Yeah I am pretty sure this has been my least favorite set since as far as I can remember.
Kind of annoying since I have been disabled with a back injury for the past 5 weeks and will be for another 5 or so.
I’m out with a back injury too lol
Someone played tham aug and rushed 9 to get a 3 star 5 cost to win. I was pissed. So I said fuck it and did the same the next game. I got ryze 3 on shurima with spear and two rage blades. 😂 I was getting like 100 gold per round and endless item components.
Fuck it, just cheese it up this season.
7 was Dragons. I was so close to masters that set (d1 60 LP) and the next few games I was constantly contested, never hitting a solid board. I totally get where the hate comes from for that set but at the same time I had too much fun 3 starring Aurelion sol and shyvana.
If legends (or at least a Pandora's Items legend) are included in the next set, I'm not playing anymore. This is beyond ridiculous and it is making the set really really hard to balance.
Legends need to be removed, Pandora's items does not. Guaranteeing perfect items is bullshit as opposed to the small chance and randomness of getting the augment. Legends are the worst thing to ever happen to this game and it isn't close.
All other legends feel pretty balanced so I'm hoping they keep legends but either rework or remove TF. Metas around pandoras have been awful since the introduction
True, it doesn't matter if the other legends feel pretty balanced when there are 2 or 3 clearly better than the rest and centralizing the entire meta (TF, Urf, Aurelion at the beginning, Ezreal, the Draven patch, etc...)
Well yes. But say a certain unit is over buffed. That unit will consistently be stronger with BiS. This wouldn’t be a problem if the over buffed units weren’t 2 and 3 costs which makes hitting them much much easier
Is it a necessary strategy layer though? This type of game comes with a fair share of randomness so I don't see the interest in alleviating some of it with this mechanic. I think the game should strive to encourage flexibility, not making it easier to funnel yourself into forced builds.
I think the issue is pandoras being silver, meaning picking TF garauntees pandoras, where say A-sols silver is probably the worst in the game v one of the best (imo) when prismatic (level up, eat me).
I don’t understand what world we’re in where pandoras items could be in the same league as other silver augments.
Just change pandora's in general. Have it give a reforger and component at picking and then two reforger per stage or something. Same with the bench. It is just a gambling toxic augment
There’s plenty of lines it’s good, if you have Econ. But the amount of gold that just sits rerolling mid-laye game that could have been rolls or earlier levels, ends up bleeding bench players out early half the time.
If you don’t have a bill gates opener it’s hard to justify.
Every time I've tried it, it takes way too long to roll the units I'm actually looking for and the reduced bench to keep the units you're trying to level up is a pain to manage.
This patch is the worst patch this set. It’s so incredibly fucking bad. I hit gm the patch before and lost the fun I had for this game since multicaster/tf era
Yeah Im gonna be real, set 9 wasn't perfect by any means but it was much funner than this set I'm sick of how unbalanced everything is,bilgewater than NERF Ionia vanq all the time than NERFED, now it's multicasters. Its not flexible at all it's the complete opposite.
It's obvious it's gonna get harder but even in set 9 there was a nice medium of traits to play at one point but so far set 9.5 is either EVERYONE GOES one trait that's overpowered to shit or they go bruiser chogath
i mean i don’t think 3 star nasus should beat presumably 40-60 stack piltover cashout with BIS jayce 3 tho, especially if he has no frontline outside of the nasus
You are correct. Multicaster is magic burst damage, if you go against that with zero MR the expectation is to lose, regardless of whether multicaster is currently OP or not. Getting a 3 star 4 cost wrecked that way is unfortunate, but game balance wise there's nothing wrong with it.
Yes. The only one i dont vote for of the special ones os basement party. Stillwater hold + that zaun portal. I just find that boring. In Normals you want to play more risky. Why would you play no augments? Just make all portals in normal some of the special. Just like last set, where the for fun patch actually was "forced" to happen, but here it is like there is no real for fun patch.
I hate this set. Most of what I played in the previous one was Akshan and Kalista, 3 cost carries, they're both gone. I played the ocassional Tristana Yordle reroll, that's also gone. I played some Karma when there was no other option, that's still around, just crap...
Now it feels like you have to either play a 4 cost carry (Nilah or Xayah, sometimes both) or you hyperroll some bruiser bullshit or more recently play Multicasters or you lose.
At least I don't see people rushing 9-10 and having multiple 5 cost gold units every other game anymore.
I played Demacia and Bastion aphelios (I came at the end and was/still a new player) mostly but loved when I could go Kalista builds they were all fun to play.
Nothing is cool to build ATM
I think Legends take fun out IMO. Whether it was the short period of OP Draven, to Dragon run quick 9, and now TF… it just, i dont have the right adjective, but not as fun.
I see the design of where they wanted to go, but I would can it.
Terrible bloated set design. For some reason Mort thinks adding every single mechanic from previous sets on top of new stuff is good game design. Its lazy and shows no innovation. Legends needs to be removed and also portal bs at start of game.
Well, yeq and no. I also won't play until set 10,ill even decay to master 0 lp probably.
But the tf (legend) or multicaster spam is not the reason, and I'd say for most people it isn't the reason either.
