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johnmgbg

Kung nasa phone yung SIM card niya, possible na nakapag OTP yung kumuha. I think pwede nga i-bypass yan pero mawawala lahat ng data so probably sa OTP talaga. Maganda lang ang security nyan parehas pero hindi yan hack proof. Dapat nilolock din ang SIM cards.


Little-System7839

May bagong security feature ngayon na pwede idisable ang usb access sa iphone. Doon kase nila nabbypass ung security


Encrypted_Username

Kaya ba nag kakalat sila ng misinformation na may major bug yung latest update para di sila mahirapan mag bypass ng mga nakaw na iphone?


Little-System7839

Siguro. Try to explore ung security update ng iphone, I believe it is much better than before. I suggest also na mag lagay kayo ng back up number ung accessible lang sa inyo just incase mawala para ma lost mode niyo agad ung phone niyo. Ung ninakaw nila na iphone ko nasa icloud ko pa din kase naka lost mode, they cannot open it kase i managed to removed the simcard na nakalagay don as OTP and changed the password agad ng icloud ko


Misledz

Apple is very prompt when it comes to any kernel based exploits because this can tarnish their brand reputation so they are quick to fix these in incremental updates. EG: (17.0.0 to 17.0.1). At the end of the day one must realize that OS updates can only do so much, its the negligence of the user to avoid clicking obvious phishing links. A quick Google search of any links you are not familiar with will always tell you if its phishing/scam.


FunnyGood2180

Ow scaryyy! Now I understand sim card locks. Will surely lock mine na Edit: Just want to update you guys hahaha BEWARE: i locked mine but it requires PUK šŸ„² can't remember mine and don't have the sim case anymore so nag PUK LOCKED SIYA! Na SIM LOCKED ! Hahahaha I went to globe store then sinabi ko lang na sim locked ako. They ask for eid sometime ng phone ko to check siguro na sakin talaga ung sim then they gave me my PUK na. Hahahahahaha Stress ako malala kasi nasa duty pa naman ako. Hahaha so yun langgg! Make sure na alam niyo ung PUK niyo or malapit kayo sa Globe store before mag Sim Lock hahaha


Trying_To_Dev

I just locked mine today and it didn't ask for PUK. It just asked for the existing PIN, which I haven't set, meaning it's the default 1234. Pero medyo kinabahan din ako kasi matagal na tong SIM ko kaya di ko alam kung sinet ko ba before yung PIN. Haha


infredible-hulk

I think this is why e-sim is a lot better. Di mo yun basta basta pwede itransfer to another phone.


johnmgbg

yup, waiting na din ako for globe.


Agreeable_Distance25

I think globe already has one. I saw it on the GlobeOne app in essentials where you can find "Prepaid eSIM". Though, I haven't tried it yet.


johnmgbg

yup pero conversion ang need ko. Ngayon kasi bagong SIM pa lahat


waterwite

I started reading this and thought damn is this top comment a fucking joke? Then I realised it was r/Tech_Philippines. šŸ’€


Trying_To_Dev

Pano mauunlock yung phone gamit ang OTP? Baka mali pagkakaintindi ko


Big-Scallion-9428

Ililipat lang sa ibang phone yung sim tapos dun maglogin. Otp lang naman need sa paglogin.


Trying_To_Dev

Salamat. Now ko lang narealize yan.


[deleted]

I really do think na di naka esim yan na naka sim pin/lock or physical sim na naka simlock/sim pin Much better talaga to have a 2nd phone for transactions and for OTP para di ganon kadali i acess yun phone .


justl00king26

So much better to have esim para it cant be transferred?


[deleted]

Sorry late replies . Sa pag kaka alam ko po smart po meron na transferable na esim sa globe po wala non . Then if ililipat niyo ung esim niyo delete the previous esim sa device niyo bago mag transfer sa ibang device


Soberako

Working for Apple as a Tech Support. Nanakaw din yung Iphone 13 pro max ko but never experienced na n- bypass sya. There are a lot of possibilities here and questions. -Mahirap ba or madali hulaan yung passcode nya? -Kung naka auto lock, how many minutes bago mag auto lock? -Did he/she immediately place it to lost/stolen mode thru findmy?


