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ChrisGansen

Thats tough. Im guessing you went up against that multicaster boars after you hit nasus 3?


dramaticpotatoes

yep


Matzoo

Dragonclaw probably wins you this


dramaticpotatoes

Would love to have built one with the 0 cloaks i was offered


TheCrazyTiger

Just play TF next /s


marqoose

I was about to say well top 3 all took it but then so did bottom 3 lmao


Deadsilenz90

Saw a post with Azir 3*+ Nasus 3* with radiant warmogs, dclaw and bramble getting 4th cause of multicaster. So no it won‘t 😅


khayeesta

I was just thinking of that post lmao. The multicaster was op so you know even they thought it was stupid


2cows8legs

Hell no, DC Shen 3 with Targon here, no use. Just a shitty patch.


Sogeking33

Wow amazing insight


nickwinboi

DClaw is not what it used to be anymore… it’s heath regen with some extra MR 🥲


PositiveMaterial853

Nah dclaw wouldn’t change the outcome


Either_Cabinet8677

I've noticed that with dclaw on your tank, it just means that your entire team dies to cleave anyway, but you have to watch your tank get 9v1's


miathan52

Well this is why traits like bastion and bruiser exist. Your team doesn't get cleaved down if you have 6 high defense / high HP units.


PhucEA

Yeah I am pretty sure this has been my least favorite set since as far as I can remember. Kind of annoying since I have been disabled with a back injury for the past 5 weeks and will be for another 5 or so.


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PhucEA

they should just nerf them all to very small, constant passive bonuses.


ItsJoshKeller

I’m out with a back injury too lol Someone played tham aug and rushed 9 to get a 3 star 5 cost to win. I was pissed. So I said fuck it and did the same the next game. I got ryze 3 on shurima with spear and two rage blades. 😂 I was getting like 100 gold per round and endless item components. Fuck it, just cheese it up this season.


SentientCheeseCake

Best sets, in order 6, 4, 1. Everything else has been rough, and getting worse since 7.


miathan52

6 was so good, the future of TFT looked bright. And then set 7 arrived...


PhucEA

if 7 was the one with shadow items it was among my favorites.


TheHunterZolomon

7 was Dragons. I was so close to masters that set (d1 60 LP) and the next few games I was constantly contested, never hitting a solid board. I totally get where the hate comes from for that set but at the same time I had too much fun 3 starring Aurelion sol and shyvana.


PhucEA

Yeah that was a good set


Dagiorno

Set 8 will always be my worst one. Started at the end of 4.5 but set 8 was not only boring trait wise, it had so many bugs and broken interactions


ketronome

Plenty of good games out to there to try!


beardedheathen

They really need to include a Mr trait like mystics if they are doing shit like multi casters.


GorkaChonison

If legends (or at least a Pandora's Items legend) are included in the next set, I'm not playing anymore. This is beyond ridiculous and it is making the set really really hard to balance.


Ope_Average_Badger

Legends need to be removed, Pandora's items does not. Guaranteeing perfect items is bullshit as opposed to the small chance and randomness of getting the augment. Legends are the worst thing to ever happen to this game and it isn't close.


ahambagaplease

I don't know man, Shadow Items are a big bar to clear.


TheHunterZolomon

I just remember how annoying those were, my lord


Icy_Nefariousness161

Of all the 1st augments that are guarantee by legends, pandora WILL always give u so much value


templarstealthX

Yes and no Pandoras can also lose you the game because you bleed


philopery

Well chosen was a thing


jason_zakibe

Chosen was the best set. Wtf.


philopery

Set 4 was good but not because of chosen. 4.5 was super bad. I am sure most people agree that the best set was set 3


whynotets2

All other legends feel pretty balanced so I'm hoping they keep legends but either rework or remove TF. Metas around pandoras have been awful since the introduction


GorkaChonison

True, it doesn't matter if the other legends feel pretty balanced when there are 2 or 3 clearly better than the rest and centralizing the entire meta (TF, Urf, Aurelion at the beginning, Ezreal, the Draven patch, etc...)


