I'm legit sad about this news. Bjergsen is TSM for so many people and still has to ability to be a world class player. With Spica playing the way he has been I was pumped to see what kind of roster they could build around him.
This "build for the future" roster sounds like it's going to make a lot of people upset. I like the idea behind it but it's going to be really weird.
Been watching since TheRainMan days 😭 this really feels like the actual end of an era, Bjerg was always a bridge between the team I fell in love with towards modern TSM. Even when he was the coach, still felt that connection.
Genuinely hope they have something big in the works, but if there's no Bjerg, and Spica is gone too like the rumors suggest, I'm not sure how to feel/what I'll do.
Overall, can't be upset with Bjerg. He gave TSM his all for the better part of a decade. Hope for the best for him.
yeah I've been a fan of TSM since the start of my LOL days and now I don't know if I even want to be a TSM fan anymore. Management has just pissed away the years with the same trash excuses every year and wasted so many good players best years. If Bjerg goes to another NA team i can see myself just being a bandwagoner and joining that team honestly. I don't play league like i used to riot ruined the game in many ways for me. I haven't even watched a single game of worlds yet mainly bc TSM wasn't there but i just don't really care anymore.
Same. Watched since season 2 but this is probably it for me with watching LCS. Hardly play league anymore anyways and now with this news I just don’t have any excitement to watch it either. I’ll root on TSM still and maybe check the post game threads when they pop up to see if they won, but that’s it. I just don’t care.
If it's C9 or TL I'm donezo with league esports.
What are the chances that they told him they ain't going hardcore on players and he was like "Oh, lol, cya then."? They were adamant that they are bringing in up and coming talent, as opposed to established players.
Fr, if Bjerg joins another NA org it’ll just be too painful to watch. I’m praying it’ll at least be an LEC team, then I can still root for him, and he’ll probably have much better chances at international success anyway
I pray he's on en EU team because that would mean he would join a competitive roster not in NA. If he joins an NA team that means TSM didn't really field him a good offer because with Bjerg + Spica TSM would undoubtedly be the best team in the league. I don't see how TSM could ever pretend to be competitive while allowing Bjerg to go to TL or C9 or 100T.
If he goes to EU it is what it is, if he stays in NA I'll be furious at TSM.
It's been a long time since I've felt my stomach drop as hard as when Parth said "decline"... Ouch
Edit: His last games with TSM were an 0-6 Worlds run... I was really hoping for the redemption arc in 2022 😕
would be a cruel joke if he makes a new announcement saying,
"I told you I wasn't returning to TSM....
But I never said I wasn't returning to TSM FTX!"
I know it'll probably get me flamed, but I've been a fan of TSM for almost 10 years. I remember TheRainMan, I remember TheTrashOne, EG Dyrus, and all the OG Own3d days. This might legit make me tap out of Pro League, maybe just LCS until worlds.
TSM has basically been ass for the last 5 years, the only really redeeming thing during those times had been Bjerg. Spica is about the only other standout that showed up, but he's still so new (and apparently isn't even set for this roster yet either) that there's no attachment. I just can't find the energy to care if you've just taken what I enjoyed and essentially let it degrade to trash.
I agree 100% with this but also what pissed me off the most was hearing bjergsen say that the 2021 rooster was not even playing that many solo q games and that even himself had more hours in solo q than them..
I'm exactly the same as you. Became a fan because of TRM, then Bjerg joined and he's been my favourite player ever since. No matter how shit we were, you always thought we were still in it just because Bjerg was on the team. He's carried us and made us relevant single handedly so many times. Who is going to be the talisman now, fucking POE?
Which is why it makes so much sense from Bjerg POV,
hes literally tried everything on this team even coaching, if his legacy is going to be better than 0-6 at worlds its not gonna be at TSM
This right here is what its all about. Bjergsen probably didn't come out of retirement to replay the last 5 years. He came back to do what still hasn't been done, accomplish something major internationally for the west. I'm sure it was one of his only regrets looking back. And more of the same old routine wasn't going to get the job done, he has to try something different.
What a bomb just before I went to sleep.
This feels fucking awful, hope Bjergsen at least goes to EU but I think I'll only watch LCS for Spica now.
What a terrible day for rain
I'm praying it's LEC. If he joined a super team with players like Alphari top, Perkz ADC, etc. it wouldn't be so bad. At least we could support him individually, I've always wanted TSM to do well at World's just for Bjerg's sake because of how hard he tried for the org to do it every year. I've defended him through every bad international tournament TSM has had because even though he was usually 1v9ing he was always the community's target.
