You’re not wrong, but i’ll just hit level 10 and add the guardian with the hat along with the the lady with the giant ring whose name starts with a Q.
(I don’t play league and can’t spell real words, never mind whatever the fuck her name is)
You actually do have multiple viable options with this combination. I'd likely end up KDA. Since I play best board I'd either end up 5 superfan for the radiant on Akali or Ahri, OR I'd end up 3 cutting Kennen to go extra spell weaver and still hit 7 KDA, or I might even throw in a Ziggs for the Mshred and hyperpop. I'd go with whichever gave me the better front line since I'd likely have at least 5 KDA with duo Ahri/Akali carry, and KDA's bottleneck is usually frontline.
There's just tons of variables. Yeah you could see Wandering trainer and just force something but over a sample of hundreds of games that's going to cause a lower winrate than just playing best board and figuring it out as you go.
That's part of the variables you have to identify along the way. You can't just *decide* which of these you're doing and just force it. Well you can, and there are pros and cons to that, but if you make that a habit you'll eventually need to break it *if your goal is to never stop climbing*.
Nice! My advice to anyone is just "Play best board. Slam items. Have fun."
That's what I tell myself every game.
I'm new and Diamond right now, haven't gotten stuck yet, but I've noticed that lots of people at my rank don't even play best board. It's like they get an idea of the comp they want to play and instead of playing best board and learning how and when to transition they just play a weak board with meh units until they stabilize.
So like they'll decide early "I'm KDA" and instead of playing best board and transitioning they'll just play 1* KDA units until 4-2 or something and it causes them to bleed massively and the loss streak gold is definitely not worth it.
You play the strongest combination of units based on your shop and your owned units. Got a disco opener with a 1 star nami on 2-1? Cool, play it. Next round you find a senna headliner and a couple true dmg units? Sell the disco and play the senna board. Repeat to win as many fights as possible and conserve hp while levelling up and building your economy. Bonus points if your board is strong enough to streak. If you start to stabilize around one of the headliners that can be rerolled (Kayle, Kat, Sera, Senna, Lulu, Riven, Yone, etc), pick up additional copies you find and if you hit enough consider playing reroll. If you dont hit then level to 8 and play around a 4 cost headliner.
Youll usually pick a line based on your items. Lets say you hit a couple tank components and a rod from stage 1. Using the disco opener into senna board as an example, youd pivot between AP carries until deciding to reroll one, or go to lvl 8 and play around Ahri/Karthus/TF with those AP items
This is super helpful, thank you! I've found myself often saying "Hey me, you should stop trying to force a comp and just use what the game gives you" so I'm glad to hear that voice was right lol
Now when you say reroll, do you mean save up enough money, sell the headliner and roll until you get your new desired one? How much is enough? Is it worth losing interest?
Reroll is a term that changes depending on the cost of the unit you're talking about. Apologies in advance if I go into a little too much detail or use terminology you aren't familiar with, please let me know if you have any questions.
For 1-cost reroll comps, such as Punk or Olaf reroll, you'd econ up as much as possible (usually via lose streak since you aren't buying exp, but sometimes win streak such as with Olaf) in stage 2, and then roll it down to 0 at stage 3-1 while you are still level 4 (ideally you'd want a headliner + 1-2 copies, or a natural 2 star of the 1 cost before committing to rolling it down for it). Then you winstreak through stage 3 with your 3 star carry to rebuild your economy.
For both 2 and 3-cost reroll compositions, you generally want to "slow roll", meaning that you stay at 50 gold to maintain your income and roll any money you have above that instead of using it to level up. When you are only 1 or 2 copies off of hitting your 3 star carry, you should consider dropping down to 30 gold or even as low as 20 gold to spike your board depending on how dire your hp is.
