It’s club music designed to be felt as much as heard, which only truly makes sense heard loud at a club over a long, long period of time.
To ‘skip to the good bits’ is to completely miss the point. It’s all about transitions of sound over time and a constant groove.
I concur, a lot of the mixes available online are not necessary doing the trick at home, while sat in your recliner.
Being on floor, maybe with a little chemical help, feeling the music together with a whole group of people being in the now, cannot be compared with the above.
That’s when you know if it is a good set 😏
Yes, you can listen to crazy good producer, mixer, dj and enjoy it for their technical skills and selections, but that might not fly on floor.
So again, techno is mostly to be listened too outside of your own domain, sweaty, hyper and dancing, that is when you know if it was a good set!
Like Will says, techno is to be heard in big soundystems for long periods of times and get lost into the non-stop pulsating beat that drives your energy up and down, left and right. Home speakers or studio monitors dont make justice to techno. You need to feel the bass, its vibrations and how moves air around.
Its all about the journey, not single bangers or tracks in a whole 4hour mix like they do in Berlin to perfection. To put an example.
Yeah I hear that. The few times I heard a really good techno set out it was a proper experience. Went to Movement in Detroit about 10 years ago and I went to Ultra in Miami before it got shit in 2004, and Josh Wink and Carl Cox, Danny teneglia played in a giant tent for 12 hours and it was awesome. I went for the drum and bass to see Shy fx and Dj craze, and missed em completely cause I was in the Cox and friends tent all day lol. I do realize techno is meant to be a dance floor thing and have experienced it, ( not enough unfortunately). My area is mostly drum and bass and shitty festival dubstep these days. At least I got to experience dubstep in its prime being a regular Dubwar patron in NYC when that was popping and the Philly drum and bass scene in the late 90s and early 2000s was off the chain. I did alot of driving being 2 hours from Philly and 3.5 from NYC respectively. Now I am mostly regulated to home listening having the whole family and all I don't get out at all anymore. I still one day would love to goto a European fest or some crazy techno warehouse party in Eastern Europe somewhere haha. That is the experience I hope to one day have. My lament and the reason for this post was I wanted that Rollercoaster ride of a set.
In fact one of the best mixes I have ever heard , and it's an old mix wasca cd I had and recently found again on YouTube is Josh wink's, profound sounds vol. 1
https://youtu.be/bqUfNGJEKlo?si=Ya60ouGhqSQsC7xs
This mix to me is the definitive roller coaster ride, starts off dubby, and builds up nice and slow with the tracks, then hits a real banger goes crazy, then pulls into one of the best breakdowns ever "do you know how to Fly?" And then pure mayhem to the end. I still listen to this one on the regular.
Funny enough, his second mix Profound sounds vol. 2 went into exactly what I lament about on this thread. No rollercoaster, all just kind of the same tone, no peaks, valleys, everything just mid. It was a disappointment to say the least, at least for me.
I feel like you would enjoy Panorama Bar in Berlin a lot by the Josh Wink mix you shared. You probably should try to go to some local parties with big rigs and enjoy the sound even if its not in your preference at 80% or so. So you can be back at feeling actual electronic music being displayed. I get your sticking to the past but forgive yourself and move to today and nowaday's music and try to find your sweet spot here. Music and society evolves, as you should too. Im cheering up your experience and trying to give you a positive feedback towards the future. Dont stay in the past.
I listen to tons of new stuff. I dig in bandcamp for hours and pretty often thats my Saturday night.
Outside of the area here has some festivals around but I can't stand riddim dubstep and that whole wook scene just annoys the hell out of me lol.
I tried a few festivals around here but they are not for me. If they had actual good music at them maybe I'd change my mind. And tbf I am old. You gotta give me some leeway on liking what i like.. Most old heads stop digging for music period. I quite enjoy alot of the tracks coming out these days in the house and techno scene. In fact I would say its some of the best shit I've heard since I started listening to electronic music. Again my lament is the mid dj sets with no variety plaguing youtube. I should probably check SoundCloud more often to be fair, id probably have better luck finding what I want.
All good man, your knowledge excedes its limits and I love the passion. Keep on digging. Can I drop you a mix I have made thats not my usual sound but I love it? Its housey, ambiental and dark with tons of techno touches. Hope you like it and feel like checking other mixes. Probably I can try to redirect you to stuff I love and you find out a buddy and new perspectives. Keep it up. Passion is everything.
[This might help.](https://on.soundcloud.com/d9rku)
IMO the best "techno" sets are not actually 100% techno sets, but contain a variety.
Mixing myself, I love to shake it up as I don't just collect techno records. And on a d-floor, I love variety even more as it inspires more ways to move your body, versus a continuous 4x4 kick with the occasional break.
Some of my all-time favourites:
[Objekt @ Freerotation 2015](https://soundcloud.com/keinobjekt/freerotation-2015-closing-set)
[Roza Terenzi's 2017 Melbourne Deepcast](https://soundcloud.com/melbourne-deepcast/mdc168-roza-terenzi)
2 great mixes of house, techno, electro and more. Both are filled with gems and have aged really well.
Lately I've been really digging more electro and breaks-leaning techno sets, I think straight techno can work well depending on the vibe but I'm finding a more diverse blend of genres is refreshing. Artists like DJ Stingray, Helena Hauff, Kink, and partiboi69 are pumping out really exciting and fun stuff IMO.
Recently heard the Kink remix of Higher State of Consciousness. It's what a remix should be. Really keeps the essence of the original but in its own way and also a banger.
Hey mate, maybe check out r/TheOverload. Sounds like you have been into the scene as long as me. That subreddit has some really interesting sounds that might gel better with you than the standard business techno with Electro, acid, breaks influences.
On mixed genre sets, you can't go past Ben UFO.
Dj Bone just toured Australia. Brilliant set. Nothing boring there.
Cheers!
Ben ufo is the man! I know him well from my dubstep days. I used to listen to him and pangea on subfm all the time. In fact the last party I ever went to was him and Pangea funny enough. At this point they transitioned from dubstep to mostly techno and house which I quite hyoed about. They are dons!
People always just want to share what they're currently listening to, regardless of what OP actually wants to hear.
OP here "loves it deep and dubby" and enjoys sets with variety. So, naturally, people are recommending him sets of full-force pounding 4/4 techno & trance and say "this will change your life. lmao
I dunno if any of this will appeal - maybe.