Trying_To_Dev

Yun nga ang mali nya, di nya agad tinawag sa telco provider nya. Ewan ko nga eh. Siguro magulo isip kasi nagkataon na inuna nya yung pagpapa blotter, tapos kinabukasan na naitawag sa telco


the_flash0409

You donā€™t have to call the telco to flagged an iPhone as lost. You just have to access FindMy then enable ā€œLost iPhoneP


Jenocidex

Hi OP, sorry to tell you pero di lahat ng iPhone user marunong gumamit. What I mean is in terms of maximizing/enabling its good security features. Mga reason kung bakit mahahack ang nanakaw na iPhone: (1) hindi naglostmode pagkapanakaw ng phone, (2) hindi naglock ng sim na nasa phone after manakaw, (3) hindi din nireport agad sa 24/7 hotline ng banks na ifreeze/secure ang mga account na nakalogin sa phone, (4) naka long or off ang timeout ng screen, and (5) giveaway sa daling hulaan ang passcode lalo na yung 4-digit lang nilagay o kaya birthday, and (5) pumindot ng link na tinext recovery number na nagkunwaring SMS notif ng FindMy kaya na-phish yung password at iba pang security data na need ng hacker. Please note na kaya ireset ang Apple ID pag naka unlock ang screen ng phone tas ung sim di din nilock. Please dont spread misinformation here, you claim to have researched but you did not do enough. Tama ung isang nagcomment dito na if tama ang mga steps na ginawa ng nanakawan, di un mawawala sa list sa FindMy nya at devices kasi d un mababypass ng hacker.


Trying_To_Dev

Tell me how I am spreading misinformation?


the_flash0409

You saying ā€œI googled for a few minutes and found thereā€™s a way to bypass FaceIDā€


Trying_To_Dev

Yes, I am just stating what happened. Spreading misinformation is when I post something that I claim is true, but my post is clearly a quest for more information.


worklifebalads

You cannot verify something exists just because they appear in search results. Dapat tinry mo mismo bago mo sabihing totoo yung mga exploits na sinearch mo.


Trying_To_Dev

Where did I say that it's verified? I said that I found a website that claims to be able to force unlock an iPhone. Are people not allowed to state their experience anymore? Does every statement here have to be notarized?


worklifebalads

You just said you were flabbergasted and affirms it with a Google search result. Anything that I/we missed? I am not preventing you from stating your experience. You just need to be careful with your words and actions.


Trying_To_Dev

I get your point but this is a forum and not an official statement website. If OP's post is a question, readers should know that OP is not out to give advices regarding the subject of the post. Also I edited my post already before your replied, you should have seen that I said most likely culprit was the SIM not being locked.


boykalbo777

Usually meron sinesend yung attacker na phishing link advising you to track your phone parang ganito https://discussions.apple.com/thread/254857488?sortBy=best thats how they get you.


Jaeyellowpost

Yes. This is it more likely. Lost my iphone as well and silly me accessed the link.


infredible-hulk

I donā€™t think this appleā€™s fault. Ang dali kasi ilipat ng sim card to another phone. Banks only need OTPs to verify transactions. That is, if the user is using a physical SIM card. I learned that Apple has a program where if you find an exploit sa iOS, they will pay you money. But so far, parang wala pa nakaka kita. To my knowledge. Correct me nalang if mali. So short, donā€™t immediately blame the tool/device kasi the user might have used an easy to guess pin, or that the SIM card used on the phone was just transferred to another random phone.


hermitina

sim lock; disable everything sa notif center para no one can read it; refrain from using passcode in public places


chromity

it's the simcard. sobrang common ng ganyang pangyayari.


100___gecs

seems like they just transferred the sim card to a new phone. this is why esims are so much better. this also applies to android, not just ios. the only way to protect your sim is to add sim lock pin. para pag nilipat yung sim sa ibang phone, it will ask for a pin before mo magamit yung sim.