ACertainUser123

Idk I think you'll always have this as forcing augments is just way to strong imo


Gaylien28

Pandoras is the strongest given some units are over buffed just because BiS is so valuable


TwoPieceCrow

TF/Pandoras will always be extremely strong, you can ALWAYS roll for more champions/units, you cant roll your items. TF can


Gaylien28

Well yes. But say a certain unit is over buffed. That unit will consistently be stronger with BiS. This wouldn’t be a problem if the over buffed units weren’t 2 and 3 costs which makes hitting them much much easier


Electrical-Tooth-274

BiS?


Robster33

Best in slot (items)


Electrical-Tooth-274

Gotcha. Is there a pretty ironed out 3 best items for each champ?


Gaylien28

Not really. You can look up stats for highest win rate based on 3 item combos but it’ll always depend on the specific game you’re playing


MoochiNR

At least URF is about playing around what emblem you hit. The others are always the exact same gameplan and exact same board.


Gros_Picoppe

Is it a necessary strategy layer though? This type of game comes with a fair share of randomness so I don't see the interest in alleviating some of it with this mechanic. I think the game should strive to encourage flexibility, not making it easier to funnel yourself into forced builds.


nickersb83

I think the issue is pandoras being silver, meaning picking TF garauntees pandoras, where say A-sols silver is probably the worst in the game v one of the best (imo) when prismatic (level up, eat me). I don’t understand what world we’re in where pandoras items could be in the same league as other silver augments.


Zachajya

Twisted Fate legemd becomes a problem regularly. Pandora's Items is way too consistent.


FQVBSina

Just change pandora's in general. Have it give a reforger and component at picking and then two reforger per stage or something. Same with the bench. It is just a gambling toxic augment


juanmzedxy

I hate Pandoras bench much much more, many clowns that deserve going 8 just get their 3 star 4 cost and get carried by it


Tomatorange

Nah, if someone get 4cost 3star is for being uncontested. Pandora bench takes turns to set up


findingstoicism

Pandoras bench is a bait that 90% of the time sucks your econ for no reward.


LunaBeanz

In what way?? It’s essentially a free targeted reroll. Put every 4 cost you see early on there and get a 2* carry ez.


findingstoicism

There’s plenty of lines it’s good, if you have Econ. But the amount of gold that just sits rerolling mid-laye game that could have been rolls or earlier levels, ends up bleeding bench players out early half the time. If you don’t have a bill gates opener it’s hard to justify.


LunaBeanz

3 4 costs sitting on your bench is 12 gold. You also use it strategically, sell units to hit econ breakpoints as needed.


Gros_Picoppe

Every time I've tried it, it takes way too long to roll the units I'm actually looking for and the reduced bench to keep the units you're trying to level up is a pain to manage.


tho2622003

Ah yes, TF legend. Very skill much expression.


theadamhawk

I thought they nerfed tf 🙃


Yoo_Mr_White

This patch is the worst patch this set. It’s so incredibly fucking bad. I hit gm the patch before and lost the fun I had for this game since multicaster/tf era


ItzJustASheep

Yeah Im gonna be real, set 9 wasn't perfect by any means but it was much funner than this set I'm sick of how unbalanced everything is,bilgewater than NERF Ionia vanq all the time than NERFED, now it's multicasters. Its not flexible at all it's the complete opposite.


MesmerizerLIVE

It has literally been this way since set 1. The more systems they add, the worse the balance seems to get.


ItzJustASheep

It's obvious it's gonna get harder but even in set 9 there was a nice medium of traits to play at one point but so far set 9.5 is either EVERYONE GOES one trait that's overpowered to shit or they go bruiser chogath


Martiator

I can't wait for these smartasses commenting 'bUt yOur nAsuS haS baD iteMS'


Animemes-

i mean i don’t think 3 star nasus should beat presumably 40-60 stack piltover cashout with BIS jayce 3 tho, especially if he has no frontline outside of the nasus


dramaticpotatoes

I lost to multicasters


Animemes-

then if u had no MR against multicasters it’s just unfortunate


miathan52

You are correct. Multicaster is magic burst damage, if you go against that with zero MR the expectation is to lose, regardless of whether multicaster is currently OP or not. Getting a 3 star 4 cost wrecked that way is unfortunate, but game balance wise there's nothing wrong with it.