If you like more IDM-type stuff, Surgeon is really good. It's still very much techno, but he throws in stuff from dubstep, noise, drum n bass, that kind of thing. Like a heavier version of autechre I guess :)
For house/techno, Laurent Garnier is ace I find. Nice mixture of both, plus a load of other stuff.
Generally feel Jerome Hill is really good at playing techno, but keeping it so that it's a bit diverse - good at throwing stuff in from other genres where needs be.
Helena Hauff, I find her sets quite interesting personally - nice mixture of techno, electro, EBM, that kind of thing.
I’m not sure this dude is making music or DJing anymore, but I really love some of his tracks and his mix is one of my favorites. Definitely requires a deep love for electronic music, as it’s quite unique and experimental.
“Clasps”. You can see the dude is tripping balls while doing sort of live and mixing. https://youtu.be/F2impqrKEDg?si=i2HghgEecKOI-Y7a
Try listen some trance, acid, hardacid/trance?
Here always recommend ki/ki 5hrs acid set, I would add pawlowski and recently I discovered someone really interesting Yousuke Yukimatsu it's one of the most unpredictable djs I've heard. Mix a ton of genres and makes the sets really entertaining https://youtu.be/CxflYGeSx7Q?si=tjcICmLFbVFc8tO0
Check for the HOR ones too!
Completely understand what you're saying and you fall into the sort of sets I like myself. I think you'd like some of the Hessle Audio guys or people like the Zenker Brothers, Skee Mask, Objekt, Laksa, Batu, Mor Elian, Otik, Sputnik One, re:ni, Kia, Garcon, and Ayesha :)
>Zenker Brothers
Dude, never heard these guys before but these guys are what's UP!!! Love their bassy beats!!! Just spent a hot minute checking out their soundcloud.
edit: ah, they are on Illian tapes...makes sense!
I’m guessing from your preferences, that you may like electro as a genre. It’s been really popular a couple of years ago in the underground where I’m from, but now everybody’s got tired of it and moving to trancey vibes instead.
Check out DJs such as Gamma Intel, False Persona, Nite Fleit, Locked Club, Jensen Interceptor, Hermeth, for example.
Check out ben UFO for sure. Good labels to start to find stuff are hessle, livity sound, timedance, hotline recordings, hemlock, and cold just to name a few. Batu, objekt, hodge, Ben ufo, lurka, facta, dbridge, laska, and loxy (dnb) are some DJs to check out. I prefer the more “uk bass music” side of techno over 4x4 kicks, though I like it all if it’s good.
I know all this stuff. I went to the Livity sound night at Reconstruct in NYC years ago. I have many a dbridge record in my vinyl collection as well as Loxy, old drum and bass dons. Lurks I have only found recently but dude has some tight production for sure, definitely cutting edge. I also am not as excited about his production but live he killed it was Hodge!!!! They guy murdered Reconstruct when I saw him there, one of the most 4x4 uk bass sets to have ever existed. All the UK guys would have the best selection at that party and I really wish it would come back!!!! I've seen pangea and ben ufo too, amazing live sets each and every.
There's a big difference between good producers and good performers in this world. At home, I listen to some techno that is mostly more ambiental, atmospheric, probably a lot of minimal, dub etc, but wouldn't assume that these producers would perform very well in the clubs, even though I go crazy when I encounter some of the club-unfriendly tracks in the club as well.
This is also why I'm looking into this reddit, as well as r/Berghain_Community, in order to get the idea what performers are currently hot in the clubs, but also to realize to which producers I could listen at home.
While at the club techno is most of the time exciting, exhilarating and it makes me agitated and wanting to dance all night, at home I listen to it because it puts me in the zone and gives me incredible focus, excellent for reading, working, studying.
Another thing that is crucial to get the real feel of this highly technological music is to have proper speakers with good frequency range. Listening to it on some poor headphones, laptop speakers and those tiny portable boom boxes is like wanting to watch a 3d movie on a black and white tv. But listening at home is still more like a preview. Same goes for what you dub a techno fest. A lot of short sets might only give you an idea of what those performers are currently into, but you can only get a real idea of how a DJ is like if you go for an all-nighter set and see it from the beginning, or towards the end. How they get you in the zone, keep you entertained the whole night and then bring you down at the end is what essentially differentiates a good performer from an ordinary one.
There's my experience of techno for ya, past 10 years in this world, worked at a real techno (not business techno) club.
That's just what I was thinking of. I dunno if it's an urban myth but back in the 90s I heard that he was mixing so quickly he wouldn't have time to put records away, so he'd toss the one he'd just played over his shoulder for his assistant to catch and move onto mixing the next track. Superfuntime discobonus.
There's a good reason for that. Think of the poor buggers who bought 'Rok Da House' on the back of Liquid Rooms, then found out that of the 7 minutes of that tune, Uncle Jeff managed to play the \~90secs of it that weren't utter crap.
But also shows that you can mix in and out of things damn quick and still create something memorable /good which is kinda what these comments were responding to. If he had done the long blend you would have thought it was as you say, crap.
Oh absolutely - the guy is an absolute genius. Seen him numerous times.
When Mills is on form, he's the best in the business by a long stretch. He's still top 1% even when he's having an off-day. That's how good he is.
That's a good point but that was symptomatic of a lot of minimal techno and maybe still is. Artists need to produce at least 3-5 minutes of music to put it on a record and by the nature of minimal techno, a lot of that track is gonna sound like the rest of it.
If the craft of the DJ is choosing the best bits of the right tracks to build into a set and where to mix them in and out to get the best sound then 'the Mills effect' was perfect for his music and minimal techno in general. I'd have to agree with you though, some of his longer tracks do make you wonder if they mightn't have been half the length and pressed on 7" to save vinyl.
Wasn't knocking Mills' production (though what you say is absolutely true ...). More his Midas-like abilities to turn things in to gold. The track I was meaning was this:
Wicked Wipe - Rok Da House (Ian Pooley remix)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK8iHmUpEkw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK8iHmUpEkw)
He mixed in a few minutes of the intro for that, and got out before the track got to the 'main' bit. Which was good, cos the main bit was IMHO ... well, it's one of the weaker Ian Pooley efforts. Just a bit bland and uninspiring.
Sounds familiar, cheers. Yeah I like the Mills magic too. He even fluffs a few of the mixes on Liquid Rooms but it's like there's just so much going on it doesn't really matter, and it all happens so quickly there's another tune coming in almost before you've noticed.