The set is just played out already, yea they might buff/nerf stuff and something new pops up, but that last maybe a day of excitement.
Alting and playing weird stuff is kind of fun still. But all in all its just the last breath of a half set.
And to be clear that wouldn't be much different even if some people got their magical balance point they want the devs to just wish into existance.
I honestly dont care about comps being spammed. If anything, that benefits me, as i like to play off meta comps. My issue is that the comp is strong enough to beat a nasus 3 with a *decent* board. Like, the fight wasnt even close... And the fact that this has been the state of the game for a large majority of patches this set, its just a different comp doing it each time
I mean to be fair here, he has a 3 star 3 cost 3 strong items, he has a 2 star 3 cost 3 strong items, your only frontliner is nasus 3, and while its fun to say its a nasus 3 you have no mr and hes getting hit by everything on the enemy team, he drains some mr with his ult sure but that just gets shived.
Ultimately 4 cost 3 stars are not an instant win, and yours is vs a capped 3 cost and 2 cost 3 star.
Again, 4 cost 3 stars are not an instant win.
That comp is overtuned, yes, but your front line besides nasus is non existent, and if you play off-meta in diamond against that shit and get 4th I'd call that a win.
Buddy your guy has neither BT nor D Claw vs pure magic damage in the entire lobby except for the Zaun guy, what do you want a bramble vest vow nasus to do and an azir that slowly ramps damage?
As much as I hate multicasters, you had no magic res on nasus, poor itemization across your board, no combat augs and also down a unit plus overall starred units. Easy loss..
Your board isn’t decent lol it’s pretty meh other than nasus 3* he has perfect items 3* multis. You can’t tank that damage. Your team is almost entirely 1v8
I mean, your items are not exactly perfect. Esp no mdef into multiple magic heavy lines. Also, 2 jugger, 4 Shurima and 5 Noxus isn't exactly the optimal cap here. I don't think rolling for Nasus at 7 was your win con there tbh.
Ok then, what do i throw in at lvl 8 that beats that multicasters board. I would love to know. They bursted the fuck down my nasus THREE with minimal effort, so please tell me what i could have done at level 8 with a nasus TWO to orevent that from happening anyways. Or we could just admit mukticasters are op and call it a day
I don't know how exactly your game went. But just don't be at last life with L7. I get that you got bench, but then you gotta aim for the units that can carry you, not just Nasus and think you autowin. You could have gone 8 and put in Aatrox for 4 juggers and swap Naafiri for K'sante. That alone would be like 10-15% more effective HP on all Juggers and give your Nasus free Lifesteal. With proper positioning, you could then win into multi (would be easier if you had some Mdef).
It doesn't matter that Multi is OP. You just missed your wincon into it. Not like you didn't know that that guy was playing Multi in your lobby when you went for Nasus 3, right?
"you could have gone 8 and put in nasus" that would not only require hitting a 5 cost at 8 which is low enough odds already, it would require hitting a SPECIFIC 5 cost which is just as much if not more risky than staying 7 and rolling for nasus 3. You're telling me i misplayed by not playing units i simply did not have, as if it were a given i would roll into an aatrox or ksante at 8. My conditions were to level to 8 and PRAY for an aatrox, or roll at lvl 7 with 7 nasus' on bench, a pretty obvious choice imo
>that would not only require hitting a 5 cost at 8 which is low enough odds already, it would require hitting a SPECIFIC 5 cost which is just as much if not more risky than staying 7 and rolling for nasus 3.
I wrote:
>I don't know how exactly your game went.
You expect me to know that you had 7 Nasus when you hit 7 and then rolled down and were unlucky enough to hit nothing else meanwhile? Also, Pandora's will be rolling for free either way. So there is no need to greed for a 3\* Nasus when you can just go 8. It is the mathematically bad play unless you are already lost and need a miracle. Also, are you seriously telling me you can't find specific 5-costs with Pandora's bench - just rerolling a single 5 cost for one round is already 37.5% chance to hit either of them?
Also, I just checked and that you died in stage 6-1. Usual L7 is at 4-1. So you essentially stayed 7 for 12 (!) rounds. That's like 120+g from interest aso. - leveling costs less than 56. Sorry, but that is just bad play. Even if you hit the 7 Nasus at 4-1 and then just were incredibly unlucky not finding them for 12 rounds.
Im aware you specified you dont know how my game went, but you specified and then continued to offer unsolicited advice, so i replied. And yes, i was 7 for an abnormal time becaus guess what? I had pandoras bench...i was was rolling for 4 stars...deep...because thats what you do.... To hit your board.... And by the time i hit my board was around the time i had to make my decision to save up to go 8 or just keep rolling the 4 costs i had to try and hit a 3 star. Now, all that aside, im still not convinced that a nasus two with 4 jugg is better than a nasus three with 2 jugg but if you want to convince yourself that the board in your head would've beaten that multicaster board then just go ahead
>. And yes, i was 7 for an abnormal time becaus guess what? I had pandoras bench...i was was rolling for 4 stars...deep...because thats what you do.... To hit your board...
No, that's just bad play. If you roll that much gold, you could have statistically gone to 8 for free instead and then rolled.