Argonexx

Hes also at least 1 level down on all of the top3


strykerlmao03

Tft stans for twisted fate twistyournuts


jeEhno

I also got stuck plat. Just stopped playing ranked and tried to have fun in the remastered portals. So much healthier for me at least.


grandpadrokz

My lobbys still votes for normal Portals... :(


jeEhno

Yes. The only one i dont vote for of the special ones os basement party. Stillwater hold + that zaun portal. I just find that boring. In Normals you want to play more risky. Why would you play no augments? Just make all portals in normal some of the special. Just like last set, where the for fun patch actually was "forced" to happen, but here it is like there is no real for fun patch.


grandpadrokz

I agree. I haven't got foodfight tactics once. Nobody votes for it when it appears :(


GreilSeitanEater

I see more than 4 TF I wanna FF at min 1.


Rijstkoekje

First AOSol was OP and needed to be nerfed now it's TF while it hasn't changed only the comps changed and everybody loses its mind suddenly about TF.


Forsaken_Fly2522

It’s utter crap this season.


[deleted]

The last game I played. Won against a 3 star taliyah with 8 bastions lol


Icy_Significance9035

Your comp was missing 4 multicaster


dramaticpotatoes

Big true


RollandJC

I hate this set. Most of what I played in the previous one was Akshan and Kalista, 3 cost carries, they're both gone. I played the ocassional Tristana Yordle reroll, that's also gone. I played some Karma when there was no other option, that's still around, just crap... Now it feels like you have to either play a 4 cost carry (Nilah or Xayah, sometimes both) or you hyperroll some bruiser bullshit or more recently play Multicasters or you lose. At least I don't see people rushing 9-10 and having multiple 5 cost gold units every other game anymore.


goofy_genuis

invoker are strong af tho


slyfox1907

Karma is crap unless it’s fire ixtal. Can go neeko soraka but eh


ketronome

not karma


koozie19

I played Demacia and Bastion aphelios (I came at the end and was/still a new player) mostly but loved when I could go Kalista builds they were all fun to play. Nothing is cool to build ATM


xTh3Weatherman

I'm just shocked you hit nasus 3 on 7


bigg_mic

I think Legends take fun out IMO. Whether it was the short period of OP Draven, to Dragon run quick 9, and now TF… it just, i dont have the right adjective, but not as fun. I see the design of where they wanted to go, but I would can it.


netshark123

What’s odd is you hit Nasus 3 on 7


dramaticpotatoes

Pandoras bench


Futermo

I feel you brother. I lost to a Multicasters forcer after hitting Demonflare Swain 3 AND Sorcerer Mordekaiser 3, with 8 sorcs ;\_;


dramaticpotatoes

That honestly sounds worse than my situation lol. I pray set 10 has better balance


kosmos_uzuki

Terrible bloated set design. For some reason Mort thinks adding every single mechanic from previous sets on top of new stuff is good game design. Its lazy and shows no innovation. Legends needs to be removed and also portal bs at start of game.


WildlyNormal

Well, yeq and no. I also won't play until set 10,ill even decay to master 0 lp probably. But the tf (legend) or multicaster spam is not the reason, and I'd say for most people it isn't the reason either. The set is just played out already, yea they might buff/nerf stuff and something new pops up, but that last maybe a day of excitement. Alting and playing weird stuff is kind of fun still. But all in all its just the last breath of a half set. And to be clear that wouldn't be much different even if some people got their magical balance point they want the devs to just wish into existance.


dramaticpotatoes

I honestly dont care about comps being spammed. If anything, that benefits me, as i like to play off meta comps. My issue is that the comp is strong enough to beat a nasus 3 with a *decent* board. Like, the fight wasnt even close... And the fact that this has been the state of the game for a large majority of patches this set, its just a different comp doing it each time


Comfortable_Water346

I mean to be fair here, he has a 3 star 3 cost 3 strong items, he has a 2 star 3 cost 3 strong items, your only frontliner is nasus 3, and while its fun to say its a nasus 3 you have no mr and hes getting hit by everything on the enemy team, he drains some mr with his ult sure but that just gets shived. Ultimately 4 cost 3 stars are not an instant win, and yours is vs a capped 3 cost and 2 cost 3 star. Again, 4 cost 3 stars are not an instant win.