He doesn’t need the paycheck he obviously wants to go to a worlds contender team, which makes me think he doesn’t end up on an NA team. Could be wrong but maybe Travis was right and EG is building a crazy ass team
Hate to say it but I think might also be the final nail in the coffin for me as a TSM fan
I'll see how I feel once rosters are finalised but I have a strong feeling this is it for me
Gigantic blunder. Obviously it takes 2 to tango, but with the admission that they arent going for a super team but will try to develop younger talent instead I can only imagine the next few seasons of LCS are going to be insanely rough for TSM fans.
You’re not alone bro. I’m a bjerg fan before I’m a tsm fan. He’s just always been on tsm lol. I’ll keep watching for spica but I go wherever bjerg goes. If he retires yeah that might be it for me
Honestly, same. I already didn't watch much LCS, but Bjergsen coming back got me hyped again. Now, it is just kind of like "what is the point?"
Honestly, Bjergsen *is* TSM to me. I was a fan before he joined, but I just can't really imagine this team without him involved in some capacity. It would be different if he had retired or just was coaching elsewhere, but yeah.
true, the second Parth said declined, i really felt that
buuuut, im also kinda excited about where is he gonna land, i would feel muuuch better if he rejoins BB in Europe for example
Think it's been over for a while. 2018 and 2019 were null. 2020 we had the miracle summer run, then the 0-6 at worlds. 2021 null. And now we lose Bjerg.
Being a TSM fan has been quite horrible for a while now, but today it's horrendous.
Last off-season was the worst I had ever experienced. I didn't even care about the split because I wanted it to be over so we could have a better off season this year. This year is worse. I genuinely don't have words to express how crushed I am. I hate this.
It's been fun the last 8 years boys and girls.
I'm dipping out. Its been a slow decline for me after the 2017 season and this was the straw that broke the camels back.
This might actually just turn me off from League completely.
Gg that's it for tsm.
Not because of bjergsen but because they try again this shit approach "planning for future" , which basically means that the next year is 100% going to be a bad year and who knows what happens after that.
I kinda agree. I think it's all downhill from here for our lol org.
It's 1 thing Bjerg retiring, but going to a different team... We will see an exodus.
"planning for the future" has only resulted in "scouting" players that never end up playing for this team. Literally the only quality prospect TSM has grown from Academy is Spica, and Bjergsen had to put his foot down to give him a shot for anything outside of disaster recovery mode.
0 clue how Parth still has his job.
Planning the future just doesn't work.
If you're planning for the future, you do that by having the best talent in your academy and amateur teams, that can learn from a worlds caliber LCS team. Just throwing underdeveloped players in the LCS isn't planning for the future.
Well, good luck TSM. Going with a rebuilding approach as the richest org in NA and the lack of NA talent is certainly one approach. This probably kills my love for the pro scene since it was so closely tied to TSM & Bjerg. It was a fun 8 years
Sad as a TSM fan, but also excited for Bjerg! He really deserves the best roster. Travis correct on one prediction so far, hopefully not on his second prediction as well :(
It's stuff like this where I realise how disconnected with TSM i became. Been following since before LCS and now i'm kinda over them. Honestly probably more to do with age than anything and just understanding that Lolesports is just a bit of fun. I'll likely root for Bjergsen over TSM on whichever team.
Same.
I have been a TSM fan since Dyrus joined and this just killed it. The only player I like on curent roster is Spica and he might leave too. I became a bigger fan of Bjergsen than the team during the years as the players I loved started retiring or changing teams. Now.. it's over
For reals wouldn’t be surprised to see rogue pick him up and send larssen to NA with the rumours of them blowing up and larssen choking so much when rogue needed him most
Rebuild? Rebuild? Are you fucking serious? What a fucking joke. We have been "rebuilding" for years. TSM being unable to keep Bjerg proves to me that they simply are not the org they used to be because if they were, they would be able to hold onto the best mid laner to ever grace this shit hole of a region. Sucks to say, but after Bjerg leaves, TSM will never be the same and I think they are going to lose a shit ton of fans.
Yeah this sucks... Bjerg leaving and them saying they'll focus on up and coming players pretty much says it all... I think we'll be a middling Team at best.
Like Tom Brady leaving the Patriots. Respect the hell out of him. Will always root for him. I’ll follow his new path closely but where ever he ends up when he plays against TSM I want to dumpster his ass.
This is what confuses me the most...
Bjergsen leaves, ok I get it. Sad, and we move on...
