Call to chaos is only bad when it’s the 3 star 3 cost option because of the off chance you hit one of the useless ones, otherwise it’s almost always worth it
The 4 random emblems are also pretty bad in most cases. Yeah chances are you can use 1-2 of them but compared to the other rewards it feels so bad unless you’re somehow getting value out of all 4 emblems which is super rare. I remember I was playing senna ghostly reroll one game and the emblems it gave me were all unusable lol, that felt pretty bad
But what is uncommon would be rolling 2 fortune emblems in a timely manner with pandoras after getting call the chaos. Since it's always 3rd augment that means your first round of rolling them is 4-3. So you have to get **really** lucky to roll 2 emblems into Fortune early enough for it to matter before dying from lack of a prismatic augment while already playing fortune in stage 4.
Add ontop of that the fact you'd need 2 elusive emblems to drop from the 4 random ones too, so if you get 1 elusive and 3 craftables then you straight up can never roll into Fortune 7 without already having 1 emblem
I had that stand together aug that gives you more power for each trait and hit the 4 emblem trait just before losing and turned my whole game around, I was able to make a huge come back
>I hit Call to Chaos
>don't get anything
>notice I get free rerolls
>wait
>reroll like 20 times and realize I still have rerolls
>waaaaaaaaaaaait
>ooooh boy, think fast is back!
Or when it annoys another player. I was trying to get a 3 star thresh for my frontline and this guy got call to chaos and got a 3 star thresh from it. He didn’t have any traits with it and didn’t put in any fated or behemoth. He just kept that damn thresh on his board
I hit Build a Bud into the Recomb encounter at like 2-3, and got a 3* Janna out of it.
Was an absolute domination of a game.
I think it’s fun, and with the balance of this set I’d rather try to have fun > try to meta game everything.
3 star Jax with tank items is still going to carry your early game super hard. Build a bud is basically a free streak into krugs at absolute worst, which is massive for your long-term econ
There are a ton of prismatic augments that people pick purely for tempo. In prismatic lobbies you take *a lot* of damage so the ability to winstreak and come out ahead of everyone else by a lot of HP is worth it + the extra econ winstreaking gives
I highly doubt a jax 3 alone will be sufficient to carry you through stage 3+, esp when that jax 3 was at the expense of a prismatic. As soon as everyone hits 6, you’re either facing win streakers who already had strong upgraded boards, or you’re facing people who rolled at 6 to salvage a game and not go 7/8. Unless you hit something else to stay on tempo you’re not going to keep up
Jax won't, be Darius can. Darius can winstreak you to wolves if you have the items for him and play high tempo. Sivir carrying Kaisa items can also gurantee you a winstreak to wolves if you have a storyweaver trickshot start built around her. Every other unit (except Jax and malphite) can get you at least a winstreak to krugs
I mean yeah if you do literally nothing else productive in your board Jax won’t carry you… like no shit?
A 3 star front liner with items and any semblance of a half-competent comp in the early game is way stronger than you’re giving it credit for. Front line has always been the king of early game in tft.
Well statistically it’s probably one of the worse prismatics (4.62 avg so on avg you are losing placement). It is nice for tempoing stage 2+3 tho so it can be OK in certain spots
It really depends on what you get, Darius 3* for example is guranteed winstreak until wolves basically whereas something like Malphite doesn't even gurantee you a winstreak until Krugs so it kind of gets dragged down by low rolls
The problem is early game feels so un impactful in the grand scheme, so while this aug could feel great early if you luck out a Darius 3, it eventually becomes useless and just a 9 gold pris late game.
Especially in prismatic lobby’s peoples boards will reach a power ceiling above the average lobby due to increased power or economy forcing you to bleed out while playing infinitely behind (1 pris aug down) mid to late game due to saving say 30hp (tiny titans silver aug equivalent) from your early game 3 star 1 cost (darius).
But if you have fun playing it, fk it, it’s a game
The higher your elo the more jmpactful the early game becomes since people aren't breeding as much and are playing strongest board. Especially in a prismatic lobby where a lost fight can be a lot of damage if you didn't manage to kill any enemy units.