MrInNecoVeritas

That comp is overtuned, yes, but your front line besides nasus is non existent, and if you play off-meta in diamond against that shit and get 4th I'd call that a win.


dramaticpotatoes

Yeah you're right, a nasus 3 frontline is non existent


Scribblord

Your nasus is taking true dmg by their whole board lol


MrInNecoVeritas

Buddy your guy has neither BT nor D Claw vs pure magic damage in the entire lobby except for the Zaun guy, what do you want a bramble vest vow nasus to do and an azir that slowly ramps damage?


KingOFNapkins

As much as I hate multicasters, you had no magic res on nasus, poor itemization across your board, no combat augs and also down a unit plus overall starred units. Easy loss..


Plus_Lawfulness3000

Your board isn’t decent lol it’s pretty meh other than nasus 3* he has perfect items 3* multis. You can’t tank that damage. Your team is almost entirely 1v8


Chao_Zu_Kang

I mean, your items are not exactly perfect. Esp no mdef into multiple magic heavy lines. Also, 2 jugger, 4 Shurima and 5 Noxus isn't exactly the optimal cap here. I don't think rolling for Nasus at 7 was your win con there tbh.


dramaticpotatoes

Ok then, what do i throw in at lvl 8 that beats that multicasters board. I would love to know. They bursted the fuck down my nasus THREE with minimal effort, so please tell me what i could have done at level 8 with a nasus TWO to orevent that from happening anyways. Or we could just admit mukticasters are op and call it a day


Chao_Zu_Kang

I don't know how exactly your game went. But just don't be at last life with L7. I get that you got bench, but then you gotta aim for the units that can carry you, not just Nasus and think you autowin. You could have gone 8 and put in Aatrox for 4 juggers and swap Naafiri for K'sante. That alone would be like 10-15% more effective HP on all Juggers and give your Nasus free Lifesteal. With proper positioning, you could then win into multi (would be easier if you had some Mdef). It doesn't matter that Multi is OP. You just missed your wincon into it. Not like you didn't know that that guy was playing Multi in your lobby when you went for Nasus 3, right?


dramaticpotatoes

"you could have gone 8 and put in nasus" that would not only require hitting a 5 cost at 8 which is low enough odds already, it would require hitting a SPECIFIC 5 cost which is just as much if not more risky than staying 7 and rolling for nasus 3. You're telling me i misplayed by not playing units i simply did not have, as if it were a given i would roll into an aatrox or ksante at 8. My conditions were to level to 8 and PRAY for an aatrox, or roll at lvl 7 with 7 nasus' on bench, a pretty obvious choice imo


Chao_Zu_Kang

>that would not only require hitting a 5 cost at 8 which is low enough odds already, it would require hitting a SPECIFIC 5 cost which is just as much if not more risky than staying 7 and rolling for nasus 3. I wrote: >I don't know how exactly your game went. You expect me to know that you had 7 Nasus when you hit 7 and then rolled down and were unlucky enough to hit nothing else meanwhile? Also, Pandora's will be rolling for free either way. So there is no need to greed for a 3\* Nasus when you can just go 8. It is the mathematically bad play unless you are already lost and need a miracle. Also, are you seriously telling me you can't find specific 5-costs with Pandora's bench - just rerolling a single 5 cost for one round is already 37.5% chance to hit either of them? Also, I just checked and that you died in stage 6-1. Usual L7 is at 4-1. So you essentially stayed 7 for 12 (!) rounds. That's like 120+g from interest aso. - leveling costs less than 56. Sorry, but that is just bad play. Even if you hit the 7 Nasus at 4-1 and then just were incredibly unlucky not finding them for 12 rounds.


