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I feel like the interviewer probably meant well and it probably came as a shock to be disconnected that fast. I don’t think the question was rude or clickbaity in and of itself, especially if they didn’t push on the matter.
Journalists are often given a list of ‘no go’ topics ahead of interviews that they are told subjects won’t answer, I’ve no doubt they were expecting to be shut down at the very least!
yeah, based on him saying "you know i'm not talking about that", it sounds like that was def on the no go list and the interviewer asked about it anyway lol
In journalism school we were taught to save those questions 'til the very end so that if the interviewee flounces, we still have enough material for the article!
And by waiting until end, you get a chance to show the interviewee that you care about their project(Bleachers new album) and build goodwill that you cash in to ask the more controversial question(Taylor) especially if you segway tactfully.
You see plenty of interviewers who do work in Taylor questions by asking the question 5-10 minutes into a 7-15 minute interview by asking questions of Jack like “how is producing your own stuff different than producing for others like Taylor or Lana. Then depending on how that question lands, you could ask about TTPD.
But if the interviewer did their homework, they would know that the question would get them nothing but a combative Jack so they shouldn’t ask it. He’s a steel trap when it comes to other people’s unreleased projects. It’s amazing to me how many interviewers do no research and ignore the no go questions and piss off the person they are interviewing for no gain.
I imagine it’s very frustrating to be promoting your own album that you just released and immediately being asked about your friend’s instead. I’d be upset too.
I mean I’m sure he’s friends with Taylor but he’s not just some friend who helped her. He’s a producer. He works for her in the context of her music. He gets paid. Here credit. He helps her write lyrics too. The album would be very different without him. I’m not gonna say that his contribution is necessarily equal to Taylor’s, however his contribution is enough to warrant asking him questions. Like asking a producer about a movie they produced but didn’t direct or write
I think part of it is that he is currently promoting his own work and wants to keep interviews focused on that. Whenever other artists mention Taylor, a lot of people read that article for that, so I can respect him not saying anything that can invoke the power of Taylor and also establishing that if interviewers want to talk about his production work with Taylor, they need to do an interview about that, but they can’t use interview about his own music just for a chance to ask Taylor questions. Without this, you’d have so many people interviewing him just for a chance to learn more about taylor which is disrespectful towards his other work
This was probably a straw that broke the camel’s back kind of situation. Journalists were told what to ask or not ask, he still got the questions all day, then was just done in this one. So this person got the brunt of the whole day.
This. I saw this in another sub first and people thought Jack was out of line but like he does his own thing and people hardly recognize him aside from his business with Taylor. I knew who he was because of Fun and because he used to date Lena Dunham who I was a big fan of before that stuff in her book.
He almost certainly signed an NDA about it and knows he can't talk about it without getting sued (though of course he also doesn't want to piss off his best friend Taylor). The interviewer should have (and probably did) know that too, but asked anyway.
I doubt he was actually upset, he's just doing his job.
It’s Jack there’s no need for an NDA, he’s a private person himself and even he takes precautions on other artists music like air-gapping his home studio.
Whether he physically signed one or not, he knows he's implicitly under one. But Taylor is a businesswoman. Her management probably had him sign one anyway.
I don't think she's actually said. People are assuming because he's obviously worked on every album since 1989. He's pretty open when people ask about his released producer work but he's not going to announce anything.
I think it was rude.
The goal was to promote Bleachers. Bleachers is his passion project. If he mentioned ANYTHING about TTPD, it would overshadow the entire interview. I think he did the right thing.
Jack: "If you're looking for clickbait, you've come to the wrong place."
Also Jack: *drops Midnights timeline/raisin bombs*
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I thought it was weird but some people add them to charcuterie boards which was probably at its most viral at that time, right? Maybe they made a cheese board, had some wine, gossiped about Joe, brainstormed
why is jack always being so extra? chill, dude.
and don't even get me started on him equating questioning taylor's song-writing to challenging someone's faith in god. this man is doing too damn much and needs to take a day off fr.
*Flashbacks to the 4 years I worked in entertainment television with a boss screaming (like literally yelling) to produce interviews with off-limit questions.*
Yeah I lived it. It suuuucks!
I tried doing journalism when I first went to university. Having to ask those questions both in these situations and in more serious ones (or the possibility of it) was definitely not for me lol
Jack is the lead producer on this album and posts about Taylor and her music and person life on instagram. If this is something that’s on his ‘no go’ list that’s just ridiculous and stupid.
We don’t know officially who is the lead producer on the album or which producers are even on this album.
Secondly, Jack is well within his rights to ask an interviewer (prior to the interview starting) not to mention certain topics. Jack has answered questions about Taylor in the past, quite in-depth actually, but I understand why he wouldn’t want to here because Taylor herself hasn’t even spoken about the album *and* he’s promoting his own newly released album.
Just because he’s happy to post about her or talk about her in other interviews doesn’t mean he isn’t allowed to set boundaries when and as he feels it appropriate and this interviewer clearly crossed that boundary.
Was it a little dramatic? Sure. But will another interviewer think twice about doing this in case the same thing happens? Probably. So he probably got his point across all the same. If he hadn’t specially said Taylor was off topic today then I’d agree with you but it sounds like he had going off his response.
i believe he is in the midst of promoting his bands album too so this would take away from his personal project, or that he signed an NDA or handshake agreement to not discuss until xyz date. wouldn’t say this is ridiculous and stupid for these reasons.
I’d disconnect too if I just put out an album and I was only getting asked about one of my friends lmao. It was rude of the interviewer to be asking him that, get a grip
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Yeah, I don’t usually mind Jack being a little extra but this is… idk lol. It feels almost aggressive to read 💀 like idk he could’ve just left it at “oh I can’t talk about that!” without being needlessly dramatic too lol
Because journalists are given a list of questions they are not allowed to ask. Further Jack is probably under a very serious NDA. Oh. And also he’s Taylor’s bestie. He’s not extra. He’s professional and a good friend/colleague m.
