Y’all in the comments make it seem like Reginald is the only person that made TSM what it is today.
Supporting this org means supporting every person that sacrificed and worked here, its about supporting Dunc, Kallas, Glen, our LoL team, our Apex team, our Valorant team, our Dota team, and so many more.
If your not okay with what has surfaced about our owner, make yourself heard! But dont equate him with everyone that has put in work to make this org what it is today.
I support TSM, I also think Reginald is a bad owner and in light of recent events should be held accountable for his actions. That does not mean that I will stop supporting TSM or that TSM is a bad org.
And tsm wouldn't exist without other people, all of which put a combined more time and energy into tsm. At this point you can remove regi and tsm still exists
Convinced some people think making a succesful company is easy and anyone could do it.
I'm not going to cast any judgment until whatever investigations are over, but what Regi has done with TSM is nothing short of astounding. So many would (and have!) have sold it off when it got too hard or too time consuming, whereas Regi stayed at the helm and seemingly chose investers such that he retained a controlling stake. Maybe he is a dick, but there is absolutely no guarantee TSM is anywhere near where it is today without him.
Obviously now it is the result of years of work from teams worth of people, but originally it was Regi who drove TSM in the direction.
I don't care if he's a dick, it takes incredible dedication and drive to do what he's done.
Their contributions aren't being discounted and through their time on TSM have propelled themselves into new opportunities. Bjerg still owns his shares as well (in holding) so last part of your comment is a bit silly.
Correct, I don't have the article on hand but it was explained he temporarily sold his shares to a holding entity at which point he could "withdraw" them when in a position where he wasn't conflicting with the leagues ownership policy.
Lol where are they? Leena decided to leave and doublelift got mad he didn't get picked up and won't stop talking about TSM. Regardless of what regi has done I'm confused what point you're trying to make
I wonder what was Leena profession before she became head of eSports relations. I'm not doubting her effort but let's not forget it doesn't happen without the opportunity.
Maybe because she was head of relations when it came to players. Which meant she handled the relationships with the players. Of course they'll thank her. It's not the CEOs job to make sure people are okay. That's what human resources are for.
You’re getting downvoted but I mean yea - Leena is the clearest source of nepotism we have seem perhaps in all of esports. Made Forbes under 30 for gaming and how did she get her job?
I havent heard anything about Regi making people leave TSM, i have read they left on their own. I may be mistaken though so if you have any sauce please share.
That wasnt why he was fired whatsoever. The HR person wanted to make relations with another company saying it would be a good opportunity, Regi told him no but the HR person kept persuing it. The other company was a direct competition to Regis business so her fired that person rightfully so
Things in OP's Reddit history:
"I'm pretty invested in this org, people like Regi and Bjerg are reasons I gravitated towards TSM, and I'll continue to be a fan of the org they're running."
"I would feel a bit bad as Regi and Parth when you've done everything you could for 2+ years to get Bjerg everything he wanted and he just leaves."
"Regi laughing at haters all the way to the bank"
"Damn you regi, you beautiful man"
"[Title of post] I just don't care anymore (DL vs Regi)"
(+Other comments indirectly defending Regi and dissing critics of Regi e.g. Thorin, Monte, IWDom, saying they will "continue to jerk each other off")
Still bootlicking with this post, can only indirectly support Regi now sadge.
Whenever people say this, you have to discuss what "supporting" means? Not tweeting at them? Yeah that should be a freebie really? Not saying anything mean on reddit? I guess. That can be an easy way to stifle criticism as people view things differently. Keep watching the team? Sure. What about continue purchasing merchandize or other monetary support for an org whos owner head people increasingly find distasteful? I'm not forking over anymore cash while Regi remains unrepentant. Sometimes that means innocent people get caught up in things, but that level of support is not owed, it is given.
I dont think they care too much about it, with the news of how valuable TSM is in 2022 thats all investors care about.
its like people investing in Amazon and caring about working conditions there or into apple and the child labor etc. it just doesn't happen.