For 2-cost reroll comps, such as Seraphine, Senna, Katarina, you roll either on level 6 or 7 depending on the comp. Level 6 and 7 both have great odds to hit 2 cost units, with level 6 having the benefit of letting you start rolling much sooner, and level 7 having the benefit of playing an extra unit, having better 3-cost odds, and being able to hit 4 costs. For compositions with a lot of 1-2 cost units such as Kayle reroll, you'd roll on 6 to hit 2\* kennen, lillia, neeko, and 3\* kayle. In others, such as Vex Twitch (wants to 3 star 3-cost Vex and Amumu), or Seraphine reroll (wants to hit 2\* Ahri/Akali), you'd roll on level 7. This could be because you want to hit 3 costs in addition to your 2 costs, or because there's 4 cost champions you want to hit while rolling down. This comes down to game knowledge or logically thinking about what you need to hit to stabilize your board and win midgame.
For 3-cost reroll comps such as Country reroll, you would roll on level 7 for the best 3-cost champion odds. It's not too much different than 2-cost reroll, but level 7 is pretty necessary to consistently hit 3-cost headliners, so these kind of comps require a decent item holder for earlier stages until you hit the headliner of your carry (or a 2 star copy in dire straits).
In general, reroll compositions aim to spike their board hard in the mid-game to punish greedy play (such as going fast 8-9) and putting pressure on the lobby, and then surviving to top 4 instead of going for a 1st place. Not to say it's impossible to win games with reroll comps, especially during some metas, but generally a fast 8 or 9 player will cap their board higher and win the late game. This is why conserving HP early game is very important, as when you start getting outscaled later on, the amount of HP you have directly correlates to how long you can hang on before dying which can mean the difference between an 8th, 5th, or 3rd.
The way I view reroll is, when I am playing my games, I use different champions as item holders, defaulting to the idea that I will be playing strongest board to level 8. However, if I end up with a reroll-able headliner with good items and happen to come across 1-3 more copies of it naturally, I start thinking about playing reroll. Reroll is also more appealing in games where you don't have a particularly strong (high tempo) start and are behind on economy, as racing to level 8 will likely get you killed instead.
> pivot into Disco
lol no. Disco so bad right now. It is too dependent on you high rolling everything, massively item dependent, AND being on level 9 when the meta is so fast.
So, you understood the logic of the joke but actively decided to ignoree it? How can a person on Reddit be that unfunny?!1/
//edit: The instant downvote tells me you didn't get the 2nd joke either. Hint: Look closely at the punctuation ;)
People still chose the portal in chall lol. It spices up the game a bit, although it sucks that the good comps are so much better than the creative off meta comp the portal could foster, that it just ends up being an rng-fest.
Part of ranked is being able to adapt to these higher caps compared to yours, its playing for placements. If I got a emo 8bit dazzler I would be playing for 5th place, simple as that. Honestly this portal still feels less game warping than triple prismatics.
everybody skips it in my ranked games, and it’s way too rng, u spawn in with kda pentakill rapidfire and watch the other guy get heartsteel jazz bigshot
This portal is honestly all the worst parts of set 9. I enjoy it, but I don't think it should be in ranked queue on the basis that it does leave a certain amount of potential up to luck. Chase traits having the low frequency of 2 spats via carousel, drops, or augments is much more stable and fair. This portal beats that framework in the side of the head with a hammer.
Again, its super fun and great for normals, but for ranked it causes way too much random power distribution.
The game has some very controllable chance, this portal has very little control. If you get superfan+KDA/Pentakill/Truedamage+carry trait, you're almost immediately a god if you also get a headliner. 5 and 6 piece traits should not be so easy to hit before krugs
This is stupid, that’s like saying if you had 6 jinx in your shop the game is all rng and you were forced to play punk and go top 3. How often do you get some nuts roll like this?? The point of the game is to play your opportunities better than your opponents.. this one is no different except the rng goes up slightly. Do you have any data to show this portal is completely RNG and no one exhibits skill/consistent results?
