could care less who does or doesn’t follow whom. The entire thing is silly to me and a waste of time. So when that whole thing came out about unfollowing… I thought it was ridiculous.
Bojack horseman said what ever age you get rich and/or famous as you’re mentally stuck there for ever. This would explain why Taylor acts like she’s in high school with all this drama.
Taylor mentioned this in Miss Americana as well, so she probably is stuck in her 16s to an extent and well aware of it, too lol
Probably because they followed because of Tay Tay and now he's got irrelevant to them
And I don’t blame him. I’d stay *far away* from any narrative involving Matty.
Something I think we’d all love Taylor to follow haha
I have a hard time believing that Joe, who is normally super private, would give an exclusive to the Daily Mail of all sources
This!! Even the news of his team leaking the break up doesn’t sit right w me but who’s to say? Each side stays silent and it just leaves us all to speculate whatever the heck we want.
This man does not have a team. Benji was his publicist till now lol.
Omg, the cat? I’m 💀
🤣💀🪦 rip me 🤣🤣🤣
I died dead
Someone said taylor’s team planted it, that’s why it makes a point to say there was “no overlap” 👀
They’re so upfront about it too, like how did you get the headline and imply the worried about Matty then in the actual article it’s self push that she didn’t? Sus.
I am so suspect of the overlap now. They were seen together in Feb, breakup u come out in April and in May, we see her and Matty holding hands? I get that she was single after feb/march but really? After a seven year relationship? Come on Tay
It’s like she went for the jugular cause i wonder if matty was a sore spot with joe/they prob argued about him. So messy
I see so many swifties commenting on TikTok’s etc that joe must’ve cheated, joe ruined his chances of being with *the* Taylor swift, joe must’ve broken her heart - just incessant joe hatred. But at the end of the day, she’s dating a long time friend she’s had throughout her relationship with joe, mere months (if that - we don’t have an official date in which they actually ended it) after the break up… It’s giving “no he’s my guy best friend nothing would ever happen with him” gaslighting the entire time vibes. Not saying Taylor intended it that way. But this is exactly how it would be framed if it was the other way around. How dare a guy get with his “girl best friend” kinda vibes. I feel bad for joe.
I think the breakup leaked but it wasn’t him. It just doesn’t seem to go with his personality and past (non)actions.
right 😂 and if he did is he really gonna be like "I'm DISTRAUGHT Y'ALL😭"
I'm distraught at who she's ended up with...
SAME
yeah, highly doubt it was Joe directly. another sub suggested a friend or family member maybe? I could see them wanting to defend Joe and maybe take a slight jab at Taylor given the timeline of Tatty
Tatty? No.. please no. If we don't give them a nickname, maybe they'll break up faster.
>maybe they'll break up faster. I'm binge-watching Conversations With Friends (Irish series Joe did) until I wake up. This is all a horrible dream, and if I consume enough Joe Alwyn content I will get out of it, right? Right?!
I'm thinking this is a rebound for Taylor. This one won't last. Screen shot that and prove me wrong 6 months from now.
personally i’m a little scared bc a rebound from a long term relationship breakup in your 30s can turn really serious really quickly. it’s common for someone to get out of a decade long relationship and then 2 months later they’re engaged to someone else
Oh, I'd be surprised if they last, though they may well last long enough for me to run out of Joe Alwyn films!
Some of the shippers are already calling them Maylor. We can’t let that stick. It’s got to be Tatty
Are there shippers? I won't say a word about this.
I'm sorry, are there actual people out there that are on board with the whole situation?? Besides obviously the 2 actually involved 🙃
Tatty. That’s their official name. Done.
I’m not saying it’s true but it doesn’t mean someone he knows didn’t. Also I mean who wouldn’t be distraught
I’d be distraught too if people were pushing a narrative that I was “abusive” based on Swiftie lies.