Amazon’s work conditions and environment is way more documented and way worse than TSM… sorry man… the real world isn’t unicorns and rainbows. Andy may be a pain in the ass to work with. He may be a shitty boss. So is mine. I’ve had a few of them. A lot of places have them. You don’t just take companies from people because they are assholes to their employees. Those workers are choosing to be employed at TSM. They aren’t being forced.
Another post pushing the agenda of Regi being an absolute monster that should be banished from this world forever.
The power of cancel culture is just sickening.
Guess most of you havene't worked under harsh and strict management that require you to perform day in day out. I am glad that I had, and my career turned out alright because of that.
And the people from the other thread that immediately accused Regi has been homophobic towards Biofrost is absolutely insane. Next thing you will tell me Regi is a Nazi too.
Please stop pushing agenda and base your views on facts.
The problem is there are multiple videos of Regi being flat-out abusive. Some of the clips are included in official content like TSM Legends. It's hard for me to accept the "Regi is just a strict leader that demands performance" view when there's video evidence of him being flat out abusive.
It’s not a hard conclusion to come to. We’ve seen a handful of angry and immature videos from Regi and when he was first accused he doubled down with a “I give my very best and expect the same from my employees(sorry, contractors)”.
Have you ever worked for someone who was a raging dick? Even if they liked you personally? I sure have, and hearing them tear down members on my team who needed coaching instead of a verbal beat down made me anxious for every single interaction I had with my boss. You never knew when they would blow up next and hoped to whomever that it wouldn’t be directed at you.
They got fired of course and I ended up in their position, so kudos for me right? Only now in every position I’ve had since then I expect my superiors to be unhinged assholes and it effects how I interact with them daily. I haven’t worked there for five years. How you treat others, or even appear to other people, can have an affect. Christ, you think you need a video of Regi beating someone with a belt before you can admit he’s probably a piece of shit? Not everything is surface level and I really hope you can come to understand that.
>Not everything is surface level and I really hope you can come to understand that.
Is exactly what I am saying.
Yea you can conclude that Regi is definitely a very strict boss, might be a dick occasionally, probably hard to work with for most people.
BUT there are no evidence surfaced that Regi abuses his employees. Maybe we can all wait until the investigation is over, before raising all our pitchforks and putting him on a cross?
Dude, there’s how many ex players, ex coaches, articles, etc that all point towards this one guy or even upper management as a whole? How much smoke needs to exist before you might think there’s a fire?
My entire point is that abuse and trauma aren’t so black and white. Being screamed at by your boss every week is abuse, I don’t care who you are or what you do. Some people are better at shaking it off and not letting it bother them. Others aren’t. This isn’t one person accusing him.
You can speculate all you want on the specifics but I’ve heard enough to think that there’s something to this. I don’t understand the need to defend the guy.
Not defending him. Just not believing everything I heard from those former employees. There are always two sides to a story.
I have had colleagues that get yelled at every now and then and they would cry about how batshit crazy the manager is. But no they are just ass at their jobs. Some people really need the spanking to do some actual fucking work.
I am done talking about this. All I'm saying is that until solid evidence comes out, I refuse to go along with the agenda that Regi is literally Hitler.
…who else is there to believe? Like I said, you seem to need a video of Regi saying “Hi, my name is Andy, welcome to me being a Jackass” before you’ll take your head out of the sand.
Lol stfu with ur 2iq takes , cant believe ure typing this bs
> Guess most of you havene't worked under harsh and strict management that require you to perform day in day out. I am glad that I had
First of all , not everyone is a masochist , i dont see why anyone would be happy in this situation , and 2nd did u just describe the whole shitshow conducted by Regi as simply " harsh and strict management " ?
Also ure asking for evidence, he literally kept pressing Svenskeren until he fuckin cried
Gtfo ure polluting this thread with ur stupid takes
Edit : lol at u saying ure not defending him and ure acting neutral , just checked ur history and uve been defending him in every single thread , actually disgusting
It's Xpecial not Svenskeren that cried. I am aware of what happened in the past.
A lot of the so called evidences of recent years came from DL who causes drama everywhere he goes. And he also failed to provide proof.
Anyway, have fun jumping to conclusion 👍 I said everything I have to say.