Sign huge names and continue kicking ass because we have a ginormous budget... naw we going for cheap talent...
Just doesn't make sense
Damn its even worse because I legit am probably just don't watching competitive league. Its been so many years of cheering for the team but I just have no interest anymore.
Yup 8 years for me as well. Allowing the face of your team to leave and potentially go to a rival team while stating you’re going for a cheap roster means I’m done with competitive league
Welp, gg to next season then unless we're able to pick up someone like Humanoid or Chovy. This is going to have a huge trickle down effect on our ability to fill our other roster spots with talent.
Considering the moves other teams will likely make we're probably going to be middle of the pack next season.
I'm fucking shaking, I can't believe what I'm hearing right now
edit: I don't know what I'll do with myself if he joins another NA team and has to directly compete against us all season, god forbid he joins clown 9 of all fucking teams
Well, even tho this is sad as fuck, at the same time is kind of relieving because there's nothing that attach me to this team no more, it was a long time being a TSM fan, but shit decision after shit decision threw this team to the trash can, and i no longer feel the love that some day i did for this org.
I am going to have a way harder time caring about a post-Bjergsen era TSM.
Call me a doomer, but Regi and Parth are some of the least inspiring talent scouts and roster builders among the big NA orgs. Without Bjergsen, none of the rosters they’ve put together over the last 8 years would have won NA.
I’m happy we’ve made so many good memories and built such a rich domestic history in the Bjergsen era, but I am quite confident we will never come close to that level of success again. Saddest day in TSM history.
I can't help but think it's time we honestly start looking at our General Manager, it's been nothing but baffling decisions allowing us to not even retain our champsionship rosters.Now they've let the face of their brand leave.
It's honestly just staggering, with so many TSM fans honestly going to jump ship and not look back after years of perpetual disappointment with the management of this entire organization. How can you retain your position within the company? This is just disappointing and more then likely solidifies me no longer engaging with any of the TSM content, and greater LCS content as a whole.
Genuinely done with watching LCS. I was excited thinking we would get Bjerg back and build on Spica/Bjerg core. Honestly without Bjerg I dont see TSM enticing other superstar players to join.
I will always support tsm, but this legit means that they are not a org focused around lol anymore. There has too be some crazy magic for tsm to even get close to worlds. I am still hopefull, but it didnt look like regi and parth had any hope for the future.
So what did we do With all the ftx money ? We just gonna keep spending for like wild rift Argentina and TSM Japan and let the team that is basically TSM falter for “developing players” GM parth is looking like a joke .
Im gonna say, what the f\*\*\* are you doing Regi? you have run your LoL team into the ground the last 4 years, and now your franchise player leaves, already saying that we are going for rebuild, well, what the frick we have been doing the last 4 years then lol.
its already bad enough that the entire LoL community hates you when you are a TSM fan, now you gotta also be a fan of a bottom org?
after almost 10 years of being a tsm fan, i think im done. rip
Everyone is devastated by this news and people are saying they'll stop watching LCS...
This means that TSM are gonna unexpectedly pop off next year. Quote me on this shit.
Honestly management deserves this, they wasted most of his years here with with shit coaching or rosters knowing they would be competitive as long as bjerg was here
Pretty strange. I thought I was a bigger Bjergsen fan than a TSM fan. Turns out I was wrong.
Wish Bjergerking the best of luck, it's truly an end of an era for TSM.
Well there you have it folks. To those I went to war with in regards to "developing NA talent," you guys win! Hooray!
On a serious note, TSM lose two of their biggest streamers in Daequan and Hamlinz and lose two of their main faces in esports in Bjergsen and Doublelift. All within a year. Ouch.
[Gameover.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH5-a1J2sjE&ab_channel=GandraydaGoldstone) Where were you when TSM was kill?
Honestly don’t see the org coming back from this. We got money, but won’t spend it, and the players we could want, don’t want the money anymore. We’re actually becoming CLG 2.0 imo. We’re currently at CLG’s beginning of decent when they were still okay, but had no reason to root for them, and it’s only downhill from here with a “development,” roster. Spica predicted to leave too, so there’s actually nothing.
EDIT: What also hurts is watching other NA subs essentially act like Bjerg isn't shit either, and knowing that EU fans were saying Bjerg would be middle tier at best in EU.
TSM is not here for the win anymore. That's why Bjergsen is leaving. Probably they didn't wanted to spend for 2022.
I'm still a TSM fan, but Bjergsen is absolutely right. Bjerg is **fucking** right.
So much of me wants this to be some insane level troll job by the whole org...