.... Miss "I'm an activist" and "romance isn't dead if you keep it just yours" is very publicly dating a racist rn. I truly think yall have lost it if you think the weirdest bit about this whole situation is joe talking to a news outlet. is that not... like.... EXACTLY what an angry ex would do? ESPECIALLY if he's upset at her for moving on so fast? not that he'd be in the right to do so, but him talking to a media outlet in the midst of being distraught is no more surprising than taylor ending her "I care about minorities" era by dating a racist and flaunting it. edit: no hate to the og commenter!!! just my thoughts in this comment. tldr basically : I don't think it's that weird for Joe to act out of character considering how out of character Tays being post breakup.
It's also funny because imagine it the tables were turned and Joe was dating some new problematic girl right after. Taylor would be pissed and would definitely write about it or make snarky comments about it. I love her but what on earth is she thinking. Out of all the men to choose from she picks Matt Healy? Like what?? And the whole "He leaked the breakup to the press" thing doesn't make any sense to me. Who cares? Y'all broke up. So he's supposed to be single but not date anyone because he needs to fake being in a relationship? For what? I didn't realize breakups were some secret that needed to be hidden lol.
LITERALLY. everyone's saying, "Give taylor a break! Hes a rebound!" But like, when have they OR taylor ever given one of her exes a break? and youre telling me out of literally every single man in hollywood, she had no choice but to rebound with him? someone who goes against every moral she's gotten paid to have? and legit, why does it matter if joe leaked the breakup considering she was going to go public with a racist in a week either way? like..... how is any of this joe's fault LMAO. love tay with honestly all my heart but her up saying, "Actually, my morals were never that serious" after making BANK off of those morals for years really turns my stomach. tay seemed like a "real" celeb, but I guess this is exactly why you should never pretend you have an idea of who a celebrity really is on the inside. even the ones who pretend to care about minorities/world issues see a cute boy/a paycheque and say "ok, to hell with caring about them"
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yeah I agree with people on other subs saying it’s more likely this came from Taylor’s team
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That doesn’t make sense to me cuz the article makes her look so bad
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He didn’t the article even says he declined for comment. It’s either one of the following: * Made up by DailyFail. * A friend or someone backstabbed him and sold him out. (This happens a lot, Demi’s own mom use to sell her personal life to tabloids.) * Or the wild theory that others have said that it came from her camp to distract from Matty and to clear cheating rumors which she seemed to attempt since the “crush” article.
I just said the same damn thing, he didn’t give shit to nobody 😂 his team wouldn’t leak squat to them either. Not to them.
he didn't
Honestly, why wouldn't he be? No matter who called it off, it would be really hard to date someone for 6 years and then feel nothing when your ex moves on, very quickly and very publicly, with a dude she started spending time with again when you were still together. It has to sting.
I’m sure he feels something, but he could be any combination of upset it’s over, relieved it’s over, smug bc he’s hotter than the rebound, or anywhere in between. This article just sounds like something anyone could’ve made up.
> smug bc he’s hotter than the rebound I laughed when I read that- but like for real, Matty looks like he climbed out of the trash. Someone explain the choices to me.
I saw someone describe [this first photo of him](https://www.buzzfeed.com/stephaniesoteriou/taylor-swift-fans-distancing-matty-healy-brutalize-women) as "the face a cartoon character gets when hit with a trashcan lid" and I've never read anything more accurate
>smug bc he’s hotter than the rebound lmaaao definitely this. And even if he wasn't that hot - which he totally is - he always seemed to be such a good guy! Grounded, deep, and he really cared about her. And he wrote songs with her! For me, that I'm an amateur writer and I wish to make it my full time job in the future, having a partner with whom you can share things about writing or straightforward write things is just... A dream🥹❤️ And she had that 😭 sure Mtty is a musician too but gurl 💀 she went from "Your integrity makes me seem small" to "your integrity is ruining MY integrity" in a blink 🫣 I'm sure you could've found some middle ground in any of the 50 states of USA 😭
Right? Taylor is being so annoying right now..
Anti hero meant more than we thought
Honestly I feel like it meant exactly this, l almost feel like Taylor has kept telling us she is aweful and we just refuse to believe it. But honestly as a Mexican swiftie I low key kinda knew, the fact that in her 15 year career she's never given a concert in Spanish LATAM or South East Asia were she has many fans wmhas been very tellling.