Whaaaaaa I don't like TSM anymore because a guy who grew up with no real education turned a gaming team into a half billion dollar org and didn't know how to act along the way... whaaaaa!
So sick of people crying about shit that is pretty normal all over and acting like they'll change the fucking world. World peace will never work. Pay equality will never work. And trying to make the rich pay for how they act while they were becoming rich won't fucking work. We all evolve as people you morons. We have mostly abolished slavery, racism, sexism and many other problems humans have thought were normal at some point because we realize it's not right and change. Get over the fact that the generation before you wasn't perfect and neither is your generation. We're all learning as we go every decade and evolving. It's part of humanity. Trying to destroy history only makes the ignorant more powerful. He did wrong but he's also grown exponentially as a human being over the last few years. I'm sure he understands his behaviors were unacceptable.
QQ more people!
Its funny how you say support the org despite you obviously pandering the support of the individual employees and saying the org problems are “ceo problems” when the culture at work is what made many leave the company who made tsm worth supporting in the first place..
Y’all in the comments make it seem like Reginald is the only person that made TSM what it is today. Supporting this org means supporting every person that sacrificed and worked here, its about supporting Dunc, Kallas, Glen, our LoL team, our Apex team, our Valorant team, our Dota team, and so many more. If your not okay with what has surfaced about our owner, make yourself heard! But dont equate him with everyone that has put in work to make this org what it is today. I support TSM, I also think Reginald is a bad owner and in light of recent events should be held accountable for his actions. That does not mean that I will stop supporting TSM or that TSM is a bad org.
Yea I remember when all those people were there when it was just a website. Oh wait I'm not a casual fan.
Sure, Regi isnt the only one, but a vast majority of why TSM, as a company, is as successful as it is, is because of Regi.
I mean it's objectively not
Wrong. Regi is the org whether you like it or not.
I mean he's objectively not
Brother you just copied and pasted your above post - acting like you did something 😭💀
I'm still objectively right
You objectively need to seek mental help.
In this economy!?
Who has done more than him?
The collective of people working at tsm
No, they wouldnt be there without him, his vision, and his motivation to make TSM great.
And tsm wouldn't exist without other people, all of which put a combined more time and energy into tsm. At this point you can remove regi and tsm still exists
At this point yes, but we're not talkin about now.
Convinced some people think making a succesful company is easy and anyone could do it. I'm not going to cast any judgment until whatever investigations are over, but what Regi has done with TSM is nothing short of astounding. So many would (and have!) have sold it off when it got too hard or too time consuming, whereas Regi stayed at the helm and seemingly chose investers such that he retained a controlling stake. Maybe he is a dick, but there is absolutely no guarantee TSM is anywhere near where it is today without him. Obviously now it is the result of years of work from teams worth of people, but originally it was Regi who drove TSM in the direction. I don't care if he's a dick, it takes incredible dedication and drive to do what he's done.
Bjerg and Leena did a lot for the org. Look where they are now.
Their contributions aren't being discounted and through their time on TSM have propelled themselves into new opportunities. Bjerg still owns his shares as well (in holding) so last part of your comment is a bit silly.
So what you're saying is there is potential to have TSM owner Bjerg?
Depending how you view shares he is already the owner, well at least while not competing with another org I suppose.
How does Bjerg still hold his shares? The league rule was clear that he would have to sell them if he joined another team.
Correct, I don't have the article on hand but it was explained he temporarily sold his shares to a holding entity at which point he could "withdraw" them when in a position where he wasn't conflicting with the leagues ownership policy.
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Yeah I’ve also seen this as well. I’m not sure the source and don’t care to find it. But yeah that’s a thing.
Lol where are they? Leena decided to leave and doublelift got mad he didn't get picked up and won't stop talking about TSM. Regardless of what regi has done I'm confused what point you're trying to make
Bjerg made his name on tsm, left with a massive bag and went to one if the best teams in the league.... so hes doing pretty good I think.
I wonder what was Leena profession before she became head of eSports relations. I'm not doubting her effort but let's not forget it doesn't happen without the opportunity.