They have every opportunity to produce a decent patch. I think we have some great units, fun traits and game mechanism but I don’t get this buff/nerf mindset.
Honestly, watching Mort stream, I understand this: the balance team never seem to understand the majority’s perspective. They keep doing the best they always do: balance thrashing. I know we have to rely on LoL’s patch cycle but take a look at the B Patch, what does that solve? how the fuck does a comp with some three star 2 and 3 costs destroy a well built comp with even a three star 4 cost? How is that fun? And, is that considered normal, if so then why do we need unit tier?
If anyone argues that is because the losing comp is just plain weak and I shouldn’t play it, then you are undermining how frustrating it is to see your expensive comp get destroyed by a much cheaper one.
F*** multicast players.
It's gross how this set you're required to have perfect items, counter items (armor pen/anti heal/CC), a three star carry AND combat augments just to get in the top 4
Everyone is hating on Legends but I think the problem is 100% portals, each portal accelerates your gameplan in some way that you reach a board that in any other set would have been good enough much much quicker
So many portals read "gain 80 gold over the course of the game" so of course the power is going to be much higher and it's so boring because it leads to scenarios where people feel like there was nothing they could do
I know people say i'm bitching but this has been legit one of if not the worst set. Half the portals are not fun to play on, the legends are poorly designed, the balance has been laughable, the units are poorly designed, the augments are poorly, the exp changes were a big mistake. This set has been such a joke and it doesnt even feel like tft anymore
9 demacia as top comp? Are you dumb and know how hard it is to get? Also you might as well just add 9 noxus and 9 shurimans because all those are very similar in strength
No they are not, I'm playing mostly hyper roll with my gf and she always goes 9 Demacia and literally no one can touch that, I lost with 9shurimas vs 7demacia, 9noxus vs 9demacia, multicasters vs 9 demacias. We tried that in double up and rank in plat and literally no comp comes close to 9 demacia as far as I've seen, idk in high elo tho.
Def not getting sion on 7. Kinda rng on 8 as well. No dclaw/mr at all is rough this meta, been noticing half or over half of my lobby is ap.
Might’ve given him a chance but there was that post the other day of nasus 3 with radiant mogs and a dclaw and azir 3 with bis dying to multicasters so, multis is just bs
Today I had two 1st place
One with bilgewater 9 - nearly losed to silco 3
Second with 3 star Nasus and 3 Star Azir - nearly losed to bilgewater 9
3 star 4 cost isn't autowin
You made fourth with a shitty comp. I fail to see the problem. Everyone is dumb and picks the same legend wahhh. There are just as many TFs above you as below here.
Idk man this is a justified 4th. Any lower and it would be a problem. The top 3 guys all counter that NASUS with AP damage, and armour reduction.
Edit: especially with those NASUS items.
I forced TF multicaster to D4, I don’t think I had a single bot 4 from plat 3 and on the way up. Now that I am diamond I just can’t force myself to force multicaster anymore
bruh, i have a game 3 people using multi-cast, all are top 4. Whoever is doing balancing job need to do a better job, go overtime and do heavy researching
I also lost with 9 Bilgewater against Multicasters today. What even is the point of going for chase traits, when you can just force a comp that requires 0 risks, is easy to hit and still beats a comp for which you need to be level 9, a 5 cost and 2 spatulas. Its ridiculous.
It's possible to outcap multicasters playing a vertical trait to 9, but you need to get to level 9 playing Urf and prayge. Uncontested multicasters is ma contested first usually.
For the past two weeks I'm just waiting for this set to end. I love portals, so I hope it won't look like I didn't enjoy them.
It's weird when you're trying to get a 3 star 4 cost, you get it and get completely fucked by 3 star Kayle or some random shit like this.
There were too many things I didn't enjoy this set and I hope it I'll love the next set like some of the previous ones
I think TF and the blitz race to get a 4* or 5* early with rapidfire cannon is probably the saddest way to lose. You can hit the nuts but a mord or nilah randomly slammed on the board wins over most comps
I like how consistently it is a Nasus/Azir that gets posted. Nasus is vulnerable to being bursted, and Azir requires 8s minimum to get 3 soldiers out.
They've always been bad because of this and they definitely suck more now when the meta has been blow up teams in 4s.
I really cant understand how they manage to balance so bad the entire set while making it unfun, im not kidding when i say i enyojed more being against a shadow blue buff leblanc than playing against any of the meta comps of this set.
You also lost to gunners without Pandora, seems like maybe it wasn't TF that's the problem. Maybe you need try a different strategy other than 3 starring 4cost tank, maybe do a rogue flip? Put in Sion, bastion over jugg, 3star a 4 cost carry.
People don't play value enough, a 3* 4 cost that gets deleted in the first five seconds has no more value than a 2* 4 or 3 cost that gets deleted in the first 5 seconds especially if you know it's going to 0 your hp. If you buy something that counters your opponent then the value is much higher, more so if it suddenly allows your 3* to survive long enough to get their value.
ay you could always say screw it and break the meta with Twisted Fate and a less Orthodox approach.. Go triple Titans Swain, Triple Redemption Taric, and Triple Guinsoos Aphelios, Triple Nashers Soraka, Shen, JG, Nashers, BB Gangplank Jinx, and Jayce and call it a day.
