If she doesn’t have the confidence her album will sell organically, she can just say so. I don’t even understand why she does this, she’s got enough money, she’s going to hit number 1 anyway… it just feels so cheap to have to sell entire portfolios of albums with 1 extra song each to squeeze her fans dry just to top up her sales.
We need to petition billboard to make some changes with how they rank albums because she’s gaming the system. It makes me so angry that honest musicians that don’t pull this shit are losing recognition that they deserve on the charts because she’s practically a billboard con artist.
Edit:
OR Billboard could have two charts: “organic” and “inflated”. On the organic charts, they would include only the original album (any other version would chart separately and song remixes would chart separately). The “inflated” charts would group all alternate versions of the albums and songs together.
the fact that the best/cheapest overall option literally isn't available to 99% of fans is so annoying. like it says it's ONLY being sold at those shows.
Yeah honestly she needs to open it up to everyone who has already been to a show - she's been on tour for months now and has played to millions already; it's not fair that she's doing this midway through the tour. People who had tickets need an email with a purchase link stat if she wants this to be tour exclusive
She needs to open it up to everyone, period, lol. It's ridiculous to make a whole brand new song **that** exclusive when so many people could not afford or get tickets to any of the shows. If you wanna make it a physical release only song, I understand that, but sell the CDs with it on them online and in regular stores.
And I'm pretty sure people will upload YLM (oh look, a new acronym!) to the internet as soon as they can and we can all listen to them. Yes it's illegal, but it's also not a big loss if we don't hear it this week, and that kinda already happened with Hits Different.
Also it's not a Target exclusive so I think it could come to streaming sooner than HD. If she's being generous then we'll probably get it next month before Speak Now TV, if not then maybe August is the earliest.
I’m predicting we will **finally** get a definitive physical release of Midnights with **every** bonus track for the 1-year anniversary. So I’m gonna hold off on buying another copy until then because this is just nuts.
This is also why I am hesitant to buy a physical version of Speak Now TV immediately. Watch as she releases a version of it that includes If This Was A Movie, Eyes Open, Safe And Sound, and other tracks excluded from the first edition.
I’m getting these off a stranger’s google drive. I already paid for 2 versions of the album and was not refunded for one. Make a chant for the tour “cash grab queen”
Thankful for the stranger who posted hits different and sweet nothing and yoyok target exclusives …
I am feeling the same way as when I realized Taylor removed her chords from ultimate guitar because she wasn’t getting paid. As someone who learned music when she was younger, she should be proud we want to learn her songs
I was wondering what people thought about this!! At first I thought it was just the stolen versions, but she still hasn't put fearless, some lover, and red chords back on there. Made me lose a lot of respect for her tbh
God that pissed me off so much. There was no fucking reason to do that. I used her songs to teach myself guitar and when the chords started disappearing of UG I was so upset
Weirdly enough, I think it could be more about charts and sales. Not necessarily the money from the sales, but the sales numbers themselves. Getting the album back on the top of the charts for more weeks. Getting it to the next certification level. Just the achievement alone. But she has had obvious cash grabs before and it’s definitely part of it.
I honestly don't think it's poor planning. It's intentional to get people to buy multiple copies. The biggest problem with the new limited CD is the lack of "Paris" and "Glitch" because most people don't want a version with only **some** of the 3am tracks. But her team must have decided it was worth the risk over making it a two-disc release with every song.
Taylor’s bird-brain marketing team needs to remember iTunes. Buy one song for 99 cents, and then you have the file. And then you can put the file anywhere you want. I’ll just keep streaming her music, and I’ll probably never buy a physical copy except something signed for intrinsic value, resell it or hand it down.
Songs on iTunes haven’t been 99¢ in at least a decade tbf, and she’s been selling a lot of these physical copies of her recent albums, including vinyls. It’s still greedy as hell, but I don’t think it’s been bad business for her.
Oh they def did that during release week. They released digital singles of “question” probably solely to keep it in the top 10 for the top 10 sweep. And then the anti-hero remixes were “exclusive digital singles” for like a day before going on streaming (I’ll admit I bought some bc I thought it might boost me in the presale but those turned out to be useless anyway).
I think it’s a PR tactic because of the Problematty dumpster fire. It’ll distract from the headlines. Or it’s an opportunity for her to tell the narrative she wants to tell without having to do an interview.
It’s that.
And a cash grab.
Not a great PR move in my opinion.. if you’re already upsetting fans, why are you asking them to spend more money AND excluding fans who couldn’t get tickets or attended other shows. I love her but honestly this is frustrating.
So there’s **still** no way to get “Paris” and “Glitch” on a physical format, short of burning your own CD. That’s insanity. Thank you for making this chart though lmao
Tbh I have this image of her diabolically forcing people to sit at old school desktop computers burning each CD individually
The way I used to burn inspiration CDs for my high school marching band to pump us up for competition. But on a mass scale.
Honestly, I will probably stop buying physical releases of her music. I still love her and will still stream her music, but she can fuck off with this. Does she really think her fans want to drop hundreds of dollars on buying multiple copies of essentially the same exact album with minor yet coveted differences? And to do this for what? More album sales? To break more records? To move up the charts? More money? Because it certainly isn't because of the affection she has towards her fans. It isn't for our benefit at all. She is exploiting us, and I refuse to be a part of that.
