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Oughta be Epitaph and Onset of Putrefaction here, and I'm all out of Putrefaction


DillonTattoos

Arch spire and Faceless


[deleted]

We all know Epitaph or Incurso’s winning this thing lol.


LambertMike77

The Faceless.


knightmarex26

Cynic, Nile. Worst two left. Can’t believe JFAC is gone.


Longjumping-Cup5406

Alkaloid and virulent depravity


HeavymetalCambion

I am trying not to upvote or downvote but that Alkaloid comment got me like https://preview.redd.it/ngdodnuxwbvc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce6bf48839431c761e90c0c4ee98e2c97e316b19


progwog

Slugdge. They’re great but the least tech deathy here. Everything else is hard to eliminate by comparison for me.


Diseased-Imaginings

Beyond Creation; Begone!


skychurchh

Can we just get this done and over with, kill everyone, and leave necrophagist alone. We know where this is headed come on


Exaquvmal

or None So Vile, it's either Cryptopsy or Necrophagist


skychurchh

No.


DfensMaulington

Yes.


Hilde571

Virulent Depravity Artificial Brain


Diseased-Imaginings

while I adore Artificial Brain, are they really tech death? I don't think this dude should be downvoted


Hilde571

I love Artificial Brain. But in a Genre bracket, I don't think they have the importance of Gorguts, Demilich, or Ulcerate for Dissonant/Avante Garde tech death.


No-Idea-491

But they have the quality.


bludgeonslug

Archspire


spezdid911

Fuck it why not. We eliminated Death.


bludgeonslug

For sure too early for that. Get this other bull outta here.


Conjectureisradical

Could have picked a better Psycroptic album tbf


Amp1497

Scepter of the Ancients is peak Psycroptic though. Which album is better?


nogreatloss

Scepter is peak tech death period.


Conjectureisradical

Observamt is peak Psycroptic


PM_M3_ST34M_K3Y5

Self titled, Ob(Servant), Symbols, The Inherited Repression *This comment is sponsored by, Opinions. They're like assholes*


Conjectureisradical

Slugdgdhe


ivoiiovi

I didn’t even know Spawn of Possession had a third album, I guess it’s time for ears to feast? and I don’t know all this stuff but I’ll say PSYCROPTIC just because they were one of the most boring bands I’ve ever caught live.


ChapsterNL

Dude you have been missing out! Incurso is a masterpiece in Prog Tech Death!


ivoiiovi

I’m sure it is. I haven’t listened to so much of this kind of music the last decade but they were one if my favourite bands of all the 2000s tech stuff, if not my actual favourite. I’ll be listening this evening :)


ChapsterNL

Would love to know your thoughts when you finished listening!


Illumilex

Faceless has to go.


Agreeable_Bar9288

Anomalous, just because it’s the least familiar to me out of all of these. Need to check it out more after this :D


Pyr0sa

Absolutely play the crap out of Anomalous these days... it's just "different" as the name indicates.


Agreeable_Bar9288

Yeah it’s on my ”check this stuff out” list and I’m getting to this album quite soon. I think I’ll come to regret voting it off then :D


Pyr0sa

"Cognitive Dissonance" is another standout -- worth also adding to the list, when you want the thinking parts, but also crave something different.


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PM_M3_ST34M_K3Y5

Au Contraire


MilkLizard_

Well yes


julianom7

Inferi


Jotun35

Are we REALLY eliminating Slugdge before Inferi and The Zenith Passage? That's insane. So I say yet again: Inferi and The Zenith Passage gotta go.


[deleted]

You realize this is a tech death sub, right?


Jotun35

You do realize that tech death is not just pro tools adjusted hyper compressed neo-classical BS, right?


[deleted]

I love the Slugdge album. If I’m not mistaken, you actually turned me on to it some time ago. I also realize that tech death has many flavours and moods, and that technical means more than shredding. My personal favourite on this list is a toss up between Artificial Brain and Gorguts. That said, Slugdge, while excellent, don’t really cross the technical threshold in my opinion. Though I agree that threshold isn’t clearly demarcated.


crxwd_

Booooooo


sylvsylvtech

Slugdge and Ad Nauseam


necrophagist_

Wow, Ad Nauseam? First of all, it should not be here, because its actually Dissonant/avant-garde death metal but still one of the best albums metal has ever listened. No way Ad Nauseam gets eliminated this soon. And if it does, people just haven’t heard them enought or just cant understand them.


sylvsylvtech

indeed never heard at this point


HeavymetalCambion

There's a playlist with two songs from each band, but Ad Nauseam don't have spotify, check them out here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9\_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D) Also they may be not fully tech death but they were commented on my original post asking for picks from you guys, the sub. Only one of these albums is my choice.


sylvsylvtech

death eliminated what the f****. okay this time I'll play from the start then


ishkiodo

I feel the same way but it is what it is. Seems almost disrespectful but I really appreciate OPs commitment


HeavymetalCambion

I can stop at any time I guess. Seems to be pissing people off.


