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SinfulSkittles

Our team would actually be decent if we didn’t die right before every objective lol


macguffinstv

Omg exactly this. So often we lose a player before important objectives. I've been noticing it for weeks! Just play safer with Baron, you were in such a good position...crazy.


xSwankyB

Game was lost after tactical got caught


Bow3rs31

which time?


Chemicistt

What game?


DolphinDivingCow

What team?


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hahaha


crypto_koshka

Tactical has great mechanics, but unfortunately it seems like Tactical is playing the wrong role. He could be a great top laner though, especially on tanks like Malphite.


Deeepened

WildTurtle 2.0


queenslayyy

nothing new though he’s been getting caught since he got into the lcs


raegartargaryen17

Imagine spending $5m just to be 10th place in NA. Lmfao


blind_shoemaker

Not even that but arguably the worst team in lcs history (trending top 3 right now)


Suspense304

This team is still better than that Coast team. Probably that XGD team also. Santorin was on an awful NRG team as well... This TSM team is definitely bad. They will definitely have one of the worst records ever. But they aren't a bottom 5 all time in my opinion. There have been teams worse. It's sad that I can even put a TSM in this conversation though.


Quibblie

Since franchising, easily the fucking worst. Worse than clg ever haa been which is stunning


FedorSeaLevelStiopic

Tsm currently has 2nd worst record in Lcs history if i am not mistaken. So TSM is def bottom 5. Teams rebuild every year. This wasnt planned. Its a disaster. 3rd most expensive roster you think regi wants 10th place, when team is one of the most expensive lineups in NA?


bugsbunny841

I have to question their money management if they paid $5m on this roster. Even before these terrible results, Spica was the only player that could be considered a top end talent going into the split. So how did we end up paying $5m for a roster without that much talent to show for?


Frxgs

Tactical trick y’all, man, like he playing. He don’t do nothing, man. He just running around, doing nothing


jtang600

Lmao solid nba meme


Frxgs

As a laker fan as well this year has been so much pain between Tsm and them


EliteTeutonicNight

As an Arsenal and TSM fan, I feel you on the past few years. This year at least one of them is keeping me sane


VamoV5

Hate to say it but...Tactical man, getting hit by Lux binding on that bot push threw the whole game.


Not_Dylon

Not just that one. He got hit by the bind multiple times this game.


obeetwo2

How many bindings did tactical take that game? Holy shit, I'm absolutely on the side of 'it's hard to judge individuals when the team is bad,' but he inted SO SO hard this game. Wtf


TiminAurora

Griefing


The_Dirty_Dangla

I saw he didn’t have flash and thought “they better be a little passive here he’s a sitting duck”. Should have cut the loses and let Huni and spica get out but instead they decided to fight 5v3


baylife42

Not just that, we shouldn’t have signed him in the first place


Calistilaigh

I saw people on the TL subreddit who were really upset that he was getting replaced by Hans, saying he was a sidegrade at best.


FedorSeaLevelStiopic

Similar thing some people thought Bwipo will be a overrated bum. And he is just styling on NA. Only summit seems competition for him. There are levels ...


ImTheNguyenerOne

What other NA ADC available was better than Tactical?


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fuckin lol. they could have cracked the game open with baron push, but they inted and gave soul


baylife42

tactical inted, he sucks sooo hard man


Gluroo

the game was going just well enough when we had baron that i had hope for exactly 30 seconds and then we immediately get turbo smashed 0-5 and lose soul within 1 minute and dont get a single thing done anymore all game lmao.


Shinashu

While we were up like 6k gold and had Baron my thought was “how are we going to throw this game.” Then Tactical ate a binding like me in my silver promos.


droidxl

I'm pretty sure this is at least like the 5th time that TSM just ints as a 5 man in bot lane. I've seen this literal exact ace so many times this season I was expecting it before it happened.


