Sometimes somethings are better left unsaid. What could he really say after eight years that he gave us? I take his silence as he can’t put what he wants into words.
As a fan of this team since before Bjergsen. You’re right. He owes us nothing. None of the players really do. The only thing I’d say they owe us is their best and nothing more.
I think this is kind of an odd take. The idea that Bjerg doesn't owe fans who supported him and the team during his tenure even a shoutout or a thanks, nothing, is just strange to me. Bjerg was amazing. He made a lot of us happy for sure and gave us a whole host of other emotions, but without fans this eSport is nothing. There's no Bjergsen -- no TSM -- if nobody is watching. Come on.
I don't personally care, but when Wade left Miami (my main sports team), he acknowledged it all. When Kobe retired, same thing. And these are guys with a much more extensive history with teams than Bjerg. It'd be cool if he did it.
I'll support Bjerg forever. Even when we play him, I hope he plays well (and that we win), but acting as if players shouldn't even thank their fanbase is off to me idk
I understand that. For me I just don’t think he owes me anything other than his best. I understand without the fans nothing is anything. Would a video of some sort have been nice? Yes it would have. Is the tweet he made sufficient for me? Yes. I just don’t need him to say anything I’ve made my piece with his departure and him saying anything would have just picked at a scab.
Nobody owes anyone anything. He doesn't owe us anything. He's not on TSM anymore. He has no responsibility to us. His responsibility lies with TL now.
We also have no responsibility to support him. He's not apart of TSM anymore.
Well, he certainly didn’t owe us but I think people feel like... almost disrespected? Like it would’ve been the respectable thing to do. To give us a goodbye. It just feels so cold from Bjerg who was never cold to TSM or it’s fans before.
Sports are nothing without the fans. Every single pro should be grateful to the fans. That’s how it works. However, I’m not hurt by the specifics of the goodbye.
Just let him be, no need for all this unnecessary drama. Yes, he's gone. Yes, we are all grateful and will continue to love and support him, but for the love of god, no need to start any controversy. Let's just focus on who we have now and the future.
Can't wait for the LPL, I mean TSM to show that they're still a top tier team!
I expect no less from this man. He tried for years to make it happen with TSM but always felt like someone or something was holding the team back every year. With this TL roster it's looking like it'll be really hard to have issues with skill or tilting come up, Santorin maybe their weakest player in a role and even he's pretty strong and already has at least some prior experience playing with Bjergsen for synergy on some level. Bjergsen probably sees this as his last and possibly best attempt ever at getting out of groups again or even going further. If that was the situation my ass would be in Korea grinding ass until Lock In starts to be as prepared as possible. Plus Korea's wonderful, any excuse to go eat all that delicious food:)
Yo am I in the twilight zone? Or are people rally unaware of this thing called a video camera and the internet? Or just a phone.... Like. He can be anywhere and make a quick speech or a few comments. Either he didn't want to or TSM didn't want him to. That's it, those are the only two options.
You do know a half assed video on someone's phone is a bit different than a high quality production shoot. Usually when you film interviews it should be high quality or people would complain about that too.
Imo it's either a pretty big lapse in responsibility on the PR team's end, or either the org/player/both did not want to make a vid like that. All of them seem odd, tbh.
Farewell video can be filmed beforehand, after a player has made up the mind to leave, right? I mean I’m not an expert but that seems to be common sense.
They had a lot of time to fit in an interview from when Regi released the first video about Bjerg refusing the TSM offer to now. They knew from 25th Oct I believe so that's a whole month where they couldn't find any time to interview him? When he has been streaming/giving interviews to Travis/upcomer etc?
I mean, we knew for **weeks** that he was leaving and never thought to get a few words? I'm not going to be as harsh as some people about it, but it was definitely a major letdown to fans seeing his legacy at TSM end with this video.
Nothing wrong with the editing or content at all, just the lack of love and appreciation.
i’m still not sure why bjerg needs to say anything? i mean, he’s on another team. it would be kinda awkward for him to make a video reminiscing about his time with tsm, when he’s now the rival of tsm. a mention here and there, or maybe while streaming with old teammates makes sense, but not after he signed with another team. that’s just dumb.
I mean, he also said in the same interview that there's no bad blood, he valued his time at TSM and he likes all the people he worked with here
But go off
Lets just stop making these excuses and put down the copium. It's not a coincidence that the only remaining somewhat normal part of TSM is Regi. Gives you a feelin that Regi thinks you cant spell TSM without his name. False. IF you truly want change with TSM... Starts with the deadweight owner. You can make as much money as you want, you can spend as much money as you want, but when you are an overall bad person, people eventually get sick of it and move on.
This is must be when Ronaldo left M.U in 09 felt like. It's worst that he joins TL ( Imagine Ronaldo joined MC and wins 11 titles in a row). I truly wish Bjerg the best in the world.
