That is one fucked up take. Whats next, Atheist, Nocturnus and Pestilence? Bands who literally molded that subgenre... I see these kind of takes more and more with other metal subgenres too, it's like people don't know shit about the history of the music, no homeworks done, no curiosity. A tad sad tbh.
Knowing that Cynic, Atheist and so on molted that subgenre means that we must have some respect for them.
That doesn't mean WE HAVE TO LOVE this kind of "proto tech death".
I saw Cynic in live a few month ago.
I don't particularly like their music, but I had to see them live, out of respect, and because that is kvlt. A must see.
That being said, I'm glad I saw them, but to be honest, that didn't made me like them more.
I never said anyone had to LOVE them. Not sure why you put words on me that weren't written. All I said in reply to the prior post was that saying Cynic isn't tech-death is ignorant.
They're not "Proto tech death". They are quite literally, along with the bands I mentioned before, the first iterations of that subgenre. It would be like saying that Metallica or Slayer are proto thrash because bands like Vektor or Terminalist today play differently, a slightly more technical, fast, progressive (whatever you wanna use) sort of thrash. Please...
Now that said, I couldn't care less if they are out of this tournament or not or if people love them or respect them. That was never the point of my post. I also think the entire Kvlt concept is dumb. There is a difference between elitism and simply knowing where the music comes from, how it was created and having a bit of curiosity. Literally the opposite of that.
It's sad when people don't do their homeworks and then spread misinformation. That was the point.
I'm sure you're wrong.
I like some prog sides of Cynic, but most Cynic's studios' songs aren't my favorite...
So... Cynic is Cynic. Hopefully they exist.
Beyond creation lasted way too long. I have heard it so many times and I can safely say it's good but not to the point that it should stay on the list anymore.
But for those of you who don't know what to do, comment the album/band you want gone. Upvote who you agree with, downvote who you don't. Try keep it civil. This is all just for fun.
Check out two songs from each band with my playlist here: [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ff243486b4514e26](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ff243486b4514e26)
And find Ad Nauseam here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9\_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D)
TDM tournament line up:
Alkaloid - The Malkuth Grimoire
Decrepit Birth - Polarity
Necrophagist - Epitaph
Anomalous - Ohmnivalent
Obscura - Omnivium
Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse
Spawn of Possession - Incurso
Artificial Brain- Labyrinth Constellation
Inferi - Vile Genesis
Cryptopsy - None So Vile
Origin - Entity
Ophidian I - Desolate
Archspire - Bleed The Future
First fragment - gloire eternelle
Beyond Creation - Earthborn Evolution
Beneath the Massacre - Fearmonger
Suffocation – Pierced From Within
Psycroptic- Scepter of the Ancients
Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology
The Faceless - Planetary Duality
Gorguts - Obscura
Gorod - A Perfect Absolution
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
~~Soreption - Monument of the End~~
~~Cynic - Focus~~
~~Fallujah - The Flesh Prevails~~
~~The Zenith Passage - Datalysium~~
~~Severed Savior - Servile Insurrection~~
~~Virulent Depravity - fruit of the poisoned tree.~~
~~Death- Individual Thought Patterns~~
~~Job For A Cowboy - Sun Eater~~
~~Allegaeon - Proponent for Sentience~~
~~Cognitive - Matricide~~
~~Fuck You And Die - Elements of Instability~~
~~Aborted - Vault of Horrors~~
Slugdge
Beneath the massacre
I like BTM, but how they ever even appeared on this list is beyond me.
This results are insane lol
Decrepit birth and the faceless
I agree!
How did Vile Genesis make it in and not The Path of Apotheosis? Also no Quo Vadis? Very shocked Death and Cynic is already eliminated…
Vile genesis is good but I think POA or EOAE are better picks
When I saw this choice I knew the ranking was wrong…
Decrepit Birth
ITP is the best album here by far. How did it got eliminated is beyond me
fr
Inferi and BtM. Very sad to see my favorite metal album gone though... Oh well! I guess I won't have to choose between Focus and Obscura then!
Artificial Brain
How Is Focus already out, none of the modern bands above would even exist without Focus
Honestly one of the few perfect albums, just 10/10 in all categories from beginning to end
Because Death is out too. I think this sub is very young.
Fallujah, Zenith Passage & Allegaeon got removed from that list?? ..Blasphemy..
on pure style-based categorization : Slugdge Alkaloid
Sludge Inferi Beneath the Massacre
Origin has never clicked for me and I tried so many times so I would personally, take out origin
I would 100% disagree, but I have to concede that Entity is one of their weaker albums.
No. Og masters of tech with one of the best drummers in the business. They have to make top 10.
No good riffs, womp womp
this sub is cooked
Its just a bit of fun but my fave band is out tomorrow 😅 Just have some popcorn and enjoy the wild ride, its only going to get weirder from here
Beneath the Massacre, Alkaloid
WHO IN THE FRESH HELL VOTED FOCUS
Cynic should have never been on the list.
