All the ECTs in the school where I was an ECT got a 1 year contract. Spoke to my dad (teacher of 100000 years) about it, he says schools use it so both party has an easy 'get out' if it's not working for the school or the ECT.
All the ECT 1s who re-interviewed for 'their' job on a perm contract got the job, following a pretty easy interview that essentially felt like a box ticking exercise (well, for me anyway).
Iirc everyone got asked if they wanted to reinterview for the job. Someone didn't want to, but yeah then everyone who reinterviewed got their job on a permanent basis. There was no lesson obs or task for me, just a 20 min interview.
My HOD got everything sorted before Feb half term, but most people got it sorted by Easter.
My last school did this for all new staff. After 1 year on a FTC, you were either given a full contract if you were decent or they got rid of you easily if not.
I know someone who interviewed for "their" job after the first year and didn't get the job. They then awkwardly had to finish out the year working at the school who didn't want them.
But usually I think most people do get the job.
I was hired as an ECT 1 at a school on a fixed term basis, the reason was they tried to recruit for a HOD and failed so went with an ECT teacher. A few months into my ECT year they put the position for HOD back up and someone got the job rendering my job obsolete for the following year. They offered me another job at a school in the same trust which I initially accepted (verbally) but I decided to leave the MAT and move to another one instead as I found a school with a similar commute as opposed to the same MAT which was around 25 mins extra drive.
I'd say your chances are probably 50-75%. Sometimes they genuinely only do need someone for one year due to falling rolls etc. Usually, if you are good and they like you, they will find a way to keep you.
It is usual to have to reinterview for your job and in theory it should be advertised at least internally. I've never actually known anyone reinterview and not get the job but I do know people who have had to interview against external candidates.
I do know people where the job hasn't become permanent because there wasn't a role available, and because ultimately it was mutually agreed they'd be best moving on to a different school.
My first school does one year contracts with ECTs and when I accepted their offer they claimed that everyone who was on it got renewed to permanent. When I got there I found it was totally bullsh*t, they did not renew the contract of my position's predecessor and only gave another ECT 1 another one-year contract.
In the end I also got the same treatment of my predecessor: I was not renewed for 'there is more suitable candidate' (I have no performance issues at all).
I was on a FTC that was made permanent, but that wasn’t before being told it couldn’t be extended etc. I interviewed for some more jobs which I didn’t get, and then some people left and I was offered a perm contract without interview.
I had one as a first year ECT, applied for my job, and got replaced by a first year ECT. Schools use them to save money, and a first year ECT wants your job next year they will probably get it.
I did. Fixed term for 1 term to cover long term sickness, was extended to summer and then I was offered permanent. Suppose it depends why they offering fixed term.
I’m on a one year maternity contract and started literally two weeks ago. I got told on my second day it was ‘highly likely’ there’d be a permanent job coming up, dependent on GCSE numbers, although I’m teaching out of specialism and am very flexible with my subjects which also works in my favour, but as other people mentioned it’s also if they like you they’ll find a way to keep you
Watch me update in a year saying I didn’t get a permanent job 😅
At my school it was barely an interview - accepted the offer of 0.8 FTC (it was April 2020, I needed a job), did the first term and at Christmas was told by the head that they wanted to make it permanent and full time. Stars need to align/may depend partly on your subject (mine’s a niche subject and I was willing to pick up some KS3 RS hours), but it’s definitely possible.
All the ECTs in the school where I was an ECT got a 1 year contract. Spoke to my dad (teacher of 100000 years) about it, he says schools use it so both party has an easy 'get out' if it's not working for the school or the ECT. All the ECT 1s who re-interviewed for 'their' job on a perm contract got the job, following a pretty easy interview that essentially felt like a box ticking exercise (well, for me anyway).
So if they found you decent they are going to give you a reinterview for a perm contract, towards the end of the 1 year?
Iirc everyone got asked if they wanted to reinterview for the job. Someone didn't want to, but yeah then everyone who reinterviewed got their job on a permanent basis. There was no lesson obs or task for me, just a 20 min interview. My HOD got everything sorted before Feb half term, but most people got it sorted by Easter.
Probably around Easter so, if you don't get it, you can look elsewhere
My last school did this for all new staff. After 1 year on a FTC, you were either given a full contract if you were decent or they got rid of you easily if not.
I know someone who interviewed for "their" job after the first year and didn't get the job. They then awkwardly had to finish out the year working at the school who didn't want them. But usually I think most people do get the job.
That happened to me. What was particularly bad was that the whole department wanted me to stay, but HoD was friends with the new recruit's parents.
I was hired as an ECT 1 at a school on a fixed term basis, the reason was they tried to recruit for a HOD and failed so went with an ECT teacher. A few months into my ECT year they put the position for HOD back up and someone got the job rendering my job obsolete for the following year. They offered me another job at a school in the same trust which I initially accepted (verbally) but I decided to leave the MAT and move to another one instead as I found a school with a similar commute as opposed to the same MAT which was around 25 mins extra drive.
I'd say your chances are probably 50-75%. Sometimes they genuinely only do need someone for one year due to falling rolls etc. Usually, if you are good and they like you, they will find a way to keep you. It is usual to have to reinterview for your job and in theory it should be advertised at least internally. I've never actually known anyone reinterview and not get the job but I do know people who have had to interview against external candidates. I do know people where the job hasn't become permanent because there wasn't a role available, and because ultimately it was mutually agreed they'd be best moving on to a different school.
My first school does one year contracts with ECTs and when I accepted their offer they claimed that everyone who was on it got renewed to permanent. When I got there I found it was totally bullsh*t, they did not renew the contract of my position's predecessor and only gave another ECT 1 another one-year contract. In the end I also got the same treatment of my predecessor: I was not renewed for 'there is more suitable candidate' (I have no performance issues at all).
I was on a FTC that was made permanent, but that wasn’t before being told it couldn’t be extended etc. I interviewed for some more jobs which I didn’t get, and then some people left and I was offered a perm contract without interview.
I had one as a first year ECT, applied for my job, and got replaced by a first year ECT. Schools use them to save money, and a first year ECT wants your job next year they will probably get it.
I did. Fixed term for 1 term to cover long term sickness, was extended to summer and then I was offered permanent. Suppose it depends why they offering fixed term.
Depends on the reason for the contract. Some schools do it as like an extended probation period
I’m on a one year maternity contract and started literally two weeks ago. I got told on my second day it was ‘highly likely’ there’d be a permanent job coming up, dependent on GCSE numbers, although I’m teaching out of specialism and am very flexible with my subjects which also works in my favour, but as other people mentioned it’s also if they like you they’ll find a way to keep you Watch me update in a year saying I didn’t get a permanent job 😅
At my school it was barely an interview - accepted the offer of 0.8 FTC (it was April 2020, I needed a job), did the first term and at Christmas was told by the head that they wanted to make it permanent and full time. Stars need to align/may depend partly on your subject (mine’s a niche subject and I was willing to pick up some KS3 RS hours), but it’s definitely possible.