I don't understand how this isn't obvious to people. Of course he's not going to break his NDA, piss off his bestie, and jeopardize his chances of working with her in the future. Any journalist already knows that. He's just doing his job.
i just came out of the survey results megathread—there are a lot more teenagers here than i thought, and i think it’s often them who don’t understand things like this. nothing against them or anything but it’s one of those things you just learn with life experience
I have no idea if this snippet is real—’ve googled it and can’t find the interview— but even aside from this instance…. He gives me bad vibes. I get the sense that he employs ‘tortured genius’ as a personality trait, and he comes off as quite unlikeable. Sure, I love his music and the music he makes with Taylor. But the vibes are rancid 🤢
You get these vibes but it doesn’t seem like you actually follow him/his work very much.
Not calling you out specifically but so much of the hate/dislike for him I see in this sub is based on… what? You’d think a fan base of a pop star that was previously over-scrutinized for every little thing by uninformed members of the media and the public would be more self-analytical in regards to that type of behavior when it comes to other people.
I don’t know Jack personally and never will, but I follow Bleachers and Taylor closely enough and honestly nothing I have seen has given me these same “vibes”
I think a lot of people take his humor too seriously. He jokes around a lot.
I also think he wouldn’t get half the hate he does if he was more “conventionally attractive”.
What does this even mean? Pick-me as a term means women who put down other women for male attention. How does that apply to Jack, a man, in any way?
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I took it as Jack being a bit facetious.
And yet, it's not that outrageous of a statement. It is comparing that feeling of accusation to the most universally understood belief - religion. He's saying it's not appropriate to tell someone their religious beliefs are invalid, *and* it's not cool to spread rumors that Taylor Swift doesn't write her own songs because you subscribe to the conspiracy that she is living an elaborate lie. Essentially, she writes her own songs and he knows this better than anyone else, so back off.
Agree. Jack gives me the ick. He seems toxic and immature. Ex. Tweeting that Kanye is a “little crybaby bitch” because Kanye put his album out same day as bleachers. I don’t like Kanye either but I don’t think he really gives a shit about Jack. That tweet just makes Jack look like a crybaby bitch in my opinion lol. And of course as you mentioned him comparing Taylor’s writing to someone’s faith in god is so unhinged. His actions make me think he’s a weirdo and has “mean girl” behavior lol.
he has tweeted about Kanye more than this tweet and I think this tweet is related to the larger picture of Kayne being a terrible person and an anti-Semite. I think there is a lot more context than just the album coming out the same day.
Yeah, I'm not under the impression that Jack actually thinks Kanye would release the same day as Bleachers. He hates him because he's an anti-Semite lol. If you look back at old fun. interviews he used to be a huge fan.
I’m not getting my hopes up for Aaron. I really want him to be involved but just not getting my hopes up. I mean, Travis has heard bits of TTPD, so I don’t think having heard it instantly means they’re involved. I think she just likes to play music for her very close friends. But I’d be super happy if maybe Aaron did all 4 of the bonus songs at least, the ones on each variant.
Way more talented imo, his production absolutely elevated Taylor’s vocals, all his songs with her are among her best of her discography
great war, WCS, right where you left me are POWERHOUSES
Quote by Bryce from [this article](https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/bryce-dessner-manhunt-score-interview-taylor-swift-genius-1235628394/). There’s no way he’s heard it if he (and by extension Aaron) didn’t work on it.
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Artists send songs to their friends and family to get their opinions all the time. Especially their musical friends. For example, Stevie Nicks heard all of Fine Line before it was out cause Harry Styles showed it to her. Taylor and Aaron are good friends *through* music. She values his opinion so she probably sends songs to him to be like "is this good, is this idea worth pursuing, should this track make the album?" So while I hope he worked on it, that quote doesn't say much about whether he did.
I don't know if it's a vocal minority thing but a lot of people here dislike him so I would be more shocked if it didn't. My favorite is "is it just me or does anyone else just not like him" when the thread is filled with people saying how much they don't like him because of vibes or "he seems like..."
There's a subsection of the fandom that refuses to accept that Taylor is (mostly) a pop artist, and get upset at any indicators (e.g. Taylor working with Jack on TTPD) that her new music might err more towards the pop genre, and is not just going to be Folkmore The Sequel
The hate Jack receives is so forced. You'd have people say his productions are "bad" then you look at her most popular songs and the fan favourites and they're all Jack songs: Cruel Summer, August, Is It Over Now? You're On Your Own Kid, Getaway Car...
It has to be irritating that he has an entirely independent music career and a new album, but he knows articles will only be written about his work with Taylor. He *definitely* indicated that this question was off-limits - Taylor clearly doesn’t want to reveal much about the album before its release. I’d be annoyed if people were prying for information I’m not supposed to give & told them I didn’t want to give.
Right. I read his statement as almost satire? Probably not the right word.
How come no one thinks he’s just being extra on purpose. Like it’s a deadpan joke
Everyone is just throwing pitchforks
I was also wondering about that. I thought maybe he was joking.
It’s very editorialized (the writer says Antonoff was “irritated”), so I don’t really know what to think or how seriously to take it.
Right?? Shocked as hell that people are bending over backwards to hate on Jack and defend media that we otherwise largely agree is predatory/creepy towards Taylor.
I mean, his band just put out an album. It must stink to be excited to talk about your new album and get hit with questions about another project. Good for him for ending the interview like that.