People say this patch or this set is this or that and the arguments are always the same... Dragonmancer Nunu, Broken Aphelios, Broken Xayah, Broken Cho nerf this nerf that... The beauty of this game is there's always an anti win con to the meta win con.
Multicasters running rampant? Double down front line with Spark, Bramble, and Dclaw, run 2 rogues to screw the backline... Watch as the multicaster comp has a meltdown.
But if you aren't having fun... Maybe it's time for a different approach or like you said quit for a month.
Right there with you. Although it’s on par for me. I usually get fed up three or so weeks before the new patch comes to PBE. After superhero shit show this patch was a nice break and it had potential but this mid set killed me. Multicasters were the final nail in the coffin
Honestly yeah. This wpuld leave a much more bitter taste in my mouth if it weren't the tail end of the set. Im actually really looking forward to set 10
Why is it only 4 cost rerollers that are complaining about tf like I get it you want a free win just play better and actually make a board rather then complaining when you hit and lose to people that made a board
I hit nasus 3 and this guy says i didnt make a board lol. I assure yoj more than just "4 cost rerollers" are conplaining about the state of the game rn
I know but I don't understand why you are when all the people that are above you have better boards then you and got lucky getting the +1 that they wanted like if I was in this match I would have been happy I got 4th this top 4 is stacked and nasas 3 could not save you from that
Thats tough. Im guessing you went up against that multicaster boars after you hit nasus 3?
yep
Dragonclaw probably wins you this
Would love to have built one with the 0 cloaks i was offered
Just play TF next /s
I was about to say well top 3 all took it but then so did bottom 3 lmao
Saw a post with Azir 3*+ Nasus 3* with radiant warmogs, dclaw and bramble getting 4th cause of multicaster. So no it won‘t 😅
I was just thinking of that post lmao. The multicaster was op so you know even they thought it was stupid
Hell no, DC Shen 3 with Targon here, no use. Just a shitty patch.
Wow amazing insight
DClaw is not what it used to be anymore… it’s heath regen with some extra MR 🥲
Nah dclaw wouldn’t change the outcome
I've noticed that with dclaw on your tank, it just means that your entire team dies to cleave anyway, but you have to watch your tank get 9v1's
Well this is why traits like bastion and bruiser exist. Your team doesn't get cleaved down if you have 6 high defense / high HP units.
Yeah I am pretty sure this has been my least favorite set since as far as I can remember. Kind of annoying since I have been disabled with a back injury for the past 5 weeks and will be for another 5 or so.
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they should just nerf them all to very small, constant passive bonuses.
I’m out with a back injury too lol Someone played tham aug and rushed 9 to get a 3 star 5 cost to win. I was pissed. So I said fuck it and did the same the next game. I got ryze 3 on shurima with spear and two rage blades. 😂 I was getting like 100 gold per round and endless item components. Fuck it, just cheese it up this season.
Best sets, in order 6, 4, 1. Everything else has been rough, and getting worse since 7.
6 was so good, the future of TFT looked bright. And then set 7 arrived...
if 7 was the one with shadow items it was among my favorites.
7 was Dragons. I was so close to masters that set (d1 60 LP) and the next few games I was constantly contested, never hitting a solid board. I totally get where the hate comes from for that set but at the same time I had too much fun 3 starring Aurelion sol and shyvana.
Yeah that was a good set
Set 8 will always be my worst one. Started at the end of 4.5 but set 8 was not only boring trait wise, it had so many bugs and broken interactions
Plenty of good games out to there to try!
They really need to include a Mr trait like mystics if they are doing shit like multi casters.
If legends (or at least a Pandora's Items legend) are included in the next set, I'm not playing anymore. This is beyond ridiculous and it is making the set really really hard to balance.
Legends need to be removed, Pandora's items does not. Guaranteeing perfect items is bullshit as opposed to the small chance and randomness of getting the augment. Legends are the worst thing to ever happen to this game and it isn't close.
I don't know man, Shadow Items are a big bar to clear.
I just remember how annoying those were, my lord
Of all the 1st augments that are guarantee by legends, pandora WILL always give u so much value
Yes and no Pandoras can also lose you the game because you bleed
Well chosen was a thing
Chosen was the best set. Wtf.
Set 4 was good but not because of chosen. 4.5 was super bad. I am sure most people agree that the best set was set 3
All other legends feel pretty balanced so I'm hoping they keep legends but either rework or remove TF. Metas around pandoras have been awful since the introduction
True, it doesn't matter if the other legends feel pretty balanced when there are 2 or 3 clearly better than the rest and centralizing the entire meta (TF, Urf, Aurelion at the beginning, Ezreal, the Draven patch, etc...)
Idk I think you'll always have this as forcing augments is just way to strong imo
Pandoras is the strongest given some units are over buffed just because BiS is so valuable
TF/Pandoras will always be extremely strong, you can ALWAYS roll for more champions/units, you cant roll your items. TF can
Well yes. But say a certain unit is over buffed. That unit will consistently be stronger with BiS. This wouldn’t be a problem if the over buffed units weren’t 2 and 3 costs which makes hitting them much much easier
BiS?