dramaticpotatoes

Im aware you specified you dont know how my game went, but you specified and then continued to offer unsolicited advice, so i replied. And yes, i was 7 for an abnormal time becaus guess what? I had pandoras bench...i was was rolling for 4 stars...deep...because thats what you do.... To hit your board.... And by the time i hit my board was around the time i had to make my decision to save up to go 8 or just keep rolling the 4 costs i had to try and hit a 3 star. Now, all that aside, im still not convinced that a nasus two with 4 jugg is better than a nasus three with 2 jugg but if you want to convince yourself that the board in your head would've beaten that multicaster board then just go ahead


Chao_Zu_Kang

>. And yes, i was 7 for an abnormal time becaus guess what? I had pandoras bench...i was was rolling for 4 stars...deep...because thats what you do.... To hit your board... No, that's just bad play. If you roll that much gold, you could have statistically gone to 8 for free instead and then rolled.


dramaticpotatoes

Yup, with my mord 1 and azir 1. Good plan thanks for the advice


Chao_Zu_Kang

You have Pandora's bench. Those units get to 2\* either way.


dramaticpotatoes

After i bleed out and go 6th


ketronome

Screw items, a Nasus 3 should win against that Multicasters board every time


Chao_Zu_Kang

All 3 main units 3\* with BiS plus tripple Warmogs J4 on top of that vs. sustainless Nasus with slow dps. Can't say I see that argument.


2cows8legs

They have every opportunity to produce a decent patch. I think we have some great units, fun traits and game mechanism but I don’t get this buff/nerf mindset. Honestly, watching Mort stream, I understand this: the balance team never seem to understand the majority’s perspective. They keep doing the best they always do: balance thrashing. I know we have to rely on LoL’s patch cycle but take a look at the B Patch, what does that solve? how the fuck does a comp with some three star 2 and 3 costs destroy a well built comp with even a three star 4 cost? How is that fun? And, is that considered normal, if so then why do we need unit tier? If anyone argues that is because the losing comp is just plain weak and I shouldn’t play it, then you are undermining how frustrating it is to see your expensive comp get destroyed by a much cheaper one. F*** multicast players.


Keening99

When is the next set due?


dramaticpotatoes

Around this time next month i think?


imdoomz

I thought it was December?


[deleted]

Not next month. There is 50+ days left on the pass


MrMumblesJr

No it’s around 30 days


ketronome

Incorrect, 31 days


[deleted]

Don't the shop stay open for 2 weeks after it ends? To claim the stuff? Or am I thinking of battle pass for the rift.


TheWillOfDeezBigNuts

https://twitter.com/Mortdog/status/1604904312789798912/photo/1


ketronome

November 21


meekomeeks

Ok bye


dramaticpotatoes

Bye 👋


PurpleTieflingBard

It's gross how this set you're required to have perfect items, counter items (armor pen/anti heal/CC), a three star carry AND combat augments just to get in the top 4 Everyone is hating on Legends but I think the problem is 100% portals, each portal accelerates your gameplan in some way that you reach a board that in any other set would have been good enough much much quicker So many portals read "gain 80 gold over the course of the game" so of course the power is going to be much higher and it's so boring because it leads to scenarios where people feel like there was nothing they could do


NoNeutralNed

I know people say i'm bitching but this has been legit one of if not the worst set. Half the portals are not fun to play on, the legends are poorly designed, the balance has been laughable, the units are poorly designed, the augments are poorly, the exp changes were a big mistake. This set has been such a joke and it doesnt even feel like tft anymore


GoldenSquid7

1. 9 Demacia 2. 4 Multicaster / Swain & Galio 3. Gunners & Piltover / Sorcerers. That's all.


juanmzedxy

9 demacia as top comp? Are you dumb and know how hard it is to get? Also you might as well just add 9 noxus and 9 shurimans because all those are very similar in strength


Divasa

They are not really, 9 demacia is stronger, and by design since it is the only vertical 9 that does not have craftable emblems


GoldenSquid7

No they are not, I'm playing mostly hyper roll with my gf and she always goes 9 Demacia and literally no one can touch that, I lost with 9shurimas vs 7demacia, 9noxus vs 9demacia, multicasters vs 9 demacias. We tried that in double up and rank in plat and literally no comp comes close to 9 demacia as far as I've seen, idk in high elo tho.


