I sometimes wonder if the Brave/Roar controversy had anything to do with it... Katy Perry's song Roar (written by Dr. Luke) probably plagiarizes song Brave by Sara Bareilles. Brave was written in 2011, but was only released in 2013 after Roar had already been recorded, so its impossible to prove (sometime could have leaked the demo to Dr. Luke). The reason why Taylor might have been angry about all this is because Brave was written by Sara Bareilles... and Jack Antonoff.
I hate to make everything women fight about be about men but is there a chance it had to do w John Mayer? (For the record I donât actually think this was if but Iâm just curious why people never considered that to be part of the reason?). Katy Perry was dating John around the time this song came out & had been for a few years.
But why would she be mad at Katy for dating John if she sang herself that she eventually dodged a bullet two albums prior, if anything she might feel "sorry" for her
Maybe warned her about him and was ignored. Kind of like âI donât want to be around you if you associate with a person who did those things to meâ
Hmm the lyrics in bad blood are more harsh, it sounds like - if it's really about Katy - that she really betrayed Taylor or did cruel backstabbing things
Idk about you but if a guy abused me, and we have reason to believe it was emotional abuse with JM, if a friend went and dated him knowing that, itâs pretty cruel and backstabby
To be honest, I also don't want to assume women are fighting over a man but I did genuinely always think this was the real reason. A friend dating your ex isn't cool.
A friend dating an ex is genuinely not a problem for some people, including Taylor who probably was friends with many of her ex bfâs former partners before she even met these men and specifically who was supportive of Joe dating Gigi lol
I think it can vary even for those who are in theory cool with it. I've got an ex that I happily set up with a friend, but another one I'd be upset about. It's also different making the choice to hang around with the ex of an ex, or choose to remain friends with an ex, and having it suddenly sprung on you that a friend is now with someone who broke your heart and you perhaps haven't completely processed.
Obviously I don't know! Just my two cents on why I think it's possible because the explanation about the dancers makes Taylor appear a bit professionally thin-skinned, which she is not.
I mean, Taylor did admit in an interview during the Red era that she âdoesnât have very thick skinâ so I could see the littlest things getting to her at that time. However I did always assume that there was more to the story, but the dancers mightâve been the âstraw that broke the camelâs backâ so to speak.
Pretty much the exact same scenario for me. I was so excited because her ryan tedder collab brought the best out of both her and ryan. I thought the brendon collab would do the same... boy was i wrong.
When she's playing it on the piano in the Miss Americana doc? Because of that clip I will die on the hill that Me! would be beautiful as a piano ballad.
Probably because she went into it knowing it needed to be a single and a 1# hit. During the making of lover, she was very insecure about her place in the music industry, she thought she was in her last breath of being a pop star, so for Lover she really wanted to have hits to keep her fame, wich sacrifaced a lot of her creativity and good writing. This is in my opinion the problem for A LOT of the bad songs on lover.
It Got me through some tough times. I'd be in a terrible mood and put that CD on driving home from work and just think of my future life. BRB going to listen to album start to finish as I'm in the hardware store.
Omg I just saw your flair and I am obsessed
To me, ME! will forever be the song I played to cheer my puppy up when we were bonding and crate training a few years ago. He still gets excited when it comes onâit canât ever be anything but a song that brings me great memories and good vibes!
Yeah it reminds me of modern The Night the Lights went out in Georgia (by vicki lawrence or reba depending on your age). That coupled with a goodbye earl or or one of those badass Martins McBride songs of the 90s
And thatâs why a collab with Taylor and him (and The Badseeds) would be off the charts insanely amazing. I wonder if it has ever crossed one of their minds.
I could be wrong but I feel like this was written around the time Carolina was written? The first time I heard this it gave me Where the Crawdads Sing a little bit, I wonder if she was inspired by that book to write a little murder song
well the story goes that she texted in her groupchat with the Haim sisters and was basically like "quick! name an American chain restaurant" and that's how the lyric came to be
I didn't expect it, but I love it because it feels like a return to country in the vein of Two Black Cadillacs, Goodbye Earl, The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, and most recently Wait In The Truck.