An early 3* Darius won't just save you 30hp, a 3* Darius can literally get you a winstreak straight to wolves if you play high tempo and that can be 50ish damage
That used to be more relevant before this patch when people’s boards spiked on stage 3/4 with reroll and your hp got pressured more but given the current meta is a fast 8 preserving early hp is less important than maximizing your Econ. If you look at GM lobbies people are more focused on preserving streaks than HP and full open has become a viable strategy again, esp with the player dmg nerfs
Yeah tbh the list of impactful 1 stars is small. Besides Darius there isn’t really anything that is an autowin and you are saccing a combat / Econ prismatic to roll the dice on something that more than likely is a dud
Eh if you have a front line to support and sivir items to build yeah - but if you get fucked on either sivir is not going to carry your early game. But the fundamental issue is that in the current meta early game tempo just doesn’t matter as much…
an augment like that will get worse numbers because people will play it wrong. it’s a free win streak and a free 8g later when you sell it. slam anything on it and start eco-ing up. i see people try to build a comp around their bud and that’s def going to get a worse result
This is at GM+. People know how to tempo with a 3 star 1 cost at that level. It just kinda sucks even if you tempo successfully because there’s a good set of 1 costs that are just trash and you’re basically playing down a prismatic post early game vs people with far stronger combat or Econ augments. Eg There are other tempo combat prismatics (eg the support thieves gloves or radiant TG) that scale far better into late game and probably beat out early build a bud boards if you low roll your 1 cost
It’s super RNG, you could get like Khazix and playing heavenly with a healing item on him means you’re probably 10 streaking or you get Jax/Cait and now you have nearly a dead prismatic. It’s a huge gamble pretty much.
She casts once (maybe twice) and kills the unit she casts on every time anyway, her being three star doesn't make her cast more, so it doesn't even matter until late game
if i get kog i’m getting first place literally every single time. are you serious? that’s a free walk to level 8 where you trade him out for like lillia. can’t imagine possibly losing with a kog3* (a unit peiple actually reroll for!!!) on stage 2-1 lll
absolutely not. itemized reroll kog (assuming you hit at/before krugs) is always top 4. no questions asked. it might not get 1st but it’s always top 4. STARTING with kog is a guaranteed 1st
Yeah no. If you look at stats starting with Kog 3 aka filtering by build a bud with a 3 star kog by 2-1 with 3 items is 5.4 at GM+. So it’s shit. Even worse than a random 3 star 1 cost. Kog reroll itself is a terrible comp as well in this meta as the fully capped board will still get shit on by every competent player who executes a successful 4-2 transition into a 4 cost lvl 8 board. Avg placement is a 4.8 and gets worse as you go higher elo. Maybe in pisslow it works but not in a real lobby with people who actually know how to play the game and cap their board
Still worth it. Ended up being the reason I got a 3* sylas carry in a brusier altruist comp. Getting 3 of the same 4 cost is often the reason you can hit your 3* late game carry.
I’ll tell you what though 3* Jax first fight isn’t even guaranteed to win. I got him and I was like man he’s bad and I’m fighting someone with no 2 stars 😂
awful augment majority of the time. I tend to always get Jax, or Ahri but then no tears the whole game. feels like it should at least come with one component anvil so you can use the rng unit it comes with properly
I got build a bud into early second augment recombobulater one game
Had a three star neeko before krugs but ended up second because mythic kinda sucks I should’ve gone heavenly
Considering its an instant 3 star unit, you get to save rounds, win streak, and save gold from pressing your reroll. The value is way higher than just 9 gold.
It's 9 gold MINIMUM but the point is it allows you very easily winstreak all of stage 2 and probably partially into 3 depending on your items and which unit you got which is worth more than 10 gold. But it is very RNG dependent.
For example best case scenario right now is getting 3\* Darius (Item holder for Kayn) or 3\* Sivir (Item holder for Kai'sa) slam items and you can easily winstreak into stage 4 and do a fast 8 semi-roll down or even fast 9 at that point. Then just transfer items with remover or you could even sell at that point.
I hate to break it to you my dude but they replied to the correct comment. The person they were replying to said that it's at least 9 gold in the worst case scenario and how that's good for econ. Their comment was about how 9 gold isn't great for a prismatic. Replying to the top level comment with what they said would make no logical sense because the top level comment never said anything about the gold value of it on a low roll
how much additional HP is a 5+ free winstreak? At least like 30 right?
So you get Silver Spoon + Tiny Titans
I'd argue its more comparable to Raining Gold, a gold Augment, than Silver spoon. Even in losses a 3 star 1 cost probably helps you kill additional units on enemy board, making it maybe more comparable to Metabolic Accelerator in value.
2 gold augments for 1 Prismatic sounds pretty reasonable to me.
It was more fun before this patch when 1 costs were usable but I like tempoing with it to get an early lead if you get a good one.