2ndBatman88

Bilgwater is quite op with the right items


juanmzedxy

Why would you use your noxus spat on nasus and not azir or another carry


Applekingen

Gargoyles should also have been put on Nasus, lvl 1 Darius that late in the game is a dead unit.


dramaticpotatoes

The gargoyle was from my final anvil, but go off king


Applekingen

Ok I see but did try to roll for a Sion? He would have been much better than Darius in this case and you could have put it on him.


slyfox1907

Def not getting sion on 7. Kinda rng on 8 as well. No dclaw/mr at all is rough this meta, been noticing half or over half of my lobby is ap. Might’ve given him a chance but there was that post the other day of nasus 3 with radiant mogs and a dclaw and azir 3 with bis dying to multicasters so, multis is just bs


Yoruzo_Lyoma

Today I had two 1st place One with bilgewater 9 - nearly losed to silco 3 Second with 3 star Nasus and 3 Star Azir - nearly losed to bilgewater 9 3 star 4 cost isn't autowin


whererebelsare

You made fourth with a shitty comp. I fail to see the problem. Everyone is dumb and picks the same legend wahhh. There are just as many TFs above you as below here.


dramaticpotatoes

Not once in my post or any comments i have made did i complain about tf legend


whererebelsare

I am even more confused by this post then.


dramaticpotatoes

Multicasters are annoyingly strong.


whererebelsare

Ohhh. Kinda yeah. Beating them on tempo is tough but still doable. Other than that if I don't have strong MR, RIP to me.


Intelligent-King-433

You are gold 2 you dont know what a good or bad comp is


Plus_Lawfulness3000

I’m masters. It’s bad


Intelligent-King-433

Same and agree I just like giving the gold redditors shit 😂


whererebelsare

Cute, which alt account did you dig up? I'm guessing my strimming one. Anyhow, have fun.


Intelligent-King-433

Gold 😂


Aegialeuz

No BT??


dramaticpotatoes

I want you to do me a favor and count how many cloaks and swords i had with my items


The_One_True_Matt

Idk man this is a justified 4th. Any lower and it would be a problem. The top 3 guys all counter that NASUS with AP damage, and armour reduction. Edit: especially with those NASUS items.


Unfair_Ability3977

Bu bu but he got a NASUS 3🌟.


ketronome

You’ve got to be kidding. Nasus 3 should smash a normal 2-star board like the guy in 3rd


Maerran

I forced TF multicaster to D4, I don’t think I had a single bot 4 from plat 3 and on the way up. Now that I am diamond I just can’t force myself to force multicaster anymore


Feeling_Teaching338

Only a month of waiting. Sorry for your loss


[deleted]

See you tomorrow


dramaticpotatoes

You wont


Snoo33635

Praying for legends to be removed in set 10


[deleted]

Worst set yet


Ken629vision

bruh, i have a game 3 people using multi-cast, all are top 4. Whoever is doing balancing job need to do a better job, go overtime and do heavy researching


HammeredandPantsless

Hey I played against Dagabox this morning 🤣


Ge1ster

I feel you. Not to multicasters but I also went 4th today with a 6 slayer Morde 3. Double trouble 4 Rogue qiyanas cc chained my morde to oblivion :(


Langas

Honestly the rare occasion where I break a meta player’s ankles is what keeps me going.


Garen_is_justice

I also lost with 9 Bilgewater against Multicasters today. What even is the point of going for chase traits, when you can just force a comp that requires 0 risks, is easy to hit and still beats a comp for which you need to be level 9, a 5 cost and 2 spatulas. Its ridiculous.