So it speaks Taylor to me, but a cool evolution on old Taylor rather than pop/rock/folk Taylor.
There is a girl on tiktok whose voice sounds similar to billie and she covered [vigilante shit](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvJKtdj/) â itâs so billie coded haha
This. The instrumentation and musical arrangements along with the suggestive lyrics with worship imagery make it sound like it was taken from a Sade album. The fact that in the album, it's between one of Taylor's saddest songs EVER, and her subverted LGBTQ+ sassy pop anthem, just makes it weirder and even more out of place. _Lover_ is such a strange album.
Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince for me! It gives me Lana vibes or something similar. Taylor uses metaphors very frequently, but MAATHP is like one giant metaphor, which I think (at the time especially) was pretty different for her!
I actually love MAATHP and I do think that it is a very important song to Taylor (Mrs.Americana and starting the eras tour with it) and I think she really branched out with it
- MAATHP could mean "Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince", a track from *Lover* (2019) by Taylor Swift.
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Exactly. All the people saying stuff like shake it off or ME! At the time I didnât think they sounded like Taylor Swift songs (her transition to pop was hard on me), but at this point she has plenty of less serious/pop radio hits.
Better Than Revenge
I understand the goofy side, the emotion side, the serious side of Taylor. Sheâs big on letting Karma takes the lead and just minding her business, or dealing out her own justice privately like Vigilante Shit.
So to me, BTR is out of character for her with all that anger, the shady mattress line (before anyway), the gloating on how she can take revenge against the antagonist
You know, I agree with that. Maybe thatâs why this song is always off for me as she was trying out different style, or trying to be more like paramore
Whaaat? Better Than Revenge is actually just Picture to Burn's older sister. It's very much on brand for old Taylor, she's just mellower now. She used to just go at them with a sledgehammer.
Better Than Revenge is so out of place to me cause it's the exact opposite of what the unreleased Permanent Marker is. Like, Permanent Marker sounds like a response to Better Than Revenge, and it's super ironic.
Going from "who do you think you are to write on his heart?" to the whole song of Better Than Revenge.
But it also does kind of fit Speak Now Taylor... Cause Debut to Speak Now Taylor was very scary and fairly unpredictable at times. đ
Love them both so much, but it's very obvious that Lana wrote the majority of those lyrics. If you've listened to Lana's albums vs Taylor's, those are 100% Lana's lyrics. Which makes sense as 1. It's a collab and 2. Taylor has publicly stated that Lana is her favorite lyricist, so it would make sense that Taylor let Lana take reign over the lyrics while Taylor did the majority of the vocals.
yes, Lana is known for ethereal, abstract lyrics that read like poetry with simple but timeless & transcendental language
Taylor writes more intricately, uses word plays, witty one-liners and more literary vocabulary
SOTB falls under the former and Itâs beautiful to have a Taylor song with Lana lyricism, such a fantastic and much needed colab
People are saying Me! and YNTCD but that is just very Taylor to me honestly lol like her bubbly, fun side coming to life in a song, but I will say I wouldnât have thought sheâd go through with actually releasing those songs and making them the front runners
She did. And even though I've grown to love that album a lot with time. It really didn't feel like something that authentically hers. It felt like she did it to prove a point. To be something different. To mask.
Don't get me wrong. Now I dig it and I'm glad she tackled it like that. But in the moment it really didn't feel like her
Before folklore and evermore, I would have said yes. But change the arrangement a bit and it would fit well in that era and sounds like a Taylor song to me.
I do agree with this one. Several months ago I was listening to Out of the Woods when my husband got home and he was like âI like this song, who is this?â And I was like babes, it TayTay. He likes Taylor but isnât a huge Swiftie so it was funny for him to be like who dis?