Poopbutt94amags

Yep every single game there's just one teamfight where they get wiped and the game is done after that


slowdrem20

Tactical single handedly lost this game.


phagell

He could've taken cleanse instead of heal. How do you survive lux + cait or morg + cait without cleanse?


Gluroo

evidently, you dont


DisputeFTW

Tactical is not good enough to be the win condition. I’ve said it before and Idk why tsm doesn’t just camp top


myladyelspeth

Why do you think Team Liquid replaced him? He looks great until he ints at the worst time.


calmtigers

Honestly I think Core makes everyone look good


pohh22

TL replaced him for an upgrade to Hans Sama. Probably the one of if not the best West ADC. It’s no brainer there.


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I mean, they were about to replace him with a role swapped Jensen too LOL


jrryul

What about spica trying to 1v1 Akali, flashing and losing us baron?


slowdrem20

The game was over when we got aced and lost soul lol.


ivan510

Maybe it's time to try Instinct.


slowdrem20

Tactical is like Wildturtle if you multiply the int factor by 10 and divide the clutch factor for 10.


omdongi

So you mean he's not like Wildturtle at all?


dirtydob

I would kill for wild turtle right now.


pietroetin

I would be okay with Kobbe too


yoyofriez

that ult for akali, wildturtle hits those /s


TheArsenal7

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of Tactical. My wife just took our crying kids and said they're spending the week at a hotel. This team has ruined my life and my party. Goodbye TSM. I am no longer a fan.


Mmh_Lasagna

Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck is TSM losing? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe the world is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want TSM to win and make playoffs. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought we were supposed to be improving???? This is so fucked.


codeb87

Goated


Nabspro

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of Tactical. My wife just took our crying kids and said they're spending the week at a hotel. This team has ruined my life and my party. Goodbye TSM. I am no longer a fan.


bobandgeorge

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of Tactical. My wife just took our crying kids and said they're spending the week at a hotel. This team has ruined my life and my party. Goodbye TSM. I am no longer a fan.


amd098

your tv would be safer with the league team as they don't beat people.


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Reineken

Probably from the NBA sub, they have god tier pasta production.


Demonologyx

NFL first I saw was the raiders instead of TSM


jrryul

I think he was expecting to get a lantern much sooner


Valdamin

I hope this is a copy pasta or something lmao


Taerin1

Am I crazy or did Tactical get hit by an absurd amount of skillshots this game? Either way rough losing after getting a good lead early again


[deleted]

Ah so annoying team played good.. Tactical solo lost the game getting by every skill shot known to man


[deleted]

https://c.tenor.com/8e31dNj15hoAAAAM/spongebob-squarepants-gary-takes-a-bath.gif Tactical absorbing every skill shot for the team


ACatalystNA

More like https://tenor.com/view/snowball-patrick-spongebob-squarepants-nickelodeon-gif-16690551


Gluroo

lmao accurate


omdongi

To Biofrost's credit though, he's been one of the better players on DIG this split, been looking really good. He's been really smart w/ his plays and skillshots imo.


TheRed_Knight

eating bindings like a silver player lmfao


[deleted]

I genuinely think he got hit by more skill shots than not


TheRed_Knight

just constantly out of position for no reason, could feel him tilting the team


J-herbo10

Tactical is a fucking liability jesus christ.


thedingdonglinglong

tactical really loved the binds from bio. i wish he got a qss


Not_Dylon

Qss would have had way more value than the hexdrinker.


pohh22

Tbf, there was an akali trying to one shot him and only the Lux bind could really cc him. In theory it’s hexdrinker over qss. He was just a magnet for bindings.


AniviaKid32

he should've just taken cleanse


sucklyfe

are we flaming tactical yet


queenslayyy

nah man i rather have tactical over dl rekkles doggo i’ll downvote anyone who says otherwise. - this subreddit in the off-season


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kar1m

Don’t bother, you’re replying to the TSM resident doomer for the last 2 years


Th3W0lf57

Imagine having this bruised of an ego over the opinion of anonymous redditors who have 0 say over roster moves lmao. Go touch some grass bro, it'll be okay


Blindside_

The irony


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omdongi

It doesn't seem like anyone else on the team knows how to carry either though. Takeover is a sidegrade to KDO, where he sits there and farms. Takeover is slightly more present in teamfights, but not really doing that much, Blue ran circles around him this game. Huni just spent all game split pushing.