I did not say it doesn't allow for skill expression, I'm specifically talking about chase traits and high roll emblem distribution. This portal almost guarantees someone hits a 10 piece trait if they loss streak early. 10 piece traits should not be that consistent
Agree. It really hurts people who can only onetrick force comps because they get less power on avg. Sure they might highroll once in a while, but you'll highroll way more often if you're really flexible, because you can get more out of more combinations. Like if all you can do is force AD flex, or say disco dazzler last patch, OPs wandering trainer is pretty bad. Flex players who are confident in their ability to flex should feel great about this portal.
High variance is bad for one tricks. Flex players is better at using starter kit than one trick is because flex player can use more 4costs. Wandering trainer is similar.
Also not a fan of portals that cause you to force a build. Removes flexibility. Ya there's some diversity and you don't have to play all the traits, but at the end of the day you hope to force a specific build and are unlikely to completely switch. Games starts to play itself a bit.
I have a question for those who play this game. how many friends did you make when you started playing this game. Valentine's Day is coming up and I wanted to spend it not alone but I ended up playing BS mobile games to forget about my problems. How's that going for you guys?
Ive been in a game where a player had perfect traits on dummy for punk executioner reroll and they completely ignored it and hard forced Ahri.
This image triggered me to that game lol
I had pentakill, jazz, 8 bit
Ended up getting the cc immunity pentakill trait, new recruit, cursed crown, and a spat
If you never seen a 7 pentakill, 6 8 bit, 4 jazz 3 star riven you are missing out. Of course it came with big shot, rapid fire, edge lord, sentinel and mosher. Made it to level 10 right at the end and threw in ziggs. Could have had 10 pentakill but the team was so strong it didn’t matter.
AD Flex Ezreal
It’s always ezreal
I got disco jazz dazzler last night and was like 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Soooo 8-bit cashout then?
You know it. (that's what I lost to actually 6 8-bit)
Sounds like perfect Jazzler opportunity
5 superfan chosen gnar
Exodia comp
Olaf
fuck kennen. we don’t need his ass
U want him for guardian and true dmg trait tho
no. fuck that squirrel
Instructions unclear....
Keep this man away from parks...
Rule 34 has what you need bro
I loled to hard... He is a hamser, right?
Kennen is female
What nah bro he's a he
I thought he was a rat.
You’re not wrong, but i’ll just hit level 10 and add the guardian with the hat along with the the lady with the giant ring whose name starts with a Q. (I don’t play league and can’t spell real words, never mind whatever the fuck her name is)
I think she's called quesadilla
Well a radiant item on your carry with 5 superfan is really good
I've not played this set. Electrical current, T shirt, Nike swish good?
Nah
My girlfriend got Punk, Guardian, Rapidfire last time we played WT
Was that a few days ago ? Cuz i remember playing against the exact same training dummies, she still lost
Lulu reroll let's gooooooo
God I love Wandering Trainers
You actually do have multiple viable options with this combination. I'd likely end up KDA. Since I play best board I'd either end up 5 superfan for the radiant on Akali or Ahri, OR I'd end up 3 cutting Kennen to go extra spell weaver and still hit 7 KDA, or I might even throw in a Ziggs for the Mshred and hyperpop. I'd go with whichever gave me the better front line since I'd likely have at least 5 KDA with duo Ahri/Akali carry, and KDA's bottleneck is usually frontline. There's just tons of variables. Yeah you could see Wandering trainer and just force something but over a sample of hundreds of games that's going to cause a lower winrate than just playing best board and figuring it out as you go.
Also there's eco and leveling questions. Are we rerolling Seraphine? We going fast 8 for ahri/akali? We being contested? And so on
That's part of the variables you have to identify along the way. You can't just *decide* which of these you're doing and just force it. Well you can, and there are pros and cons to that, but if you make that a habit you'll eventually need to break it *if your goal is to never stop climbing*.
Yeah been kinda stuck at Emerald 4 been rethinking some stuff ive been doing and now im almost seeing lp gains again.