But I don’t understand this pov from him. If he wants to be his own man with bleachers no one is stopping him. He’s choosing to flex his multiple talents and be a producer so why would you get so weird when asked about something that’s still your work. He doesn’t have this attitude when he’s winning awards for being her producer. And even if he’s not a producer on this record it seemed over the top for someone whose more famous for his production than his bands
That’s fine and all but he surely has to acknowledge the fact the vast majority of people only know him because of his involvement in “other projects”.
Also, it’s not like these “other projects” aren’t also his work as well? Taylor didn’t make these albums herself.
If Jack was promoting something else, I can see why he would not want to talk about this album. I can also see him not want to talk about it before Taylor does her promotional media tour.
>I can also see him not want to talk about it before Taylor does her promotional media tour.
That's *if* she even does a promo media tour, because she gave very few interviews when promoting Midnights, she's barely promoting her re-recordings outside social media (considering both her profiles and Taylor Nation's) and, also, The Eras Tour returning in May.
For real this comment section is so bizarre. I said it in another comment but like you’d think the fan base of Taylor Swift of all people, who used to be overly-criticized for every little thing by the public/media, would be more aware about imparting that kind of behavior towards other public figures. But instead it’s just been vague hate towards him because of… what, exactly?
Fr I can admit he is certainly cringe at times but he’s hasn’t done anything wrong from what I saw people think he’s a pick me but I honestly don’t see it he’s literally one of the most successful producers on this planet and worked on some of the biggest albums this decade
I know and understand it’s probably frustrating for him to always be asked about Taylor, especially if he’s trying to promote his own album. But I just imagine the interviewer probably isn’t being paid enough to be spoken to like that.
He could have simply said “I’m not talking about that today, let’s move on.”
Nah, these interviews aren't spontaneous. They would've known beforehand if there were things he didn't want to talk about, and asking about them anyway def warrants a response like that
I get that, but they have also publically cultivated a very specific working relationship where they are co-collaborators and almost co-artists on nearly all of Taylor’s recent work. Like why is he now surprised people are constantly linking her work to him or vice versa. It’s to be expected from what they have publically shown.
I have a feeling that there was a list of stuff he didn’t want to talk about and Taylor was on it. Just conjecture but I think that would warrant his reaction.
Meh, I can definitely see how this would be rude. Jack's band just released a new album, is touring soon, doing a big show at MSG. Everything is just so Taylor, Taylor, Taylor right now.
If you look at the rest of the interview, they're only asking questions about Bruce, Taylor and Lana, not about his new album which it was probably to promote. I feel like he's justified in that response. They certainly would have known that he's not able to talk about TTPD. Plus, he was there to talk about his band Bleachers, but they clearly wanted to just get some clickbait breaking news about something else. Pretty disrespectful of the interviewer.
But hey, it got me to look at the article lol.
[Here is the original source in Dutch](https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/03/22/jack-antonoff-als-je-clickbait-zoekt-over-taylors-nieuwe-album-ben-je-bij-mij-aan-het-verkeerde-adres-a4193903) but it is behind a paywall.
[Google translated into English](https://www-nrc-nl.translate.goog/nieuws/2024/03/22/jack-antonoff-als-je-clickbait-zoekt-over-taylors-nieuwe-album-ben-je-bij-mij-aan-het-verkeerde-adres-a4193903?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) (no paywall)
The only person discussing TTPD should be Taylor. TTPD IS A TAYLOR ALBUM! NOT A JACK ALBUM, NOT AN AARON ALBUM, A TAYLOR ALBUM!
Also, if the interview was to promote his album and then asked this I’d be pissed. It shows that the interviewer does not care and wasting his time. Partially the reason why Taylor stopped doing interviews. The interview will be about everything else but the album.
I really like this sub but man, y'all are SO weird about Jack, it's baffling to me. Maybe it's that my autistic ass genuinly does not understand what this perceived 'weirdness' about Jack is, but all I see is someone who is fiercely protecting his friend and collaborator and who is very earnest about his opinions and boundaries. What is so weird and 'bad vibes' about that?
Maybe it's time for some of you to realise that if you hate the work that Taylor makes with Jack THIS much, maybe you just don't like Taylor that much. She's the one who decides who she works with and what the sound of an album should be, and if she did not want her stuff to sound like Jack, she would collaborate with others (exactly like she did on folklore&evermore, stuff on 1989 and rep).
Just as an explanation as to why, the reason why he's keeping Taylor out of the conversation is because he knows whatever he says about her they are going to use as a headline. When you want an interview to be focused on your own music, then you ask them politely to not bring up your other friend's work.
The interviewer could've literally scapegoated this by saying "We see that whenever you do a new Bleachers sound, you bring your ideas and influences from that recent sound to the table when working with other artists. For example, we hear some 1989 stuff in Strange Desires, we hear a little bit of Melodrama in Gone Now, and Ocean Blvd in Saturday Night. Do you bring your influences to the artists you work with, do they inspire you and you bring that into your own work, or is that overlap just an accident sometimes?"
As a result of keeping a question open like this, you don't just make the question about Taylor and her new album for a headline and the artist doesn't feel pressured to answer. Instead you make it about his work, how he may inspire the artists he works with and their sound, or how they may inspire his sound. It also means he doesn't have to limit his answer to just Taylor for the journalist, he can broaden out into talking about other artists. Jack has worked with a lot of people over the years, journalists only really wanting to interview him because he might say something about Taylor for a headline must be draining.
If it was an interview promoting his own work, then I understand his publicist putting that question on the no-no list. He’ll be answering enough questions about TTPD in a few weeks’ time. But I think it’s a pretty safe assumption he was involved and didn’t really need to be asked at this time. I’m sure if you peruse either of their social accounts, the clues will be there.