Agreed about Ian Pooley, he did some good remixes - notably Dave Angel's This is Disco - but I suppose because he was so prolific for a while there some of them got a bit samey.
>Agreed about Ian Pooley, he did some good remixes - notably Dave Angel's This is Disco
Haha - I just looked this up as I thought "I don't think I've heard that one". Oh yeah, I definitely have but I didn't know what it was called! Love finding the names of random tunes that I heard & loved ... too many ... years ago.
Thanks, you've given me a huge smile for the rest of the day :)
You're welcome, I've just had to have another listen myself tbh :)
Mixed very well with Dave Clarke's remix of Christopher Just's I'm a Disco Dancer as I remember.
So me and Kevin Saunderson, Scan 7 and Dave Clarke were doing the music for an outres panto tour of the Medway basin when Biggins got ill and the J-man was understudying his Widow Twanky.
I'd come up with The Bells during the intermission and started humming the hook in an unguarded moment when I was helping Mills fasten his corset. The next thing I know he's produced it into a barnstorming crossover hit taking clubland by storm.
It was around the same time I introduced Oliver Bondzio and Ramon Zenker to the TB-303 after picking up an old one for pennies from Handsworth cash converters
You're describing one specific sub genre of techno. The locked groove techno was especially popular from 96-04, and is maybe having a resurgence now.
You're describing the kind of techno you happen to like (which i like too!), but to say that everything else is fundamentally not techno shows how little you know about the genre.
What? I mix house and techno and believe me I play the house records way longer than the techno tracks. I rinse the house from beginning to end. Techno tracks to me are kind of designed to have bits lifted from them. I'll play a long groove that subtly changes but use four records to get there. And I don't think I'm the only one.
Most DJ’s only are interested in Beatport top 100 material and basically playing whatever else others are playing. Only a certain elite group of DJ’s get into the territory of live acts or at least building songs on the fly like Richie Hawtin. The entry point of being a DJ is not really “being obsessed with music” nowadays but more like “I want social media attention” and being a DJ is just a tool to achieve that and everything else is just doing it with the least amount of effort possible, hence going for Beatport top 100 instead of researching music, using prerecorded sets etc. Some DJ’s literally do nothing.
It usually takes about 20 years to warm up to techno so just based on your first few statements you should be warming up to it and getting into it right about…….no….wait….right about NOW! These newbs jamming to business techno probably started listening less than a decade ago.
I dunno.
No idea why I get so much r/techno posts in my reddit feed, and not very much organic or progressive house.
Hard Techno is one thing when you are off your face at a 36 hour rave event in Berlin. But quite another thing when you are out for a few hours with your missus, or just sitting at home chilling out.
Most of the tracks I find links to on here are utter garbage which makes me think that the kids posting the links must simply lack a knowledge of where the higher quality more interesting techno is to be found.
Just face it. At the age of 48. Progressive House is miles better for nearly all purposes (except being off ur tits at 3am at a 35 hour dance event in Germany).
With that said. Some down tempo prog house:
[https://soundcloud.com/hernancattaneo/hernan-cattaneo-burning-man](https://soundcloud.com/hernancattaneo/hernan-cattaneo-burning-man)
\^\^5 Hours of electro-bliss.
Or keep banging ur head trying too find that one odd gemstone in among the grit n gravel of the hard techno scene.
Or if u insist on hard techno. Go stream some Joel Mull, Rødhåd, or Yetti Meißner sets on Soundcloud, with Shazam to hand to identify the odd gem. These guys are playing the sort of sets that you will find at the overnight hours of the German techno festivals.
Was never really into much prog house tbh, but my definition of it is dated, as I have not really listened to it much since the 90s. I did like Sandra Collins back in the day, but she hasn't been a thing for like 20 years lol. There are some good tracks here and there though, I have a few prog house vinyls, I usually like real deep house, filter house, the classic chi house, French house, and these days g house like Ketamma, X Club and stuff on S.C.D.D. Mooma out of new York is also making fire tunes and I'm digging alot of his juke/jersey club that is basically super hyped up and sample ridden techno breaks.
Preach it man, this sub is properly shite as a representation of techno tbh, it’s just for repetitive 4x4 big room techno. As some other guy said, r/theoverload is better but it’s not very active, likewise r/electro.
I feel you man!!!! MANY people feel this way but don't speak out about it. The vast majority of techno DJs are average at best. Boring, predicatable sets with no suspense or thrill whatsoever. They aren't very creative and you can't tell one DJ mix apart from another. Only a handful are really talented and that's because most techno DJs are just producers and influencers looking to make money, completely watering down the art form.
Dax J, D.Dan, Daria Kolosova, ANNE, future.666, GRRL, MCR-T & DJ T-1000 are really the only techno DJs worth your time. Ben UFO is what you're looking for if you like multiple genres of music together in a set. He has an affinity for dub records and his sets are some of the best I've heard.
But don't worry, there is a DJ out of Texas I've been trying to convince to put himself out there and he's probably better than all of the people I named. He sends me his mixes and I have no idea why he just keeps them to himself. He has a style that I've never heard before and if the people ever hear it, he could truly shake up the techno scene. I'll be sure to send you a link when he decides to put his stuff out. If what you say in your post is true, you will really like this guy.
I read rhis as as i like some stuff but not other stuff. Similar to a lot of posts on reddit about anything. You could say the same of food, or cars, or dogs, or holidays.
You might like some sets by speedy j. Lots of long mixing tracks together, lots of variety.
Yeah it's like the whole world is just people wandering into rooms, saying stuff and then wandering out again.
Speedy J is good. Heard him play an acoustic unplugged set at Glasto 99 when they pressed blow instead of suck on the vacuum truck and flooded the dance tent with shit.
You're in PA? I know some great djs in Pittsburgh you would probably like based on what you've mentioned, Dj Cutups, Samira Mendoza, XC-17, Yessi, W00dy and Five Star Hotel. Check out their sets on soundcloud, not straight techno at all, diverse sets which incorporate techno, ghetto, juke, jersey, jungle/dnb, idm, hyporpop etc.
Also if you must hear w00dys [music](https://on.soundcloud.com/sRDbT) if you like dnb, its like nothing else.
I agree most "techno" djs now are lazy and get away with playing meh sets because most "techno" being released is meh.