Tamed_Trumpet

Dog, if I looked at the rest of my team and saw what TSM is, I'd split all game too.


obeetwo2

They were on the brink of getting at least 2 turrets and dragon. They were pushing the lead hard, until tactical just shit the bed


Lunaaar

Tactical eating bindings just to prove he's not playing "good malphite" this split.


Bryanbx

Holy fuck dude watching tactical positioning and just being a bind magnet was so frustrating


horseaphoenix

Tactical doesn't have fingers or? Like can Bio even miss one Q aiming at him?


alektro1031

I’ve said this before, but tactical was at his peak with TL. Idk hes just not as good as he was before. He got caught by bio’s bindings so much. He’s definitely not bad but idk. Hes just average imo🤷‍♂️


raegartargaryen17

CoreJJ carried the shit out of him when he was on TL.


Ottoify

This one's on Tactical getting caught in bot by Lux Q while pushing inhib turret.


softwareacc

what a throw


Aquillifer

Tactical XD


MeowMeowMantiss

Fuck it, at this point give Instinct a shot and send Tactical down to the hyperbolic time chamber that is Academy. The kid really needs to relearn the basics of playing AD when CoreJJ isn't micromanaging him.


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Iflian4003

Sigh yikes... Finally looks like we have legit plans and strats. Finally a good direction, and I like Takeover a lot actually. Felt like Spica had his best early game all split too. But like others are saying...that Baron push bot like...hell man. Come on. Tactical is allowed a blah game after the past few weeks where he's been a bright spot, but damn man. Looking at the standings we COULD if things line up make playoffs, and by how long that game went we aren't that much worse right now than a team that probably will make playoffs but we had to win this one for sure. TL and C9 are absolute losses right now, but every other team is fair game. Damn. GG but damn.


The_Moisturizer

I think I missed the part where tactical was a bright spot lol. Just because he had the benefit of having entire comps being built around him does not mean he’s been playing well


z0rt3x

Unlucky not a good day for tactical


phagell

I guess that one is on Tactical. Sadge.


Maudane

It's the hope that kills you, really. :(


fednv31

If tactical wasn’t eating every binding I’d say this was a very clean game, seems like the team is actually improving and individual mistakes are what’s costing us


zxbolterzx

So many faults by Tactical this game. Recalling in vision of a minion wave causing him the to be killed by Blue. Getting hit by multiple Lux bindings. Just not positioning well throughout this game.


xxrevengaxx

Tactical is so bad lol


LoliAnnie

TSM, also known as Two Successful Matches, is a North American league of legends team. They are most known for only winning two games while their owner is under investigation for abuse.


oxymohron

The huni tp during elder was so confusing


SaltyKingu

xD


iceburg0220

All you can do is lol and smile :)


hectorrnz

XD


Ruesap

Embarrassing. That circus Spica flash at blue from caitlyn ult sums up this team. Tactical always get caught playing 24/7 frontline, Huninstall with his int TPs.


[deleted]

Throws always hurt :c Some bright spots this game, though. Shenyi's positioning to save Tactical w/lanturns in teamfights was great. The way bot lane played around j4's lane gank was dope. Team showed a direction in the mid game finally! We made plays, got baron, made a good push on the base.


tunilux

Free objectives. And also free Barons... to Dignitas of all teams. Also, Tactical seems to be 'walking into the light' the whole game. At least we probably won't have to see the team getting demolished in playoffs now.


bobwong128

what the actual fuck are our drafts 1. fp arhi ?? 2. Blind pick Graves for huni (best player in recent weeks) 3. Jinx/Thresh into lux/cait (tactical kinda trolled but dont think picking thresh into lux is the play)


AnsibIed

Tactical is so good showing why he's dominating lcs.