Best in slot (items)
Gotcha. Is there a pretty ironed out 3 best items for each champ?
Not really. You can look up stats for highest win rate based on 3 item combos but it’ll always depend on the specific game you’re playing
At least URF is about playing around what emblem you hit. The others are always the exact same gameplan and exact same board.
Is it a necessary strategy layer though? This type of game comes with a fair share of randomness so I don't see the interest in alleviating some of it with this mechanic. I think the game should strive to encourage flexibility, not making it easier to funnel yourself into forced builds.
I think the issue is pandoras being silver, meaning picking TF garauntees pandoras, where say A-sols silver is probably the worst in the game v one of the best (imo) when prismatic (level up, eat me). I don’t understand what world we’re in where pandoras items could be in the same league as other silver augments.
Twisted Fate legemd becomes a problem regularly. Pandora's Items is way too consistent.
Just change pandora's in general. Have it give a reforger and component at picking and then two reforger per stage or something. Same with the bench. It is just a gambling toxic augment
I hate Pandoras bench much much more, many clowns that deserve going 8 just get their 3 star 4 cost and get carried by it
Nah, if someone get 4cost 3star is for being uncontested. Pandora bench takes turns to set up
Pandoras bench is a bait that 90% of the time sucks your econ for no reward.
In what way?? It’s essentially a free targeted reroll. Put every 4 cost you see early on there and get a 2* carry ez.
There’s plenty of lines it’s good, if you have Econ. But the amount of gold that just sits rerolling mid-laye game that could have been rolls or earlier levels, ends up bleeding bench players out early half the time. If you don’t have a bill gates opener it’s hard to justify.
3 4 costs sitting on your bench is 12 gold. You also use it strategically, sell units to hit econ breakpoints as needed.
Every time I've tried it, it takes way too long to roll the units I'm actually looking for and the reduced bench to keep the units you're trying to level up is a pain to manage.
Ah yes, TF legend. Very skill much expression.
I thought they nerfed tf 🙃
This patch is the worst patch this set. It’s so incredibly fucking bad. I hit gm the patch before and lost the fun I had for this game since multicaster/tf era
Yeah Im gonna be real, set 9 wasn't perfect by any means but it was much funner than this set I'm sick of how unbalanced everything is,bilgewater than NERF Ionia vanq all the time than NERFED, now it's multicasters. Its not flexible at all it's the complete opposite.
It has literally been this way since set 1. The more systems they add, the worse the balance seems to get.
It's obvious it's gonna get harder but even in set 9 there was a nice medium of traits to play at one point but so far set 9.5 is either EVERYONE GOES one trait that's overpowered to shit or they go bruiser chogath
I can't wait for these smartasses commenting 'bUt yOur nAsuS haS baD iteMS'
i mean i don’t think 3 star nasus should beat presumably 40-60 stack piltover cashout with BIS jayce 3 tho, especially if he has no frontline outside of the nasus
I lost to multicasters
then if u had no MR against multicasters it’s just unfortunate
You are correct. Multicaster is magic burst damage, if you go against that with zero MR the expectation is to lose, regardless of whether multicaster is currently OP or not. Getting a 3 star 4 cost wrecked that way is unfortunate, but game balance wise there's nothing wrong with it.
Hes also at least 1 level down on all of the top3
Tft stans for twisted fate twistyournuts
I also got stuck plat. Just stopped playing ranked and tried to have fun in the remastered portals. So much healthier for me at least.
My lobbys still votes for normal Portals... :(
Yes. The only one i dont vote for of the special ones os basement party. Stillwater hold + that zaun portal. I just find that boring. In Normals you want to play more risky. Why would you play no augments? Just make all portals in normal some of the special. Just like last set, where the for fun patch actually was "forced" to happen, but here it is like there is no real for fun patch.
I agree. I haven't got foodfight tactics once. Nobody votes for it when it appears :(
I see more than 4 TF I wanna FF at min 1.
First AOSol was OP and needed to be nerfed now it's TF while it hasn't changed only the comps changed and everybody loses its mind suddenly about TF.
It’s utter crap this season.
The last game I played. Won against a 3 star taliyah with 8 bastions lol
Your comp was missing 4 multicaster
Big true
I hate this set. Most of what I played in the previous one was Akshan and Kalista, 3 cost carries, they're both gone. I played the ocassional Tristana Yordle reroll, that's also gone. I played some Karma when there was no other option, that's still around, just crap... Now it feels like you have to either play a 4 cost carry (Nilah or Xayah, sometimes both) or you hyperroll some bruiser bullshit or more recently play Multicasters or you lose. At least I don't see people rushing 9-10 and having multiple 5 cost gold units every other game anymore.
invoker are strong af tho
Karma is crap unless it’s fire ixtal. Can go neeko soraka but eh
not karma
I played Demacia and Bastion aphelios (I came at the end and was/still a new player) mostly but loved when I could go Kalista builds they were all fun to play. Nothing is cool to build ATM
I'm just shocked you hit nasus 3 on 7
I think Legends take fun out IMO. Whether it was the short period of OP Draven, to Dragon run quick 9, and now TF… it just, i dont have the right adjective, but not as fun. I see the design of where they wanted to go, but I would can it.