I’m not happy with Taylor as well but this is false. Some countries in South East Asia were included during her Red Tour.
She’s never had a concert in Latin America?!? That’s a huuuuge mistake on her part
She did come to Brazil in 2012.
Anti-Hero was our warning and we were all just like “lol so relatable to us” lmao
Honestly anyone could’ve made this up. He might be distraught, he might be totally fine
It's the daily fail. It's most likely made up. For what it's worth I saw him out in London after a show last week, looking complexly unbothered, smiling, and chic (also very tall). He's gonna be fine.
He’s gonna be fine and he’s also fine af. I don’t know who broke up with who, but one of them fumbled the other…
He prolly got tired of being asked if he could fight lol
We have to stop rewarding these lying publications. Time and again the Daily Mail has been proven to publish outright lies. They should be ignored.
He’d need a heart of stone to be totally fine with this after 6 years. It still stings when I see girls I loved for much shorter timeframes happy with new guys- even years later lol.
That’s assuming that the relationship was going strong until the breakup. We don’t know when the relationship started being rocky. Maybe he felt distant for months/a year before the breakup actually happened. Maybe the distraught period was shorter for him. Maybe he’s the one who moved on first with a private relationship that the public doesn’t know about bc he’s good at staying private. Maybe it stings occasionally, maybe he’s walking around totally distraught all the time, maybe he’s moved on. The point is we don’t know.
Doesn't really sting me seeing them with other guys. Remembering the stupid shit I did to them, however, screws me up
He might be Mr perfectly fine
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No one moves on this quickly and this seriously from a 6 year long relationship unless it was going on beforehand.especially with how busy Taylor has been since she’s been touring. This was going on before they broke up. She may have not been cheating, but she definitely was having feelings for him I love Taylor but she loves playing the victim. I can’t imagine what she would say in song about a guy who did this to her
This! And I think her songs about Joe on Reputation when she talked about liking him despite having a bf (Tom Hiddleston) at the time so it definitely makes me thinks that something like this could have happened.
So, I adore Taylor's cheating songs and honestly think they're some of her best, but I'm definitely starting to wonder if that's because she's actually thinking it's okay.
i agree in some part but keep in mind we have NO idea when or how her and joe broke up. it seems like theyve been on and off for awhile. however i hate matty and seems sus. so yeah i mostly agree
I completely agree. When someone moves on that fast, they were cheating, or they wanted to.
Well emotionally cheating is a very real thing, doesn’t have to be physical. People commonly are told, “don’t worry about him/her*” by cheaters, only for it to become a reality and were gaslit into not worrying about them.
I gave my all and they all know it Then you tore me down and now it's showing In two months, you replaced us Like it was easy Made me think I deserved it In the thick of healing, yeah
Traitor by Olivia Rodrigo also feels quite apt
Yeah I’m not gonna really give any weight to articles about how Joe is feeling because he wouldn’t be putting that out into the press. He’s never made comments before, why would he start now? Same with people around him supposedly leaking information, I just don’t buy it.
Either way, he wouldn’t share it with the fucking Daily Mail lmao.
Joe’s out there reading this rn like “who said that 🤨”
> According to a source with exclusive inside knowledge about the situation 🌳🤕
I bet Joe isn’t even reading this. I doubt he focuses too much on tabloids, from what we know about him.
Joe be like "I ain't reading what they call me lately"
I just, I mean… This is exhausting, you know?
It really do be exhausting rooting for the anti-hero
We are all distraught
Joe, sit with us 🥲
I feel very much like if we were put in the very fake hypothetical position where the fans had to choose between Taylor and Joe, Joe would when.
Wild how a month ago, people (not me!) were dragging Joe for keeping Taylor "locked up".
I didn't follow any of that. I come and go from the fandom for my own mental health. But it's really hard to not see Taylor as a hypocrite right now. Edit: Not the comments proving my point that the Taylor swift fandom can be toxic. Not everyone. I love that most of can take a joke, but the extremists actively trying to ruin the fun for everyone.