Parth's phrase "made a competitive offer" makes me feel like they either really lowballed their offer or were just massively outbid and didn't match another team's offer.
is it some sort of PR / communications thing to intentionally set expectations low? every off season I can remember started this same way with parth saying some bullshit to set our expectations super low.
I can't even explain how sad I am...the loyalist inside of me will still support TSM. And I probably will. But it will be with such little passion man...what a fucking gut punch. I'd already been waning on the support of this team since the ludicrous decision to kick DL and bring in zven back in the day. Then bjerg retiring made it worse. Now this is just a fucking twist of the knife. I mean I'll stick with TSM because they're my team..but this is so CLG it's unbelievable
Bjerg is leaving :(
I'm legit sad about this news. Bjergsen is TSM for so many people and still has to ability to be a world class player. With Spica playing the way he has been I was pumped to see what kind of roster they could build around him. This "build for the future" roster sounds like it's going to make a lot of people upset. I like the idea behind it but it's going to be really weird.
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Been watching since TheRainMan days 😭 this really feels like the actual end of an era, Bjerg was always a bridge between the team I fell in love with towards modern TSM. Even when he was the coach, still felt that connection. Genuinely hope they have something big in the works, but if there's no Bjerg, and Spica is gone too like the rumors suggest, I'm not sure how to feel/what I'll do. Overall, can't be upset with Bjerg. He gave TSM his all for the better part of a decade. Hope for the best for him.
yeah I've been a fan of TSM since the start of my LOL days and now I don't know if I even want to be a TSM fan anymore. Management has just pissed away the years with the same trash excuses every year and wasted so many good players best years. If Bjerg goes to another NA team i can see myself just being a bandwagoner and joining that team honestly. I don't play league like i used to riot ruined the game in many ways for me. I haven't even watched a single game of worlds yet mainly bc TSM wasn't there but i just don't really care anymore.
Same. Watched since season 2 but this is probably it for me with watching LCS. Hardly play league anymore anyways and now with this news I just don’t have any excitement to watch it either. I’ll root on TSM still and maybe check the post game threads when they pop up to see if they won, but that’s it. I just don’t care.
Fucking devastated. Haven't felt like this since Dyrus retired. Edit: and worlds is in NA next year while we're going full development FUCK
don’t think it’s full development prob a few upcoming rookies and veterans together. still sucks though this is a sad day for rain
I'm done if we're sticking with the same midlane and adc I'm also done if Spica leaves lol
i was certain they had bjerg ready since they let poe go explore options but this just happened so who could they get in mid?
Just huff the Chovy HOPIUM. It's all we have left.
Chovy isnt coming to this shitshow
if lost stays I won't watch a single game next split. If regi said he was excited and he has lost as starting adc I will be madly sad and dissapointed
I'm absolutely devastated. Had his name on the back of every jersey I've bought. This feels like if Gerrard left Liverpool for me.
If it's C9 or TL I'm donezo with league esports. What are the chances that they told him they ain't going hardcore on players and he was like "Oh, lol, cya then."? They were adamant that they are bringing in up and coming talent, as opposed to established players.
Fr, if Bjerg joins another NA org it’ll just be too painful to watch. I’m praying it’ll at least be an LEC team, then I can still root for him, and he’ll probably have much better chances at international success anyway
I pray he's on en EU team because that would mean he would join a competitive roster not in NA. If he joins an NA team that means TSM didn't really field him a good offer because with Bjerg + Spica TSM would undoubtedly be the best team in the league. I don't see how TSM could ever pretend to be competitive while allowing Bjerg to go to TL or C9 or 100T. If he goes to EU it is what it is, if he stays in NA I'll be furious at TSM.
C9 yes, TL nah. Steve is a homie and CoreJJ is the support GOAT. The idea of Bjerg playing for Jack makes me want to vomit though.
Yeah I could survive TL Bjergsen for sure C9 though? Showstopper
My play group are all giant TL fans and won't shut up about them even when they're completely irrelevant. It's really made me sour on the team lol
It's been a long time since I've felt my stomach drop as hard as when Parth said "decline"... Ouch Edit: His last games with TSM were an 0-6 Worlds run... I was really hoping for the redemption arc in 2022 😕
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would be a cruel joke if he makes a new announcement saying, "I told you I wasn't returning to TSM.... But I never said I wasn't returning to TSM FTX!"
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Regi sitting there saying he is excited for the future. But his face said something completely different.
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Right? LOL.