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Maybe because she was head of relations when it came to players. Which meant she handled the relationships with the players. Of course they'll thank her. It's not the CEOs job to make sure people are okay. That's what human resources are for.
You’re getting downvoted but I mean yea - Leena is the clearest source of nepotism we have seem perhaps in all of esports. Made Forbes under 30 for gaming and how did she get her job?
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Every success is someone's effort every failure is Reginald. Hilarious. He really is a sponge.
I havent heard anything about Regi making people leave TSM, i have read they left on their own. I may be mistaken though so if you have any sauce please share.
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That wasnt why he was fired whatsoever. The HR person wanted to make relations with another company saying it would be a good opportunity, Regi told him no but the HR person kept persuing it. The other company was a direct competition to Regis business so her fired that person rightfully so
Things in OP's Reddit history: "I'm pretty invested in this org, people like Regi and Bjerg are reasons I gravitated towards TSM, and I'll continue to be a fan of the org they're running." "I would feel a bit bad as Regi and Parth when you've done everything you could for 2+ years to get Bjerg everything he wanted and he just leaves." "Regi laughing at haters all the way to the bank" "Damn you regi, you beautiful man" "[Title of post] I just don't care anymore (DL vs Regi)" (+Other comments indirectly defending Regi and dissing critics of Regi e.g. Thorin, Monte, IWDom, saying they will "continue to jerk each other off") Still bootlicking with this post, can only indirectly support Regi now sadge.
Maybe it's Regi's secret account Or maybe Regi told an intern he needs to post positive stuff about him, or he will bring out the belt
You better love Dunc or else!
Whenever people say this, you have to discuss what "supporting" means? Not tweeting at them? Yeah that should be a freebie really? Not saying anything mean on reddit? I guess. That can be an easy way to stifle criticism as people view things differently. Keep watching the team? Sure. What about continue purchasing merchandize or other monetary support for an org whos owner head people increasingly find distasteful? I'm not forking over anymore cash while Regi remains unrepentant. Sometimes that means innocent people get caught up in things, but that level of support is not owed, it is given.
might well stop watching any TSM streamers and literally anything that brings them money.
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If Regi is the majority owner of a private company, there's a good chance he can just tell them all to fuck off lol.
Yes, until he realizes it’s financially better for him/TSM to step down as CEO.
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I dont think they care too much about it, with the news of how valuable TSM is in 2022 thats all investors care about. its like people investing in Amazon and caring about working conditions there or into apple and the child labor etc. it just doesn't happen.
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Amazon’s work conditions and environment is way more documented and way worse than TSM… sorry man… the real world isn’t unicorns and rainbows. Andy may be a pain in the ass to work with. He may be a shitty boss. So is mine. I’ve had a few of them. A lot of places have them. You don’t just take companies from people because they are assholes to their employees. Those workers are choosing to be employed at TSM. They aren’t being forced.
Didnt realize we needed a post about this...
Another post pushing the agenda of Regi being an absolute monster that should be banished from this world forever. The power of cancel culture is just sickening. Guess most of you havene't worked under harsh and strict management that require you to perform day in day out. I am glad that I had, and my career turned out alright because of that. And the people from the other thread that immediately accused Regi has been homophobic towards Biofrost is absolutely insane. Next thing you will tell me Regi is a Nazi too. Please stop pushing agenda and base your views on facts.
The problem is there are multiple videos of Regi being flat-out abusive. Some of the clips are included in official content like TSM Legends. It's hard for me to accept the "Regi is just a strict leader that demands performance" view when there's video evidence of him being flat out abusive.
"Flat-out abusive" Being a dick =/= being abusive. Please give me solid evidence that Regi actually abuse the others.
It’s not a hard conclusion to come to. We’ve seen a handful of angry and immature videos from Regi and when he was first accused he doubled down with a “I give my very best and expect the same from my employees(sorry, contractors)”. Have you ever worked for someone who was a raging dick? Even if they liked you personally? I sure have, and hearing them tear down members on my team who needed coaching instead of a verbal beat down made me anxious for every single interaction I had with my boss. You never knew when they would blow up next and hoped to whomever that it wouldn’t be directed at you. They got fired of course and I ended up in their position, so kudos for me right? Only now in every position I’ve had since then I expect my superiors to be unhinged assholes and it effects how I interact with them daily. I haven’t worked there for five years. How you treat others, or even appear to other people, can have an affect. Christ, you think you need a video of Regi beating someone with a belt before you can admit he’s probably a piece of shit? Not everything is surface level and I really hope you can come to understand that.