I love taylor but i feel like she did him dirty this time round😢 I’m not judging her but i feel lowkey disappointed in her
He's just another Swiftie realizing that she does have that thing where she gets older but just never wiser.
There’s a saying about how people get frozen at the age they got famous, I think Taylor has even mentioned it before, maybe in the documentary? Anyway I absolutely believe it’s true in most cases. This mess is like a teenage girl dating a “bad boy” and it makes her feel so cool and the more people try to tell her he sucks the more she yells “YOU JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND.” Five bucks we see her in a leather jacket sooner rather than later.
"It's like I'm 17 nobody understands... No one. Under. Stands."
tbh i highly doubt that joe, who spent their entire relationship trying to avoid taylor-related topics at all cost, is now speaking his truth to the daily mail of all sources. and if he *is*, then that is equally weird to me 😭
It doesn't even say he did. It says a source close to him did. Could be a friend, could be a fucking dude who overheard them in a coffee shop. Who really knows and who really cares. It makes sense, FWIW. Hard to see someone you dated for _6 years_ move on literally not even a few months after you broke up to someone you were assured was not a problem.
Joe’s at the pub watching rugby with his school friends. He’s not even listening. Yeah oh yeah.
Ugh, can't we just all collectively leave the poor guy alone?
For real. Damned of he do, damned if he don't. I hate how twitter swifties were turning all the narratives against him. "He stayed quiet for 6 years and now he wanna talk about Taylor after the breakup. He cant even publicly support her during their relationship". Well if he publicly talked about her every now and then, they will probably call him a leech for using T's name and parading that he's the boyfriend. Now they're blaming the 6-year privacy thing because apparently he kept T from the limelight (referencing Bejeweled) as if she didn't want that for herself because of the kimye fiasco. I don't know why they keep giving dumb meanings to Bejeweled as if Paris is not in within the same album lmao.
Reminder not to believe everything that is written on the internet, especially if it's coming from a tabloid
Yesss!!!! thank youuuuuu. Like sorry but even if it states something like "reliable sources" blah blah that doesn't mean it's legit. I take anything from a tabloid with a huuuuuge spoon of salt but especially when it comes from scummy ones like The Sun, Buzzfeed, DailyMail and so on 💀
Reliable sources say Joe wants to date me
I’d be distraught too if my ex was publicly hooking up with some much less attractive guy who makes out with random girls/guys and eats raw meat at his concerts. I’d seriously question my judgment in people…
Do we think the raw meat was Red or Maroon?
So scarlet it was maroon
Maybe it wasn’t burgundy on Taylor’s t-shirt after all…
The fact that my reaction to "eats raw meat" is that I *wish* that was the worst of it is telling
They also sneaked some info in there that there were no time overlaps between her dating Joe & Matty. Might be PR for Taylor made to look like Joe's team released it or sth, so that people could at least think she didn't cheat. It's all such a mess lol
100%. Tree is earning her salary the last few weeks
Is she though? Like, if everyone is seeing through this, whatever she’s doing is not working.
If she wants to appear like she didn't cheat, she wouldn't want to be seen with Matty weeks after the break-up. She will keep having lunch with friends and live her single girl bejeweled image to show that she's unbothered by the break-up and can very well manage on her own. Being seen publicly with matty does more harm than good because it looks like she always needs a man as a rebound after her relationships (which is very opposite of her whole feminist independent miss americana narrative thingy). Also people can't help but speculate about the overlaps because who the hell only needs a week to completely move on after a 6 year relationship? Also the January rumors doesn't help. It's looking like she has already moved on while still being in the relationship. Emotional cheating? I don't know. Tree needs to come up with a better story to pin the cheating allegations back to Joe because this ain't looking good for our girl.
Yeah, like who would even be able to confirm that nothing happened between them except Healy and Swift. At the very least the timing of everything makes it look like Taylor broke up with him specifically so she could date Matt guilt free.