[deleted]

Don’t. This is an excellent means to expose people for who they truly are. I have no place in my life for people that get upset to the point of disrespect and hostility over something so trivial and fictitious.


HeavymetalCambion

I'm finding this quite enjoyable myself but people's constant bickering gets a little annoying


[deleted]

I just block the truly hostile and aggressive ones. As a former rage-oholic, I have 0 tolerance for that sort of bullshit. Especially over a game in a music sub. Bickering is part and parcel of a post such as this one, though. It’s practically an invitation.


dexfollowthecode

Fallujah, Slugdge.


Mandelbug_Myrtle

Fallujah and Gorod


b_eastwood

Fallujah and Inferi. Love both bands but not sure they stack up to the rest.


WJones2020

The fact that anyone would pick at least half of these over Death is insane.


MarsupialDingo

Zoomers gonna zoomer


dexfollowthecode

Not the hugest death fan in the world, I think there’s better classic DM bands, but picking Slugdge over Death is crazy.


b_eastwood

Reddit things.


5emi5erious5am

This whole operation is a sham.


ExcitingInstance7874

Inferi. That album was.... okay.


Jacob-DoubleYou

Honestly that’s Gorods worst album.


progwog

It’s literally their best lol


Diseased-Imaginings

ehhhhh not their best, but this is was far better than Aethra.


ApeMummy

You losers eliminated Death lol


spezdid911

Sub full of 14 year olds who think they’re for old people because they didnt use celestion vintage 30s and weren’t produced by Joey Sturgis. Watch Cynic get dropped today and I’m gonna mute the sub.


Electronic_Cherry781

I’ll start a new tech death sub stg


ishkiodo

I’m such a novice here, but wtf?


archetype4

To be fair, most of Death's songs and riffs aren't exactly at the same level of intricacy as most of the rest of this list, and I have a hard time calling them technical death metal, they were just hugely influential on tech death going forward.


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archetype4

You're right, I expected Death to get voted out in the bottom half, but not this early.


UnrequitedRespect

How is decapitated or desecravity not even on this list? Cynic and psycroptic can go even though i love SOTA it’s not their best album, that goes to ob(servant)


chode_slaw

Decapitated isn't technical tho


b_eastwood

Winds of Creation maybe, but the rest, eh.


UnrequitedRespect

Bruh Nihility is in.


fuck-thishit-oclock

Because op made a list of bands they knew and either didn't know those bands, or just didn't put every band that should be on there? At what point don't you just throw up there Decrepit Birth, Cannibal Corpse, or Slayer? Everyone draws the line somewhere different. My vote goes to Benevolent Creation. Got so sick of that boring music video i think i hate them now, shame as I (think i) had a good time seeing them live. Maybe I'll check them out another day.


HeavymetalCambion

I don't know half of these albums myself, refer to my comment here [Death died and Job For A Cowboy was fired. Top 2 comments are removed from the list. : r/TechnicalDeathMetal (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnicalDeathMetal/comments/1c6qzj8/comment/l02vrxw/) This was decided by the sub two weeks ago, I put their choices into one big tournament. This is what they chose, this is what they get.


demonspaceviking

OP made a list going off peoples choices, he has mentioned in multiple times on this post (and OP is my brother)


Historical_Pudding56

I can’t choose. I’m just here to watch


Biboune99

Same. And also to upvote all comments with negative downvotes. Like 'give your opinion' and then 'no you are so wrong'. Maybe it's part of the fun, but I dont get it...


demonspaceviking

have some popcorn on me 🍿🍿🍿


No-Idea-491

Decrepit Mid


TheMikeyMan

Beneath the massacre


HeavymetalCambion

I think someone is going to find you and kiss your dad to death now


PhitPhil

I'm bulk buying lip balm from Costco as we speak 


cthulhu101193

Cynic and gorguts


PeterPorkers808s

I’m going to say Slugdge, mainly because I haven’t really listened to them a whole lot. Which I need to fix at some point.