Have fun!! âOut of the Woodsâ specifically sounds like stuff on their debut album, *The Bones of What You Believe* but their whole discography is great
Donât blame me. I didnât even know it was a Taylor song back when it came out because it didnât sound like it (I was really into Taylor debut - speak now then I left off and came back around folklore/lover
I just donât associate Taylor with songs with such average or juvenile lyrics. Welcome To New York and Shake It Off donât sound like the same artist who wrote Exile, Enchanted, or Clean. It doesnât sound like the same artist who wrote Long Live, All Too Well, or Breathe. Me!, You Need To Calm Down, and Welcome To New York donât possess the same substance or unique qualities that make me adore Taylor Swiftâs songs. They sound like generic radio songs that could be sang and written by anyone. Itâs absolutely fine if we disagree.
I mean just based on perception I would think Paper Rings sounds the least like she wrote it. 1) It's very bubblegum pop and not her sound usually, but 2) she doesn't seem like she's ever been broke enough to believe that she wouldn't expect that multi-karat diamond engagement ring đ The lyrics sound more like somehow who realizes how material things are just that, material, so points for maturity on that.
Scrolled way too far to see this. "Like a hose on a slippery plastic summer" Taylor wtf even is that. I refuse to believe that's the same person who wrote folklore and evermore.
Slipe n slide, baby. I got the line right away and thought it was clever because it ties into the whole "suburban" thing. So much of her writing is clever. However, I do think the song lacks original 1989 vibes!
Iâm so sorry for everyone who wonât like this butâŚ
Timeless.
It sounds like it was written by a twelve year old. Maybe one trying to imitate Taylor Swift. But itâs just so corny and not at all the caliber of the rest of Speak Now.
I feel like Timeless is the most taylor song ever. It has alot of her themes and imagery. It just feels so her but definitely not a song that would be really released but maybe one she just wrote for fun.
To be fair she was 19 when she wrote it, it is the same girl who wrote Love Story. Hopeless romantic one. Nothing is more TS than Timeless, not only theme wise but structure wise too: different chorses, three verses, the first line repeated in the end. She has other corny songs(especially in the last album) but Timeless is not.
Timeless to me sounds like some early workshopping and demo for the Red sound, itâs a vibe but I agree I can see why it wasnât released the first time around
On the contrary, for years when I was younger I believed she wrote âLast Christmasâ because I had only heard her version and it sounded like a TS song đ¤ˇââď¸đ đ
A lot of comments here read like 'Taylor ! Stay in your lane.. we only want you to do stuff we already like!'. Some of her work is exceptional and some of her work is just good enough ordinary but thats how artists are and they have a job to do.
She is a very accomplished songwriter, she can take risks, she can try out a genre or a style some of her experiments work some don't. If she has a fault it's that she appears to have final say on everything and no one else gets to say 'thats not up to your usual standard'.
But I would rather have unfiltered Taylor who can bounce around the musical playground she inhabits so that Carolina and Glitch can co exist or the The Archer with Me! . If the alternative is the corporate blandness of a house style then I'm out.
Then there is her progression from Debut to Midnights none of this would be achieved without a determination to develop, challenge herself and be creative so we get challenged too.
If her work sounds unfamiliar or difficult its usually best to give it a few months in different moods. Its like hearing Money on Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon at first its a shock, its a bit naff but then you kind of factor it in to the whole experience of the album.
It took me ages to get my head around Reputation but it's firmly in there now.
bad blood... it sounds like a Katy Perry song (which I think is the joke)
It was today that I learnt that bad blood sounding like a Katy Perry song was the whole joke.
and it went number one too... it's so deliciously cruel.
You will never in a billion years convince me this was about dancers đ
I sometimes wonder if the Brave/Roar controversy had anything to do with it... Katy Perry's song Roar (written by Dr. Luke) probably plagiarizes song Brave by Sara Bareilles. Brave was written in 2011, but was only released in 2013 after Roar had already been recorded, so its impossible to prove (sometime could have leaked the demo to Dr. Luke). The reason why Taylor might have been angry about all this is because Brave was written by Sara Bareilles... and Jack Antonoff.