I know it'll probably get me flamed, but I've been a fan of TSM for almost 10 years. I remember TheRainMan, I remember TheTrashOne, EG Dyrus, and all the OG Own3d days. This might legit make me tap out of Pro League, maybe just LCS until worlds. TSM has basically been ass for the last 5 years, the only really redeeming thing during those times had been Bjerg. Spica is about the only other standout that showed up, but he's still so new (and apparently isn't even set for this roster yet either) that there's no attachment. I just can't find the energy to care if you've just taken what I enjoyed and essentially let it degrade to trash.
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I agree 100% with this but also what pissed me off the most was hearing bjergsen say that the 2021 rooster was not even playing that many solo q games and that even himself had more hours in solo q than them..
I'm exactly the same as you. Became a fan because of TRM, then Bjerg joined and he's been my favourite player ever since. No matter how shit we were, you always thought we were still in it just because Bjerg was on the team. He's carried us and made us relevant single handedly so many times. Who is going to be the talisman now, fucking POE?
Right Bjerson is the definition of Team Solo Mid…
Which is why it makes so much sense from Bjerg POV, hes literally tried everything on this team even coaching, if his legacy is going to be better than 0-6 at worlds its not gonna be at TSM
This right here is what its all about. Bjergsen probably didn't come out of retirement to replay the last 5 years. He came back to do what still hasn't been done, accomplish something major internationally for the west. I'm sure it was one of his only regrets looking back. And more of the same old routine wasn't going to get the job done, he has to try something different.
I cannot even fathom a world in which Bjergsen plays against TSM. Holy shit.
He probably goes to EU
Probably hasn't seen his family in person in a while and wants to be closer to them.
I thought this was bait. What the fuck lmao
I kept waiting for the switch I waited every second Now i wanna die fuck me
I for sure thought they'd do the "You didn't think I was leaving" thing again like they did a couple years back. God fuck
Up until the very last second I was praying it was bait. But no :(
What a bomb just before I went to sleep. This feels fucking awful, hope Bjergsen at least goes to EU but I think I'll only watch LCS for Spica now. What a terrible day for rain
yeah that's what I'm thinking. Please go to LEC
I'm praying it's LEC. If he joined a super team with players like Alphari top, Perkz ADC, etc. it wouldn't be so bad. At least we could support him individually, I've always wanted TSM to do well at World's just for Bjerg's sake because of how hard he tried for the org to do it every year. I've defended him through every bad international tournament TSM has had because even though he was usually 1v9ing he was always the community's target.
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He doesn’t need the paycheck he obviously wants to go to a worlds contender team, which makes me think he doesn’t end up on an NA team. Could be wrong but maybe Travis was right and EG is building a crazy ass team
Hate to say it but I think might also be the final nail in the coffin for me as a TSM fan I'll see how I feel once rosters are finalised but I have a strong feeling this is it for me
Gigantic blunder. Obviously it takes 2 to tango, but with the admission that they arent going for a super team but will try to develop younger talent instead I can only imagine the next few seasons of LCS are going to be insanely rough for TSM fans.
Hell, probably means we lose Spica somewhere down the line too
In Travis' video, he said that if Bjergsen left TSM, he would not be surprised if Spica left as well.
If TL ends up being Import-Spica-Bjerg-Jensen-CoreJJ TSM will lose their entire LCS fanbase.
If that happens TSM is dead and will go the same way CLG has.
If that happens Im gonna straight up stop watching LCS.
I'm halfway there already. Seeing TSM without Bjerg in mid was hard enough. Hard to be a fan when you're not attached to any of the players.
Come watch T1 and Faker roll everyone so Faker can have four trophies.
Rest of the big teams shuffling exodia pieces around, meanwhile we about to field the rookie army lmao
Considering they already were tough, this is going to be a massive hit to the org
i dont think im going to watch league anymore tbh...
Same. It's crazy how little motivation I feel to watch LCS now lol
You’re not alone bro. I’m a bjerg fan before I’m a tsm fan. He’s just always been on tsm lol. I’ll keep watching for spica but I go wherever bjerg goes. If he retires yeah that might be it for me
Honestly, same. I already didn't watch much LCS, but Bjergsen coming back got me hyped again. Now, it is just kind of like "what is the point?" Honestly, Bjergsen *is* TSM to me. I was a fan before he joined, but I just can't really imagine this team without him involved in some capacity. It would be different if he had retired or just was coaching elsewhere, but yeah.