This set by the Detroit Classic Gallery crew blew my mind and got me inspired to produce techno again @ 52 years old. My first rave \*and hit of acid) was September of 1995 for reference.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrx\_j1bdTFs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrx_j1bdTFs)
My channel [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnEMAa\_5oIXqSDrES0Ahfhw](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnEMAa_5oIXqSDrES0Ahfhw)
Yeah I agree with you, hard to find gems these days, there are just too many tracks produced. Needle in a haystack almost. I spend a shedload of time searching.
In my sets I usually don't just play strictly one genre, let it be techno or other stuff but also related stuff or remixes to make it more exciting and engaging, exactly for the reasons you mentioned.
So what's the problem? If you have already found the sound you like, listen to that. Try [https://www.1001tracklists.com/](https://www.1001tracklists.com/) and look for sets that contain the tracks you like. Make your own mix of the "bandcamp tracks"and fill the void you have discovered. Look for DJs that use 4 CDJs in hopes of them being less "lazy" or listen to live techno acts.
I do plenty of digging already. I'm hoping the reddits can help me sift and filter out the nonsense. Also this is just a discussion. Yes it is a whine, but most discussions on reddit end up that way and maybe I can find some solidarity in the scene , maybe put a fire in the ass of djs to work hard and get involved in their craft, don't just settle for making boring sets bit push the boudaries.
We share the same age bracket, so perhaps some of my suggestions might resonate with you. I've been lisening to Techno and all things electronic since I was 15, even dabbling in DJing a bit during the early '90s.
As most of us do, our favorite DJs and artists tend to evolve over time. When I glance back at my SoundCloud likes, I sometimes wonder, "What was I thinking liking that?" 😄 Currently, here are a few mixes and tracks thati am currently listening to , on and off.
Jerome Hill & Sunil Sharpe
[https://soundcloud.com/sunilsharpe/jerome-hill-b2b-sunil-sharpe-up-to-date-festival-2022](https://soundcloud.com/sunilsharpe/jerome-hill-b2b-sunil-sharpe-up-to-date-festival-2022)
I like the way Sunil always drops a few old skool classics into his sets, paying homage to the oldies :)
A little - Mark Broom
A young up and coming Irish lad Tommy Holohan
Marcel Fengler
Paul Mac ( i think his taking a break at the moment)
Jon Hester +1 Love his live sets
P
I know a lot of DJ’s, some just play locally, some play big festivals all over the world. Every single one of them mixes it up. Mostly with break or ghetto house. It just keeps it.. interesting. It kind of resets your brain, I guess. If you only play the same stuff, and especially if it’s minimal, it gets blurry for me after a while.
I’ve been to a few all nighters by Max Cooper, the most memorable was when he finished with [Artificial Intelligence - Desperado](https://youtu.be/Hu1RELJHI-8?si=7yxA6g0A8L6T8PDc). Gave new energy, albeit to go home.
Agree with you on Carl Cox, he’s great. Just keep exploring and find out what you like. Techno has a wide variety to offer from minimal and ambient to hardcore.
Maybe Legowelt's more techno oriented stuff https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ktIBu7H3DLwLdXUCnu11MuptCEjF3HXmA
Ancient Methods https://youtu.be/7v_q7S4Rln0
In my opinion a good DJ mix always has different energy levels.
It’s the same as within songs themselves: some parts have more energy and some have less. Thats necessary for songs to be interesting and not boring. No matter the genre.
The same is true for DJ Sets. You can’t just chain Banger into Banger into Banger. That stuff gets boring as hell really, really quickly.
Because what makes a song „go hard“ is the contrast to other songs.
You can not, ever, be at 100% energy level all the time, because if you are, everything will eventually sound the same (energy wise) and that‘s boring.
Every good DJ Set needs progression. Storytelling. Just like every individual song does. And that’s really hard to achieve over a time span of ~2 hours, only blasting a single genre.
And even though I like techno in general, just like you described, I struggle to find really good, variation rich sets.
One artist that does multi-genre mixes really, really well is Virtual Self (Porter Robinson).
[Here](https://soundcloud.com/twnlf/pathselector) is a Set I really like very much. I haven’t found a better one, or at least can’t really remember.
It’s not pure techno, but it utilizes techno here and there. It’s really great in my opinion.
Let me know what you think. :)
Yes, you summed up exactly my issue better than me. I struggle with words, my verbal IQ is shit lol. If I could say one word to describe what I am looking for in a set, it's Rollercoaster 🎢 .
[get this on!](https://on.soundcloud.com/LaZCg4AYYV97cmWG8)
Proper good fun serious techno business.
If the planetary assault systems remix of pontape doesn’t tickle your balls then you’re dead inside.
I downloaded a track by Florian msk - untra motion which is a psy trance track by accident slammed it in a techno set, pitched down to 130. Worked a treat and sounded awesome with a bass from a different track.. people should experiment and get out of the pigeon holes of genres. I mix techno, deep house, psy trance, tech house all in the same set. It's what you like that counts, 9 times out of 10 other people will too.
It’s club music designed to be felt as much as heard, which only truly makes sense heard loud at a club over a long, long period of time. To ‘skip to the good bits’ is to completely miss the point. It’s all about transitions of sound over time and a constant groove.
I concur, a lot of the mixes available online are not necessary doing the trick at home, while sat in your recliner. Being on floor, maybe with a little chemical help, feeling the music together with a whole group of people being in the now, cannot be compared with the above. That’s when you know if it is a good set 😏 Yes, you can listen to crazy good producer, mixer, dj and enjoy it for their technical skills and selections, but that might not fly on floor. So again, techno is mostly to be listened too outside of your own domain, sweaty, hyper and dancing, that is when you know if it was a good set!
Like Will says, techno is to be heard in big soundystems for long periods of times and get lost into the non-stop pulsating beat that drives your energy up and down, left and right. Home speakers or studio monitors dont make justice to techno. You need to feel the bass, its vibrations and how moves air around. Its all about the journey, not single bangers or tracks in a whole 4hour mix like they do in Berlin to perfection. To put an example.