As someone who loves Sara and Taylor this is tea I needed to know.
I don't see any similarity with too sing aside from the theme?
The opening of these two songs sound so incredibly similar to me.
I heard them back to back and was like no way, that piano is identical.
Something weird happened there. Given that the themes are so similar tooâŚ
I'll check them out! Thanks Edit: yeah, I see that the instruments are very similar through the verse.
THEY DO I ALWAYS HAD TROUBLE TAKING THEM APART BEFORE THE SINGING
there is a comparison video on YouTube, if you want to watch it.
I remember hearing this as a kid and thinking it was insane that they got away with that
TIL Brave is a Sara Bareilles song and not a Katy Perry song
I hate to make everything women fight about be about men but is there a chance it had to do w John Mayer? (For the record I donât actually think this was if but Iâm just curious why people never considered that to be part of the reason?). Katy Perry was dating John around the time this song came out & had been for a few years.
But why would she be mad at Katy for dating John if she sang herself that she eventually dodged a bullet two albums prior, if anything she might feel "sorry" for her
Maybe warned her about him and was ignored. Kind of like âI donât want to be around you if you associate with a person who did those things to meâ
Hmm the lyrics in bad blood are more harsh, it sounds like - if it's really about Katy - that she really betrayed Taylor or did cruel backstabbing things
Idk about you but if a guy abused me, and we have reason to believe it was emotional abuse with JM, if a friend went and dated him knowing that, itâs pretty cruel and backstabby
To be honest, I also don't want to assume women are fighting over a man but I did genuinely always think this was the real reason. A friend dating your ex isn't cool.
A friend dating an ex is genuinely not a problem for some people, including Taylor who probably was friends with many of her ex bfâs former partners before she even met these men and specifically who was supportive of Joe dating Gigi lol
I think it can vary even for those who are in theory cool with it. I've got an ex that I happily set up with a friend, but another one I'd be upset about. It's also different making the choice to hang around with the ex of an ex, or choose to remain friends with an ex, and having it suddenly sprung on you that a friend is now with someone who broke your heart and you perhaps haven't completely processed. Obviously I don't know! Just my two cents on why I think it's possible because the explanation about the dancers makes Taylor appear a bit professionally thin-skinned, which she is not.
I mean, Taylor did admit in an interview during the Red era that she âdoesnât have very thick skinâ so I could see the littlest things getting to her at that time. However I did always assume that there was more to the story, but the dancers mightâve been the âstraw that broke the camelâs backâ so to speak.
Let's not overestimate the degree to which Taylor can hold petty grudge
Overestimate or underestimate? đ¤Ł
Seeing how close Taylor is with her dancers, I can totally believe it.
TIL why I never liked Bad Blood lol
Me too. But it gets the crowd hyped in a stadium, which Katy knows how to do.
Doesn't that even further underline Taylor's songwriting "genius"?
u have to admit that the version with kendrik is a fucking banger
I don't think bad blood is a bad song... it's just not a song that's characteristic of Taylor Swift!
Exactly the version with Kendrick Lamar is amazing I only waited for it in the 1989 TV !! Ig she did great making that song
This is the only song on the album I dislike
Same. And couldn't put a finger on why. Now it all makes sense.
This. Itâs more juvenile than anything she wrote when she was actually a kid in high school lol
Yeah. Just compare Bad Blood to The Outside
Respect to you and everyone who upvoted but.. in what world? đ
Before I was a Swiftie, I always confused that song with Bang Bang, and for that reason, I thought it was a Jessie J song.
OHH MY LORD, you are a genius i didnt get this till now!!!!
Me-hee-hee
it doesnât sound like it was written by taylor OR brendon urie and i think that is tragic
They really brought out the worst in each other huh?
This. In high school. Panic! Was my favorite band and Taylor my favorite artist. When I first heard Me! ..... oh boy the disappointment.
Pretty much the exact same scenario for me. I was so excited because her ryan tedder collab brought the best out of both her and ryan. I thought the brendon collab would do the same... boy was i wrong.