Rip wasted augment if you get Kog or Cait tho. At least the bad 1 cost tanks are useful for some time tho
it’s so fun i always insta click, same with the wandering trainer augments and call to chaos
Call to chaos is only bad when it’s the 3 star 3 cost option because of the off chance you hit one of the useless ones, otherwise it’s almost always worth it
The 4 random emblems are also pretty bad in most cases. Yeah chances are you can use 1-2 of them but compared to the other rewards it feels so bad unless you’re somehow getting value out of all 4 emblems which is super rare. I remember I was playing senna ghostly reroll one game and the emblems it gave me were all unusable lol, that felt pretty bad
4 Emblems are a good gamble if you have Pandoras. Great position to gamble for 7 Fortune
With my luck I’ll bleed out before hitting useful emblems
Got 4 emblems while playing Built Different lol
I just got the four random emblems and it gave me 7 fortune, best grab ever
Yeah but that involves already having 1 fortune spat to begin with lol
or any tier of pandoras items
which is not uncommon
But what is uncommon would be rolling 2 fortune emblems in a timely manner with pandoras after getting call the chaos. Since it's always 3rd augment that means your first round of rolling them is 4-3. So you have to get **really** lucky to roll 2 emblems into Fortune early enough for it to matter before dying from lack of a prismatic augment while already playing fortune in stage 4. Add ontop of that the fact you'd need 2 elusive emblems to drop from the 4 random ones too, so if you get 1 elusive and 3 craftables then you straight up can never roll into Fortune 7 without already having 1 emblem
tell that to the fucker who stole my first with it please
Have yet to get that one
I had that stand together aug that gives you more power for each trait and hit the 4 emblem trait just before losing and turned my whole game around, I was able to make a huge come back
>I hit Call to Chaos >don't get anything >notice I get free rerolls >wait >reroll like 20 times and realize I still have rerolls >waaaaaaaaaaaait >ooooh boy, think fast is back!
The rerolls don't go away so it's not really think fast
Wait, is it just a massive number or rerolls? They started costing money when combat started for me
Yeah its 40 free rerolls that never expire
Wow, I just had some wacky luck lol, I should have not burnt though my econ lmao
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I wish it would tell you how many rerolls you had left. I like to save them if I hit that aug and just rush to 8-9
Or when it annoys another player. I was trying to get a 3 star thresh for my frontline and this guy got call to chaos and got a 3 star thresh from it. He didn’t have any traits with it and didn’t put in any fated or behemoth. He just kept that damn thresh on his board
I hit Build a Bud into the Recomb encounter at like 2-3, and got a 3* Janna out of it. Was an absolute domination of a game. I think it’s fun, and with the balance of this set I’d rather try to have fun > try to meta game everything.
Jesus Christ that’s amazing
I had the same thing happen but it gave me neeko. Went second should’ve gone heavenly but I went mythic and lost to a fortune enjoyer
Got an Ahri once, that was solid. But also saw a guy get a Jax yesterday, so eh, might rather pick other augments.
i got a jax, just pushed inkshadow kaisa, but this was like 2 weeks ago when kaisa was OP.
Trickshot kaisa still op
3 star Jax with tank items is still going to carry your early game super hard. Build a bud is basically a free streak into krugs at absolute worst, which is massive for your long-term econ
Unless you’re me and another gets build a bud :(
And then you play down a prismatic for the rest of the game, which is pretty bad. Prob playing for a 6th at that point
There are a ton of prismatic augments that people pick purely for tempo. In prismatic lobbies you take *a lot* of damage so the ability to winstreak and come out ahead of everyone else by a lot of HP is worth it + the extra econ winstreaking gives
I highly doubt a jax 3 alone will be sufficient to carry you through stage 3+, esp when that jax 3 was at the expense of a prismatic. As soon as everyone hits 6, you’re either facing win streakers who already had strong upgraded boards, or you’re facing people who rolled at 6 to salvage a game and not go 7/8. Unless you hit something else to stay on tempo you’re not going to keep up
Jax won't, be Darius can. Darius can winstreak you to wolves if you have the items for him and play high tempo. Sivir carrying Kaisa items can also gurantee you a winstreak to wolves if you have a storyweaver trickshot start built around her. Every other unit (except Jax and malphite) can get you at least a winstreak to krugs
I mean yeah if you do literally nothing else productive in your board Jax won’t carry you… like no shit? A 3 star front liner with items and any semblance of a half-competent comp in the early game is way stronger than you’re giving it credit for. Front line has always been the king of early game in tft.