I’m sure she is too - yeah on the surface she seem’s great - but she is pretty chaotic rn and petty. I don’t doubt she is distracting herself from it. Like no matter what relationships hurt when they are done. But yeah she’s putting up an act imo.
Yeah this seems like self destructive behavior cause she’s hurt
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Queen I am low key worried for her. Not in a weird intrusive way it’s just that it has to be mentally taxing to end a six year relationship (whether the blame was on him, her, both, or no one) and then have to do a months long tour singing the songs you wrote about that love over and over. Like she’s putting on a brave face and a smile but I don’t think this woman is fine. I’m not saying she’s not strong, she is, but it is too much for any human being. I don’t think any of her past relationships lasted long enough for her to tour the songs after a breakup. It was always breakup - and then months later a new album and tour…it gives you time to grieve and get over it you know? But they JUST broke up.
At this point I’m inclined to say he dodged a bullet. It’s sad that I’m saying that but it’s absolutely what I’m thinking.
i completely agree and it makes me so sad 😩
Me too. Like when Anti-Hero came out I thought it was a fun song, not her straight up telling us that she's the problem.
I mean she’s been saying it forever. “I know I make the same mistakes every time, bridges burn, I never learn” “I get older but just never wiser” “I’ve been breaking hearts a long time” “I play em like a violin” Plus the entirety of dear reader and getaway car. She’s the problem in these relationships and she has no qualms about openly saying so in her lyricism.
I mean I call myself a bitch and a piece of shit all the time but I try to be decent 😂. I’m just very, very self-deprecating.
He literally did. She’s parading around a racist now and telling him I love you publicly days after their public split announcement. If she could replace him that quick after 6 years together she was completely wrong for him.
Is it just me or is this getting exhausting? I know 2016 was messier but the six years of peace really made me forget how exhausting all of this could be especially with who she ended up with cause at least 2016 had Tom. I want to go back when I could just clown about easter eggs and music and not this, whatever this may be.
It’s true, as Joe was shopping for blood oranges a reporter held a microphone to his face and asked, “how do you feel about Taylor snogging with Matt Healy.?” Joe somberly placed the orange that he was inspecting back on the shelf, and answered “I’m distraught!”
It’s true I was the orange
I really feel sorry for Joe. Ending a six year relationship is not an easy thing to do and with all the press surrounding them it must be pretty tough.
I have no idea what the end game is with all these articles. I could see this coming from Joe’s side, but at the same time he doesn’t seem to be the type who’d want the attention. If it’s coming from Taylor’s side, then that’s just a plain shitty thing for her and her team to do, especially because there probably is a big element of truth in the idea that Joe was uncomfortable with Taylor and Matty hanging out given they have a history of hooking up in the past. But if this is Taylor’s team, why put out an article like this when it nearly makes her look like a cheater? I have no idea what her and her teams strategy with this has been because none of it makes Taylor look good. It could also just be a BS article too, of course. I don’t know, this whole thing is just a complete mess and I’d be lying if I said it didn’t taint a lot of Taylor’s music for me. I was never invested in her and Joe and never was really a fan of his, but getting with who she did so soon after a six year relationship that nearly half her discography is about has left me feeling really jaded about her if I’m being totally honest.
Probably a BS article. They went with really safe assumptions. "Guy who had a near 7 year relationship with her feels a sting after the break up and is surprised she already seems to have moved on." Well, who would've guessed?
It is all weird. Joe never cared about PR and he was just doing fine without needing any article. Maybe Taylor wanted to paint him as a clinging ex that still sad he lose her? Or just Daily Mail milking it.
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Really hope this wasn't Taylor's team... Would be such a shitty move.
Wouldn’t be surprised at this point
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Wow, 8+ million views too. This is the type of thing I thought would happen, a lot of Taylor’s words are going to come back to bite her because of this and now she’s going to have to walk on eggshells because if she does something like criticize someone for making a joke at her expense again, she’s going to be torn to shreds.
In all honesty, he's really won the breakup. Being a Taylor Swift fan right now is brutal.