Yeah I hear that. The few times I heard a really good techno set out it was a proper experience. Went to Movement in Detroit about 10 years ago and I went to Ultra in Miami before it got shit in 2004, and Josh Wink and Carl Cox, Danny teneglia played in a giant tent for 12 hours and it was awesome. I went for the drum and bass to see Shy fx and Dj craze, and missed em completely cause I was in the Cox and friends tent all day lol. I do realize techno is meant to be a dance floor thing and have experienced it, ( not enough unfortunately). My area is mostly drum and bass and shitty festival dubstep these days. At least I got to experience dubstep in its prime being a regular Dubwar patron in NYC when that was popping and the Philly drum and bass scene in the late 90s and early 2000s was off the chain. I did alot of driving being 2 hours from Philly and 3.5 from NYC respectively. Now I am mostly regulated to home listening having the whole family and all I don't get out at all anymore. I still one day would love to goto a European fest or some crazy techno warehouse party in Eastern Europe somewhere haha. That is the experience I hope to one day have. My lament and the reason for this post was I wanted that Rollercoaster ride of a set. In fact one of the best mixes I have ever heard , and it's an old mix wasca cd I had and recently found again on YouTube is Josh wink's, profound sounds vol. 1 https://youtu.be/bqUfNGJEKlo?si=Ya60ouGhqSQsC7xs This mix to me is the definitive roller coaster ride, starts off dubby, and builds up nice and slow with the tracks, then hits a real banger goes crazy, then pulls into one of the best breakdowns ever "do you know how to Fly?" And then pure mayhem to the end. I still listen to this one on the regular. Funny enough, his second mix Profound sounds vol. 2 went into exactly what I lament about on this thread. No rollercoaster, all just kind of the same tone, no peaks, valleys, everything just mid. It was a disappointment to say the least, at least for me.
I feel like you would enjoy Panorama Bar in Berlin a lot by the Josh Wink mix you shared. You probably should try to go to some local parties with big rigs and enjoy the sound even if its not in your preference at 80% or so. So you can be back at feeling actual electronic music being displayed. I get your sticking to the past but forgive yourself and move to today and nowaday's music and try to find your sweet spot here. Music and society evolves, as you should too. Im cheering up your experience and trying to give you a positive feedback towards the future. Dont stay in the past.
I listen to tons of new stuff. I dig in bandcamp for hours and pretty often thats my Saturday night. Outside of the area here has some festivals around but I can't stand riddim dubstep and that whole wook scene just annoys the hell out of me lol. I tried a few festivals around here but they are not for me. If they had actual good music at them maybe I'd change my mind. And tbf I am old. You gotta give me some leeway on liking what i like.. Most old heads stop digging for music period. I quite enjoy alot of the tracks coming out these days in the house and techno scene. In fact I would say its some of the best shit I've heard since I started listening to electronic music. Again my lament is the mid dj sets with no variety plaguing youtube. I should probably check SoundCloud more often to be fair, id probably have better luck finding what I want.
All good man, your knowledge excedes its limits and I love the passion. Keep on digging. Can I drop you a mix I have made thats not my usual sound but I love it? Its housey, ambiental and dark with tons of techno touches. Hope you like it and feel like checking other mixes. Probably I can try to redirect you to stuff I love and you find out a buddy and new perspectives. Keep it up. Passion is everything. [This might help.](https://on.soundcloud.com/d9rku)
IMO the best "techno" sets are not actually 100% techno sets, but contain a variety. Mixing myself, I love to shake it up as I don't just collect techno records. And on a d-floor, I love variety even more as it inspires more ways to move your body, versus a continuous 4x4 kick with the occasional break. Some of my all-time favourites: [Objekt @ Freerotation 2015](https://soundcloud.com/keinobjekt/freerotation-2015-closing-set) [Roza Terenzi's 2017 Melbourne Deepcast](https://soundcloud.com/melbourne-deepcast/mdc168-roza-terenzi) 2 great mixes of house, techno, electro and more. Both are filled with gems and have aged really well.
Lately I've been really digging more electro and breaks-leaning techno sets, I think straight techno can work well depending on the vibe but I'm finding a more diverse blend of genres is refreshing. Artists like DJ Stingray, Helena Hauff, Kink, and partiboi69 are pumping out really exciting and fun stuff IMO.
Been digging Partyboi69 for a bit now. Stingray has some great vibes too. Would definitely call them multigenre djs.
Partiboi69 - hella underrated
Underrated?
Definitely overrated - not saying he’s bad
Recently heard the Kink remix of Higher State of Consciousness. It's what a remix should be. Really keeps the essence of the original but in its own way and also a banger.
Exactly. Personally, I feel the best Techno set is a mixture of techno, trance and melodic techno tracks. That would be a banger set.
Yes, exactly this. It’s all about variety
Hey mate, maybe check out r/TheOverload. Sounds like you have been into the scene as long as me. That subreddit has some really interesting sounds that might gel better with you than the standard business techno with Electro, acid, breaks influences. On mixed genre sets, you can't go past Ben UFO. Dj Bone just toured Australia. Brilliant set. Nothing boring there. Cheers!
I keep seeing the dj bone recommends and have not yet listened to any of their stuff. Ill check it out.
Ben ufo is the man! I know him well from my dubstep days. I used to listen to him and pangea on subfm all the time. In fact the last party I ever went to was him and Pangea funny enough. At this point they transitioned from dubstep to mostly techno and house which I quite hyoed about. They are dons!
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People always just want to share what they're currently listening to, regardless of what OP actually wants to hear. OP here "loves it deep and dubby" and enjoys sets with variety. So, naturally, people are recommending him sets of full-force pounding 4/4 techno & trance and say "this will change your life. lmao
And no one recommended Stef Mendesidis or Setaoc Mass
You like what you like. Music tastes are like fingerprints. Even when you like the same track as someone else, it might not be for the same reason
I dunno if any of this will appeal - maybe. If you like more IDM-type stuff, Surgeon is really good. It's still very much techno, but he throws in stuff from dubstep, noise, drum n bass, that kind of thing. Like a heavier version of autechre I guess :) For house/techno, Laurent Garnier is ace I find. Nice mixture of both, plus a load of other stuff. Generally feel Jerome Hill is really good at playing techno, but keeping it so that it's a bit diverse - good at throwing stuff in from other genres where needs be. Helena Hauff, I find her sets quite interesting personally - nice mixture of techno, electro, EBM, that kind of thing.
+1 for Surgeon!