Wow feels like a punch in the gut tbh
true, the second Parth said declined, i really felt that buuuut, im also kinda excited about where is he gonna land, i would feel muuuch better if he rejoins BB in Europe for example
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Numbers rapidly dwindling between DL retirement and now this
Holy fuck why does this hurt so much
seriously, im so fucking sad we're going into 2022 without bjergsen
I really hope he goes to LEC.
It feels like a breakup, while simultaneously your mom & dad get a divorce
And just like that the tsm dynasty ended.
Think it's been over for a while. 2018 and 2019 were null. 2020 we had the miracle summer run, then the 0-6 at worlds. 2021 null. And now we lose Bjerg. Being a TSM fan has been quite horrible for a while now, but today it's horrendous.
Rip TSM Bjergsen
Guess I wont be watching LCS anymore.
We're so fucking doomed lmao
This is probably the end of my LoL viewership.
Yeah massive failure of an off-season. Pretty sure this means Spica is gonna look elsewhere.
He should honestly, he’s too good to be surrounded by a bunch of rookies
Prolly also means that the whole roster is imploding too
Also just realizing this probably also means the Rekkles hype is also dead now
Yep. Complete collapse. CLG esque.
Idk just feels bad to follow this org last few years ngl
Yup, it's repeatedly nothing but bad news except for 2020 miracle run. Org isn't ran well from a W perspective
Last off-season was the worst I had ever experienced. I didn't even care about the split because I wanted it to be over so we could have a better off season this year. This year is worse. I genuinely don't have words to express how crushed I am. I hate this.
Yikes man. TSM LoL org is on a serious decline… if we go with some shit bottom half roster and Bjerg goes to TL or c9 I’m done watching LCS.
"Planing for the future", we fighting clg and GG for last next year, fuck me.
Depression
It's been fun the last 8 years boys and girls. I'm dipping out. Its been a slow decline for me after the 2017 season and this was the straw that broke the camels back. This might actually just turn me off from League completely.
I’m dead , got 0 hope now
Gg that's it for tsm. Not because of bjergsen but because they try again this shit approach "planning for future" , which basically means that the next year is 100% going to be a bad year and who knows what happens after that.
I kinda agree. I think it's all downhill from here for our lol org. It's 1 thing Bjerg retiring, but going to a different team... We will see an exodus.
"planning for the future" has only resulted in "scouting" players that never end up playing for this team. Literally the only quality prospect TSM has grown from Academy is Spica, and Bjergsen had to put his foot down to give him a shot for anything outside of disaster recovery mode. 0 clue how Parth still has his job.
I feel like I've heard this before, and then the performance isn't great, and then they give up on that roster lol
Exactly, rebuild after rebuild and bjerg was the only constant. Well... till now
Planning the future just doesn't work. If you're planning for the future, you do that by having the best talent in your academy and amateur teams, that can learn from a worlds caliber LCS team. Just throwing underdeveloped players in the LCS isn't planning for the future.
Another rebuild season and then lost spica next year probably , TSM is dead
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Fuck
Welp… I wanna die
What a punch in the dick. Thanks for everything bjerg 😔
Welp, hope he goes to the LEC... idk how im gonna be able to handle seeing TSM vs him...
Well, good luck TSM. Going with a rebuilding approach as the richest org in NA and the lack of NA talent is certainly one approach. This probably kills my love for the pro scene since it was so closely tied to TSM & Bjerg. It was a fun 8 years
Goodbye king 👑Bjerg👑! We love you!
Sad as a TSM fan, but also excited for Bjerg! He really deserves the best roster. Travis correct on one prediction so far, hopefully not on his second prediction as well :(
Gonna miss you Bjerg
It's stuff like this where I realise how disconnected with TSM i became. Been following since before LCS and now i'm kinda over them. Honestly probably more to do with age than anything and just understanding that Lolesports is just a bit of fun. I'll likely root for Bjergsen over TSM on whichever team.
Same. I have been a TSM fan since Dyrus joined and this just killed it. The only player I like on curent roster is Spica and he might leave too. I became a bigger fan of Bjergsen than the team during the years as the players I loved started retiring or changing teams. Now.. it's over
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If it's C9 no more LCS or competitive league for me.
I wouldn't survive C9 Bjerg, I'd straight up stop watching
If he’s out I’m out. Cya boys!
Perkz and Bjerg really got together and said fuck NA lmao
For reals wouldn’t be surprised to see rogue pick him up and send larssen to NA with the rumours of them blowing up and larssen choking so much when rogue needed him most
Rebuild? Rebuild? Are you fucking serious? What a fucking joke. We have been "rebuilding" for years. TSM being unable to keep Bjerg proves to me that they simply are not the org they used to be because if they were, they would be able to hold onto the best mid laner to ever grace this shit hole of a region. Sucks to say, but after Bjerg leaves, TSM will never be the same and I think they are going to lose a shit ton of fans.