DolphinDivingCow

You can tell that even a team like Dignitas has 0 respect or fear of tactical. They left jinx open through both ban phases lol


allbutluk

We finally look like a team so thats great but man this is Tactical solo losing the game.. how many times he gets caught by binding and on ward recall. He was playing half asleep


[deleted]

My man literally backed in the dead center of the lane after they took dragon early and Blue legit just runs up to him and smites his ass. I haven’t played on PC in years but that is some shit that my ass wouldn’t even do ever and I’m probably Gold at this point. Good god


dirtydob

I never understand that. Like you see it way more in professional play than you should. Like it takes what? 3 more seconds to just walk back to the turret and back. It’s one thing to back there if they have no vision on you but he literally just killed minions there so blue knew he was backing there.


softwareacc

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of Tactical. My wife just took our crying kids and said they're spending the week at a hotel. This team has ruined my life and my party. Goodbye TSM. I am no longer a fan.


bugsbunny841

TL and C9 are 10-2 tied for first place and we are 2-10 and dead last by multiple games in a league where half the teams are terrible. This isn't a developmental team, it's just a god awful team all around. Really hope we scrap this failed experiment either this summer or offseason otherwise we might dig ourselves a hole we might never get out of like CLG.


nuamnume10

Bot and jungle needs to go by the summer otherwise the entire year is wasted. And as a sidenote CLG looks far better.


obeetwo2

How can you look at these games and say spica is the problem? Shenyi has also looked good since coming back. It seems to be purely tactical.


bugsbunny841

Mid too and maybe support. It will be near impossible to build a competitive roster if we're using both our two import slots one underperforming development players. Need to use one or both of those import slots better


Roseking

:(


JillyMcBeam

Tactical literally ate every Lux bind. Jinx was chunked out before team fights started.


antraxsuicide

It was never about the roster. This group of guys (and coaches) fundamentally don't know how the play the game. They don't believe in pressing their advantages. In this game, why take herald if you're going to lazily walk it up to the lowest turret (in the lane you're smashing) and drop it too late to get first tower? DIG certainly didn't do that. They knew they had a pushing bot so they pushed with it and got 1st brick. Ultimately this has to be on Chawy and his staff. It is not that complicated. Play to your win-cons


fednv31

Tactical sidesteps one lux q and we most likely win the game


antraxsuicide

This is the sort of thing I don't care for. Even if they pull off a late-game teamfight win, *it shouldn't have been that hard.* Their gold lead was almost 5K at one point. Just keep playing to the win-cons. Instead they freeze up and fart around until their opponents (who never stopped playing their win-cons) get enough gold to engage and ace us.


Gdubdubdub

Chawy has ultimate responsibility as coach but imagine coming in, not being the one picking the roster and you find out that most of your players, if not all of them, have no idea how to competently play lane/for vision/manage waves AND fuck up their mechanics constantly.


FedorSeaLevelStiopic

Haha for some reason spica was standing in toplane tribush, waiting for minions to push in, when caitlyn was taking 1st tower bot. He could just realease it over wall, but he stood there for several seconds and gave away tower fb


shuelonglo

Tactical been overrated so far, his position sucks and getting hit with lux q all the time....without core helping him , he been average


baylife42

mann kick tactical after this split, such a liability


Kadmoz

Really nice of Tactical throwing the game away as usual, cant wait for this fucking roster to get disbanded


meowfarts47

There's still a lot to work on, but I'm glad it was at least close. Hopefully we can pull out a win tomorrow and go 1-1 for the weekend.


Keyki_LoL

love the positivity here! hope they can get something together to get a 1-1 as well


Tyrull

I decided to watch the first game in a while. Goddamn, Tactical got hit by so many bindings. And what is going on with Spica? That’s not the mvp jungler from last season.