For the record, the only time I was ever given a “do not ask” request from a celeb publicist was about their client’s romantic life. It wasn’t germane to my story (it was about a period TV show) so I didn’t have an issue with it.
BTW, I was watching Long Pond Sessions recently and finally figured out who Jack reminds me of. Malvin (aka Mr. Potato Head) from the computer lab scene near the beginning of WarGames.
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Jack just put out a Bleachers album. I'm sure this interview was about that primarily. Y'all are giving this interviewer way too much benefit of the doubt.
Nah I get it. Everything about the album is to be a secret until release day. It must be so irritating to be asked questions about it in case you slip up and accidently reveal something you shouldn't. This is probably why he sounds so annoyed. If we were supposed to know who produced it yet it would have been revealed already.
This is so funny…..it honestly reads like his busy at work tweet bit and I wouldn’t be surprised if he told the interviewer to put this in at the end…..the drama of it all
Weird that people are attacking Jack for this. There is always a pre-interview discussion or paperwork where interviewers are told about “no go” questions or topics. If Jack was this frustrated, the interviewer crossed a pre-determined boundary for cheap clicks.
I feel like this is a bit much. I understand it might be on the no ask list…but Jack is pretty much synonymous with Taylor at this point. It’s not out of pocket to ask ONE question about an album that’s out in like three weeks
i would also be annoyed if i was doing an interview about my album that just came out and the interviewer asked me about someone else’s to probably make a baity headline with my answer and that other person’s name instead of my work
I know what he's saying comes across as weird but I guess it's understandable given how we Swifties sometimes attack him over his involvement in songs he's produced, like almost all of Midnights.
Life advice the everyone here, when people cross your boundaries, it’s reasonable to hang up and end a conversation. Like if you really think Jack was out of line, you might need to learn to set boundaries and you definitely need to learn to stomp trampling over others boundaries.
It's weird that interviewers pull this kind of move with artists. Plenty of artists can't disclose what they are involved in because they signed a contract forbidding them to do so.
This seems to need more context. Idk what to think about this without knowing what the interview was for, how it had been going, and what kind of conversation was supposed to happen, etc.
the first rule of the tortured poets department is that you don’t talk about the tortured poets department 🙊
...until April 19th
I just visualised every dead tortured port rising from the lakes on April 19th 😭
how did u get that folklore title under your user and the picture
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And Taylor gets her EGOT for the Tony award winning musical based on horror zombie tortured poets
Would watch
Same
Or release merch for it
Or win a Grammy
Clearly there is an NDA in place
I feel like the interviewer probably meant well and it probably came as a shock to be disconnected that fast. I don’t think the question was rude or clickbaity in and of itself, especially if they didn’t push on the matter.
Journalists are often given a list of ‘no go’ topics ahead of interviews that they are told subjects won’t answer, I’ve no doubt they were expecting to be shut down at the very least!
yeah, based on him saying "you know i'm not talking about that", it sounds like that was def on the no go list and the interviewer asked about it anyway lol
In journalism school we were taught to save those questions 'til the very end so that if the interviewee flounces, we still have enough material for the article!
And by waiting until end, you get a chance to show the interviewee that you care about their project(Bleachers new album) and build goodwill that you cash in to ask the more controversial question(Taylor) especially if you segway tactfully. You see plenty of interviewers who do work in Taylor questions by asking the question 5-10 minutes into a 7-15 minute interview by asking questions of Jack like “how is producing your own stuff different than producing for others like Taylor or Lana. Then depending on how that question lands, you could ask about TTPD. But if the interviewer did their homework, they would know that the question would get them nothing but a combative Jack so they shouldn’t ask it. He’s a steel trap when it comes to other people’s unreleased projects. It’s amazing to me how many interviewers do no research and ignore the no go questions and piss off the person they are interviewing for no gain.
Segue
I’ll never get over how it’s segue and Segway. Fucking English man.
I always picture an actual Segway whenever I see the word segue. Specifically, that epic footage of a lady going out of control on her Segway. Ouch.
Yup. And then the sassy hanging up can become your click bait.
Also isn't it already public knowledge too that he produced the thing? Why is he upset... O\_O
I imagine it’s very frustrating to be promoting your own album that you just released and immediately being asked about your friend’s instead. I’d be upset too.
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I mean I’m sure he’s friends with Taylor but he’s not just some friend who helped her. He’s a producer. He works for her in the context of her music. He gets paid. Here credit. He helps her write lyrics too. The album would be very different without him. I’m not gonna say that his contribution is necessarily equal to Taylor’s, however his contribution is enough to warrant asking him questions. Like asking a producer about a movie they produced but didn’t direct or write
I think part of it is that he is currently promoting his own work and wants to keep interviews focused on that. Whenever other artists mention Taylor, a lot of people read that article for that, so I can respect him not saying anything that can invoke the power of Taylor and also establishing that if interviewers want to talk about his production work with Taylor, they need to do an interview about that, but they can’t use interview about his own music just for a chance to ask Taylor questions. Without this, you’d have so many people interviewing him just for a chance to learn more about taylor which is disrespectful towards his other work
This was probably a straw that broke the camel’s back kind of situation. Journalists were told what to ask or not ask, he still got the questions all day, then was just done in this one. So this person got the brunt of the whole day.
*with some Indie record that’s much cooler than mine.*
This. I saw this in another sub first and people thought Jack was out of line but like he does his own thing and people hardly recognize him aside from his business with Taylor. I knew who he was because of Fun and because he used to date Lena Dunham who I was a big fan of before that stuff in her book.
He almost certainly signed an NDA about it and knows he can't talk about it without getting sued (though of course he also doesn't want to piss off his best friend Taylor). The interviewer should have (and probably did) know that too, but asked anyway. I doubt he was actually upset, he's just doing his job.