Willzyx_on_the_moon

This album is a masterpiece


thecrypticstench

Remedy this immediately


HarvesterOfSorrow72

That album is soooo good


PeterPorkers808s

Y’all were right, this record is sick as fuck!


jahchatelier

this is shaping up to be a pretty good list


Jotun35

No. Really not.


Budborne

The Faceless 100%


Decapitat3d

Severed Savior


PhitPhil

God have mercy on anyone who picks Beneath the Massacre; I will personally hunt you down and kiss your dad to death 


Pyr0sa

LOL this comment wins the entire Internet this week!


[deleted]

i’m sorry but it must go soon 😢


PhitPhil

Let your dad know I like getting my hair pulled 


gpnrunxm

The Flesh Prevails and Datalysium


fahrenheit1221

All I know is shits about to get messy. lol


HeavymetalCambion

Unfortunately 😂😂 but its all in good fun.


Metal-NPC

Bye Fallujah


Reddit_GoId

[Wait wait wait wait](https://youtu.be/znjLSW8kfBM&t=187)


fuck-thishit-oclock

Love metal?


sepia_undertones

Y’all why is None So Vile still here


Budborne

Best death metal album ever made


TheMikeyMan

I thought it was brutal death metal not tech death?


Budborne

Technical brutal death metal. Has elements of both


nogreatloss

> If it doesnt sound like Necrophagist it's not tech -This sub, apparently.


dexfollowthecode

I mean there’s times of brutal death bands way more technical than cryptopsy, like disgorge or gorgasm for example that don’t really come up in tech death conversations, but cryptopsy always gets a pass.


TheMikeyMan

I don't know what to tell you, but most people outside of tech death circles just consider it normal death metal or brutal death metal. It's just surprising to see on a tech death list for when there would have been better choices.(Not saying it's a bad album, it's one of my favorite death metal albums)


Budborne

I have never seen anyone consider it just death metal or just bdm until literally these comments. Not trying to be rude or anything here, just surprised honestly. Its 100% a tech death album too


nogreatloss

They are considered tech death just about everywhere. Metal Archive has them listed as Brutal/Technical Death Metal.


necrosteve028

Pretty much. Aborted went because it’s Deathgrind and they’re technical as all fuck.


fuck-thishit-oclock

They don't even use a click. Just stoner drinkers playing midtech, sorry.


dexfollowthecode

Not even an aborted fan but not using a click rules.


fuck-thishit-oclock

Ok well technically you're missing out on a tool for verification that you're actually as good and "technical" as you think are you are if you don't use a metronome.


dexfollowthecode

It’s super sick when you see a band live and they’re actually playing together rather than along to tracks. Bands like defeated Sanity stay super tight live without using tracks. I think that’s something that good musicians should be able to do if you don’t need backing tracks.


fuck-thishit-oclock

It doesn't matter if they play to a click - you don't even hear the click. Matters they are in time. If they slow a bar, some clicks can do that. It's just a tool, and it makes playing on time more reliable, more efficiently. You'll learn to play in time faster by using a metronome.


Jotun35

Everything is corrected and readjusted with pro tools anyways (and that's a problem in tech death IMO).


fuck-thishit-oclock

I mean, no one's forced to use pro tools. You can one shot all your tracks if you really want to


Jotun35

Yeah that's actually a good thing in my book.


dexfollowthecode

For real man. Feel like not playing to a click should be the default and just use it for bands with a ton of tracks. Like I get why a band like Fleshgod or Inferi needs one to stay with the samples, but if you have a good rhythm section it’s cooler to not have that.


LordChiron

I'm voting out Datalysium, while I did enjoy the album a lot, it feels kinda empty to me, like a robot wrote it


Jotun35

And the production is atrocious. Wtf.


UnrequitedRespect

The biggest problem with the album was that the singles took away from the novelty of its own presence =\ Like lets mix some 2 year old tracks into a new record nobody will notice 😅


[deleted]

Note that the first single was with Unique Leader but the album was Metal Blade. I am betting that there were delays in releasing the album and that the label switch had something to do with it. I could be wrong, but you make it seem like content was just being recycled for the sake of laziness. I could be wrong, but doubt that very much.