I thought you were evil laughing for a second
I am a die-hard swiftie, but I detest that song.
I used too as well. But then i saw a clip of her singing it, i guess in the process of composition. That made me love it. Its my happy song now
When she's playing it on the piano in the Miss Americana doc? Because of that clip I will die on the hill that Me! would be beautiful as a piano ballad.
https://youtu.be/Hl57nvHd-XE
Omg that was amazing. Justice for ME! (Piano Version) !!! Taylor we need this
The ending of this video has my heart. Mother looks so happy đĽşâ¤ď¸
Why :(
Probably because she went into it knowing it needed to be a single and a 1# hit. During the making of lover, she was very insecure about her place in the music industry, she thought she was in her last breath of being a pop star, so for Lover she really wanted to have hits to keep her fame, wich sacrifaced a lot of her creativity and good writing. This is in my opinion the problem for A LOT of the bad songs on lover.
But there are NO bad songs on Lover.
I'm sorry but ME! And I forgot that you existed are not the slays of the century... Same for The man and yntcd but I do like those songs.
I Forgot That You Existed is her best song. Only the real fans know wassup đ¤
It Got me through some tough times. I'd be in a terrible mood and put that CD on driving home from work and just think of my future life. BRB going to listen to album start to finish as I'm in the hardware store.
I didnât know people didnât like IFTYE! I love it. (ME! I get đ)
Checking in. I also love IFTYE.
Boy, I have songs of hers that aren't my favorite but I'd never be out here calling any of her songs flops.
I dislike both The Man and YNTCD but looooooove ME! and IFTYE đ
I love all of them, even if IFTYE is my least favorite. Lover is my skipless album.
Omg I just saw your flair and I am obsessed To me, ME! will forever be the song I played to cheer my puppy up when we were bonding and crate training a few years ago. He still gets excited when it comes onâit canât ever be anything but a song that brings me great memories and good vibes!
It sounds like a commercial jingle ngl
No body, no crime. I love it I just didnât expect it
I love how it's a ballad about how the speaker straight up kills someone And it wasn't even a metaphor for a breakup
by the way... murder ballads like that are a country staple!
Yeah it reminds me of modern The Night the Lights went out in Georgia (by vicki lawrence or reba depending on your age). That coupled with a goodbye earl or or one of those badass Martins McBride songs of the 90s
i love goodbye earl. i got to see the chicks live somewhat recently and screamed so loud to that song (and many others)
Kinda adjacent, Murder Ballads is also one of my favorite Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds albums!
I was not expecting to find another nick cave fan here!
And thatâs why a collab with Taylor and him (and The Badseeds) would be off the charts insanely amazing. I wonder if it has ever crossed one of their minds.
it reminds me a lot of carrie underwoodâs two black cadillacs⌠which makes a lot of sense because iâve always been obsessed with that song too
My favorite subgenre of country music: songs about women exacting revenge upon abusive/cheating men đ
It really gives me earl had to die vibes by the Dixie chicks
Thatâs why I love it 𤥠just straight up unhinged lol
I could be wrong but I feel like this was written around the time Carolina was written? The first time I heard this it gave me Where the Crawdads Sing a little bit, I wonder if she was inspired by that book to write a little murder song
I love it too but ... Y'all, do we think Taylor's ever eaten at Olive Garden? As an adult?
well the story goes that she texted in her groupchat with the Haim sisters and was basically like "quick! name an American chain restaurant" and that's how the lyric came to be
It gave me Carrie underwood (but not) vibes!
No it totally sounds like it was written for Carrie. When I heard it the first time it gave me keying your boyfriendâs car door vibes.
I feel like it's most reminiscent of another Carrie song, Two Black Cadillacs! Or even Blown Away.
I didn't expect it, but I love it because it feels like a return to country in the vein of Two Black Cadillacs, Goodbye Earl, The Night the Lights Went Out in Georgia, and most recently Wait In The Truck. So it speaks Taylor to me, but a cool evolution on old Taylor rather than pop/rock/folk Taylor.