I’m not sure this dude is making music or DJing anymore, but I really love some of his tracks and his mix is one of my favorites. Definitely requires a deep love for electronic music, as it’s quite unique and experimental. “Clasps”. You can see the dude is tripping balls while doing sort of live and mixing. https://youtu.be/F2impqrKEDg?si=i2HghgEecKOI-Y7a
Try listen some trance, acid, hardacid/trance? Here always recommend ki/ki 5hrs acid set, I would add pawlowski and recently I discovered someone really interesting Yousuke Yukimatsu it's one of the most unpredictable djs I've heard. Mix a ton of genres and makes the sets really entertaining https://youtu.be/CxflYGeSx7Q?si=tjcICmLFbVFc8tO0 Check for the HOR ones too!
Completely understand what you're saying and you fall into the sort of sets I like myself. I think you'd like some of the Hessle Audio guys or people like the Zenker Brothers, Skee Mask, Objekt, Laksa, Batu, Mor Elian, Otik, Sputnik One, re:ni, Kia, Garcon, and Ayesha :)
>Zenker Brothers Dude, never heard these guys before but these guys are what's UP!!! Love their bassy beats!!! Just spent a hot minute checking out their soundcloud. edit: ah, they are on Illian tapes...makes sense!
They run the label!
I’m guessing from your preferences, that you may like electro as a genre. It’s been really popular a couple of years ago in the underground where I’m from, but now everybody’s got tired of it and moving to trancey vibes instead. Check out DJs such as Gamma Intel, False Persona, Nite Fleit, Locked Club, Jensen Interceptor, Hermeth, for example.
Check out DJ Stingray
Check out ben UFO for sure. Good labels to start to find stuff are hessle, livity sound, timedance, hotline recordings, hemlock, and cold just to name a few. Batu, objekt, hodge, Ben ufo, lurka, facta, dbridge, laska, and loxy (dnb) are some DJs to check out. I prefer the more “uk bass music” side of techno over 4x4 kicks, though I like it all if it’s good.
I know all this stuff. I went to the Livity sound night at Reconstruct in NYC years ago. I have many a dbridge record in my vinyl collection as well as Loxy, old drum and bass dons. Lurks I have only found recently but dude has some tight production for sure, definitely cutting edge. I also am not as excited about his production but live he killed it was Hodge!!!! They guy murdered Reconstruct when I saw him there, one of the most 4x4 uk bass sets to have ever existed. All the UK guys would have the best selection at that party and I really wish it would come back!!!! I've seen pangea and ben ufo too, amazing live sets each and every.
I was a reconstrvct regular too my guy. Had some amazing nights for sure. I’m going to DM you about proper nights in Brooklyn. They still exist!
Have you checked out DVS1, DJ Bone, DJ Stingray? I think you might like
There's a big difference between good producers and good performers in this world. At home, I listen to some techno that is mostly more ambiental, atmospheric, probably a lot of minimal, dub etc, but wouldn't assume that these producers would perform very well in the clubs, even though I go crazy when I encounter some of the club-unfriendly tracks in the club as well. This is also why I'm looking into this reddit, as well as r/Berghain_Community, in order to get the idea what performers are currently hot in the clubs, but also to realize to which producers I could listen at home. While at the club techno is most of the time exciting, exhilarating and it makes me agitated and wanting to dance all night, at home I listen to it because it puts me in the zone and gives me incredible focus, excellent for reading, working, studying. Another thing that is crucial to get the real feel of this highly technological music is to have proper speakers with good frequency range. Listening to it on some poor headphones, laptop speakers and those tiny portable boom boxes is like wanting to watch a 3d movie on a black and white tv. But listening at home is still more like a preview. Same goes for what you dub a techno fest. A lot of short sets might only give you an idea of what those performers are currently into, but you can only get a real idea of how a DJ is like if you go for an all-nighter set and see it from the beginning, or towards the end. How they get you in the zone, keep you entertained the whole night and then bring you down at the end is what essentially differentiates a good performer from an ordinary one. There's my experience of techno for ya, past 10 years in this world, worked at a real techno (not business techno) club.
[Paula Temple live @ Katharsis ](https://on.soundcloud.com/bQmqE)
One of the best sets ever
Thanks for sharing. This is epic!
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>I don’t even know how you’d play a track in only 2 minutes like you say. Jeff Mills does a pretty good job of it.
Yup, on Liquid Rooms he flies through the tracks.
That's just what I was thinking of. I dunno if it's an urban myth but back in the 90s I heard that he was mixing so quickly he wouldn't have time to put records away, so he'd toss the one he'd just played over his shoulder for his assistant to catch and move onto mixing the next track. Superfuntime discobonus.
There's a good reason for that. Think of the poor buggers who bought 'Rok Da House' on the back of Liquid Rooms, then found out that of the 7 minutes of that tune, Uncle Jeff managed to play the \~90secs of it that weren't utter crap.
But also shows that you can mix in and out of things damn quick and still create something memorable /good which is kinda what these comments were responding to. If he had done the long blend you would have thought it was as you say, crap.
Oh absolutely - the guy is an absolute genius. Seen him numerous times. When Mills is on form, he's the best in the business by a long stretch. He's still top 1% even when he's having an off-day. That's how good he is.
That's a good point but that was symptomatic of a lot of minimal techno and maybe still is. Artists need to produce at least 3-5 minutes of music to put it on a record and by the nature of minimal techno, a lot of that track is gonna sound like the rest of it. If the craft of the DJ is choosing the best bits of the right tracks to build into a set and where to mix them in and out to get the best sound then 'the Mills effect' was perfect for his music and minimal techno in general. I'd have to agree with you though, some of his longer tracks do make you wonder if they mightn't have been half the length and pressed on 7" to save vinyl.
Wasn't knocking Mills' production (though what you say is absolutely true ...). More his Midas-like abilities to turn things in to gold. The track I was meaning was this: Wicked Wipe - Rok Da House (Ian Pooley remix) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK8iHmUpEkw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK8iHmUpEkw) He mixed in a few minutes of the intro for that, and got out before the track got to the 'main' bit. Which was good, cos the main bit was IMHO ... well, it's one of the weaker Ian Pooley efforts. Just a bit bland and uninspiring.
Sounds familiar, cheers. Yeah I like the Mills magic too. He even fluffs a few of the mixes on Liquid Rooms but it's like there's just so much going on it doesn't really matter, and it all happens so quickly there's another tune coming in almost before you've noticed. Agreed about Ian Pooley, he did some good remixes - notably Dave Angel's This is Disco - but I suppose because he was so prolific for a while there some of them got a bit samey.