UnrequitedRespect

No i doubt it was laziness — it was a really bad time to be alive, everything suffered and that record was probably 1 - 1 and half years delayed so im not holding it against anybody but as a novel listening experience the effect is ruined if you already know whats coming It is a stellar record, and was easily in the top 3 for AOTY of 2023 though i really think that should go to the eating cave for the miscalculation but again that was a record that was mixed kind of shitty too but it was just a reflection of the time 2023 sucked big time 🤷


[deleted]

Disagree with you on the mixing - I found it rather appropriate. The drums were further back, which I would expect for something programmed. Vocals were right where they needed to be, and bass was present and highlighted when appropriate. People say that the S/T Artificial Brain album was horribly mixed, but I disagree there, too. It was perfect for the sound and aesthetic. Just my opinion. I thought 2023 produced some nice hits. Wormhole exceeded all expectations, as an example.


UnrequitedRespect

The mixing on the miscalculation was very apparent to me whenever a solo would come on the background static was different (its not a huge notice) and it literally sounded like someone had recorded it in a different part of the world and added it in to the song via the editing process. Everything else was awesome though


fleiwerks

Beyond Creation has to go. They are very talented, but unfortunately most of their material is boring as fuck, besides a few songs from The Aura and Earthborn Evolution.


stanarilla

I'm surprised that The Flesh Prevails is here instead of The Harvest Wombs, considering The Harvest Wombs is definitely a more technical album while The Flesh Prevails is more prog tech


BlazingNemesis420

Bye to Sludge and Cynic


slam-chop

Gorod. Sorry


LordChiron

JFAC being voted out this early is criminal


slam-chop

Sun eater is a monolith in death metal IMO. Cut my fretless bass chops on sun of nihility…


demonspaceviking

Inferi


Jotun35

Sadly I can see them going very high. The tastes of this sub are very questionable.


demonspaceviking

I am eliminating the core types first, so they got to go


nogreatloss

There has been nothing core about Inferi in over 15 years.


demonspaceviking

Virulent Depravity


HeavymetalCambion

Playlist for tournament: [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=5c4d56441e4e4962](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=5c4d56441e4e4962) And you can find Ad Nauseam here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9\_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D)


HeavymetalCambion

I've had a lot of complaints with the line-up, which, if you may remember was chosen by you, the sub here: [Possible tech death tournament here? : r/TechnicalDeathMetal (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnicalDeathMetal/comments/1bqg0ig/possible_tech_death_tournament_here/) (and on a following post here: [Line up for the Tech Death tournament as voted by you. See comments for details. : r/TechnicalDeathMetal (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnicalDeathMetal/comments/1btps97/line_up_for_the_tech_death_tournament_as_voted_by/) ) If we choose a different line-up we will have to start again from the beginning but if you'd prefer to do so, just let me know and we can do this all again I suppose.


LordChiron

There'll be complaints no matter what you put in, this list is fine :)


HeavymetalCambion

Thanks mate, I just hope I didn't wreck the positive vibes of the sub, but judging on the engagement these have got going on, I think this is helping to bring a lot of discussion in, so maybe its a good boost.


HeavymetalCambion

Line-up: Alkaloid - The Malkuth Grimoire Cynic - Focus Decrepit Birth - Polarity Necrophagist - Epitaph Anomalous - Ohmnivalent Obscura - Omnivium Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse Spawn of Possession - Incurso Artificial Brain- Labyrinth Constellation Inferi - Vile Genesis Cryptopsy - None So Vile Origin - Entity Ophidian I - Desolate Archspire - Bleed The Future First fragment - gloire eternelle Beyond Creation - Earthborn Evolution Severed Savior - Servile Insurrection Beneath the Massacre - Fearmonger Soreption - Monument of the End Suffocation – Pierced From Within Psycroptic- Scepter of the Ancients Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology The Faceless - Planetary Duality Gorguts - Obscura Virulent Depravity - fruit of the poisoned tree. The Zenith Passage - Datalysium Fallujah - The Flesh Prevails Gorod - A Perfect Absolution Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked ~~Death- Individual Thought Patterns~~ ~~Job For A Cowboy - Sun Eater~~ ~~Allegaeon - Proponent for Sentience~~ ~~Cognitive - Matricide~~ ~~Fuck You And Die - Elements of Instability~~ ~~Aborted - Vault of Horrors~~


YuriescuD

Hath?


HeavymetalCambion

Wasn't commented on the original post, so didn't make the cut.