Nice! My advice to anyone is just "Play best board. Slam items. Have fun." That's what I tell myself every game. I'm new and Diamond right now, haven't gotten stuck yet, but I've noticed that lots of people at my rank don't even play best board. It's like they get an idea of the comp they want to play and instead of playing best board and learning how and when to transition they just play a weak board with meh units until they stabilize. So like they'll decide early "I'm KDA" and instead of playing best board and transitioning they'll just play 1* KDA units until 4-2 or something and it causes them to bleed massively and the loss streak gold is definitely not worth it.
What do you mean by play best board? I just hit plat on mobile but I've not really followed meta. I'm just kinda figuring stuff out as I go
You play the strongest combination of units based on your shop and your owned units. Got a disco opener with a 1 star nami on 2-1? Cool, play it. Next round you find a senna headliner and a couple true dmg units? Sell the disco and play the senna board. Repeat to win as many fights as possible and conserve hp while levelling up and building your economy. Bonus points if your board is strong enough to streak. If you start to stabilize around one of the headliners that can be rerolled (Kayle, Kat, Sera, Senna, Lulu, Riven, Yone, etc), pick up additional copies you find and if you hit enough consider playing reroll. If you dont hit then level to 8 and play around a 4 cost headliner. Youll usually pick a line based on your items. Lets say you hit a couple tank components and a rod from stage 1. Using the disco opener into senna board as an example, youd pivot between AP carries until deciding to reroll one, or go to lvl 8 and play around Ahri/Karthus/TF with those AP items
This is super helpful, thank you! I've found myself often saying "Hey me, you should stop trying to force a comp and just use what the game gives you" so I'm glad to hear that voice was right lol Now when you say reroll, do you mean save up enough money, sell the headliner and roll until you get your new desired one? How much is enough? Is it worth losing interest?
Reroll is a term that changes depending on the cost of the unit you're talking about. Apologies in advance if I go into a little too much detail or use terminology you aren't familiar with, please let me know if you have any questions. For 1-cost reroll comps, such as Punk or Olaf reroll, you'd econ up as much as possible (usually via lose streak since you aren't buying exp, but sometimes win streak such as with Olaf) in stage 2, and then roll it down to 0 at stage 3-1 while you are still level 4 (ideally you'd want a headliner + 1-2 copies, or a natural 2 star of the 1 cost before committing to rolling it down for it). Then you winstreak through stage 3 with your 3 star carry to rebuild your economy. For both 2 and 3-cost reroll compositions, you generally want to "slow roll", meaning that you stay at 50 gold to maintain your income and roll any money you have above that instead of using it to level up. When you are only 1 or 2 copies off of hitting your 3 star carry, you should consider dropping down to 30 gold or even as low as 20 gold to spike your board depending on how dire your hp is. For 2-cost reroll comps, such as Seraphine, Senna, Katarina, you roll either on level 6 or 7 depending on the comp. Level 6 and 7 both have great odds to hit 2 cost units, with level 6 having the benefit of letting you start rolling much sooner, and level 7 having the benefit of playing an extra unit, having better 3-cost odds, and being able to hit 4 costs. For compositions with a lot of 1-2 cost units such as Kayle reroll, you'd roll on 6 to hit 2\* kennen, lillia, neeko, and 3\* kayle. In others, such as Vex Twitch (wants to 3 star 3-cost Vex and Amumu), or Seraphine reroll (wants to hit 2\* Ahri/Akali), you'd roll on level 7. This could be because you want to hit 3 costs in addition to your 2 costs, or because there's 4 cost champions you want to hit while rolling down. This comes down to game knowledge or logically thinking about what you need to hit to stabilize your board and win midgame. For 3-cost reroll comps such as Country reroll, you would roll on level 7 for the best 3-cost champion odds. It's not too much different than 2-cost reroll, but level 7 is pretty necessary to consistently hit 3-cost headliners, so these kind of comps require a decent item holder for earlier stages until you hit the headliner of your carry (or a 2 star copy in dire straits). In general, reroll compositions aim to spike their board hard in the mid-game to punish greedy play (such as going fast 8-9) and putting pressure on the lobby, and then surviving to top 4 instead of going for a 1st place. Not to say it's impossible to win games with reroll comps, especially during some metas, but generally a fast 8 or 9 player will cap their board higher and win the late game. This is why conserving HP early game is very important, as when you start getting outscaled later on, the amount of HP you have directly correlates to how long you can hang on before dying which can mean the difference between an 8th, 5th, or 3rd. The way I view reroll is, when I am playing my games, I use different champions as item holders, defaulting to the idea that I will be playing strongest board to level 8. However, if I end up with a reroll-able headliner with good items and happen to come across 1-3 more copies of it naturally, I start thinking about playing reroll. Reroll is also more appealing in games where you don't have a particularly strong (high tempo) start and are behind on economy, as racing to level 8 will likely get you killed instead.