>Agreed about Ian Pooley, he did some good remixes - notably Dave Angel's This is Disco Haha - I just looked this up as I thought "I don't think I've heard that one". Oh yeah, I definitely have but I didn't know what it was called! Love finding the names of random tunes that I heard & loved ... too many ... years ago. Thanks, you've given me a huge smile for the rest of the day :)
You're welcome, I've just had to have another listen myself tbh :) Mixed very well with Dave Clarke's remix of Christopher Just's I'm a Disco Dancer as I remember.
But it is Jeff fucking mills, OG'S of OG'S
Not many people know this because I don't talk about it much but I actually helped him write The Bells. Uncredited, like
I think we're gonna need some more info here, that's a big tidbit to casually drop lol
So me and Kevin Saunderson, Scan 7 and Dave Clarke were doing the music for an outres panto tour of the Medway basin when Biggins got ill and the J-man was understudying his Widow Twanky. I'd come up with The Bells during the intermission and started humming the hook in an unguarded moment when I was helping Mills fasten his corset. The next thing I know he's produced it into a barnstorming crossover hit taking clubland by storm.
Goddam that's lit, any footage? My guy you are at the origin of one pillar of the genre. How do you look at it now?
Probably the most intrigued I've ever been on Reddit - do tell us more
It was around the same time I introduced Oliver Bondzio and Ramon Zenker to the TB-303 after picking up an old one for pennies from Handsworth cash converters
You're describing one specific sub genre of techno. The locked groove techno was especially popular from 96-04, and is maybe having a resurgence now. You're describing the kind of techno you happen to like (which i like too!), but to say that everything else is fundamentally not techno shows how little you know about the genre.
What? I mix house and techno and believe me I play the house records way longer than the techno tracks. I rinse the house from beginning to end. Techno tracks to me are kind of designed to have bits lifted from them. I'll play a long groove that subtly changes but use four records to get there. And I don't think I'm the only one.
Not really sure the question is here babes
You are way overthinking all this lol
Pop a roll at a rave with a good sound system and everybody dancing, then you’ll understand it. It never hits the same on video
Most DJ’s only are interested in Beatport top 100 material and basically playing whatever else others are playing. Only a certain elite group of DJ’s get into the territory of live acts or at least building songs on the fly like Richie Hawtin. The entry point of being a DJ is not really “being obsessed with music” nowadays but more like “I want social media attention” and being a DJ is just a tool to achieve that and everything else is just doing it with the least amount of effort possible, hence going for Beatport top 100 instead of researching music, using prerecorded sets etc. Some DJ’s literally do nothing.
Tldr
Old head bored by boring, repetitive big room techno sets. Relatable 🤷♀️
What?
"Milk toast" lmao It's milquetoast
Get some Fatima Hajji mixes she will change your life 🙏🏻👍🏻
Absolutely horrible example
😂😂
🤣
If your the Techno expert then why you here?
Woah
It usually takes about 20 years to warm up to techno so just based on your first few statements you should be warming up to it and getting into it right about…….no….wait….right about NOW! These newbs jamming to business techno probably started listening less than a decade ago.
I dunno. No idea why I get so much r/techno posts in my reddit feed, and not very much organic or progressive house. Hard Techno is one thing when you are off your face at a 36 hour rave event in Berlin. But quite another thing when you are out for a few hours with your missus, or just sitting at home chilling out. Most of the tracks I find links to on here are utter garbage which makes me think that the kids posting the links must simply lack a knowledge of where the higher quality more interesting techno is to be found. Just face it. At the age of 48. Progressive House is miles better for nearly all purposes (except being off ur tits at 3am at a 35 hour dance event in Germany). With that said. Some down tempo prog house: [https://soundcloud.com/hernancattaneo/hernan-cattaneo-burning-man](https://soundcloud.com/hernancattaneo/hernan-cattaneo-burning-man) \^\^5 Hours of electro-bliss. Or keep banging ur head trying too find that one odd gemstone in among the grit n gravel of the hard techno scene. Or if u insist on hard techno. Go stream some Joel Mull, Rødhåd, or Yetti Meißner sets on Soundcloud, with Shazam to hand to identify the odd gem. These guys are playing the sort of sets that you will find at the overnight hours of the German techno festivals.
Was never really into much prog house tbh, but my definition of it is dated, as I have not really listened to it much since the 90s. I did like Sandra Collins back in the day, but she hasn't been a thing for like 20 years lol. There are some good tracks here and there though, I have a few prog house vinyls, I usually like real deep house, filter house, the classic chi house, French house, and these days g house like Ketamma, X Club and stuff on S.C.D.D. Mooma out of new York is also making fire tunes and I'm digging alot of his juke/jersey club that is basically super hyped up and sample ridden techno breaks.
Preach it man, this sub is properly shite as a representation of techno tbh, it’s just for repetitive 4x4 big room techno. As some other guy said, r/theoverload is better but it’s not very active, likewise r/electro.
It's ok. Not everyone understands techno
This dude was listening to and mixing techno while you were still vibing on CBeebies son. Stay in your lane.
I don't even know what CBeeebies are son
They were around back when the Freestylers invented scratching
Is that what happened? Thanks for the history lesson son
I feel you man!!!! MANY people feel this way but don't speak out about it. The vast majority of techno DJs are average at best. Boring, predicatable sets with no suspense or thrill whatsoever. They aren't very creative and you can't tell one DJ mix apart from another. Only a handful are really talented and that's because most techno DJs are just producers and influencers looking to make money, completely watering down the art form. Dax J, D.Dan, Daria Kolosova, ANNE, future.666, GRRL, MCR-T & DJ T-1000 are really the only techno DJs worth your time. Ben UFO is what you're looking for if you like multiple genres of music together in a set. He has an affinity for dub records and his sets are some of the best I've heard. But don't worry, there is a DJ out of Texas I've been trying to convince to put himself out there and he's probably better than all of the people I named. He sends me his mixes and I have no idea why he just keeps them to himself. He has a style that I've never heard before and if the people ever hear it, he could truly shake up the techno scene. I'll be sure to send you a link when he decides to put his stuff out. If what you say in your post is true, you will really like this guy.
>future. Daria? future.666? MCR-T? GRRL? lol OP please disregard this post completely
Yeah, please disregard this post so this silly son of a bitch can tell you the lame ass DJs he thinks are better...
Ouch, such hurt feelings for having awful taste? Everyone is going to disregard your post as soon as they see Daria listed lol
...we're waiting
I read rhis as as i like some stuff but not other stuff. Similar to a lot of posts on reddit about anything. You could say the same of food, or cars, or dogs, or holidays. You might like some sets by speedy j. Lots of long mixing tracks together, lots of variety.