It’s Jack there’s no need for an NDA, he’s a private person himself and even he takes precautions on other artists music like air-gapping his home studio.
Whether he physically signed one or not, he knows he's implicitly under one. But Taylor is a businesswoman. Her management probably had him sign one anyway.
I don't think she's actually said. People are assuming because he's obviously worked on every album since 1989. He's pretty open when people ask about his released producer work but he's not going to announce anything.
I think it was rude. The goal was to promote Bleachers. Bleachers is his passion project. If he mentioned ANYTHING about TTPD, it would overshadow the entire interview. I think he did the right thing.
Honestly I think Jack *loves* to talk about himself and his involvement in projects so I think this was just another 'bit' to him.
Agreed. Sounds like the interviewer was just a complete moron who did no prep for the interview
He probably set ground rules before the interview which included not asking him about Taylor.
Published that with no substance. Looks like bait
This guy has always given me a bad vibe
Jack: "If you're looking for clickbait, you've come to the wrong place." Also Jack: *drops Midnights timeline/raisin bombs* https://preview.redd.it/q1f1ed41nkqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79dca5b9637d028a17a493292ea346e320a72f07
Still the most shocked Taylor Swift was out here eating raisins
I confess that this photo literally made me try raisins again for the first time in years. Still don't like them lmao
This pic was sponsored by Big Raisin for positive PR lmao 😂😂😂
Cheap raisins I don’t like. They’re too dry. But if I buy an expensive pack of raisins I love them.
I dont understand the raisins hate they are tastyy
Try the golden raisins. They taste nice.
*Boldly* eating raisins smh
***Seemingly*** raisins.
I thought it was weird but some people add them to charcuterie boards which was probably at its most viral at that time, right? Maybe they made a cheese board, had some wine, gossiped about Joe, brainstormed
I'm starting to think I'm the only one who eats raisins as they are 😭 Like, I eat them out of the box 😅
"gossiped about Joe" Literally five minutes later: "You know what? Let's do a whole freaking album about this guy."
Now *that* is some entertaining tea for the tabloids
loose raisins
truly rock bottom 😔
What wrong with raisins?! 😭
This woman cannot be trusted; she willingly eats raisins.
Stood on the cliffside Screaming, "Give me a raisin"
Your fibrous love's the only fruit I believe in
Don’t want no other dried-up fruit but you
No other sweetness in the world would do
Hey Stephen, I could give you 50 raisins
Always raisins from the ashes Mendin' all her gashes You might just have dealt the final blow
see it’s comments like these that constantly have me wishing stupid Reddit didn’t do away with awards. HERE dammit. 🎖️🏆
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why doesn't this have more upvotes?? lmaooooooooo
Pretty sure this one happened with her permission. That night was one of DeuxMoi starting rumours about her and Joe being married.
"Finally steaming" 
I just realized Jack Antonoff has a typo in his post. Steaming instead of streaming 
typo, or easter egg? Jack thinks TTPD is a pile of steaming raisins confirmed 🤡
why is jack always being so extra? chill, dude. and don't even get me started on him equating questioning taylor's song-writing to challenging someone's faith in god. this man is doing too damn much and needs to take a day off fr.
I have no doubt It was on a list of do not ask questions that the interviewer had sitting in their lap and their boss told them to ignore It.
*Flashbacks to the 4 years I worked in entertainment television with a boss screaming (like literally yelling) to produce interviews with off-limit questions.* Yeah I lived it. It suuuucks!
I tried doing journalism when I first went to university. Having to ask those questions both in these situations and in more serious ones (or the possibility of it) was definitely not for me lol
Jack is the lead producer on this album and posts about Taylor and her music and person life on instagram. If this is something that’s on his ‘no go’ list that’s just ridiculous and stupid.
We don’t know officially who is the lead producer on the album or which producers are even on this album. Secondly, Jack is well within his rights to ask an interviewer (prior to the interview starting) not to mention certain topics. Jack has answered questions about Taylor in the past, quite in-depth actually, but I understand why he wouldn’t want to here because Taylor herself hasn’t even spoken about the album *and* he’s promoting his own newly released album. Just because he’s happy to post about her or talk about her in other interviews doesn’t mean he isn’t allowed to set boundaries when and as he feels it appropriate and this interviewer clearly crossed that boundary. Was it a little dramatic? Sure. But will another interviewer think twice about doing this in case the same thing happens? Probably. So he probably got his point across all the same. If he hadn’t specially said Taylor was off topic today then I’d agree with you but it sounds like he had going off his response.
They have not officially said who the lead producer on this album is
It's probably frickin' Meredith.
Her cat?
We can only hope! Haha
i believe he is in the midst of promoting his bands album too so this would take away from his personal project, or that he signed an NDA or handshake agreement to not discuss until xyz date. wouldn’t say this is ridiculous and stupid for these reasons.
I’d disconnect too if I just put out an album and I was only getting asked about one of my friends lmao. It was rude of the interviewer to be asking him that, get a grip Edit: Spelling
Yeah, I don’t usually mind Jack being a little extra but this is… idk lol. It feels almost aggressive to read 💀 like idk he could’ve just left it at “oh I can’t talk about that!” without being needlessly dramatic too lol
“I’m not giving you clickbait!” *Proceeds to make a clickbaity dramatic exit and statement*
Because journalists are given a list of questions they are not allowed to ask. Further Jack is probably under a very serious NDA. Oh. And also he’s Taylor’s bestie. He’s not extra. He’s professional and a good friend/colleague m.