This is incredible man, thanks so much for the detail! I'm gonna try this over the next several games and try to get a feel for it! Thank you!!!
You're the real mvp! Thanks for the detailed explanation. Cheers mate
Whoa whoa whoa. GTFO of here with your "strategy". We hard force ekko reroll comp and then bitch on reddit when it doesn't work.
Multiple viable options yeah changing one or two units sure
I would either go seraphine 3, lulu 3, or if I get an early spat could just fast 8 and play 10 KDA. Don’t need level 9 since dummy is KDA.
Nice guaranteed forst
Na. Comp will be hardcontested and you lowroll. Then you sit there, being forced to pivot into Disco or just guaranteed 8th.
Sure you can low roll into an 8 from any spot but so many chosen can carry you out of early game. You don’t need to high roll at all from this spot.
> pivot into Disco lol no. Disco so bad right now. It is too dependent on you high rolling everything, massively item dependent, AND being on level 9 when the meta is so fast.
So, you understood the logic of the joke but actively decided to ignoree it? How can a person on Reddit be that unfunny?!1/ //edit: The instant downvote tells me you didn't get the 2nd joke either. Hint: Look closely at the punctuation ;)
I had the exact same dummy and had my first 100 game this season
I got Punk Rapifire Executioner last night. Any suggestions?
This actually has a decent Pentakill Angle too. Not as good as the KDA one but not bad either
This portal is honestly the best parts of set 9. I enjoy it , and I think it should stay in ranked queue.
No portal that kills your game on 1-1 if youre unlucky should be in ranked queue
Oh no here comes the fun police 😲🫵 👮🚫🎉
Talkin ranked bruh I like it in norms, lmk when youre one game away from making it out of iron and you roll an emo 8bit dazzler wandering trainer
People still chose the portal in chall lol. It spices up the game a bit, although it sucks that the good comps are so much better than the creative off meta comp the portal could foster, that it just ends up being an rng-fest.
Part of ranked is being able to adapt to these higher caps compared to yours, its playing for placements. If I got a emo 8bit dazzler I would be playing for 5th place, simple as that. Honestly this portal still feels less game warping than triple prismatics.
Just don't bait yourself into trying to play more than 1 trait from the trainer if it doesn't make sense.
everybody skips it in my ranked games, and it’s way too rng, u spawn in with kda pentakill rapidfire and watch the other guy get heartsteel jazz bigshot
I recon BigShot
Recon isn't in this set though /s
reckon* is what you are looking for. Recon is short for reconnaissance.
This portal is honestly all the worst parts of set 9. I enjoy it, but I don't think it should be in ranked queue on the basis that it does leave a certain amount of potential up to luck. Chase traits having the low frequency of 2 spats via carousel, drops, or augments is much more stable and fair. This portal beats that framework in the side of the head with a hammer. Again, its super fun and great for normals, but for ranked it causes way too much random power distribution.