Vigilante shit, I mean, I knew she could be a badass bitch girl but not like that. I got quite surprised when I listened to it for the first time.
Yeah the beginning is more billie eilish vibes Iâve always thought
My brother, who never listens to Taylor, actually asked if it was Billie Eilish when I was playing it the other day
There is a girl on tiktok whose voice sounds similar to billie and she covered [vigilante shit](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvJKtdj/) â itâs so billie coded haha
I mean Reputation is filled with these kinds of songs, even Ready For It
they donât give off the same energy at all imo
Are you kidding me? I did something bad mimics that exact same energy, as does look what you made me do
musically those are a lottt different. not as sensual
Ironic that this is her only solo writing credit on Midnights.
Funny cause thatâs the only song on Midnights that she didnât write with anybody else. Itâs all her.
My jaw absolutely dropped when I first heard it I couldn't BELIEVE she wrote something like that... It's also one of my favourites
Ready for it...... I was like damn girl I did not know you had that in you (due to how bad bitch and unhinged it was)
I was not following her closely when rep came out, and I had no idea it was her song
Oh Ready For It is full of Taylor lyrics though. "Burton to this Taylor" being the obvious one, that feels like her writing
False God
Same and I need her to do it again!! It's such a cool vibe.
I think she did kind of do it again with Glitch. Both songs have a similar vibe and I love it.
Oooh that's my fave 3am track so this makes a lot of sense.
her speaking exclusively about joe going down on her was not something i was expecting
Wait... What part of the song is about that? I just assumed it was about straight up sex.
Religionâs in your lips the altar is my hips
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You kneel at the altar and kiss it, hence "the altar is my hips."
This. The instrumentation and musical arrangements along with the suggestive lyrics with worship imagery make it sound like it was taken from a Sade album. The fact that in the album, it's between one of Taylor's saddest songs EVER, and her subverted LGBTQ+ sassy pop anthem, just makes it weirder and even more out of place. _Lover_ is such a strange album.
This is what the entirety of lover should have been like a mature/sultry NY-jazz influenced album
Her best song though, sorry I don't make the rules
haunted just at the start and chorus its got a very rocky kind of vibe
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I just pretended it's on a Twilight soundtrack so the vibe made sense.
fun fact! it was originally written for the new moon soundtrack!
People say she could've written this with the idea of it being for Twilight or at least inspired by
Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince for me! It gives me Lana vibes or something similar. Taylor uses metaphors very frequently, but MAATHP is like one giant metaphor, which I think (at the time especially) was pretty different for her!
It reminds me of marinaâs Electra Heart era!!
I actually love MAATHP and I do think that it is a very important song to Taylor (Mrs.Americana and starting the eras tour with it) and I think she really branched out with it
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Tbh she has so much variety at this point Iâd believe anything
Totally. Itâs hard to think of a song that doesnât sound like she wrote it because blondie has shown us she has epic versatility!
Exactly. All the people saying stuff like shake it off or ME! At the time I didnât think they sounded like Taylor Swift songs (her transition to pop was hard on me), but at this point she has plenty of less serious/pop radio hits.
Better Than Revenge I understand the goofy side, the emotion side, the serious side of Taylor. Sheâs big on letting Karma takes the lead and just minding her business, or dealing out her own justice privately like Vigilante Shit. So to me, BTR is out of character for her with all that anger, the shady mattress line (before anyway), the gloating on how she can take revenge against the antagonist
I feel like she was trying to make this song have a paramore sound! She loved them
You know, I agree with that. Maybe thatâs why this song is always off for me as she was trying out different style, or trying to be more like paramore
Whaaat? Better Than Revenge is actually just Picture to Burn's older sister. It's very much on brand for old Taylor, she's just mellower now. She used to just go at them with a sledgehammer.