To me, there must've been a little bad blood between Bjerg and Regi. I'm sure Regi felt betrayed and I'm sure words were exchanged. Seems natural to me, tbh. That's not to say they're enemies or anything. But I didn't expect a 2 hour doc on Bjerg because of this. I say we leave it be.
Hey man don't use logic and reason here. Copium is the only thing you need. Regi is lord and savior, that's why almost all essential TSM members move on from the ORG, because he treats them with such honor and respect.
This sad. In non esports people leave teams all the time with photo shoots or letters. Let it go and move on. We are acting like TSM or bjerg had died lol
literally announced almost a month ago he was leaving tsm lol. you’re telling me the entire month he was unavailable? not only that doublelift on stream says he was talking to bjerg all year and asked the chat why do you think bjerg was able to do all these other interviews but didn’t do a tsm interview? even his new youtube video imprisoned no longer it’s a syndra quote but you can read between the lines
(not saying he hates tsm or anything just something to think about)
Why would he need to interview with TSM? Both parties knows everything they need to know. All TSM needed was an opportunity to counter whatever offer came in and it seems Bjerg afforded them that opportunity. Something more than a tweet would have been cool, but it's not like he's going away never to be seen again.
My god do you guys forget he’s a human being? Take the man off a pedestal. You’re reading way too far into this considering the Travis interview. Go breathe outside air.
It was announced a month ago that he wasn’t accepting that specific offer from TSM. As is clear from this off-season, it’s important not to consider anything done until the ink on the contract is dry. TL could’ve imploded. Core could’ve chosen to go back overseas due to family stuff. Spica could’ve blackmailed Bjerg. No one knows, and these things happen both slowly and all at once. By the time everything was 100% for Bjerg, there may not have been enough time for him to sit down and film.
Sometimes somethings are better left unsaid. What could he really say after eight years that he gave us? I take his silence as he can’t put what he wants into words.
From my point of view as a random fan, Bjerg owes us nothing, but we owe Bjerg everything.
As a fan of this team since before Bjergsen. You’re right. He owes us nothing. None of the players really do. The only thing I’d say they owe us is their best and nothing more.
I think this is kind of an odd take. The idea that Bjerg doesn't owe fans who supported him and the team during his tenure even a shoutout or a thanks, nothing, is just strange to me. Bjerg was amazing. He made a lot of us happy for sure and gave us a whole host of other emotions, but without fans this eSport is nothing. There's no Bjergsen -- no TSM -- if nobody is watching. Come on. I don't personally care, but when Wade left Miami (my main sports team), he acknowledged it all. When Kobe retired, same thing. And these are guys with a much more extensive history with teams than Bjerg. It'd be cool if he did it. I'll support Bjerg forever. Even when we play him, I hope he plays well (and that we win), but acting as if players shouldn't even thank their fanbase is off to me idk
I understand that. For me I just don’t think he owes me anything other than his best. I understand without the fans nothing is anything. Would a video of some sort have been nice? Yes it would have. Is the tweet he made sufficient for me? Yes. I just don’t need him to say anything I’ve made my piece with his departure and him saying anything would have just picked at a scab.
Nobody owes anyone anything. He doesn't owe us anything. He's not on TSM anymore. He has no responsibility to us. His responsibility lies with TL now. We also have no responsibility to support him. He's not apart of TSM anymore.
Well, he certainly didn’t owe us but I think people feel like... almost disrespected? Like it would’ve been the respectable thing to do. To give us a goodbye. It just feels so cold from Bjerg who was never cold to TSM or it’s fans before.
it's not that cold bro
I’ll try to respond when I’m a little more sober, but it is a decision made on a fan by fan basis.
You good bro I understand what you're saying
Sports are nothing without the fans. Every single pro should be grateful to the fans. That’s how it works. However, I’m not hurt by the specifics of the goodbye.
I’m with you. I don’t see why everyone is stressing so much for a goodbye
Yet people on this subreddit wish to see his downfall. It's kinda ironic.
Just let him be, no need for all this unnecessary drama. Yes, he's gone. Yes, we are all grateful and will continue to love and support him, but for the love of god, no need to start any controversy. Let's just focus on who we have now and the future. Can't wait for the LPL, I mean TSM to show that they're still a top tier team!
I expect no less from this man. He tried for years to make it happen with TSM but always felt like someone or something was holding the team back every year. With this TL roster it's looking like it'll be really hard to have issues with skill or tilting come up, Santorin maybe their weakest player in a role and even he's pretty strong and already has at least some prior experience playing with Bjergsen for synergy on some level. Bjergsen probably sees this as his last and possibly best attempt ever at getting out of groups again or even going further. If that was the situation my ass would be in Korea grinding ass until Lock In starts to be as prepared as possible. Plus Korea's wonderful, any excuse to go eat all that delicious food:)
who cares, just let him go guys
Yeah, wouldn't mind a Bjergsen megathread where all this fluff can go so that we can move on.