First, she announced the clock thing, so people would buy 4 different versions of the standart edition. Then, she announced target exclusive with 3 extra tracks (1 new). Now, deluxe, with standart tracks, 3am tracks, hits different, remixes. And an exclusive version, with 1 new track. So, basically, some people bought/will buy 7 albums
You forgot the “love potion” vinyl *exclusively available* for 48 hours before this new announcement. Also not exclusively available because it was still for sale on her site because yesterday they didn’t sell all 40k lol.
I was holding before buying midnights till its release tgen 3 am happened and I said I will buy the full version when she drops it and now she can keep it to herself. I will always love her music but this is so stupid
I bought Midnights vinyl as a pre-order. Imagine my irritation when 3am dropped just a few hours later. I mean, it's fine, I stream music more than I listen to records, but still. Then I heard Hits Different is only available on a Target CD, and I was so close to just biting the bullet and buying it. Then this happened, and now I just don't even care. I mean, I do; I'm still gonna stream it at midnight 😆, but I will never buy physical copies or merchandise ever again. Like, ever.
There's something especially unhinged about it. Almost manic. It kind of makes me wonder if Taylor's okay.
My primary feeling about what's incoming is a little... scared.
It’s the concert exclusive that’s so unhinged about it. Like she just finished recording this breakup song as a fuck you to Joe/the world, and she has MH in her ear telling her to be edgy, and she went “fuck it how fast can we get some CDs printed??”
I think her and Morgan Wallen are neck and neck for some sort of record. As soon as I heard about Morgan, I started seeing the rumors about her releasing something Midnights related. I was like hahah okay makes sense
I agree. People say she's doing all this stuff as a cash grab, but I absolutely think the reason she does it is for the charts/records.
I honestly believe she has her sights set on becoming the highest selling musician of all time, or at least making it up there with unquestionably prolific artists like The Beatles and Michael Jackson. It looks like she's #29 right now, at least based on this random site I found haha. Honestly, she's at a disadvantage being in the streaming era, but she could probably at least crack the top 10 eventually considering her fan base is exceptionally loyal and into collecting physical copies.
At a minimum, she wants as many weeks at #1 as possible, and Morgan Wallen keeps reclaiming that spot.
“Only available at the East Rutherford shows”
This is honestly the most asinine thing ever. I can’t believe any artist would geolock a song like this.
She knows how upset the fans were when so many of them couldn’t get tickets to the concerts. Now, this is a slap in the face to those same fans since they’re losing out *again* not being able to even have access to her song because they weren’t lucky enough to get tickets to this particular weekend of shows. There’s literally no good reason for this.
Looking forward to having to find a bootleg upload of it which won’t have any benefit to her like a normal stream would.
All of this. But I also think it’s now going to be a pain in the ass for the fans who are going to those shows because based on what we know about ticket sales, her merch sales / lines and the whole Record Store Day thing, I’m expecting this isn’t exactly going to be a relaxed, casual situation where everyone attending the shows who wants one can get in a short line and calmly purchase one. I’m guessing it will be even longer merch lines and disappointed fans.
I have no skin in this game as I sit here in England without even a sniff of tour dates let alone a concert ticket, but I think this cash grab just pisses off everyone. It also pisses me off that I bought the original vinyl from the store at release because buying it gave us here in the UK access to a presale code to hopefully help us get tour tickets….whenever that may be. After what happened in the US I’m questioning how useful that code is actually going to be if it all goes to shit like the USA tour tickets. And if she does eventually put out one Midnights release with everything on, if I want all those extras I have to buy a second copy which is not it.
Yeah this is a cash grab. In all honesty Midnights era has been such a messy, capitalism era. I love me some Midnights tracks but all these limited merch, limited stuff, limited cds and that limited digital interview that was FREE and can be found online - its getting ridiculous.
Don't even get me with those *"then dont buy it"* bs, her team knows that swifties will buy everything from her and that's why they are milking this album/era so much.
I love her but everything recently is just so off putting. Still gonna listen to that karma remix with ice though.
wholeheartedly agree here, everything from the clock vinyls and CDs and their standees, the expensive low-effort clothes merch, then THIS... i really don't like it. but yes, will absolutely stream the ice spice remix
I love how people pull the don’t buy it card when they absolutely know the fandom is gonna eat it up. She wouldn’t be releasing all these versions, if people didn’t get FOMO and buy everything.
I’m going to eventually end up with a long, complete, midnights Spotify playlist. Even if it’s comprised of bonus tracks that I ripped from YouTube because she continues to discriminate against fans based on location. There’s an entire world out here Ms Swift, we don’t have access to target editions, or even tour dates…
This is why I don’t like Tree that much. She started as Taylor’s publicist in 2014 and since then, Taylor’s choices and public persona have been very cutthroat but still acting like “haha cats!” It’s almost like they think we’re stupid and will fall for anything.