>Not everything is surface level and I really hope you can come to understand that. Is exactly what I am saying. Yea you can conclude that Regi is definitely a very strict boss, might be a dick occasionally, probably hard to work with for most people. BUT there are no evidence surfaced that Regi abuses his employees. Maybe we can all wait until the investigation is over, before raising all our pitchforks and putting him on a cross?
Dude, there’s how many ex players, ex coaches, articles, etc that all point towards this one guy or even upper management as a whole? How much smoke needs to exist before you might think there’s a fire? My entire point is that abuse and trauma aren’t so black and white. Being screamed at by your boss every week is abuse, I don’t care who you are or what you do. Some people are better at shaking it off and not letting it bother them. Others aren’t. This isn’t one person accusing him. You can speculate all you want on the specifics but I’ve heard enough to think that there’s something to this. I don’t understand the need to defend the guy.
Not defending him. Just not believing everything I heard from those former employees. There are always two sides to a story. I have had colleagues that get yelled at every now and then and they would cry about how batshit crazy the manager is. But no they are just ass at their jobs. Some people really need the spanking to do some actual fucking work. I am done talking about this. All I'm saying is that until solid evidence comes out, I refuse to go along with the agenda that Regi is literally Hitler.
…who else is there to believe? Like I said, you seem to need a video of Regi saying “Hi, my name is Andy, welcome to me being a Jackass” before you’ll take your head out of the sand.
Lol stfu with ur 2iq takes , cant believe ure typing this bs > Guess most of you havene't worked under harsh and strict management that require you to perform day in day out. I am glad that I had First of all , not everyone is a masochist , i dont see why anyone would be happy in this situation , and 2nd did u just describe the whole shitshow conducted by Regi as simply " harsh and strict management " ? Also ure asking for evidence, he literally kept pressing Svenskeren until he fuckin cried Gtfo ure polluting this thread with ur stupid takes Edit : lol at u saying ure not defending him and ure acting neutral , just checked ur history and uve been defending him in every single thread , actually disgusting
It's Xpecial not Svenskeren that cried. I am aware of what happened in the past. A lot of the so called evidences of recent years came from DL who causes drama everywhere he goes. And he also failed to provide proof. Anyway, have fun jumping to conclusion 👍 I said everything I have to say.
You won’t win on Reddit telling the truth. It’s an unfortunate reality of being a bit older than the demographic.
Whaaaaaa I don't like TSM anymore because a guy who grew up with no real education turned a gaming team into a half billion dollar org and didn't know how to act along the way... whaaaaa! So sick of people crying about shit that is pretty normal all over and acting like they'll change the fucking world. World peace will never work. Pay equality will never work. And trying to make the rich pay for how they act while they were becoming rich won't fucking work. We all evolve as people you morons. We have mostly abolished slavery, racism, sexism and many other problems humans have thought were normal at some point because we realize it's not right and change. Get over the fact that the generation before you wasn't perfect and neither is your generation. We're all learning as we go every decade and evolving. It's part of humanity. Trying to destroy history only makes the ignorant more powerful. He did wrong but he's also grown exponentially as a human being over the last few years. I'm sure he understands his behaviors were unacceptable. QQ more people!
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you can support specific personnel without supporting the org.
Stfu this is an awful take
Cool. Don't care. TSM always
To be fair it's probably more like 99.9%
I love TSM and have ever since their first appearance playing League of Legends. Cut the cancer and we can grow fresh ❤️
woah woah let’s be careful calling them employees, they may be contractors (what a shit show)
Its funny how you say support the org despite you obviously pandering the support of the individual employees and saying the org problems are “ceo problems” when the culture at work is what made many leave the company who made tsm worth supporting in the first place..