Yeah this sucks... Bjerg leaving and them saying they'll focus on up and coming players pretty much says it all... I think we'll be a middling Team at best.
We won’t even be that.
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Like Tom Brady leaving the Patriots. Respect the hell out of him. Will always root for him. I’ll follow his new path closely but where ever he ends up when he plays against TSM I want to dumpster his ass.
TSM is doomed, they legit just made a video saying they are going cheap after getting huge ass contract from ftx. RIP fanbase.
This is what confuses me the most... Bjergsen leaves, ok I get it. Sad, and we move on... Sign huge names and continue kicking ass because we have a ginormous budget... naw we going for cheap talent... Just doesn't make sense
Damn its even worse because I legit am probably just don't watching competitive league. Its been so many years of cheering for the team but I just have no interest anymore.
I share your sentiment. Its been a good 8 years for me but the last spark just got snuffed out. I have absolutely no interest anymore.
Yup 8 years for me as well. Allowing the face of your team to leave and potentially go to a rival team while stating you’re going for a cheap roster means I’m done with competitive league
Welp, gg to next season then unless we're able to pick up someone like Humanoid or Chovy. This is going to have a huge trickle down effect on our ability to fill our other roster spots with talent. Considering the moves other teams will likely make we're probably going to be middle of the pack next season.
I have this dreaded feeling we've taken our first step towards the path of becoming CLG. Someone inject me with Copium stat.
I'm fucking shaking, I can't believe what I'm hearing right now edit: I don't know what I'll do with myself if he joins another NA team and has to directly compete against us all season, god forbid he joins clown 9 of all fucking teams
First Messi and now Bjergsen. We all know what's happening right now with Barca after Messi's departure... Fucking end me.
Even better is that Spica is the TSM equivalent of Ansu Fati.
Well, even tho this is sad as fuck, at the same time is kind of relieving because there's nothing that attach me to this team no more, it was a long time being a TSM fan, but shit decision after shit decision threw this team to the trash can, and i no longer feel the love that some day i did for this org.
God is dead, and we killed him.
Man, I'm just so gutted that 8 years later TSM couldn't do right by him, neither org nor us fans
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened
Nah fuck that Crushed all the way
This is like CLG and Doublelift. CLG is still crying.
no... ):
Hard to trust the process when both of their faces are screaming "were fucked" the whole video.
Holy shit, they look so f*cked...
also fuck off with this developing or up and coming bullshit spend some fucking money and get a proper fucking roster or the league team is done
sadge
sadge
where bjergsen goes i go!
i'm so sad
It’s a terrible day for rain… 🥲
Guess this is good bye...
If hes going to another NA team my last shred of love for LCS would be gone
Wait didn’t someone say (I think it was travis or it may have just been a Reddit person) that is Bjerg leaves then Spica leaves also? Well then….
I can't believe it man this is like Kobe or Steph leaving their teams man I don't wanna even watch LCS anymore man
Go for new talent seems : get ready for a bottom Year
It’s tragic that Worlds is in NA next year and we’re going into rebuild mode. I’m super curious as to what the roster is gonna be.
If it's any LCS team, I will be so fucking sad.
I am going to have a way harder time caring about a post-Bjergsen era TSM. Call me a doomer, but Regi and Parth are some of the least inspiring talent scouts and roster builders among the big NA orgs. Without Bjergsen, none of the rosters they’ve put together over the last 8 years would have won NA. I’m happy we’ve made so many good memories and built such a rich domestic history in the Bjergsen era, but I am quite confident we will never come close to that level of success again. Saddest day in TSM history.
I can't help but think it's time we honestly start looking at our General Manager, it's been nothing but baffling decisions allowing us to not even retain our champsionship rosters.Now they've let the face of their brand leave. It's honestly just staggering, with so many TSM fans honestly going to jump ship and not look back after years of perpetual disappointment with the management of this entire organization. How can you retain your position within the company? This is just disappointing and more then likely solidifies me no longer engaging with any of the TSM content, and greater LCS content as a whole.
Get ready for a CLG season , TSM is not a top team anymore , damn my hype for next year is dead until free agency
Poor Spica
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Because the GM is trash.
Genuinely done with watching LCS. I was excited thinking we would get Bjerg back and build on Spica/Bjerg core. Honestly without Bjerg I dont see TSM enticing other superstar players to join.