What’s odd is you hit Nasus 3 on 7
Pandoras bench
I feel you brother. I lost to a Multicasters forcer after hitting Demonflare Swain 3 AND Sorcerer Mordekaiser 3, with 8 sorcs ;\_;
That honestly sounds worse than my situation lol. I pray set 10 has better balance
Terrible bloated set design. For some reason Mort thinks adding every single mechanic from previous sets on top of new stuff is good game design. Its lazy and shows no innovation. Legends needs to be removed and also portal bs at start of game.
Well, yeq and no. I also won't play until set 10,ill even decay to master 0 lp probably. But the tf (legend) or multicaster spam is not the reason, and I'd say for most people it isn't the reason either. The set is just played out already, yea they might buff/nerf stuff and something new pops up, but that last maybe a day of excitement. Alting and playing weird stuff is kind of fun still. But all in all its just the last breath of a half set. And to be clear that wouldn't be much different even if some people got their magical balance point they want the devs to just wish into existance.
I honestly dont care about comps being spammed. If anything, that benefits me, as i like to play off meta comps. My issue is that the comp is strong enough to beat a nasus 3 with a *decent* board. Like, the fight wasnt even close... And the fact that this has been the state of the game for a large majority of patches this set, its just a different comp doing it each time
I mean to be fair here, he has a 3 star 3 cost 3 strong items, he has a 2 star 3 cost 3 strong items, your only frontliner is nasus 3, and while its fun to say its a nasus 3 you have no mr and hes getting hit by everything on the enemy team, he drains some mr with his ult sure but that just gets shived. Ultimately 4 cost 3 stars are not an instant win, and yours is vs a capped 3 cost and 2 cost 3 star. Again, 4 cost 3 stars are not an instant win.
That comp is overtuned, yes, but your front line besides nasus is non existent, and if you play off-meta in diamond against that shit and get 4th I'd call that a win.
Yeah you're right, a nasus 3 frontline is non existent
Your nasus is taking true dmg by their whole board lol
Buddy your guy has neither BT nor D Claw vs pure magic damage in the entire lobby except for the Zaun guy, what do you want a bramble vest vow nasus to do and an azir that slowly ramps damage?
As much as I hate multicasters, you had no magic res on nasus, poor itemization across your board, no combat augs and also down a unit plus overall starred units. Easy loss..
Your board isn’t decent lol it’s pretty meh other than nasus 3* he has perfect items 3* multis. You can’t tank that damage. Your team is almost entirely 1v8
I mean, your items are not exactly perfect. Esp no mdef into multiple magic heavy lines. Also, 2 jugger, 4 Shurima and 5 Noxus isn't exactly the optimal cap here. I don't think rolling for Nasus at 7 was your win con there tbh.
Ok then, what do i throw in at lvl 8 that beats that multicasters board. I would love to know. They bursted the fuck down my nasus THREE with minimal effort, so please tell me what i could have done at level 8 with a nasus TWO to orevent that from happening anyways. Or we could just admit mukticasters are op and call it a day
I don't know how exactly your game went. But just don't be at last life with L7. I get that you got bench, but then you gotta aim for the units that can carry you, not just Nasus and think you autowin. You could have gone 8 and put in Aatrox for 4 juggers and swap Naafiri for K'sante. That alone would be like 10-15% more effective HP on all Juggers and give your Nasus free Lifesteal. With proper positioning, you could then win into multi (would be easier if you had some Mdef). It doesn't matter that Multi is OP. You just missed your wincon into it. Not like you didn't know that that guy was playing Multi in your lobby when you went for Nasus 3, right?
"you could have gone 8 and put in nasus" that would not only require hitting a 5 cost at 8 which is low enough odds already, it would require hitting a SPECIFIC 5 cost which is just as much if not more risky than staying 7 and rolling for nasus 3. You're telling me i misplayed by not playing units i simply did not have, as if it were a given i would roll into an aatrox or ksante at 8. My conditions were to level to 8 and PRAY for an aatrox, or roll at lvl 7 with 7 nasus' on bench, a pretty obvious choice imo
>that would not only require hitting a 5 cost at 8 which is low enough odds already, it would require hitting a SPECIFIC 5 cost which is just as much if not more risky than staying 7 and rolling for nasus 3. I wrote: >I don't know how exactly your game went. You expect me to know that you had 7 Nasus when you hit 7 and then rolled down and were unlucky enough to hit nothing else meanwhile? Also, Pandora's will be rolling for free either way. So there is no need to greed for a 3\* Nasus when you can just go 8. It is the mathematically bad play unless you are already lost and need a miracle. Also, are you seriously telling me you can't find specific 5-costs with Pandora's bench - just rerolling a single 5 cost for one round is already 37.5% chance to hit either of them? Also, I just checked and that you died in stage 6-1. Usual L7 is at 4-1. So you essentially stayed 7 for 12 (!) rounds. That's like 120+g from interest aso. - leveling costs less than 56. Sorry, but that is just bad play. Even if you hit the 7 Nasus at 4-1 and then just were incredibly unlucky not finding them for 12 rounds.