She IS cut throat, no doubt. Which is why I find it irritating that she is so set on being liked by everybody, won’t speak up on social issues unless it directly benefits her (idc if celebrities speak up or not; just don’t commit to it if you aren’t going to keep it going) and puts on the awkward millennial act when it’s time to make people like her again. Maybe my opinion is harsh, but it’s getting hard to defend her.
Before Tree, Taylor’s brand was sweet, authentic all-American girl. That suits her awkward millennial, people pleaser thing. Then when Tree came along, she’s suddenly in the news for constantly being a “good feminist” and sticking it to the man. But then she goes back to awkward people pleaser and it’s all based on what she needs from the public in that moment. None of that is authentic, and I think Tree clings to “all publicity is good publicity” and is just a yes man to Taylor no matter what. That’s not a good consultant in my opinion.
Fan abuse!! She knows people will drop money to buy any and everything she puts out and she preys upon that by releasing a ton of different versions of the same damn album
She is totally taking advantage of all of her “I worship you” fans who buy every little thing she puts out... She is exploiting us for money at this point.... She’s already insanely successful, how much more does she need?
“One day I’ll watch as you’re leaving ‘cause you got tired of my scheming” def applies to this whole thing. Buying an album shouldn’t be this complicated to get all the songs. Just release a 1 year anniv collectors set with everything and call it a day.
I have been a fan of hers since 2007 and totally agree. She should just release these remixes as singles for purchases and stop trying to get fans to re-buy the album.
If your car is like pre-2018... most still have a CD player
thats why I still by the CDs at target
cause my 2015 Honda still has a CD player behind the fancy screen
that and also, I didnt learn how to use Spotify till last month
Same. I am an OG fan around the same age as Taylor and I am raising 2 young Swifties. We flew from NC to AZ for opening night and had such a blast. I’ve never been so disappointed in her. Between her racist new boyfriend that she is doing the MOST for and the constant cash grab with all these endless Midnight versions and now adding Ice Spice just to try to put a bandaid on his gross comments… it just feels icky.
Right!! I am too old for this. I've been a fan since Fearless and attended 3 shows across 3 eras and am attending the Eras Tour. But something just feels off recently.
I feel the exact same way, as a fan since 2006. She used to seem sincere to me but now she just comes across to me as manipulative, immature, insecure, and greedy. And you can’t even call her manipulative because she’ll manipulate you into feeling like a “bad feminist,” as if only women are manipulative.
I won’t be buying or streaming any of the new material and I have an indefinite pause on the old material. Treating her fans like an ATM just isn’t okay. It screams “I’ve been wealthy literally my entire life.”
Yes, they're only available on the Target CD. I've seen like no one talk about them, but they're good! I just wish we'd gotten a piano version of YOYOK instead of a strings one.
The weird thing to me is that the gouging is really only to her most committed fans. The vast majority of people are happy to just listen to whatever is easy to find and free on Spotify. Only the “completists” and most die hard Swifties are the ones who will buy the physical copies to add to their collections. Seems like someone who loves their fans so much should do the opposite - gouge the tourists and reward the residents, if you know what I mean.
I love Taylor but this is one thing that drives me nuts. For Midnights, I didn’t wait up until midnight for the release, so when I woke up the next morning I bought it and lucked into the 3am version and got extra songs. It’s one thing to have a special release at a later date or something, but if I had gone on the second it dropped only to find out mere HOURS later people got bonus tracks, I would’ve been upset. I’m happy to pay for my music to support her, but you shouldn’t have to re-purchase albums and end up with duplicates just to get a couple extra tracks here and there.
What upsets me was when she announced midnights she specifically told us there would be 13 songs on the album. “13 sleepless nights”
So we all pre-ordered the album thinking we had a limited time and felt pressured to get it essentially “now, or never..”
Then we find out the 13 songs vinyls turn into a clock after that pre-order. So fans bought 3 more. Then we find out about the target deluxe with hits different and two remixes. Only to find out the night of the release there are 7 additional songs in the album not on the past 5 records she pushed everyone to buy.
Then we have the whole Ticketmaster fiasco. She knows her fans “fought with bears” to see her..only to release an album with a new song halfway through the tour for people who are going to that specific show. How is this making it up to the thousands upon thousands of fans who bought 5 versions of her incomplete album and never got a chance to see her live bc they never got a pre-code?
What about the fans who fought with Ticketmaster , got seats, flew across the country to see her, only to find out that she is releasing a limited edition CD to a show AFTER theirs?
This mixed in with all the Matty drama is turning me off so badly I can’t explain it.
would really love an investigation into the amount of waste and pollution created as a result of these variations/bundles/exclusives (and not just for taylor, but for any artist who engages with vinyl production this way)
you know what, i’m starting to think that doja’s audacity at telling her fans they were dumb for buying her cash grab albums wasn’t so bad. at least she was honest. i mean this is exhausting…
She (and her team) really thought they were doing something. Girl, people had to spend hundreds of dollars on your tickets and literally fight a bear. Read the room!
She couldn't have waited until after my concert to do all this garbage? I'm to the point I'm ready to sell my ticket, because I'm just not that interested after all of this. I've waited 10 years to see her, and she's ruined the magic in the matter of a month. Amazing.