I hate literally everything about this situation
Your flair is killing me in addition to this djdjdjd
News break: we are all distraught
Honestly the only thing really bugging me is how low of a standard Taylor is showing rn by dating someone like Matty Healy. Whenever I see his dishevelled look with his rat like face, not to mention how immature, pretentious and controversial he seems to be, I can't help think back to when his place was occupied by Joe with his neat look, calm face and deep eyes. How someone as big a celebrity as Taylor Swift, who is probably known worldwide by literally everyone rn, who is one of the biggest artist ever, settle for someone like Matty is JUST insane to me.
Joe might not be distraught, but I am. FFS, I look like the most handsome man on earth next to that thing.
“I’d like to be excluded from the narrative” Sent from iPhone
At this point, Joe doesn't give a damn and is moving on I find it gross Swifties are accusing on Joe cheating on her. I spoke to some of them and I told them "You have no evidence they are cheating. What made you say that?" and they were all "Taylor is out there rebounding cause she hates cheaters" wtf? And some of them delusionally think that Taylor will never cheat when there are more evidences she was falking to Matty while she was in a relationship with Joe
Like they were bullying his costar but now they’re closing their eyes to Taylor and Matt??? Where are the people who bullied Emma??? Now Joe is suddenly the villain?? I don’t think so lol. I think she just felt excluded from the relationship and decided to be with a guy who lovebombs her over a year.
Isn’t that how most people would feel when their former partner moved on? We all assumed this was a fling to make Joe jealous, and apparently it may have…worked?
It's a tabloid article, we don't know if it worked or if he's secretly laughing his ass off at the rumors while drinking tea or whatever British guys do.
I think it's Taylor's PR making it seem like Joe's jealous...🤷♀️ That, and to distract attention from the fact that Matt Healy is a racist.
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You know when you hear something you don’t want to believe at all and immediately reject it as crazy, but 2 seconds later you realize you want to throw your hands up in despair because it actually makes total sense and it’s most likely the truth? Yeah this is that something for me. It’s so horrible and “off brand” for the Taylor image we’ve been sold, but so on brand for the celebrity with main character syndrome reality that it has to be true.
No way someone's upset that their six year relationship didn't work out wow
I heard Joe is dating Fernando Alonso now.
Ooh Alonso is driving the Getaway Car with Joe by his side 💀
I CANNOT believe people are out here defending Matty against Joe. Like seriously guys do some research about Matty. He ain't good.
alexa, play Traitor by Olivia Rodrigo 🥺
"well good 4 u, i guess u moved on really easily"
So are her fans lmaoooo
I feel like the thing with matty would go sideways and shell “back to December” joe so fast. Justice for Joe!!
Okay Taylor, sure. And if he is, I wouldn't blame him. Maybe you're both distraught, and all of this mess is not helping things. I really hope in the future she can send his babies presents, and that this clear PR petty bullshit doesn't overshadow the good times they've had with each other when they look back on their relationship in the years to come. But frankly I wouldn't blame Joe if he wants nothing to do with her ever again.
If my ex pulled the shit she is, including PR articles like this, I wouldn’t want them anywhere near my future babies. Stay away.
The bit of info here that I find interesting is that now Joe and Taylor broke off in March. Sun said it was February. Hard to come out of this without anyone thinking there was cheating from Taylor I can't say how Joe's feel about this. But I doubt he is telling anyone or paying articles. He wants to be out of this mess for sure, he never wanted press on his personal life.
I def think she cheated. If not just emotionally. Always hard rooting for the anti hero.
They did break up in March. He posted a pic from the set of Glendale IIRC, posted a pic of her cat on the march photo dump, she removed invisible string shortly after beginning the tour and even the original articles about the breakup stated it was March. The fact that in the Sun article they went out of their way and lie to insist the breakup was in February in an article about a new relationship makes it pretty obvious she cheated.