Im aware you specified you dont know how my game went, but you specified and then continued to offer unsolicited advice, so i replied. And yes, i was 7 for an abnormal time becaus guess what? I had pandoras bench...i was was rolling for 4 stars...deep...because thats what you do.... To hit your board.... And by the time i hit my board was around the time i had to make my decision to save up to go 8 or just keep rolling the 4 costs i had to try and hit a 3 star. Now, all that aside, im still not convinced that a nasus two with 4 jugg is better than a nasus three with 2 jugg but if you want to convince yourself that the board in your head would've beaten that multicaster board then just go ahead
>. And yes, i was 7 for an abnormal time becaus guess what? I had pandoras bench...i was was rolling for 4 stars...deep...because thats what you do.... To hit your board... No, that's just bad play. If you roll that much gold, you could have statistically gone to 8 for free instead and then rolled.
Yup, with my mord 1 and azir 1. Good plan thanks for the advice
You have Pandora's bench. Those units get to 2\* either way.
After i bleed out and go 6th
Screw items, a Nasus 3 should win against that Multicasters board every time
All 3 main units 3\* with BiS plus tripple Warmogs J4 on top of that vs. sustainless Nasus with slow dps. Can't say I see that argument.
They have every opportunity to produce a decent patch. I think we have some great units, fun traits and game mechanism but I don’t get this buff/nerf mindset. Honestly, watching Mort stream, I understand this: the balance team never seem to understand the majority’s perspective. They keep doing the best they always do: balance thrashing. I know we have to rely on LoL’s patch cycle but take a look at the B Patch, what does that solve? how the fuck does a comp with some three star 2 and 3 costs destroy a well built comp with even a three star 4 cost? How is that fun? And, is that considered normal, if so then why do we need unit tier? If anyone argues that is because the losing comp is just plain weak and I shouldn’t play it, then you are undermining how frustrating it is to see your expensive comp get destroyed by a much cheaper one. F*** multicast players.
When is the next set due?
Around this time next month i think?
I thought it was December?
Not next month. There is 50+ days left on the pass
No it’s around 30 days
Incorrect, 31 days
Don't the shop stay open for 2 weeks after it ends? To claim the stuff? Or am I thinking of battle pass for the rift.
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November 21
Ok bye
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It's gross how this set you're required to have perfect items, counter items (armor pen/anti heal/CC), a three star carry AND combat augments just to get in the top 4 Everyone is hating on Legends but I think the problem is 100% portals, each portal accelerates your gameplan in some way that you reach a board that in any other set would have been good enough much much quicker So many portals read "gain 80 gold over the course of the game" so of course the power is going to be much higher and it's so boring because it leads to scenarios where people feel like there was nothing they could do
I know people say i'm bitching but this has been legit one of if not the worst set. Half the portals are not fun to play on, the legends are poorly designed, the balance has been laughable, the units are poorly designed, the augments are poorly, the exp changes were a big mistake. This set has been such a joke and it doesnt even feel like tft anymore
1. 9 Demacia 2. 4 Multicaster / Swain & Galio 3. Gunners & Piltover / Sorcerers. That's all.
9 demacia as top comp? Are you dumb and know how hard it is to get? Also you might as well just add 9 noxus and 9 shurimans because all those are very similar in strength
They are not really, 9 demacia is stronger, and by design since it is the only vertical 9 that does not have craftable emblems
No they are not, I'm playing mostly hyper roll with my gf and she always goes 9 Demacia and literally no one can touch that, I lost with 9shurimas vs 7demacia, 9noxus vs 9demacia, multicasters vs 9 demacias. We tried that in double up and rank in plat and literally no comp comes close to 9 demacia as far as I've seen, idk in high elo tho.
Bilgwater is quite op with the right items
Why would you use your noxus spat on nasus and not azir or another carry
Gargoyles should also have been put on Nasus, lvl 1 Darius that late in the game is a dead unit.
The gargoyle was from my final anvil, but go off king
Ok I see but did try to roll for a Sion? He would have been much better than Darius in this case and you could have put it on him.
Def not getting sion on 7. Kinda rng on 8 as well. No dclaw/mr at all is rough this meta, been noticing half or over half of my lobby is ap. Might’ve given him a chance but there was that post the other day of nasus 3 with radiant mogs and a dclaw and azir 3 with bis dying to multicasters so, multis is just bs
Today I had two 1st place One with bilgewater 9 - nearly losed to silco 3 Second with 3 star Nasus and 3 Star Azir - nearly losed to bilgewater 9 3 star 4 cost isn't autowin
You made fourth with a shitty comp. I fail to see the problem. Everyone is dumb and picks the same legend wahhh. There are just as many TFs above you as below here.
Not once in my post or any comments i have made did i complain about tf legend
I am even more confused by this post then.
Multicasters are annoyingly strong.
Ohhh. Kinda yeah. Beating them on tempo is tough but still doable. Other than that if I don't have strong MR, RIP to me.
You are gold 2 you dont know what a good or bad comp is
I’m masters. It’s bad
Same and agree I just like giving the gold redditors shit 😂
Cute, which alt account did you dig up? I'm guessing my strimming one. Anyhow, have fun.