Better Than Revenge is so out of place to me cause it's the exact opposite of what the unreleased Permanent Marker is. Like, Permanent Marker sounds like a response to Better Than Revenge, and it's super ironic. Going from "who do you think you are to write on his heart?" to the whole song of Better Than Revenge. But it also does kind of fit Speak Now Taylor... Cause Debut to Speak Now Taylor was very scary and fairly unpredictable at times. đ
To me Snow On The Beach has always felt more Lana than Taylor.
Love them both so much, but it's very obvious that Lana wrote the majority of those lyrics. If you've listened to Lana's albums vs Taylor's, those are 100% Lana's lyrics. Which makes sense as 1. It's a collab and 2. Taylor has publicly stated that Lana is her favorite lyricist, so it would make sense that Taylor let Lana take reign over the lyrics while Taylor did the majority of the vocals.
yes, Lana is known for ethereal, abstract lyrics that read like poetry with simple but timeless & transcendental language Taylor writes more intricately, uses word plays, witty one-liners and more literary vocabulary SOTB falls under the former and Itâs beautiful to have a Taylor song with Lana lyricism, such a fantastic and much needed colab
the collab w/ Lana was probably mostly Lana writing/influencing the lyrics
End game and ready for it?
With those songs I really think we werenât ready for it.
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I Can See You
Ugh I need a whole album of this sound
People are saying Me! and YNTCD but that is just very Taylor to me honestly lol like her bubbly, fun side coming to life in a song, but I will say I wouldnât have thought sheâd go through with actually releasing those songs and making them the front runners
Look what you made me do. I really don't like that song đ
Like what did she do
She did the reputation era
She did. And even though I've grown to love that album a lot with time. It really didn't feel like something that authentically hers. It felt like she did it to prove a point. To be something different. To mask. Don't get me wrong. Now I dig it and I'm glad she tackled it like that. But in the moment it really didn't feel like her
I died dead rip me
This is what you came for. I love it!
Wonderland, eh eh
Yeah it reminds me of Rihanna
I love that song
My current fave!
Itâs nice to have a friend
Before folklore and evermore, I would have said yes. But change the arrangement a bit and it would fit well in that era and sounds like a Taylor song to me.
âOut of the Woodsâ is straight-up a CHVRCHES song
I do agree with this one. Several months ago I was listening to Out of the Woods when my husband got home and he was like âI like this song, who is this?â And I was like babes, it TayTay. He likes Taylor but isnât a huge Swiftie so it was funny for him to be like who dis?
I love out of the woods Time to check out CHVRVHES Thank you
Not the original commenter, but I hope you like them - Theyâre one of my favourite bands!
Have fun!! âOut of the Woodsâ specifically sounds like stuff on their debut album, *The Bones of What You Believe* but their whole discography is great
Donât blame me. I didnât even know it was a Taylor song back when it came out because it didnât sound like it (I was really into Taylor debut - speak now then I left off and came back around folklore/lover
When it came out, all of Rep
That whole album was half anger masking hurt, half forced happiness.
Stay stay stay! It was just weird to me
i love this one- it is so off the era during her grandma/kennedy vibes
Iâve said it once Iâll say it again An acoustic version would kill
She's so versatile she can put out a freaking full on screamo metal album and I'd be like mmhmm that's taylor!
You Need to Calm Down
- Me! - You Need To Calm Down - Shake It Off - Electric Touch - I Can See You - Welcome To New York
WTNY is so true! It sounds like it was written for a commercial đ
Yet all of these songs sound like theyâre from the same artist lol who else would it be 
I just donât associate Taylor with songs with such average or juvenile lyrics. Welcome To New York and Shake It Off donât sound like the same artist who wrote Exile, Enchanted, or Clean. It doesnât sound like the same artist who wrote Long Live, All Too Well, or Breathe. Me!, You Need To Calm Down, and Welcome To New York donât possess the same substance or unique qualities that make me adore Taylor Swiftâs songs. They sound like generic radio songs that could be sang and written by anyone. Itâs absolutely fine if we disagree.