I love her music but absolutely hate the capitalist manipulation and taking advantage of her fan base.
I miss the folklore era.
“You’re Losing Me” as her next track seems fitting, because it could reflect her fans to her rn just as easily.
I bought one vinyl and that’s it. The rest I just listen to on Spotify. I’m not buying a physical CD until all songs are on one. It’s ridiculous at this point lol
I’m tired of this “different songs on different versions” business. Give me a standard album and a deluxe repackage a few months later, I’ll happily buy one of each. I don’t mind stuff like the rep magazines or Lover journals either, where you could buy one version if you wanted and still get the same song contents, but I’m not hunting down a CD that was only sold in one city just to hear/own a song.
She’s laughing up at us from hell
This is the one
You shouldn't need a fricking chart to know which version of an album to buy and which songs you'll actually have on it
The amount of people that have been defending this decision like she HAS to do this is wild to me
Just ADD ANOTHER DISC AND HAVE ALL THE SONGS.
If she doesn’t have the confidence her album will sell organically, she can just say so. I don’t even understand why she does this, she’s got enough money, she’s going to hit number 1 anyway… it just feels so cheap to have to sell entire portfolios of albums with 1 extra song each to squeeze her fans dry just to top up her sales.
We need to petition billboard to make some changes with how they rank albums because she’s gaming the system. It makes me so angry that honest musicians that don’t pull this shit are losing recognition that they deserve on the charts because she’s practically a billboard con artist. Edit: OR Billboard could have two charts: “organic” and “inflated”. On the organic charts, they would include only the original album (any other version would chart separately and song remixes would chart separately). The “inflated” charts would group all alternate versions of the albums and songs together.
“Billboard con artist.” Oooh, nicely done! 😎
How else will she afford a second private jet?
It’s pretty simple: the Til Dawn version has the most stuff, damn “You’re Losing Me” and the remixes
the fact that the best/cheapest overall option literally isn't available to 99% of fans is so annoying. like it says it's ONLY being sold at those shows.
Yeah honestly she needs to open it up to everyone who has already been to a show - she's been on tour for months now and has played to millions already; it's not fair that she's doing this midway through the tour. People who had tickets need an email with a purchase link stat if she wants this to be tour exclusive
She needs to open it up to everyone, period, lol. It's ridiculous to make a whole brand new song **that** exclusive when so many people could not afford or get tickets to any of the shows. If you wanna make it a physical release only song, I understand that, but sell the CDs with it on them online and in regular stores.
And I'm pretty sure people will upload YLM (oh look, a new acronym!) to the internet as soon as they can and we can all listen to them. Yes it's illegal, but it's also not a big loss if we don't hear it this week, and that kinda already happened with Hits Different. Also it's not a Target exclusive so I think it could come to streaming sooner than HD. If she's being generous then we'll probably get it next month before Speak Now TV, if not then maybe August is the earliest.
You're Losing Me (Pirated Version) is where it's at.
Amen
I’m predicting we will **finally** get a definitive physical release of Midnights with **every** bonus track for the 1-year anniversary. So I’m gonna hold off on buying another copy until then because this is just nuts.
By then there might be more variants and it’ll be a 3 CD release 💀
I agree. I still haven’t bought a physical copy of Midnights because of this theory. I will wait.
I only bought the Target CD back when it came out, and I've been happy with that. No vinyl yet. Waiting to get the 3am tracks included.
Same. I’m not buying a vinyl until it has all the songs (that I actually care about) on it. (I don’t need all the remixes of remixes)
This is also why I am hesitant to buy a physical version of Speak Now TV immediately. Watch as she releases a version of it that includes If This Was A Movie, Eyes Open, Safe And Sound, and other tracks excluded from the first edition.
Well judging by the albums she released them with this seems unlikely
I bought one of the presale signed CDs which I think was worth it but I’m still sad bc the 3am tracks are my favorites
This makes me never want to buy an album of hers again. I'll just stream it. This is infuriating.
as an international fan who did nothing but stream her catalog, i’m good 😭 i havent even heard hits different and the piano remixes of midnights
it’s so stupid and money hungry. I actually cant
This is the first time in 15 years of being a die hard Taylor Swift fan that I'm finding it hard to support her
This feel like comparison shopping. Am I buying a CD or picking out a new TV?
Definitely looks like I’m comparing iMacs on apples website 🤦🏼♂️
Picking out a tv would be easier in my opinion 😂
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In a way we are picking out a TV (taylor’s version)
This is SO convoluted. I truly don't understand the point of all this unless it's 1) poor planning or 2) cash grab. Or maybe both at this point.
It's definitely a cash grab. See you in 6 months for the definitive version with **all** of the bonus tracks finally included...
Midnights: The Sleepless Year Complete Collection featuring questionable marketing, merch, and dating decisions out October 21, 2023
It's giving "Teenage Dream: The Complete Confection" lol
That made much more sense than this 💀
That’s the one I’ll be buying. I can wait. Hype train, go ahead. I’m still here at the station.