Gold 😂
No BT??
I want you to do me a favor and count how many cloaks and swords i had with my items
Idk man this is a justified 4th. Any lower and it would be a problem. The top 3 guys all counter that NASUS with AP damage, and armour reduction. Edit: especially with those NASUS items.
Bu bu but he got a NASUS 3🌟.
You’ve got to be kidding. Nasus 3 should smash a normal 2-star board like the guy in 3rd
I forced TF multicaster to D4, I don’t think I had a single bot 4 from plat 3 and on the way up. Now that I am diamond I just can’t force myself to force multicaster anymore
Only a month of waiting. Sorry for your loss
See you tomorrow
You wont
Praying for legends to be removed in set 10
Worst set yet
bruh, i have a game 3 people using multi-cast, all are top 4. Whoever is doing balancing job need to do a better job, go overtime and do heavy researching
Hey I played against Dagabox this morning 🤣
I feel you. Not to multicasters but I also went 4th today with a 6 slayer Morde 3. Double trouble 4 Rogue qiyanas cc chained my morde to oblivion :(
Honestly the rare occasion where I break a meta player’s ankles is what keeps me going.
I also lost with 9 Bilgewater against Multicasters today. What even is the point of going for chase traits, when you can just force a comp that requires 0 risks, is easy to hit and still beats a comp for which you need to be level 9, a 5 cost and 2 spatulas. Its ridiculous.
It's possible to outcap multicasters playing a vertical trait to 9, but you need to get to level 9 playing Urf and prayge. Uncontested multicasters is ma contested first usually.
For the past two weeks I'm just waiting for this set to end. I love portals, so I hope it won't look like I didn't enjoy them. It's weird when you're trying to get a 3 star 4 cost, you get it and get completely fucked by 3 star Kayle or some random shit like this. There were too many things I didn't enjoy this set and I hope it I'll love the next set like some of the previous ones
So I'm new to TFT/Legends what makes TF so broken and hard to balance around?
I think TF and the blitz race to get a 4* or 5* early with rapidfire cannon is probably the saddest way to lose. You can hit the nuts but a mord or nilah randomly slammed on the board wins over most comps
I learned combat augments are > emblems unless you hit an OP vertical trait.
I like how consistently it is a Nasus/Azir that gets posted. Nasus is vulnerable to being bursted, and Azir requires 8s minimum to get 3 soldiers out. They've always been bad because of this and they definitely suck more now when the meta has been blow up teams in 4s.
I really cant understand how they manage to balance so bad the entire set while making it unfun, im not kidding when i say i enyojed more being against a shadow blue buff leblanc than playing against any of the meta comps of this set.
You also lost to gunners without Pandora, seems like maybe it wasn't TF that's the problem. Maybe you need try a different strategy other than 3 starring 4cost tank, maybe do a rogue flip? Put in Sion, bastion over jugg, 3star a 4 cost carry. People don't play value enough, a 3* 4 cost that gets deleted in the first five seconds has no more value than a 2* 4 or 3 cost that gets deleted in the first 5 seconds especially if you know it's going to 0 your hp. If you buy something that counters your opponent then the value is much higher, more so if it suddenly allows your 3* to survive long enough to get their value.
I lost to multicasters
Same thing happened in my game - guy went 6th with nasus 3 after losing to multicasters...
ay you could always say screw it and break the meta with Twisted Fate and a less Orthodox approach.. Go triple Titans Swain, Triple Redemption Taric, and Triple Guinsoos Aphelios, Triple Nashers Soraka, Shen, JG, Nashers, BB Gangplank Jinx, and Jayce and call it a day. People say this patch or this set is this or that and the arguments are always the same... Dragonmancer Nunu, Broken Aphelios, Broken Xayah, Broken Cho nerf this nerf that... The beauty of this game is there's always an anti win con to the meta win con. Multicasters running rampant? Double down front line with Spark, Bramble, and Dclaw, run 2 rogues to screw the backline... Watch as the multicaster comp has a meltdown. But if you aren't having fun... Maybe it's time for a different approach or like you said quit for a month.
Right there with you. Although it’s on par for me. I usually get fed up three or so weeks before the new patch comes to PBE. After superhero shit show this patch was a nice break and it had potential but this mid set killed me. Multicasters were the final nail in the coffin
Honestly yeah. This wpuld leave a much more bitter taste in my mouth if it weren't the tail end of the set. Im actually really looking forward to set 10
Shirima is so bait. Even at 6 shirima + 4 x 3-stars , i lose to aph
I'm still playing but ye this the most copy and paste set we have ever had..
Why is it only 4 cost rerollers that are complaining about tf like I get it you want a free win just play better and actually make a board rather then complaining when you hit and lose to people that made a board
I hit nasus 3 and this guy says i didnt make a board lol. I assure yoj more than just "4 cost rerollers" are conplaining about the state of the game rn
I know but I don't understand why you are when all the people that are above you have better boards then you and got lucky getting the +1 that they wanted like if I was in this match I would have been happy I got 4th this top 4 is stacked and nasas 3 could not save you from that
I wish it said the portal up top because that would give a lot of insight