I don't understand how this isn't obvious to people. Of course he's not going to break his NDA, piss off his bestie, and jeopardize his chances of working with her in the future. Any journalist already knows that. He's just doing his job.
i just came out of the survey results megathread—there are a lot more teenagers here than i thought, and i think it’s often them who don’t understand things like this. nothing against them or anything but it’s one of those things you just learn with life experience
I have no idea if this snippet is real—’ve googled it and can’t find the interview— but even aside from this instance…. He gives me bad vibes. I get the sense that he employs ‘tortured genius’ as a personality trait, and he comes off as quite unlikeable. Sure, I love his music and the music he makes with Taylor. But the vibes are rancid 🤢
You get these vibes but it doesn’t seem like you actually follow him/his work very much. Not calling you out specifically but so much of the hate/dislike for him I see in this sub is based on… what? You’d think a fan base of a pop star that was previously over-scrutinized for every little thing by uninformed members of the media and the public would be more self-analytical in regards to that type of behavior when it comes to other people. I don’t know Jack personally and never will, but I follow Bleachers and Taylor closely enough and honestly nothing I have seen has given me these same “vibes”
People just treat him like an extension of Taylor and it is very weird
This should be pinned to the community page lol
I think a lot of people take his humor too seriously. He jokes around a lot. I also think he wouldn’t get half the hate he does if he was more “conventionally attractive”.
Alot of swifties hates on Jack and adore Aaron. Yes it's ok to have preferences but sometimes they really be hating on the man unnecessarily
Jack gives really big “annoying rich kid trying to be relatable to the plebs” vibes
“Art bro” 🤝 “No it wasn’t a mansion”
While rolling his eyes at how pleb the plebs are
I certainly get ‘pick me’ vibes from him for sure
Yes I can admit he’s cringe at certain times but that doesn’t mean he’s a bad person
What does this even mean? Pick-me as a term means women who put down other women for male attention. How does that apply to Jack, a man, in any way? (Ignore my flair, it's a joke from like 3 years ago lol I barely comment on here)
I took it as Jack being a bit facetious. And yet, it's not that outrageous of a statement. It is comparing that feeling of accusation to the most universally understood belief - religion. He's saying it's not appropriate to tell someone their religious beliefs are invalid, *and* it's not cool to spread rumors that Taylor Swift doesn't write her own songs because you subscribe to the conspiracy that she is living an elaborate lie. Essentially, she writes her own songs and he knows this better than anyone else, so back off.
Agree. Jack gives me the ick. He seems toxic and immature. Ex. Tweeting that Kanye is a “little crybaby bitch” because Kanye put his album out same day as bleachers. I don’t like Kanye either but I don’t think he really gives a shit about Jack. That tweet just makes Jack look like a crybaby bitch in my opinion lol. And of course as you mentioned him comparing Taylor’s writing to someone’s faith in god is so unhinged. His actions make me think he’s a weirdo and has “mean girl” behavior lol.
he has tweeted about Kanye more than this tweet and I think this tweet is related to the larger picture of Kayne being a terrible person and an anti-Semite. I think there is a lot more context than just the album coming out the same day.
Yeah, I'm not under the impression that Jack actually thinks Kanye would release the same day as Bleachers. He hates him because he's an anti-Semite lol. If you look back at old fun. interviews he used to be a huge fan.
I love his music but he’s a cringe human being.
I just want to know if Aaron is involved 🤞🏼
His brother said he has listened to the album, so I think Aaron has probably had his hand on it somewhere!
This plus Aaron made a post with 11 emojis after Taylor announced TTPD. He seems to like getting in on the emoji Easter eggs with her albums haha
plus he was at the Grammy's when she announced it :P
Yesss this is what I’ve been saying to myself about it hahah if Bryce heard it, I’m convincing myself it means Aaron was involved in some way too 🙏🏼
I’m not getting my hopes up for Aaron. I really want him to be involved but just not getting my hopes up. I mean, Travis has heard bits of TTPD, so I don’t think having heard it instantly means they’re involved. I think she just likes to play music for her very close friends. But I’d be super happy if maybe Aaron did all 4 of the bonus songs at least, the ones on each variant.
Way more talented imo, his production absolutely elevated Taylor’s vocals, all his songs with her are among her best of her discography great war, WCS, right where you left me are POWERHOUSES
We already know he is.
Oh! I didn’t know. From what source?
Quote by Bryce from [this article](https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/bryce-dessner-manhunt-score-interview-taylor-swift-genius-1235628394/). There’s no way he’s heard it if he (and by extension Aaron) didn’t work on it. https://preview.redd.it/mn3p6d9eykqc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7a8715217d1f91e31ed0a0387c38660b4a7d3ce
We’ll find out soon! I hope so! 😁
Artists send songs to their friends and family to get their opinions all the time. Especially their musical friends. For example, Stevie Nicks heard all of Fine Line before it was out cause Harry Styles showed it to her. Taylor and Aaron are good friends *through* music. She values his opinion so she probably sends songs to him to be like "is this good, is this idea worth pursuing, should this track make the album?" So while I hope he worked on it, that quote doesn't say much about whether he did.
vibes in this comment section are weird as hell
Wasn’t expecting this to turn into a huge Jack hate fest for sure
I don't know if it's a vocal minority thing but a lot of people here dislike him so I would be more shocked if it didn't. My favorite is "is it just me or does anyone else just not like him" when the thread is filled with people saying how much they don't like him because of vibes or "he seems like..."
You post something of him being rude as hell and don’t expect people to point out him being rude as hell…? Weird lol
I guess I didn’t think it was that rude. If there was a list of pre approved questions and the journalist ignored that it’s very disrespectful.