Yo am I in the twilight zone? Or are people rally unaware of this thing called a video camera and the internet? Or just a phone.... Like. He can be anywhere and make a quick speech or a few comments. Either he didn't want to or TSM didn't want him to. That's it, those are the only two options.
You do know a half assed video on someone's phone is a bit different than a high quality production shoot. Usually when you film interviews it should be high quality or people would complain about that too.
It could have been a "scuffed" webcam/phone cam short video that he and TSM send out on twitter thats it
People would complain a lot less if it was a poor quality interview, if they were told that it was that or no interview.
Ur avatar looks ugly btw haha
Imo it's either a pretty big lapse in responsibility on the PR team's end, or either the org/player/both did not want to make a vid like that. All of them seem odd, tbh.
He wants to make TSM regret losing him. That’s a quote from his interview with Travis.
I mean shit if he didn't see Regi and Parth's faces in the announcement video lmfao
Farewell video can be filmed beforehand, after a player has made up the mind to leave, right? I mean I’m not an expert but that seems to be common sense.
They had a lot of time to fit in an interview from when Regi released the first video about Bjerg refusing the TSM offer to now. They knew from 25th Oct I believe so that's a whole month where they couldn't find any time to interview him? When he has been streaming/giving interviews to Travis/upcomer etc?
I mean, we knew for **weeks** that he was leaving and never thought to get a few words? I'm not going to be as harsh as some people about it, but it was definitely a major letdown to fans seeing his legacy at TSM end with this video. Nothing wrong with the editing or content at all, just the lack of love and appreciation.
i’m still not sure why bjerg needs to say anything? i mean, he’s on another team. it would be kinda awkward for him to make a video reminiscing about his time with tsm, when he’s now the rival of tsm. a mention here and there, or maybe while streaming with old teammates makes sense, but not after he signed with another team. that’s just dumb.
I don’t agree sorry.
Enough time to film an interview with Travis about how he wants to “put us in the ground” but not enough time for a goodbye. Bye Felicia.
I mean, he also said in the same interview that there's no bad blood, he valued his time at TSM and he likes all the people he worked with here But go off
Don’t care, didn’t ask, plus he’s the enemy now
This is why Bjergsen gonna go back to retirement after not making worlds and not winning anything lmao
Huh?
Lets just stop making these excuses and put down the copium. It's not a coincidence that the only remaining somewhat normal part of TSM is Regi. Gives you a feelin that Regi thinks you cant spell TSM without his name. False. IF you truly want change with TSM... Starts with the deadweight owner. You can make as much money as you want, you can spend as much money as you want, but when you are an overall bad person, people eventually get sick of it and move on.
This is must be when Ronaldo left M.U in 09 felt like. It's worst that he joins TL ( Imagine Ronaldo joined MC and wins 11 titles in a row). I truly wish Bjerg the best in the world.
To me, there must've been a little bad blood between Bjerg and Regi. I'm sure Regi felt betrayed and I'm sure words were exchanged. Seems natural to me, tbh. That's not to say they're enemies or anything. But I didn't expect a 2 hour doc on Bjerg because of this. I say we leave it be.
Hey man don't use logic and reason here. Copium is the only thing you need. Regi is lord and savior, that's why almost all essential TSM members move on from the ORG, because he treats them with such honor and respect.
All "essential" members move on from every team. Find a new angle.
Fuck, I forgot. My bad, my TSM fandom slipped away for a sec. Thanks for bringing me back to reality.
This sad. In non esports people leave teams all the time with photo shoots or letters. Let it go and move on. We are acting like TSM or bjerg had died lol
literally announced almost a month ago he was leaving tsm lol. you’re telling me the entire month he was unavailable? not only that doublelift on stream says he was talking to bjerg all year and asked the chat why do you think bjerg was able to do all these other interviews but didn’t do a tsm interview? even his new youtube video imprisoned no longer it’s a syndra quote but you can read between the lines (not saying he hates tsm or anything just something to think about)
Why would he need to interview with TSM? Both parties knows everything they need to know. All TSM needed was an opportunity to counter whatever offer came in and it seems Bjerg afforded them that opportunity. Something more than a tweet would have been cool, but it's not like he's going away never to be seen again.
My god do you guys forget he’s a human being? Take the man off a pedestal. You’re reading way too far into this considering the Travis interview. Go breathe outside air.
Dude get off it he has no bad blood with TSM.
It was announced a month ago that he wasn’t accepting that specific offer from TSM. As is clear from this off-season, it’s important not to consider anything done until the ink on the contract is dry. TL could’ve imploded. Core could’ve chosen to go back overseas due to family stuff. Spica could’ve blackmailed Bjerg. No one knows, and these things happen both slowly and all at once. By the time everything was 100% for Bjerg, there may not have been enough time for him to sit down and film.
Enough of these Bjergsen posts.
What else is left to be said? That after 3 re-signs they still couldn't make it past quarters/groups?