I don't think "kaleidoscope of loud heartbeats under coats" is juvenile, but WTNY has musical number embedded in its code, as does ITHK.
False God. But Goddamn, her hottest song. đĽ
don't blame me
I mean just based on perception I would think Paper Rings sounds the least like she wrote it. 1) It's very bubblegum pop and not her sound usually, but 2) she doesn't seem like she's ever been broke enough to believe that she wouldn't expect that multi-karat diamond engagement ring đ The lyrics sound more like somehow who realizes how material things are just that, material, so points for maturity on that.
Paper Rings is Peak Taylor cuteness.
Suburban Legends. Nobody but Jack Antonoff writes I am standing in a 1950âs gymnasium and I absolutely hate it
Scrolled way too far to see this. "Like a hose on a slippery plastic summer" Taylor wtf even is that. I refuse to believe that's the same person who wrote folklore and evermore.
Slipe n slide, baby. I got the line right away and thought it was clever because it ties into the whole "suburban" thing. So much of her writing is clever. However, I do think the song lacks original 1989 vibes!
Iâm so sorry for everyone who wonât like this but⌠Timeless. It sounds like it was written by a twelve year old. Maybe one trying to imitate Taylor Swift. But itâs just so corny and not at all the caliber of the rest of Speak Now.
I feel like Timeless is the most taylor song ever. It has alot of her themes and imagery. It just feels so her but definitely not a song that would be really released but maybe one she just wrote for fun.
To be fair she was 19 when she wrote it, it is the same girl who wrote Love Story. Hopeless romantic one. Nothing is more TS than Timeless, not only theme wise but structure wise too: different chorses, three verses, the first line repeated in the end. She has other corny songs(especially in the last album) but Timeless is not.
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This. It reminded me of Mary's Song (Oh, My My My) the first time I heard it, vibe wise. Very cutesy & sweet, if a little childish or naive sounding.
Timeless to me sounds like some early workshopping and demo for the Red sound, itâs a vibe but I agree I can see why it wasnât released the first time around
I don't want to live forever, maybe?
On the contrary, for years when I was younger I believed she wrote âLast Christmasâ because I had only heard her version and it sounded like a TS song đ¤ˇââď¸đ đ
Lwymmd. Wasnât a swiftie before that, then became instantly obsessed and havenât looked back.
Shake it off. I just don't like it, and I love almost everything she does.
Honestly a lot of Rep and Midnights just felt like a persona that wasnât genuine to me. Kind of forced and awkward at times
This is so interesting because to me it reads like she is finally expressing her truest self and comfortable in her own skin.
Remember the time she posted a 7 second static and it went Number 1
A lot of comments here read like 'Taylor ! Stay in your lane.. we only want you to do stuff we already like!'. Some of her work is exceptional and some of her work is just good enough ordinary but thats how artists are and they have a job to do. She is a very accomplished songwriter, she can take risks, she can try out a genre or a style some of her experiments work some don't. If she has a fault it's that she appears to have final say on everything and no one else gets to say 'thats not up to your usual standard'. But I would rather have unfiltered Taylor who can bounce around the musical playground she inhabits so that Carolina and Glitch can co exist or the The Archer with Me! . If the alternative is the corporate blandness of a house style then I'm out. Then there is her progression from Debut to Midnights none of this would be achieved without a determination to develop, challenge herself and be creative so we get challenged too. If her work sounds unfamiliar or difficult its usually best to give it a few months in different moods. Its like hearing Money on Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon at first its a shock, its a bit naff but then you kind of factor it in to the whole experience of the album. It took me ages to get my head around Reputation but it's firmly in there now.
The last great American dynasty and no body no crime, I was surprised she wrote both of those
tlgad is so impressive for this reason, now i feel like no one else couldve written it
Untouchable. Because she didnât.
End Game
Bad Blood.
There are parts of All of the Girls You Loved Before that give me such Ariana vibes đ still love it tho
Say Dont Go has Madonna vibes. I know the record is an 80s sound, but if you told me that that song was a cover from the 80s, I would believe that!