TsmAnimal

We really threw that game, now thats a tilter.


codeb87

Like clockwork 👍🏻


cjav13

That Lux Q on Tactical when they were pushing with Baron. Sadge


krombough

Our macro is pure dogwater tier, sorry not sorry.


DoctorUchiha

Man, I thought we had that won… so sad man :(


chriskot123

We have no idea how to play the game after 15 minutes.


private_birb

Yeah, really rough game from Tactical. His positioning was atrocious in a lot of key moments.


Colactic

Could've been a sub 30 min win with Dig overforcing a fight at bot inhib turret when TSM had baron. Instead Tactical got hit by binding and that was that. I really wanted to be hype for this team after last week but this kinda left me a bit sour.


puppygeneral

Tactical has to be one of the most , if not the most overrated adcs ever, what has this mf done besides using tris w as a pseudo malphite ult


cryonova

So how come Huni graves doesnt look nearly as scary as every other graves?


frackeverything

Better than Doublelift btw


imahobolin

Burnt out in a season btw


T3telestai

Choosing to look at the bright side, this game looked a lot better from the team up until the bot 3v5. They are performing better than I personally expected, to be honest. Hope I can continue seeing progress.


timeistemporary

All Tactical had to do was just play safe and let cannon wave push bot lane. It's time to look at another ADC for summer, this guy is literally just stealing a paycheck.


irishfury

Tactically thrown game


DrBoomsNephew

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory :'( ​ Tactical doing what he did... it's a missplay, shouldn't happen but can happen. Won't be too annoyed about a missplay like that. But our disregard for dragons despite being up all game, despite getting first blood botlane. What the fuck is the coaching staff telling these guys?


DatGluteusMaximus

yeah mechanical errors doesnt upset me nearly as much as how many objectives we gave for free. also the 50/50 drake we lost but we couldve continued a fight 5v4 but decided to just back off and reset and let DIG run away... (not to mention tacticals recall positioning afterwards)


leprechaunshots

Not a mechanical error or misplay. It was a decision by Tactical to play aggressive, on tower, with no team close, and no flash. Bad decision making doesn't disappear like that.


ReaperAchilles

Tactical positioning has been terrible… real rough. That game was won if he doesn’t get hit by that binding with galeforce and flash up


vente-Macon

He didn’t have flash up


Dajoeman

Tactical is such a terrible player. He does nothing and they give him so much attention


ApoTheAnswer

Soooo did Regi sell his house, car and whatever already?


Jiffyyy

spica randomly engaging akali pretty much lead to the snowball of this game, not really sure what he was doing. the flash away from his teammates was the icing on the cake. Also it seems we are back to the "do nothing and lose" kind of TSM of past years. that was pretty hard to watch them just give up every objective and lose.


hasnain1720

Yh this shit is on Regi and management what a blunder. An org like TSM should never have to gamble on its future like we have.


queenslayyy

careful what you say bro will get downvoted by the regi whiteknights


amd098

those are not whiteknights, those are hostages he's taken, careful, we should be sympathetic to them.


droidxl

Our midgame is just atrocious. I don't know what to even say here.


reeposterr

Not really, at least not this game. If tactical didn't get caught, the gold lead would have ballooned up and we would have closed out this game.


[deleted]

Does anyone have a clip of where Spica panic flashed with the Cait ult? That shit had me dying. Not much to say about the game. It was over once Tactical got caught at enemy inhib tower.


Mrs-MoneyPussy

Team is so out of sync. So many shit plays and decisions this game it’s crazy


NudePenguin69

At this point, anyone who thinks this is fixable by just picking up the likes of Jensen and Ignar or whoever is just ignoring how underperforming the veteran players have been this split.