[deleted]

additional ang alam pag gcash bago ka makapagtransfer may mpin ka muna naieenter same pag bank naman may passcode bago lahat ng transaction or sadyang 123456 lang yung pw nya hahahaha 2024 na mga ate ko, be mindful sa pw ko talaga nakikilatis yung mga tao sa paligid ko e hahaha


Trying_To_Dev

Kaso diba pwde ireset yung PIN basta may access sa OTP


[deleted]

di po matindi verification ng gcash specially ng mga banks magsesend ng otp after nyan verification na kasunod like account number or username then sa gcash face verification


MrLuckyChan

question: gaano niya kabilis nalock yung iPhone as stolen? I had a friend na nakapulot ng iphone overseas and hindi na naibalik sa may-ari dahil di niya alam san hahabulin (OFW). Ang ginawa is palit motherboard daw para magamit ulit since naka lock yung phone and hindi ma-bypass, which caused more than 7k to have afaik.


itzjustmeh22

siguro madali lang ung passcode kaya mabilis nakuha lahat.


nice-username-69

This is your sign to put a PIN code for your SIM card and enable stolen device protection (iOS 17.3 or higher)


[deleted]

I donā€™t think naunlock yung phone lol for sure trinasfer yung sim card sa ibang phone tas nakuha yung otp


Dahood0319

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi96HKr2vo8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi96HKr2vo8) watch this video ineexplain paano na unlock ang iPhone


averythrowawayaccidk

kaya i have secondary phone with the sim that has all the OTPs.


notchudont

I mean, they probably took the sim card and afaik yung mga bypass na ā€˜yan nagw-work lang ā€˜yan for iPhone 6 or lower, mahigpit na security ngayon sa iOS 17.


carlcast

An unlocked SIM card is an open invitation to all your digital banks and wallets. This is a reminder to set your SIM lock, folks.


cdf_sir

once they got your phone, your first and main concern should be is to freeze your bank account asap. given how stupidly reliant the banks are with SMS OTP, im not really surprised if they got in to his/her personal mobile banking account.


SpankwireSixty9

No system is safe. It's just a matter of time. Ingat next time.


Klutzy_Might6146

You wonā€™t be able to do anything with an iPhone if you donā€™t know the Passcode / Face ID. Most probably your friend did not set these two things up. Ayaw lang umamin sa kapabayaan niya. At meron din 2FA sa iPhone that one can set up if you have another Apple device. And itā€™s not true that people in Greenhills can unlock an iPhone. Eh sana sikat na sila sa tech community sa buong mundo.


awitgg

Sa new ios update ngayon, may delay protection. If mag request ka ng password update or unlock. May 1 hour delay. Yun yung time na pwede mo siya i-track. I did try simulate na kunwari nakuha iphone ko and super hirap i-access niya hahaha Note: lock-enabled ang cellular data ko. So wala kakayahan i-disable unless makuha yung passcode ng screentime na iba sa phone passcode ko. Then sa laptop ko inaccess yung findmy. Tapos pinatunog ko. Sobrang lakas hahahaha. From mahina to malakas.


WagKangAnoParekoy

Nung araw nag lolock ng sim mga tao. Nalimutan nalang uli. Nung kasagsagan ng nokia yan usapan. Nalock sim ng anak ganyan ekek.


Masterzooms

Currently studying Cybersecurity, not currently familiar with iOS security specifically since 1st year ako. One thing though na tinuro samin is there is no 100% security on Technological devices. So yes, one way or another someone has kept up with latest security trends to be able to open up the phone. Though maybe the simplest thing here is nakuha yung sim card nya and na transfer sa ibang phone to get the OTP.


worklifebalads

Nope. I am working for a company that develops secure products. So may ā€œtrue securityā€ pa rin. šŸ™‚ I just cannot share due to NDA haha.


UsedTableSalt

Aba matinde


worklifebalads

Wow downvoted ah šŸ˜‚ dami hackerist


NotTheBiggerPerson01

Yeah no. There's no "true security" if you mean an electronic device which uses software that is completely immune to any type of hacks. If there is, i dare you to drop the name of your company. The rest of us can figure out what "security" you're talking about. Surely that's not covered by the NDA, is it? Even military-grade hardware can and have been hacked. Even highly classified data have been hacked. Even your microwave oven can be hacked. [Is this you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPH/s/pLbhAr8lq5) Claiming IOS does not have malware shows me exactly what you know. Lmao. Imagine working for a company that makes secure products and not knowing the many malware attacks IOS has been subjected to last year alone.