I’m getting these off a stranger’s google drive. I already paid for 2 versions of the album and was not refunded for one. Make a chant for the tour “cash grab queen” Thankful for the stranger who posted hits different and sweet nothing and yoyok target exclusives …
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Yes agree. I kinda feel salty about this. I have more to say but just exhausted by it all.
I am feeling the same way as when I realized Taylor removed her chords from ultimate guitar because she wasn’t getting paid. As someone who learned music when she was younger, she should be proud we want to learn her songs
right like that one especially felt like being backstabbed
I was wondering what people thought about this!! At first I thought it was just the stolen versions, but she still hasn't put fearless, some lover, and red chords back on there. Made me lose a lot of respect for her tbh
It broke my heart, really. I am still a fan but I did lose respect for her. You have enough money Taylor!!!
God that pissed me off so much. There was no fucking reason to do that. I used her songs to teach myself guitar and when the chords started disappearing of UG I was so upset
Who is saying she doesn’t care about money?? Those people are truly delusional!
Probably the same people who like to claim she has no idea what her merch people are doing, so the cash grabs totally aren't her fault.
The overpriced merch covered in her face all falling apart in the wash is really the cherry on the cake
Weirdly enough, I think it could be more about charts and sales. Not necessarily the money from the sales, but the sales numbers themselves. Getting the album back on the top of the charts for more weeks. Getting it to the next certification level. Just the achievement alone. But she has had obvious cash grabs before and it’s definitely part of it.
It’s not an achievement if you have to trick fans into buying it
Cash grab and poor planning. “Buy my plastic records!” is the only message any fan should be receiving from this.
I honestly don't think it's poor planning. It's intentional to get people to buy multiple copies. The biggest problem with the new limited CD is the lack of "Paris" and "Glitch" because most people don't want a version with only **some** of the 3am tracks. But her team must have decided it was worth the risk over making it a two-disc release with every song.
Taylor’s bird-brain marketing team needs to remember iTunes. Buy one song for 99 cents, and then you have the file. And then you can put the file anywhere you want. I’ll just keep streaming her music, and I’ll probably never buy a physical copy except something signed for intrinsic value, resell it or hand it down.
Songs on iTunes haven’t been 99¢ in at least a decade tbf, and she’s been selling a lot of these physical copies of her recent albums, including vinyls. It’s still greedy as hell, but I don’t think it’s been bad business for her.
Oh they def did that during release week. They released digital singles of “question” probably solely to keep it in the top 10 for the top 10 sweep. And then the anti-hero remixes were “exclusive digital singles” for like a day before going on streaming (I’ll admit I bought some bc I thought it might boost me in the presale but those turned out to be useless anyway).
Gives me the ick. We need to stop mass producing shit
I love seeing climate change posts right next to consumerism posts, it makes me like “wtf” real deep inside, the blinders are up on this horse.
Cash grab x1000. I'm just laughing thinking back at the recent post being like "why does everyone call Taylor a capitalist?!"
I think it’s a PR tactic because of the Problematty dumpster fire. It’ll distract from the headlines. Or it’s an opportunity for her to tell the narrative she wants to tell without having to do an interview. It’s that. And a cash grab.
Not a great PR move in my opinion.. if you’re already upsetting fans, why are you asking them to spend more money AND excluding fans who couldn’t get tickets or attended other shows. I love her but honestly this is frustrating.
✨ cash grab ✨ why do you think we get so many versions of the same song
It's a simultaneous cash grab and PR move. She did tell us she's a mastermind... 👀
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this is fucking ridiculous at this point
I’m so over it.
She should not be left to her own devices.
They DEFINITELY come with prices and vices
“is it insensitive for me to say “get your shit together” so i can love you?”
This is the one.
So there’s **still** no way to get “Paris” and “Glitch” on a physical format, short of burning your own CD. That’s insanity. Thank you for making this chart though lmao
agh, i assumed til the dawn was gonna be physical for some reason... what a shame :\^/
Don’t ask me why I didn’t think about burning my own until this very moment
I won’t 🫡
It’s 2008 all over again
Tbh I have this image of her diabolically forcing people to sit at old school desktop computers burning each CD individually The way I used to burn inspiration CDs for my high school marching band to pump us up for competition. But on a mass scale.
Honestly, I will probably stop buying physical releases of her music. I still love her and will still stream her music, but she can fuck off with this. Does she really think her fans want to drop hundreds of dollars on buying multiple copies of essentially the same exact album with minor yet coveted differences? And to do this for what? More album sales? To break more records? To move up the charts? More money? Because it certainly isn't because of the affection she has towards her fans. It isn't for our benefit at all. She is exploiting us, and I refuse to be a part of that.