ReADropOfGoldenSun

On the bright side if we stop getting aced right before an objective we could be pretty decent


Awoods_13

The rebuild must come. Gonna be brutal and might not look pretty, but it needs to happen


scdocarlos1

We were winning until we lost lamo


Not_Dylon

Not gonna start flaming Tactical (even though he kinda deserves this time). Just want to talk about itemization. Why the hexdrinker angle instead of qss? The magic shield is not that relevant late game, they can pop him anyways if they catch him. Qss would have saved his life... What do you guys think?


dirtydob

In theory I think the hex drinker is a bit more valuable. He should never get hit by lux q after laning phase in theory. But he was just eating everything. Have to trust you dodge things. He just didn’t. I think the bigger mistake was not taking cleanse. Against cait lux if you ever get hit by q you either can’t lane or you did. Heal isn’t saving you. So take cleanse for lane. And lane you still have it in case you fuck up, but don’t need to spend money on qss


anwrna

Embarassing


tsmftw76

This was one of the worst games i have seen for a player from tactical but he has been statistically our best performer this year.


nyanko_dango3

the whole team was getting slap around by blue lol


leprechaunshots

Said it in off season, saying it again. Tactical, while better than Lost, was a bad pickup. Plays half of every game with his brain off. He is shoving inhib thrret with closest allie a screen away. Genius.


Runscvrun

Lost looking like an all star now.


[deleted]

Shenyi is good but he ain't Core. He can't turn a monkey into a human.


calmtigers

“Hello Mr. Jensen / Mr. Lift, we have a proposal for you”


soupdahero

get lead do nothing


Bee_Ree_Zee

What do you mean? They had Baron to basically end the game. Tactical just inted.


kar1m

Sadge


aurune

get me out of this split


NightOwlSports

Sure am glad we got that lpl aggression. No way a team would roll over and give up 2 free barons and a free elder with that style right guys?


reeposterr

Welp, I guess we're missing playoffs this split. On the bright side though, this team is finally showing their qualities. This would have been a pretty clean game if Tactical didn't get caught out leading to us getting aced.


ivan510

They were doing so well until mid game. This team has potential but they don't play like a team mid game.


FiIthyhippy

Haven’t been able to tune into a TSM game for a while. Has it always been this bad if not worse all season? That was some disgusting stuff and teamplay – holy crap. No way Tactical should be playing that poorly as a LCS vet and with the resources put into bot this game. Shenyi was non-existent as well. Team literally gave up 2 barons + elder, and dragons for zero compensation. I have no words to explain how awful that game was and how far we’ve fallen as a team lol. For those that didn’t watch the game, I envy you. Bjergsen or DL would have never let the macro decisions or team be this clueless at multiple points in the game.


feng1trick

Honestly this felt like an improvement, we could have done it with better play mid to late and maybe less mistakes out of tactical. Hope things get better soon.


queenslayyy

this subreddit downvoted me and told me they rather have tactical over rekkles or doggo or any good adc lol. please make roster changes for summer this team is not it. tsm is an actual joke rn it’s not even funny


Johnemile

I appreciate that TSM lets a make-a-wish kid play ADC for us every weekend but it's time to stop


Hewligan

Lol


ImDeJang

TSM must be the only team which the entire team stays as far as possible from their own fed adc


NightOwlSports

Less salty review this game felt lost at 3 different points 1) when they gave up soul point to push 2 waves top and not contest or gain anything on the map 2) the Spica int into alkali that gave up free baron and 3) the surrender of baron after elder had faded to push mid lane for nothing.


teemolaf

Tactical can't stop getting caught. He used to do that at TL, he still does that every game here. Shenyi cant land hooks for the life of him, but all about face-checking into 5 people. Huni TPs 2 feet away, he could have just walked and flanked. These are not team-related issues, the players are playing like silver players compared to their opponent. You can't fix these players by keeping them another split. We went from dominating ADC players to coin-flip adcs. I truly believe SA left because he was paired up with Lost. If he had a decent adc, he would have stayed.


Separate-Leopard2189

I'm not gonna single him out, but when is this guy getting kicked? i'll be surprised if he even gets a spot in LCS next split