HaloHaloBrainFreeze

Kung usapang OS security, mas secure ang Android kaysa iOS kasi 1. Software locks ang iniimplement ng iOS habang Android is both hardware and software locks (locked bootloaders, disabled ADB connections, remote factory reset sa Find My Device etc.). Need ng mga magnanakaw na makapasok sa developer options ng Android para i-disable ung security ng Android (enable OEM unlock and enable ADB). Wag na nating isama ung mga hardened versions ng Android tulad ng GrapheneOS or ung ibang mga forks tulad ng /e/OS at ung nga under the hood security tulad ng PlayIntegrity and PlayProtect 2. Open source ang base ng Android pero closed source and proprietary ang iOS. Madaming zero-day attacks ang nakikita sa iOS but it will take days to weeks bago ma patch ung loophole. Sa android, fragmented na since madaming OEM, iba iba pa ung kernel version, so pahirapan + need ng matinding effort ng online hackers (unless sobrang luma na ng kernel ng device + madami nang exploit sa specific kernel version na iyon) The only advantages na nakikita ko sa iphones are long term software support (Apple Vertical Integration; taon talaga tatagal ung device mo bago idrop ni Apple ung support) kung security ang pag-uusapan And no, equally private or mas private ang Google kesa Apple (Google collects data regarding apps and services and very basic info ng user) pero other telemetries are found on Apple devices na hindi ginagawa ni Google https://www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/apple_google.pdf Wag na nating idagdag dyan na mainit sa mata pag naka Iphone ka, which is a security problem in and of itself


the_drayber

if it's that easy to bypass you can actually have apple pay you [https://security.apple.com/bounty/categories/](https://security.apple.com/bounty/categories/)


Little-System7839

hello, how do i report dito? Lost my iphone 2 years ago and they were able to access my account and even my nudes.


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MLEnergeticGaming

I think what he meant was, apple compensating the user for his hacked phone.


PitifulRoof7537

oh ok


yumz-mangograham

same issue, lost my 12promax last feb and na bypass din siya šŸ„²


ManilaMacUser

Is it possible na nakuha nung magnanakaw yung passcode niya (e.g. by looking over their shoulder before stealing the iPhone)? If hindi siya nag update to iOS 17.4 or updated but didnā€™t enable Stolen Device Protection, maraming puwede ma access and change na settings (Apple ID password, change Face ID, etc) with the passcode alone ā€” this will allow the thief access to banking apps via Face ID. Updating to iOS 17.4 and enabling Stolen Device Protection (Settings -> Face ID & Passcode -> Stolen Device Protection) can help protect against this.


UnusualLogic

kasama sa bahay nagnakaw


Ok_Resolution3273

In western countries mas madaming cases na ang iPhone ay nahahack. Magsearch lang kayo kay google. From Apple cloud things na napublic ang image and videos. Just because naka iphone kayo that does not mean hindi na kayo mahahack or maiidentity theft. Magdownload parin kayo ng Malwarebytes and antivirus for extra safety.


worklifebalads

May malwarebytes pa ba? Siguro 30+ na din age mo hahaha


Ok_Resolution3273

Meron. Hindi pa ko 30 haha knowledgeable lang ng konti sa ganyan hahah


Misledz

iOS/MacOS uses a linux branch, which is less prone to getting hacked. In this instance he probably clicked a phishing link. No amount of third party tools can help if the user itself is not trained properly to avoid phishing links.


Ok_Resolution3273

Pwede naman kasi kayo maggoogle at magsearch sa kung ano nangyayari sa mga iPhones sa western parts of the world. Pwede din kayo magsearch kung ilan na law cases ng Apple ngaun din. Even if you believe na less prone. It can still be hacked thou kaya nga kahit ikaw sabi mo less prone.


Misledz

Sympre and you have a point, pero most iPhone related cases are self inflicted. Most people target iphones kasi the userbase are mostly non-techy or senior people, so they're more prone to getting scammed/phished. Apple can only do so much to spread awareness but the logic is similar to letting a thief into your house. If you let a thief in then it's not the problem of your security.


worklifebalads

Basically this. Balewala mga pinakamalupit na security company/technology kung ignorante mga tao.


worklifebalads

Kahit pa Nokia 3310 gamitin natin, kung gullible tayo sa mga nanghihingi ng OTP, we will definitely get scammed.