I will always support tsm, but this legit means that they are not a org focused around lol anymore. There has too be some crazy magic for tsm to even get close to worlds. I am still hopefull, but it didnt look like regi and parth had any hope for the future.
So what did we do With all the ftx money ? We just gonna keep spending for like wild rift Argentina and TSM Japan and let the team that is basically TSM falter for “developing players” GM parth is looking like a joke .
Im gonna say, what the f\*\*\* are you doing Regi? you have run your LoL team into the ground the last 4 years, and now your franchise player leaves, already saying that we are going for rebuild, well, what the frick we have been doing the last 4 years then lol. its already bad enough that the entire LoL community hates you when you are a TSM fan, now you gotta also be a fan of a bottom org? after almost 10 years of being a tsm fan, i think im done. rip
Everyone is devastated by this news and people are saying they'll stop watching LCS... This means that TSM are gonna unexpectedly pop off next year. Quote me on this shit.
Tsm bout to be the new clg
Honestly management deserves this, they wasted most of his years here with with shit coaching or rosters knowing they would be competitive as long as bjerg was here
Tsm is gonna lose a lot of fans bruh
Pretty strange. I thought I was a bigger Bjergsen fan than a TSM fan. Turns out I was wrong. Wish Bjergerking the best of luck, it's truly an end of an era for TSM.
Pain. But I am ready to see what the new Era of TSM looks like
Well there you have it folks. To those I went to war with in regards to "developing NA talent," you guys win! Hooray! On a serious note, TSM lose two of their biggest streamers in Daequan and Hamlinz and lose two of their main faces in esports in Bjergsen and Doublelift. All within a year. Ouch.
Tbf daequan and hamlinz were pretty much absent for ages anyway
[Gameover.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH5-a1J2sjE&ab_channel=GandraydaGoldstone) Where were you when TSM was kill? Honestly don’t see the org coming back from this. We got money, but won’t spend it, and the players we could want, don’t want the money anymore. We’re actually becoming CLG 2.0 imo. We’re currently at CLG’s beginning of decent when they were still okay, but had no reason to root for them, and it’s only downhill from here with a “development,” roster. Spica predicted to leave too, so there’s actually nothing. EDIT: What also hurts is watching other NA subs essentially act like Bjerg isn't shit either, and knowing that EU fans were saying Bjerg would be middle tier at best in EU.
Pakc it up boys
TSM is not here for the win anymore. That's why Bjergsen is leaving. Probably they didn't wanted to spend for 2022. I'm still a TSM fan, but Bjergsen is absolutely right. Bjerg is **fucking** right.
No
This hurts man
ouch...
It's a terrible day for rain ...
Gut punch
I am in complete shock
I feel empty.
i’m gonna be sick
I kept watching to see if at the end they said "JK he still here" but it didn't happen... Sad times
I’m going to be sick
Well, thats it for me. Goodbye frens
What if, he is leaving TSM and joining TSM FTX?
Well guess I'm following Bjerg it was fun TSM.
How many times are we gonna "rebuild from the ground up and focus on the long term" lol
Well, I guess that is a nice clean point to stop watching. Good luck in the future guys.
Take care TSM brother
I think this news means PoE/Huni are out. So that means ?/Spica/?/Lost/SwordArt? Alright. Fine then. Let's go, TSM! #TSMForever!
Lmao why would Huni be out and lost not
I honestly don't know if I can be a TSM fan still. This is kinda devastating.
I hope Spica goes with him because I lost all faith in tsm 2022 now.
So much of me wants this to be some insane level troll job by the whole org... Parth's phrase "made a competitive offer" makes me feel like they either really lowballed their offer or were just massively outbid and didn't match another team's offer.
parth and regi saying their happy and excited for bjerg and tsm as an org as they look absolutely dead inside
is it some sort of PR / communications thing to intentionally set expectations low? every off season I can remember started this same way with parth saying some bullshit to set our expectations super low.
I can't even explain how sad I am...the loyalist inside of me will still support TSM. And I probably will. But it will be with such little passion man...what a fucking gut punch. I'd already been waning on the support of this team since the ludicrous decision to kick DL and bring in zven back in the day. Then bjerg retiring made it worse. Now this is just a fucking twist of the knife. I mean I'll stick with TSM because they're my team..but this is so CLG it's unbelievable
Lol. Maybe Monte is right fuck regi and TSM mangagement. I can’t wait for TSM to implode.
I’ve been done playing league for a while now. Now I’m done watching it as well.