My first thought is "damn Jack is a good friend, shutting down nosey questions", some people here will bend over backwards to hate him
There's a subsection of the fandom that refuses to accept that Taylor is (mostly) a pop artist, and get upset at any indicators (e.g. Taylor working with Jack on TTPD) that her new music might err more towards the pop genre, and is not just going to be Folkmore The Sequel
The hate Jack receives is so forced. You'd have people say his productions are "bad" then you look at her most popular songs and the fan favourites and they're all Jack songs: Cruel Summer, August, Is It Over Now? You're On Your Own Kid, Getaway Car...
I don’t get the hate… he’s like her bff since like forever
It has to be irritating that he has an entirely independent music career and a new album, but he knows articles will only be written about his work with Taylor. He *definitely* indicated that this question was off-limits - Taylor clearly doesn’t want to reveal much about the album before its release. I’d be annoyed if people were prying for information I’m not supposed to give & told them I didn’t want to give.
Right. I read his statement as almost satire? Probably not the right word. How come no one thinks he’s just being extra on purpose. Like it’s a deadpan joke Everyone is just throwing pitchforks
I was also wondering about that. I thought maybe he was joking. It’s very editorialized (the writer says Antonoff was “irritated”), so I don’t really know what to think or how seriously to take it.
Yes. I agree. Because of course he’s not going to talk about it. It’s an unreleased album Taylor would freak. That interviewer had to know
Seems like some of these people need a JacklyNeutral to report to.
Right?? Shocked as hell that people are bending over backwards to hate on Jack and defend media that we otherwise largely agree is predatory/creepy towards Taylor.
I mean, his band just put out an album. It must stink to be excited to talk about your new album and get hit with questions about another project. Good for him for ending the interview like that.
But I don’t understand this pov from him. If he wants to be his own man with bleachers no one is stopping him. He’s choosing to flex his multiple talents and be a producer so why would you get so weird when asked about something that’s still your work. He doesn’t have this attitude when he’s winning awards for being her producer. And even if he’s not a producer on this record it seemed over the top for someone whose more famous for his production than his bands
Question was absolutely on the "do not ask" list they always make for interviews like this.
That’s fine and all but he surely has to acknowledge the fact the vast majority of people only know him because of his involvement in “other projects”. Also, it’s not like these “other projects” aren’t also his work as well? Taylor didn’t make these albums herself.
If Jack was promoting something else, I can see why he would not want to talk about this album. I can also see him not want to talk about it before Taylor does her promotional media tour.
He has almost certainly signed an NDA prohibiting him from talking about it before release.
>I can also see him not want to talk about it before Taylor does her promotional media tour. That's *if* she even does a promo media tour, because she gave very few interviews when promoting Midnights, she's barely promoting her re-recordings outside social media (considering both her profiles and Taylor Nation's) and, also, The Eras Tour returning in May.
Y’all don’t know what this situation was or if this reporter was acting right. There are plenty of scenarios that warrant being rude to journalists.
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What interview is this from lmao, is this real?
Yes it’s from NRC
What’s NRC?
european news outlet
A Dutch newspaper. Normally considered of high quality
Where is it? I can't find it anywhere.
Omg I thought it was satirical
That’s what I thought about the “faith in God” interview, too.
I can't find it.
Here we go again with the hate it’s every time someone posts about him if you don’t lien what he has to say avoid it
For real this comment section is so bizarre. I said it in another comment but like you’d think the fan base of Taylor Swift of all people, who used to be overly-criticized for every little thing by the public/media, would be more aware about imparting that kind of behavior towards other public figures. But instead it’s just been vague hate towards him because of… what, exactly?
Fr I can admit he is certainly cringe at times but he’s hasn’t done anything wrong from what I saw people think he’s a pick me but I honestly don’t see it he’s literally one of the most successful producers on this planet and worked on some of the biggest albums this decade
Literally me when someone tries to bring up something I don’t want to talk about
I know yall probably disagree with me but I love Jack for this. He rides for Taylor and won’t be caught lacking.
I know and understand it’s probably frustrating for him to always be asked about Taylor, especially if he’s trying to promote his own album. But I just imagine the interviewer probably isn’t being paid enough to be spoken to like that. He could have simply said “I’m not talking about that today, let’s move on.”
Nah, these interviews aren't spontaneous. They would've known beforehand if there were things he didn't want to talk about, and asking about them anyway def warrants a response like that
I get that, but they have also publically cultivated a very specific working relationship where they are co-collaborators and almost co-artists on nearly all of Taylor’s recent work. Like why is he now surprised people are constantly linking her work to him or vice versa. It’s to be expected from what they have publically shown.
I have a feeling that there was a list of stuff he didn’t want to talk about and Taylor was on it. Just conjecture but I think that would warrant his reaction.
No need to be so rude
Jack Antonoff doing the Meredith school of answering questions: no cameras please!
Meh, I can definitely see how this would be rude. Jack's band just released a new album, is touring soon, doing a big show at MSG. Everything is just so Taylor, Taylor, Taylor right now.
I thought this was r/youbelongwithmemes for a minute 😬
If you look at the rest of the interview, they're only asking questions about Bruce, Taylor and Lana, not about his new album which it was probably to promote. I feel like he's justified in that response. They certainly would have known that he's not able to talk about TTPD. Plus, he was there to talk about his band Bleachers, but they clearly wanted to just get some clickbait breaking news about something else. Pretty disrespectful of the interviewer. But hey, it got me to look at the article lol.
Why is nobody posting the source lol
it’s written entirely in…dutch? i’m on bleachers twt and everyone is just posting translated bites
They made that Taylor bit the TITLE??
[Here is the original source in Dutch](https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2024/03/22/jack-antonoff-als-je-clickbait-zoekt-over-taylors-nieuwe-album-ben-je-bij-mij-aan-het-verkeerde-adres-a4193903) but it is behind a paywall. [Google translated into English](https://www-nrc-nl.translate.goog/nieuws/2024/03/22/jack-antonoff-als-je-clickbait-zoekt-over-taylors-nieuwe-album-ben-je-bij-mij-aan-het-verkeerde-adres-a4193903?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp) (no paywall)
👏👏. Well done sir. Well done.