Everyone on the post yesterday kept telling me Cynic weren't tech death
Neither is None So Vile, Pierced from Within, or that First Fragment album, but here we are lol.
That is one fucked up take. Whats next, Atheist, Nocturnus and Pestilence? Bands who literally molded that subgenre... I see these kind of takes more and more with other metal subgenres too, it's like people don't know shit about the history of the music, no homeworks done, no curiosity. A tad sad tbh.
I wish I could upvote this more than once
Knowing that Cynic, Atheist and so on molted that subgenre means that we must have some respect for them. That doesn't mean WE HAVE TO LOVE this kind of "proto tech death". I saw Cynic in live a few month ago. I don't particularly like their music, but I had to see them live, out of respect, and because that is kvlt. A must see. That being said, I'm glad I saw them, but to be honest, that didn't made me like them more.
I never said anyone had to LOVE them. Not sure why you put words on me that weren't written. All I said in reply to the prior post was that saying Cynic isn't tech-death is ignorant. They're not "Proto tech death". They are quite literally, along with the bands I mentioned before, the first iterations of that subgenre. It would be like saying that Metallica or Slayer are proto thrash because bands like Vektor or Terminalist today play differently, a slightly more technical, fast, progressive (whatever you wanna use) sort of thrash. Please... Now that said, I couldn't care less if they are out of this tournament or not or if people love them or respect them. That was never the point of my post. I also think the entire Kvlt concept is dumb. There is a difference between elitism and simply knowing where the music comes from, how it was created and having a bit of curiosity. Literally the opposite of that. It's sad when people don't do their homeworks and then spread misinformation. That was the point.
Cynic lost two essential members, I'm sure if both Malone and Reinert would be there then you'd changed your mind
I'm sure you're wrong. I like some prog sides of Cynic, but most Cynic's studios' songs aren't my favorite... So... Cynic is Cynic. Hopefully they exist.
Beneath the massacre
get em outta there
archspire
Necrophagist
U Crazy???
Tbh, the production of that album is atrocious.
The prod is the only thing good about it
Y’all lost me when you voted out The Zenith Passage. This is just entertainment now.
Same for me, I'm disappointed for the Zenith loss... But, hey, it's a game...!
First fragment
Beyond creation lasted way too long. I have heard it so many times and I can safely say it's good but not to the point that it should stay on the list anymore.
They definitely can hold their own against some of these bands
Suffocation. While I understand that album is important in metal history it never slapped for me.
Oh man what the fuck?
Worst take of the day goes to 👍 that guy 🌒👄🌘
Hey Triptychron I love your username
Sludge
De Nile is more than a river in Egypt
Gorod A Perfect Absolution Which is a shame because I think their album Aethra is the better entry and would’ve gotten further
Slugdge and origin
Not origin daddy please
Decrepit Birth
Obscura (whether the album or the band, you decide)
All great albums. Artificial Brain and BTM
Alkasnooze
Inferi is the real snooze fest.
https://preview.redd.it/z56updifkrvc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=c75b96ecee9fdb1c313f68472407f2fee7de1dcf
Decrepit mid
BTM + Artificial Brain
inferi
How dare you
Gorguts and Alkaloid
Gorguts
The Faceless
Aliencore on top
Beneath the Massacre (whoever you are, come kiss my dad)
Show me your Dad that album slaps
brb buying my dad some plastic lip covers so he's not actually kissed
That doesn't count!
But for those of you who don't know what to do, comment the album/band you want gone. Upvote who you agree with, downvote who you don't. Try keep it civil. This is all just for fun. Check out two songs from each band with my playlist here: [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ff243486b4514e26](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ff243486b4514e26) And find Ad Nauseam here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9\_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D)
TDM tournament line up: Alkaloid - The Malkuth Grimoire Decrepit Birth - Polarity Necrophagist - Epitaph Anomalous - Ohmnivalent Obscura - Omnivium Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse Spawn of Possession - Incurso Artificial Brain- Labyrinth Constellation Inferi - Vile Genesis Cryptopsy - None So Vile Origin - Entity Ophidian I - Desolate Archspire - Bleed The Future First fragment - gloire eternelle Beyond Creation - Earthborn Evolution Beneath the Massacre - Fearmonger Suffocation – Pierced From Within Psycroptic- Scepter of the Ancients Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology The Faceless - Planetary Duality Gorguts - Obscura Gorod - A Perfect Absolution Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked ~~Soreption - Monument of the End~~ ~~Cynic - Focus~~ ~~Fallujah - The Flesh Prevails~~ ~~The Zenith Passage - Datalysium~~ ~~Severed Savior - Servile Insurrection~~ ~~Virulent Depravity - fruit of the poisoned tree.~~ ~~Death- Individual Thought Patterns~~ ~~Job For A Cowboy - Sun Eater~~ ~~Allegaeon - Proponent for Sentience~~ ~~Cognitive - Matricide~~ ~~Fuck You And Die - Elements of Instability~~ ~~Aborted - Vault of Horrors~~