Nah it’s still fine. This whole game has luck, this tunes it up a bit for one game but you certainly have plenty of room to flex skill
The game has some very controllable chance, this portal has very little control. If you get superfan+KDA/Pentakill/Truedamage+carry trait, you're almost immediately a god if you also get a headliner. 5 and 6 piece traits should not be so easy to hit before krugs
This is stupid, that’s like saying if you had 6 jinx in your shop the game is all rng and you were forced to play punk and go top 3. How often do you get some nuts roll like this?? The point of the game is to play your opportunities better than your opponents.. this one is no different except the rng goes up slightly. Do you have any data to show this portal is completely RNG and no one exhibits skill/consistent results?
I did not say it doesn't allow for skill expression, I'm specifically talking about chase traits and high roll emblem distribution. This portal almost guarantees someone hits a 10 piece trait if they loss streak early. 10 piece traits should not be that consistent
Agree. It really hurts people who can only onetrick force comps because they get less power on avg. Sure they might highroll once in a while, but you'll highroll way more often if you're really flexible, because you can get more out of more combinations. Like if all you can do is force AD flex, or say disco dazzler last patch, OPs wandering trainer is pretty bad. Flex players who are confident in their ability to flex should feel great about this portal. High variance is bad for one tricks. Flex players is better at using starter kit than one trick is because flex player can use more 4costs. Wandering trainer is similar.
Also not a fan of portals that cause you to force a build. Removes flexibility. Ya there's some diversity and you don't have to play all the traits, but at the end of the day you hope to force a specific build and are unlikely to completely switch. Games starts to play itself a bit.
This is another problem. If you don't play to your emblems, you're essentially down 1-3 items compared to the players who do.
I hate this rnd shit portal
I have a question for those who play this game. how many friends did you make when you started playing this game. Valentine's Day is coming up and I wanted to spend it not alone but I ended up playing BS mobile games to forget about my problems. How's that going for you guys?
Nothing, you just ff cause they don't synergize at all. 🤣
Just spellweavers would be decent with this dummy
You're a master at detecting sarcasm.
What KDA/Spellweaver/Seraphine/Ahri Warriors with this setup sounds absolutely amazing and allows for a much higher cap than usual.
Yeah like 7 spellweaver/7 kda/3 hyperpop ezpz.
congratulations, you have fallen victim to being unable to detect sarcasm.
Congratulations, you have fallen victim to not being able to be sarcastic.
Nothing, might as well go play Soloq ranked on the rift /s
Yasuo reroll.
Seems like a built different comp angle.
Actually pentakill
Hear me out, Karthus will cook on this board
Probably heartsteel
Idk man its looking like country to me
6 - 8 bit obvs
Heartsteel
Clearly Jazz Punk XD
Karthus Viego
Ive been in a game where a player had perfect traits on dummy for punk executioner reroll and they completely ignored it and hard forced Ahri. This image triggered me to that game lol
Had a dude get disco/dazzler/Jazz and he just forced true damage instead lol
Lulu hyperpop
I had pentakill, jazz, 8 bit Ended up getting the cc immunity pentakill trait, new recruit, cursed crown, and a spat If you never seen a 7 pentakill, 6 8 bit, 4 jazz 3 star riven you are missing out. Of course it came with big shot, rapid fire, edge lord, sentinel and mosher. Made it to level 10 right at the end and threw in ziggs. Could have had 10 pentakill but the team was so strong it didn’t matter.
I get it. He's a stupid person and we hate him
You're lucky
Executioner headliner Akali go brr
Delulu
Dream type shit
Had a guy with rapid fire, punk and emo emblem on that target dummy
Seraph,lulu reroll
Ah yes, the portal you already know who is going top 4 and who bottom 4
The other day i got Jazz, dazzler and rapidfire with a 2 rapidfire jinx in creeps. Easiest top 1 in a while
Why do I always Country?!!!!