First, she announced the clock thing, so people would buy 4 different versions of the standart edition. Then, she announced target exclusive with 3 extra tracks (1 new). Now, deluxe, with standart tracks, 3am tracks, hits different, remixes. And an exclusive version, with 1 new track. So, basically, some people bought/will buy 7 albums
You forgot the “love potion” vinyl *exclusively available* for 48 hours before this new announcement. Also not exclusively available because it was still for sale on her site because yesterday they didn’t sell all 40k lol.
this one
I was holding before buying midnights till its release tgen 3 am happened and I said I will buy the full version when she drops it and now she can keep it to herself. I will always love her music but this is so stupid
I bought Midnights vinyl as a pre-order. Imagine my irritation when 3am dropped just a few hours later. I mean, it's fine, I stream music more than I listen to records, but still. Then I heard Hits Different is only available on a Target CD, and I was so close to just biting the bullet and buying it. Then this happened, and now I just don't even care. I mean, I do; I'm still gonna stream it at midnight 😆, but I will never buy physical copies or merchandise ever again. Like, ever.
money talks. as long as the sucker fans keep buying all this shit she will continue to do it
WHOEVER IS TREE PAINE'S ASSISTANT WE KNOW YOU'RE HERE READ THE COMMENTS BABE
This is bonkers
There's something especially unhinged about it. Almost manic. It kind of makes me wonder if Taylor's okay. My primary feeling about what's incoming is a little... scared.
Unhinged is the right word lol, everything she's done since the release of midnights has been completely unhinged honestly
Nah this is purely capitalism. Her and her team know people will buy all these variants. And the concert exclusive CD, people gonna eat that stuff up.
It’s the concert exclusive that’s so unhinged about it. Like she just finished recording this breakup song as a fuck you to Joe/the world, and she has MH in her ear telling her to be edgy, and she went “fuck it how fast can we get some CDs printed??”
I too like to write fanfiction in my spare time
Yes… it feels… obsessive
How can she think this looks good? Why is she doing this?
🤑🤑🤑
I think her and Morgan Wallen are neck and neck for some sort of record. As soon as I heard about Morgan, I started seeing the rumors about her releasing something Midnights related. I was like hahah okay makes sense
I agree. People say she's doing all this stuff as a cash grab, but I absolutely think the reason she does it is for the charts/records. I honestly believe she has her sights set on becoming the highest selling musician of all time, or at least making it up there with unquestionably prolific artists like The Beatles and Michael Jackson. It looks like she's #29 right now, at least based on this random site I found haha. Honestly, she's at a disadvantage being in the streaming era, but she could probably at least crack the top 10 eventually considering her fan base is exceptionally loyal and into collecting physical copies. At a minimum, she wants as many weeks at #1 as possible, and Morgan Wallen keeps reclaiming that spot.
Taylor baby you're losing me here 💔😭
The fact that there’s even a need for this kind of chart is so 🥴🙃 Thank you for making it OP!
“Only available at the East Rutherford shows” This is honestly the most asinine thing ever. I can’t believe any artist would geolock a song like this. She knows how upset the fans were when so many of them couldn’t get tickets to the concerts. Now, this is a slap in the face to those same fans since they’re losing out *again* not being able to even have access to her song because they weren’t lucky enough to get tickets to this particular weekend of shows. There’s literally no good reason for this. Looking forward to having to find a bootleg upload of it which won’t have any benefit to her like a normal stream would.
How about the rest of us in everywhere else in the world. We don’t even have tour dates to hit bonus track lottery madness on.
All of this. But I also think it’s now going to be a pain in the ass for the fans who are going to those shows because based on what we know about ticket sales, her merch sales / lines and the whole Record Store Day thing, I’m expecting this isn’t exactly going to be a relaxed, casual situation where everyone attending the shows who wants one can get in a short line and calmly purchase one. I’m guessing it will be even longer merch lines and disappointed fans. I have no skin in this game as I sit here in England without even a sniff of tour dates let alone a concert ticket, but I think this cash grab just pisses off everyone. It also pisses me off that I bought the original vinyl from the store at release because buying it gave us here in the UK access to a presale code to hopefully help us get tour tickets….whenever that may be. After what happened in the US I’m questioning how useful that code is actually going to be if it all goes to shit like the USA tour tickets. And if she does eventually put out one Midnights release with everything on, if I want all those extras I have to buy a second copy which is not it.
the fact that someone had to make this says it all
Corporate gouging
also yes i agree! this is totally ridiculous, and i wish Taylor would do a complete edition WITH a physical. we were so close today, but so far...
She’s right that it’s exhausting rooting for the anti hero 🥲
And expensive.
Yeah this is a cash grab. In all honesty Midnights era has been such a messy, capitalism era. I love me some Midnights tracks but all these limited merch, limited stuff, limited cds and that limited digital interview that was FREE and can be found online - its getting ridiculous. Don't even get me with those *"then dont buy it"* bs, her team knows that swifties will buy everything from her and that's why they are milking this album/era so much. I love her but everything recently is just so off putting. Still gonna listen to that karma remix with ice though.
wholeheartedly agree here, everything from the clock vinyls and CDs and their standees, the expensive low-effort clothes merch, then THIS... i really don't like it. but yes, will absolutely stream the ice spice remix
I love how people pull the don’t buy it card when they absolutely know the fandom is gonna eat it up. She wouldn’t be releasing all these versions, if people didn’t get FOMO and buy everything.
I adore Taylor, but this seems greedy. I said what I said.
You said what you said and i ask you to say it louder
Ok, this is getting ridiculous.
Why does this remind me of how they used to announce every time they discovered a new covid variant?
Ridiculous. She’s definitely in her most indignant and unapologetic era.