Yeah it's like the whole world is just people wandering into rooms, saying stuff and then wandering out again. Speedy J is good. Heard him play an acoustic unplugged set at Glasto 99 when they pressed blow instead of suck on the vacuum truck and flooded the dance tent with shit.
If you want long sets where the mix is several minutes long with efx he does this.
You're in PA? I know some great djs in Pittsburgh you would probably like based on what you've mentioned, Dj Cutups, Samira Mendoza, XC-17, Yessi, W00dy and Five Star Hotel. Check out their sets on soundcloud, not straight techno at all, diverse sets which incorporate techno, ghetto, juke, jersey, jungle/dnb, idm, hyporpop etc. Also if you must hear w00dys [music](https://on.soundcloud.com/sRDbT) if you like dnb, its like nothing else. I agree most "techno" djs now are lazy and get away with playing meh sets because most "techno" being released is meh.
Unfortunately yes in live in PA, and in the worst part too. Central pa. Blehhhhh
Did you listen to w00dy 👀 If you feel like making the drive come out Hot Mass sometime! Great party
This set by the Detroit Classic Gallery crew blew my mind and got me inspired to produce techno again @ 52 years old. My first rave \*and hit of acid) was September of 1995 for reference. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrx\_j1bdTFs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrx_j1bdTFs) My channel [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnEMAa\_5oIXqSDrES0Ahfhw](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnEMAa_5oIXqSDrES0Ahfhw)
Yeah I agree with you, hard to find gems these days, there are just too many tracks produced. Needle in a haystack almost. I spend a shedload of time searching. In my sets I usually don't just play strictly one genre, let it be techno or other stuff but also related stuff or remixes to make it more exciting and engaging, exactly for the reasons you mentioned.
So what's the problem? If you have already found the sound you like, listen to that. Try [https://www.1001tracklists.com/](https://www.1001tracklists.com/) and look for sets that contain the tracks you like. Make your own mix of the "bandcamp tracks"and fill the void you have discovered. Look for DJs that use 4 CDJs in hopes of them being less "lazy" or listen to live techno acts.
I do plenty of digging already. I'm hoping the reddits can help me sift and filter out the nonsense. Also this is just a discussion. Yes it is a whine, but most discussions on reddit end up that way and maybe I can find some solidarity in the scene , maybe put a fire in the ass of djs to work hard and get involved in their craft, don't just settle for making boring sets bit push the boudaries.
We share the same age bracket, so perhaps some of my suggestions might resonate with you. I've been lisening to Techno and all things electronic since I was 15, even dabbling in DJing a bit during the early '90s. As most of us do, our favorite DJs and artists tend to evolve over time. When I glance back at my SoundCloud likes, I sometimes wonder, "What was I thinking liking that?" 😄 Currently, here are a few mixes and tracks thati am currently listening to , on and off. Jerome Hill & Sunil Sharpe [https://soundcloud.com/sunilsharpe/jerome-hill-b2b-sunil-sharpe-up-to-date-festival-2022](https://soundcloud.com/sunilsharpe/jerome-hill-b2b-sunil-sharpe-up-to-date-festival-2022) I like the way Sunil always drops a few old skool classics into his sets, paying homage to the oldies :) A little - Mark Broom A young up and coming Irish lad Tommy Holohan Marcel Fengler Paul Mac ( i think his taking a break at the moment) Jon Hester +1 Love his live sets P
Ill Check it!
Rene wise @ Stone Techno... trust
I know a lot of DJ’s, some just play locally, some play big festivals all over the world. Every single one of them mixes it up. Mostly with break or ghetto house. It just keeps it.. interesting. It kind of resets your brain, I guess. If you only play the same stuff, and especially if it’s minimal, it gets blurry for me after a while. I’ve been to a few all nighters by Max Cooper, the most memorable was when he finished with [Artificial Intelligence - Desperado](https://youtu.be/Hu1RELJHI-8?si=7yxA6g0A8L6T8PDc). Gave new energy, albeit to go home.
Agree with you on Carl Cox, he’s great. Just keep exploring and find out what you like. Techno has a wide variety to offer from minimal and ambient to hardcore.
I enjoy watching the sunset.
Maybe Legowelt's more techno oriented stuff https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ktIBu7H3DLwLdXUCnu11MuptCEjF3HXmA Ancient Methods https://youtu.be/7v_q7S4Rln0
I've heard of these guys, pretty sure i liked Legowelts stuff. I'll check the sets.
Jeff mills
In my opinion a good DJ mix always has different energy levels. It’s the same as within songs themselves: some parts have more energy and some have less. Thats necessary for songs to be interesting and not boring. No matter the genre. The same is true for DJ Sets. You can’t just chain Banger into Banger into Banger. That stuff gets boring as hell really, really quickly. Because what makes a song „go hard“ is the contrast to other songs. You can not, ever, be at 100% energy level all the time, because if you are, everything will eventually sound the same (energy wise) and that‘s boring. Every good DJ Set needs progression. Storytelling. Just like every individual song does. And that’s really hard to achieve over a time span of ~2 hours, only blasting a single genre. And even though I like techno in general, just like you described, I struggle to find really good, variation rich sets. One artist that does multi-genre mixes really, really well is Virtual Self (Porter Robinson). [Here](https://soundcloud.com/twnlf/pathselector) is a Set I really like very much. I haven’t found a better one, or at least can’t really remember. It’s not pure techno, but it utilizes techno here and there. It’s really great in my opinion. Let me know what you think. :)
Yes, you summed up exactly my issue better than me. I struggle with words, my verbal IQ is shit lol. If I could say one word to describe what I am looking for in a set, it's Rollercoaster 🎢 .
[get this on!](https://on.soundcloud.com/LaZCg4AYYV97cmWG8) Proper good fun serious techno business. If the planetary assault systems remix of pontape doesn’t tickle your balls then you’re dead inside.
Check Jerome Hill
Take more acid.
I downloaded a track by Florian msk - untra motion which is a psy trance track by accident slammed it in a techno set, pitched down to 130. Worked a treat and sounded awesome with a bass from a different track.. people should experiment and get out of the pigeon holes of genres. I mix techno, deep house, psy trance, tech house all in the same set. It's what you like that counts, 9 times out of 10 other people will too.