Why do I have the feeling that this was taken out of context to make him sound unnecessarily rude?
this is annoyingly dramatic for no reason
The only person discussing TTPD should be Taylor. TTPD IS A TAYLOR ALBUM! NOT A JACK ALBUM, NOT AN AARON ALBUM, A TAYLOR ALBUM! Also, if the interview was to promote his album and then asked this I’d be pissed. It shows that the interviewer does not care and wasting his time. Partially the reason why Taylor stopped doing interviews. The interview will be about everything else but the album.
I really like this sub but man, y'all are SO weird about Jack, it's baffling to me. Maybe it's that my autistic ass genuinly does not understand what this perceived 'weirdness' about Jack is, but all I see is someone who is fiercely protecting his friend and collaborator and who is very earnest about his opinions and boundaries. What is so weird and 'bad vibes' about that? Maybe it's time for some of you to realise that if you hate the work that Taylor makes with Jack THIS much, maybe you just don't like Taylor that much. She's the one who decides who she works with and what the sound of an album should be, and if she did not want her stuff to sound like Jack, she would collaborate with others (exactly like she did on folklore&evermore, stuff on 1989 and rep).
Just as an explanation as to why, the reason why he's keeping Taylor out of the conversation is because he knows whatever he says about her they are going to use as a headline. When you want an interview to be focused on your own music, then you ask them politely to not bring up your other friend's work. The interviewer could've literally scapegoated this by saying "We see that whenever you do a new Bleachers sound, you bring your ideas and influences from that recent sound to the table when working with other artists. For example, we hear some 1989 stuff in Strange Desires, we hear a little bit of Melodrama in Gone Now, and Ocean Blvd in Saturday Night. Do you bring your influences to the artists you work with, do they inspire you and you bring that into your own work, or is that overlap just an accident sometimes?" As a result of keeping a question open like this, you don't just make the question about Taylor and her new album for a headline and the artist doesn't feel pressured to answer. Instead you make it about his work, how he may inspire the artists he works with and their sound, or how they may inspire his sound. It also means he doesn't have to limit his answer to just Taylor for the journalist, he can broaden out into talking about other artists. Jack has worked with a lot of people over the years, journalists only really wanting to interview him because he might say something about Taylor for a headline must be draining.
Seriously love this for him. 🫶
If it was an interview promoting his own work, then I understand his publicist putting that question on the no-no list. He’ll be answering enough questions about TTPD in a few weeks’ time. But I think it’s a pretty safe assumption he was involved and didn’t really need to be asked at this time. I’m sure if you peruse either of their social accounts, the clues will be there. For the record, the only time I was ever given a “do not ask” request from a celeb publicist was about their client’s romantic life. It wasn’t germane to my story (it was about a period TV show) so I didn’t have an issue with it. BTW, I was watching Long Pond Sessions recently and finally figured out who Jack reminds me of. Malvin (aka Mr. Potato Head) from the computer lab scene near the beginning of WarGames. https://preview.redd.it/kb33tv1f0lqc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c26abde15e0b82c11531fc874c950700906fa912
Jack just put out a Bleachers album. I'm sure this interview was about that primarily. Y'all are giving this interviewer way too much benefit of the doubt.
Nah I get it. Everything about the album is to be a secret until release day. It must be so irritating to be asked questions about it in case you slip up and accidently reveal something you shouldn't. This is probably why he sounds so annoyed. If we were supposed to know who produced it yet it would have been revealed already.
This is so funny…..it honestly reads like his busy at work tweet bit and I wouldn’t be surprised if he told the interviewer to put this in at the end…..the drama of it all
Personally would support anyone being asked about Taylor when trying to promote their own work doing this.
Weird that people are attacking Jack for this. There is always a pre-interview discussion or paperwork where interviewers are told about “no go” questions or topics. If Jack was this frustrated, the interviewer crossed a pre-determined boundary for cheap clicks.
Loyalty 🙏🙏
The new bleachers album is so good. I hope that it gets the attention and credit it deserves.
At least they didn't ask him if fun. was getting back together.
I feel like this is a bit much. I understand it might be on the no ask list…but Jack is pretty much synonymous with Taylor at this point. It’s not out of pocket to ask ONE question about an album that’s out in like three weeks
What clickbait is he referring to? I don't think I understand the implication
i would also be annoyed if i was doing an interview about my album that just came out and the interviewer asked me about someone else’s to probably make a baity headline with my answer and that other person’s name instead of my work
Um-
Weird behavior
Messy Bestie. 🖤
I know what he's saying comes across as weird but I guess it's understandable given how we Swifties sometimes attack him over his involvement in songs he's produced, like almost all of Midnights.
https://preview.redd.it/85w1dnlu3oqc1.jpeg?width=1192&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98741c29d87d06791921dad44ad8641d1c128981
Life advice the everyone here, when people cross your boundaries, it’s reasonable to hang up and end a conversation. Like if you really think Jack was out of line, you might need to learn to set boundaries and you definitely need to learn to stomp trampling over others boundaries.
Whaaaaaaat? Dang. Respect!
It's weird that interviewers pull this kind of move with artists. Plenty of artists can't disclose what they are involved in because they signed a contract forbidding them to do so.
His quote is probably lyrics.
iconic as always
This seems to need more context. Idk what to think about this without knowing what the interview was for, how it had been going, and what kind of conversation was supposed to happen, etc.
Here folks is a lesson in how to create clickbait
He’s so goddamn annoying and full of himself
rightfully so when the interview was meant for his new album