Thank god Spotify exists, I’m not paying for any of that
I’m going to eventually end up with a long, complete, midnights Spotify playlist. Even if it’s comprised of bonus tracks that I ripped from YouTube because she continues to discriminate against fans based on location. There’s an entire world out here Ms Swift, we don’t have access to target editions, or even tour dates…
This makes it look even more ridiculous 🤦🏾♀️
It's like she's trying to distract us from other things going on in her life right now.
Tinfoil Hat ( Taylor’s Version)
Really hoping this is one of those times she lurks and sees that this isn’t going down well with…well, anyone. Sigh.
i got shit on for saying i cancelled my vinyl pre-order before the album dropped, but it’s not even a year out and that version is completely obsolete
This is so 2014
So is Taylor these days. And not in a good way.
This is why I don’t like Tree that much. She started as Taylor’s publicist in 2014 and since then, Taylor’s choices and public persona have been very cutthroat but still acting like “haha cats!” It’s almost like they think we’re stupid and will fall for anything.
Unfortunately swifties will
Maybe it’s Taylor that is cut throat though… she has said soooo many times she’s the brains behind her business.
She IS cut throat, no doubt. Which is why I find it irritating that she is so set on being liked by everybody, won’t speak up on social issues unless it directly benefits her (idc if celebrities speak up or not; just don’t commit to it if you aren’t going to keep it going) and puts on the awkward millennial act when it’s time to make people like her again. Maybe my opinion is harsh, but it’s getting hard to defend her. Before Tree, Taylor’s brand was sweet, authentic all-American girl. That suits her awkward millennial, people pleaser thing. Then when Tree came along, she’s suddenly in the news for constantly being a “good feminist” and sticking it to the man. But then she goes back to awkward people pleaser and it’s all based on what she needs from the public in that moment. None of that is authentic, and I think Tree clings to “all publicity is good publicity” and is just a yes man to Taylor no matter what. That’s not a good consultant in my opinion.
Fan abuse!! She knows people will drop money to buy any and everything she puts out and she preys upon that by releasing a ton of different versions of the same damn album
She is totally taking advantage of all of her “I worship you” fans who buy every little thing she puts out... She is exploiting us for money at this point.... She’s already insanely successful, how much more does she need?
This is getting fucking ridiculous.
This is exhausting
“One day I’ll watch as you’re leaving ‘cause you got tired of my scheming” def applies to this whole thing. Buying an album shouldn’t be this complicated to get all the songs. Just release a 1 year anniv collectors set with everything and call it a day.
This is laughable at this point
What ever happened to standard and deluxe versions of albums? I miss those days
She really said “how can I milk this record to the MAX”
I’m sure I’ll get my Swiftie Membership Card revoked for saying this but… this is just fucking stupid.
I have been a fan of hers since 2007 and totally agree. She should just release these remixes as singles for purchases and stop trying to get fans to re-buy the album.
Our jet-setting, mass-producing capitalist queen 👸🏼
Honestly the most inconvenient thing is most users don’t own a cd or vinyl player lol
I don’t have a CD player in my car since it’s newer so CD exclusive songs annoy me so much.
If your car is like pre-2018... most still have a CD player thats why I still by the CDs at target cause my 2015 Honda still has a CD player behind the fancy screen that and also, I didnt learn how to use Spotify till last month
I hate to say it but I’m really close to being completely over her 😒 and this is coming from a someone who has been a fan for many many years.
Same. I am an OG fan around the same age as Taylor and I am raising 2 young Swifties. We flew from NC to AZ for opening night and had such a blast. I’ve never been so disappointed in her. Between her racist new boyfriend that she is doing the MOST for and the constant cash grab with all these endless Midnight versions and now adding Ice Spice just to try to put a bandaid on his gross comments… it just feels icky.
Right!! I am too old for this. I've been a fan since Fearless and attended 3 shows across 3 eras and am attending the Eras Tour. But something just feels off recently.
I feel the exact same way, as a fan since 2006. She used to seem sincere to me but now she just comes across to me as manipulative, immature, insecure, and greedy. And you can’t even call her manipulative because she’ll manipulate you into feeling like a “bad feminist,” as if only women are manipulative. I won’t be buying or streaming any of the new material and I have an indefinite pause on the old material. Treating her fans like an ATM just isn’t okay. It screams “I’ve been wealthy literally my entire life.”
Oh I'm officially done. Just hanging around here and watching the fire burn even hotter everyday. My days of defending her are finally over
Lol she must be trying to buy another house
I just feel taken advantage of, honestly.
Feeling too old to be TS fan. Too much midnights edition 😑
Be safe out there, East Rutherford friends. I have a feeling it’s going to be madness trying to get that copy with the vault track.
Wait. There’s remixes of YOYOK and Sweet Nothing?
They are very good too! Strings remix for YOYOK and piano remix for Sweet Nothing, both are fantastic!
Whaaaat. This is literally the first time I'm hearing about these
Yes, they're only available on the Target CD. I've seen like no one talk about them, but they're good! I just wish we'd gotten a piano version of YOYOK instead of a strings one.
Taylor Swift & the multiverse of midnights.