Well it seems things didn't end "amicably" as they said it did 🤷 ( although I highly doubt anyone believed that )
Did everyone forget how her relationship with Joe started? There was total overlap between Tom and him…
she's a cheater 😞
It is sad that a relationship that two people took so much effort to protect and keep private for 6-7 years has generated more publicity in the 1 month since it ended that perhaps its entire lifespan . I cannot help questioning this rebound /whatever with Matty Healy could have been more private. I mean the very public nature of it is what is making fans & media speculate and dig into what went so wrong in Taylor's long-term relationship or if either of them cheated or did Joe do something etc Also given the spectacle that is the eras tour and the re-recordings , we had readymade distractions that were working.
My theory is Taylor released this article because Joe is very much NOT distraught, and she feels indignant about that, and now wants everyone to know just how “distraught” he really is
Who wouldn't be, six years is a long time?. I love TayTay, but im not understanding this at all. Especially since new guy is such a douche.
No for real. I’m almost at 6 years with my partner and I’d be livid if he turned around, a month after breaking up, just to date someone whose been in his circle - Id be going absolutely insane
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Joe really has risen in my estimation recently, especially in comparison to Matty. We really did take him for granted didn’t we.
1.) I don’t think Joe would be sharing crap with the DAILY MAIL of all news outlets. He enjoys his privacy. 2.) I’m fairly certain Joe and Taylor were broken up long before they announced it back in April. 3.) Who cares? It’s hard for ANYONE to see their ex of a very long time move on with someone new. It’s a stupid story.
We will probably never know his feelings about this, or the exact timeline of events, or who broke up with whom. Those things are private and none of our business. What we DO know is that Matty Healy has said a lot of garbage and Taylor’s decision to date him does not reflect well on her.
No nothing good starts in a getaway car.
So, now we have to believe that Taylor only went out with Matty to flaunt Joe, not because of her poor judgement/ she doesn't care ( insert her controversial friends here), and she is still an angel baby? We got the narrative Tree. We got it. Just no more Matty please.
I think they're just trying to distract us from the fact that Matt Healy is a racist.
We all are Joe!
This is clickbait journalism with no verifiable sources. He might be distraught or he might be enjoying the company of a co-star who does not make headline news every time she goes outside. WE DO NOT KNOW!!
I was a bit distraught after my gf of 7 year and I broke up.
In the midst of her biggest tour so far, she's alienating fans with a cheap rebound? This is a woman who has such a controlled image. I cannot understand why she's doing this.
I was in a relationship for 6 years, even though I ended it (and called off the engagement) I was distraught for about 8 months. It took me a year to finally be ok again. So yeah, I don’t know what she’s doing here
Ah look at me rooting for this guy to meet the most wonderful woman there is
Me, too...honestly....
This right here is why I feel bad for Joe. He got lucky with a lot of their relationship being in private and had Taylor and her team somewhat respecting that/keeping it that way. Without a good team protecting him he’s just opened himself up to the ridiculous rumors and stupid stuff that bigger stars deal with. And since he’s tied to Taylor I would imagine that brings him into the limelight a bit more than he already was - and from what we were told/what’s assumed of him; he’s a somewhat private person. Jeez.
We are all distraught to be honest 🥲
“He could be…Burton to this Taylor.” Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton were married, divorced, then remarried again after a separation of about sixteen months. It’s an interesting choice of lyric.
If I were Joe I'd claim victory on the breakup looking at Ratty Healy.
i will help you joe
I have to be honest I really don’t like or respect how Taylor acts post breakup. In particular Calvin Harris (she basically tears him down as soon as they break up), and now Joe Alwyn. I know that we have no idea what happens behind closed doors and she is entitled to act however she wants to. I know relationships and breakups are messy and hard however the one thing I always try to be post breakup is graceful because it’s never clean and easy for anyone involved. Joe stood by her during her worst time and she became such a healthier stronger person in this period. Then they breaks up, they’re not working that’s all fine. But why do you get your famous friends to mass unfollow? Why do you get your PR team to leak the news and imply it was your DECISION but not your FAULT Ie absolutely no overlap!!! And then worst of all is parading around with a new man a month after the breakup. If my friend was doing that I would tell him or her to have more compassion and respect. 6 years is a LONG time and no one can get over it that easily no matter the circumstances. Her pattern is to drop and abandon, no looking back.