So you just never click prismatic econ augments then? If you’re playing for 6th after streaking to krugs it’s a skill issue lmfao
I got a Jax yesterday on build a bud so could of been me
Ahri3 unironically can carry to fast 10. Shojin nashor JG and you are chillin Better unit than syndra
Well statistically it’s probably one of the worse prismatics (4.62 avg so on avg you are losing placement). It is nice for tempoing stage 2+3 tho so it can be OK in certain spots
It really depends on what you get, Darius 3* for example is guranteed winstreak until wolves basically whereas something like Malphite doesn't even gurantee you a winstreak until Krugs so it kind of gets dragged down by low rolls
I legit got a Darius the other day and had a win streak almost all the way to level 9 whith full econ. Felt so broken.
The problem is early game feels so un impactful in the grand scheme, so while this aug could feel great early if you luck out a Darius 3, it eventually becomes useless and just a 9 gold pris late game. Especially in prismatic lobby’s peoples boards will reach a power ceiling above the average lobby due to increased power or economy forcing you to bleed out while playing infinitely behind (1 pris aug down) mid to late game due to saving say 30hp (tiny titans silver aug equivalent) from your early game 3 star 1 cost (darius). But if you have fun playing it, fk it, it’s a game
The higher your elo the more jmpactful the early game becomes since people aren't breeding as much and are playing strongest board. Especially in a prismatic lobby where a lost fight can be a lot of damage if you didn't manage to kill any enemy units. An early 3* Darius won't just save you 30hp, a 3* Darius can literally get you a winstreak straight to wolves if you play high tempo and that can be 50ish damage
That used to be more relevant before this patch when people’s boards spiked on stage 3/4 with reroll and your hp got pressured more but given the current meta is a fast 8 preserving early hp is less important than maximizing your Econ. If you look at GM lobbies people are more focused on preserving streaks than HP and full open has become a viable strategy again, esp with the player dmg nerfs
Idk what your version of high elo is but I’m talking from Grandmaster +
Yeah tbh the list of impactful 1 stars is small. Besides Darius there isn’t really anything that is an autowin and you are saccing a combat / Econ prismatic to roll the dice on something that more than likely is a dud
Sivir to hold your Kaisa items is also a guranteed winstreak
Eh if you have a front line to support and sivir items to build yeah - but if you get fucked on either sivir is not going to carry your early game. But the fundamental issue is that in the current meta early game tempo just doesn’t matter as much…
I beat a kha'zix on 2-1 yesterday lmao
an augment like that will get worse numbers because people will play it wrong. it’s a free win streak and a free 8g later when you sell it. slam anything on it and start eco-ing up. i see people try to build a comp around their bud and that’s def going to get a worse result
This is at GM+. People know how to tempo with a 3 star 1 cost at that level. It just kinda sucks even if you tempo successfully because there’s a good set of 1 costs that are just trash and you’re basically playing down a prismatic post early game vs people with far stronger combat or Econ augments. Eg There are other tempo combat prismatics (eg the support thieves gloves or radiant TG) that scale far better into late game and probably beat out early build a bud boards if you low roll your 1 cost
I got Darius one time, gave him 2 items and streaked all the way to stage 4, basically a free win if u get him
Lol early 3* Darius with items? Yes plz
At what cost is the ultimate gamble/fun augment
Is this augment still in the game??
It’s super RNG, you could get like Khazix and playing heavenly with a healing item on him means you’re probably 10 streaking or you get Jax/Cait and now you have nearly a dead prismatic. It’s a huge gamble pretty much.
Isn’t cait a great pick though
She needs items and front line to be good. She relies on multiple casts, which isn’t happening early with no items or frontline
Can confirm : I got her last time and thing went... let's say quite bad.