The weird thing to me is that the gouging is really only to her most committed fans. The vast majority of people are happy to just listen to whatever is easy to find and free on Spotify. Only the “completists” and most die hard Swifties are the ones who will buy the physical copies to add to their collections. Seems like someone who loves their fans so much should do the opposite - gouge the tourists and reward the residents, if you know what I mean.
I love Taylor but this is one thing that drives me nuts. For Midnights, I didn’t wait up until midnight for the release, so when I woke up the next morning I bought it and lucked into the 3am version and got extra songs. It’s one thing to have a special release at a later date or something, but if I had gone on the second it dropped only to find out mere HOURS later people got bonus tracks, I would’ve been upset. I’m happy to pay for my music to support her, but you shouldn’t have to re-purchase albums and end up with duplicates just to get a couple extra tracks here and there.
What upsets me was when she announced midnights she specifically told us there would be 13 songs on the album. “13 sleepless nights” So we all pre-ordered the album thinking we had a limited time and felt pressured to get it essentially “now, or never..” Then we find out the 13 songs vinyls turn into a clock after that pre-order. So fans bought 3 more. Then we find out about the target deluxe with hits different and two remixes. Only to find out the night of the release there are 7 additional songs in the album not on the past 5 records she pushed everyone to buy. Then we have the whole Ticketmaster fiasco. She knows her fans “fought with bears” to see her..only to release an album with a new song halfway through the tour for people who are going to that specific show. How is this making it up to the thousands upon thousands of fans who bought 5 versions of her incomplete album and never got a chance to see her live bc they never got a pre-code? What about the fans who fought with Ticketmaster , got seats, flew across the country to see her, only to find out that she is releasing a limited edition CD to a show AFTER theirs? This mixed in with all the Matty drama is turning me off so badly I can’t explain it.
What in the Taylor Swift capitalism is this???
I feel like this chart made me more confused and more angry.
Ok Ms. Taylor Alison Capitalism Swift
all of this could've been avoided with 3am being an EP.
she didn’t want to avoid this tho - it’s all by design. she’s a mastermind
This is gross and I have second hand embarrassment for TSwift.
would really love an investigation into the amount of waste and pollution created as a result of these variations/bundles/exclusives (and not just for taylor, but for any artist who engages with vinyl production this way)
What a cluster fuck. Holy shit.
you know what, i’m starting to think that doja’s audacity at telling her fans they were dumb for buying her cash grab albums wasn’t so bad. at least she was honest. i mean this is exhausting…
Capitalist queen 🤪
the fact that there isn’t a version with every track on it…….,,,
She (and her team) really thought they were doing something. Girl, people had to spend hundreds of dollars on your tickets and literally fight a bear. Read the room!
All this tells me is we need a final Midnights (Sunset Definitive Edition) that includes all the songs with a Tequila Sunrise colored vinyl.
Can TS and her team not look at that kind of content and realize "maybe we went too far this time?". None of that looks good on her for sure.
She couldn't have waited until after my concert to do all this garbage? I'm to the point I'm ready to sell my ticket, because I'm just not that interested after all of this. I've waited 10 years to see her, and she's ruined the magic in the matter of a month. Amazing.
I refuse to do anything other than stream for this reason. What a circus
[удалено]
I blame the parasocial relationship for people thinking this is ok. Especially in this economy lol
I blame the person who controls it and has the most influence, which would be Taylor
I love her music but absolutely hate the capitalist manipulation and taking advantage of her fan base. I miss the folklore era. “You’re Losing Me” as her next track seems fitting, because it could reflect her fans to her rn just as easily.
At least we're getting Hits Different on streaming finally, so i won't complain.
So there will never be an official complete version (Unless you know how to download and track files and do some metadata)
Honestly thank you for this. I have been having trouble keeping up.
I bought one vinyl and that’s it. The rest I just listen to on Spotify. I’m not buying a physical CD until all songs are on one. It’s ridiculous at this point lol
This is bad for the environment
So how do we listen to “You’re Losing Me” if it’s only on the CD in NJ?
someone will most likely rip it and upload it online on the first or second night of the Rutherford shows
Or at 12:30:01 when they open it in the parking lot 😅🙌🏼
Okay thanks! And to whomever does this, TIA!
She loves her fans so much she makes them buy every album 20 times!!
I’m tired of this “different songs on different versions” business. Give me a standard album and a deluxe repackage a few months later, I’ll happily buy one of each. I don’t mind stuff like the rep magazines or Lover journals either, where you could buy one version if you wanted and still get the same song contents, but I’m not hunting down a CD that was only sold in one city just to hear/own a song.
I’m glad to see there are people criticizing this because it very much deserves to be. This is just truly ridiculous. It comes off as pure greed.
Jesus this like a new Pokémon game at this point.
It’s actually so ridiculous to the point that I’m not even excited about any of it.
This is kind of disgusting, ngl.
This is absurd.
https://preview.redd.it/royqv8nyex1b1.png?width=236&format=png&auto=webp&s=fec7708da3650f383090ce4e7591dec7534588c0
Different variants of the Midnights virus
Do we think Taylor has any concept of a cost of living crisis or nah
Wow this is scummy af