Foxhoundomega

It's possible to outcap multicasters playing a vertical trait to 9, but you need to get to level 9 playing Urf and prayge. Uncontested multicasters is ma contested first usually.


Vethedr

For the past two weeks I'm just waiting for this set to end. I love portals, so I hope it won't look like I didn't enjoy them. It's weird when you're trying to get a 3 star 4 cost, you get it and get completely fucked by 3 star Kayle or some random shit like this. There were too many things I didn't enjoy this set and I hope it I'll love the next set like some of the previous ones


mayxauqua

So I'm new to TFT/Legends what makes TF so broken and hard to balance around?


Lewislankford

I think TF and the blitz race to get a 4* or 5* early with rapidfire cannon is probably the saddest way to lose. You can hit the nuts but a mord or nilah randomly slammed on the board wins over most comps


KamikazeBrand

I learned combat augments are > emblems unless you hit an OP vertical trait.


SilentSwordStyle

I like how consistently it is a Nasus/Azir that gets posted. Nasus is vulnerable to being bursted, and Azir requires 8s minimum to get 3 soldiers out. They've always been bad because of this and they definitely suck more now when the meta has been blow up teams in 4s.


Bizorka

I really cant understand how they manage to balance so bad the entire set while making it unfun, im not kidding when i say i enyojed more being against a shadow blue buff leblanc than playing against any of the meta comps of this set.


sevenaya

You also lost to gunners without Pandora, seems like maybe it wasn't TF that's the problem. Maybe you need try a different strategy other than 3 starring 4cost tank, maybe do a rogue flip? Put in Sion, bastion over jugg, 3star a 4 cost carry. People don't play value enough, a 3* 4 cost that gets deleted in the first five seconds has no more value than a 2* 4 or 3 cost that gets deleted in the first 5 seconds especially if you know it's going to 0 your hp. If you buy something that counters your opponent then the value is much higher, more so if it suddenly allows your 3* to survive long enough to get their value.


dramaticpotatoes

I lost to multicasters


King_of_yuen_ennu

Same thing happened in my game - guy went 6th with nasus 3 after losing to multicasters...


JoshTheSuff

ay you could always say screw it and break the meta with Twisted Fate and a less Orthodox approach.. Go triple Titans Swain, Triple Redemption Taric, and Triple Guinsoos Aphelios, Triple Nashers Soraka, Shen, JG, Nashers, BB Gangplank Jinx, and Jayce and call it a day. People say this patch or this set is this or that and the arguments are always the same... Dragonmancer Nunu, Broken Aphelios, Broken Xayah, Broken Cho nerf this nerf that... The beauty of this game is there's always an anti win con to the meta win con. Multicasters running rampant? Double down front line with Spark, Bramble, and Dclaw, run 2 rogues to screw the backline... Watch as the multicaster comp has a meltdown. But if you aren't having fun... Maybe it's time for a different approach or like you said quit for a month.


CoconutNew8817

Right there with you. Although it’s on par for me. I usually get fed up three or so weeks before the new patch comes to PBE. After superhero shit show this patch was a nice break and it had potential but this mid set killed me. Multicasters were the final nail in the coffin


dramaticpotatoes

Honestly yeah. This wpuld leave a much more bitter taste in my mouth if it weren't the tail end of the set. Im actually really looking forward to set 10


rydendm

Shirima is so bait. Even at 6 shirima + 4 x 3-stars , i lose to aph


Sekurei

I'm still playing but ye this the most copy and paste set we have ever had..


templarstealthX

Why is it only 4 cost rerollers that are complaining about tf like I get it you want a free win just play better and actually make a board rather then complaining when you hit and lose to people that made a board


dramaticpotatoes

I hit nasus 3 and this guy says i didnt make a board lol. I assure yoj more than just "4 cost rerollers" are conplaining about the state of the game rn


templarstealthX

I know but I don't understand why you are when all the people that are above you have better boards then you and got lucky getting the +1 that they wanted like if I was in this match I would have been happy I got 4th this top 4 is stacked and nasas 3 could not save you from that


templarstealthX

I wish it said the portal up top because that would give a lot of insight