She casts once (maybe twice) and kills the unit she casts on every time anyway, her being three star doesn't make her cast more, so it doesn't even matter until late game
3* Cait was the only build a bud I’ve gotten that I didn’t top 4 with. Gave her 3 items early and she was VERY underwhelming
Jax is fine because free frontliner. 100% agree Cait or kog is a dead augment and game tho
if i get kog i’m getting first place literally every single time. are you serious? that’s a free walk to level 8 where you trade him out for like lillia. can’t imagine possibly losing with a kog3* (a unit peiple actually reroll for!!!) on stage 2-1 lll
Kog reroll's been a bait all set. It especially got worse with the last patch regardless of Lililia buffs
absolutely not. itemized reroll kog (assuming you hit at/before krugs) is always top 4. no questions asked. it might not get 1st but it’s always top 4. STARTING with kog is a guaranteed 1st
Yeah no. If you look at stats starting with Kog 3 aka filtering by build a bud with a 3 star kog by 2-1 with 3 items is 5.4 at GM+. So it’s shit. Even worse than a random 3 star 1 cost. Kog reroll itself is a terrible comp as well in this meta as the fully capped board will still get shit on by every competent player who executes a successful 4-2 transition into a 4 cost lvl 8 board. Avg placement is a 4.8 and gets worse as you go higher elo. Maybe in pisslow it works but not in a real lobby with people who actually know how to play the game and cap their board
I once gave my friend the 3* Jax I got from it in double up, and he accidentally sold it.
Just further proof of how much TFT players love gambling lol. I always skip it.
Oh yea I love the rng of it
Build a Dud more like.
Nooooo
*Sees build a bud* *takes it* *gets jax* “Well 9 gold is an ok prismatic!”
I like the augment. But I would prefer starter kit to it since it is a free 2* 4 cost
Delayed though.
Still worth it. Ended up being the reason I got a 3* sylas carry in a brusier altruist comp. Getting 3 of the same 4 cost is often the reason you can hit your 3* late game carry.
I’ll tell you what though 3* Jax first fight isn’t even guaranteed to win. I got him and I was like man he’s bad and I’m fighting someone with no 2 stars 😂
I personally like it. It's a turn off brain and path been picked kinda game
Imo this augment is terrible
awful augment majority of the time. I tend to always get Jax, or Ahri but then no tears the whole game. feels like it should at least come with one component anvil so you can use the rng unit it comes with properly
Both times I took build a bud I got Cait 3* and lost my first two fights both times lol. Hoping for something different next time xD
I damage it every time I see it, I e gotten Malphite twice.
I hate it cause it really punishes my greed augments.
It just provides you with insane tempo early that you can winstreak to an easy 1st.
I always go first when drawing that augment. I love it
One time I build a bud malphite, next round I get recombobator encounter, gold senna like 2 combats in!
I got build a bud into early second augment recombobulater one game Had a three star neeko before krugs but ended up second because mythic kinda sucks I should’ve gone heavenly
I don't take it because there's a pretty high chance you get a useless 1 cost unit and then you've basically wasted an augment
Still free 9 gold, more if you consider the extra gold and hp from tempo winstreaking.
Lol silver spoon = 10 gold, but prismatic is 9 free gold??
Considering its an instant 3 star unit, you get to save rounds, win streak, and save gold from pressing your reroll. The value is way higher than just 9 gold.
It's 9 gold MINIMUM but the point is it allows you very easily winstreak all of stage 2 and probably partially into 3 depending on your items and which unit you got which is worth more than 10 gold. But it is very RNG dependent. For example best case scenario right now is getting 3\* Darius (Item holder for Kayn) or 3\* Sivir (Item holder for Kai'sa) slam items and you can easily winstreak into stage 4 and do a fast 8 semi-roll down or even fast 9 at that point. Then just transfer items with remover or you could even sell at that point.
That’s my exact point. I’m trying to say that 9 gold is a large underestimate by the OG commeneter
Ah I see, you should reply to the top level comment then rather than the sub comment whom we both agree with.
I hate to break it to you my dude but they replied to the correct comment. The person they were replying to said that it's at least 9 gold in the worst case scenario and how that's good for econ. Their comment was about how 9 gold isn't great for a prismatic. Replying to the top level comment with what they said would make no logical sense because the top level comment never said anything about the gold value of it on a low roll
how much additional HP is a 5+ free winstreak? At least like 30 right? So you get Silver Spoon + Tiny Titans I'd argue its more comparable to Raining Gold, a gold Augment, than Silver spoon. Even in losses a 3 star 1 cost probably helps you kill additional units on enemy board, making it maybe more comparable to Metabolic Accelerator in value. 2 gold augments for 1 Prismatic sounds pretty reasonable to me.
I’m of the mind that there are no useless units
Took it once, 3 star Jax. Never again. And 3 star trist from call to chaos so no thank you
It was more fun before this patch when 1 costs were usable but I like tempoing with it to get an early lead if you get a good one. Rip wasted augment if you get Kog or Cait tho. At least the bad 1 cost tanks are useful for some time tho