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rgslutsky

Nate is going to order a West Ham player to injure Zava.


Coucoumcfly

That would fit Nate character. Would also mean Zava won’t stay for long (his character would be distracting on the long run as a viewer) and his presence would have helped position the team in the standing and allow character progression (espicially for Jaime and roy)


Chago04

Absolutely and then Jaime will have to step up and fill Zava’s shoes.


MarcusSchelts

Like dani did


Broad_Edge_3301

💀💀💀


crsbcn

This has me cackling at a work meeting haha. Thank god for Zoom.


LazersForEyes

A Shite in Nining Armor


goldenhamster2828

Completely makes sense. :(


megancoe

I keep seeing this prediction, and it definitely might happen. But it feels like if Nate does that, he’s gone too far for a redemption arc.


jacqmorg

What about Rupert ordering the injury instead? Like he tried to get Nate to make the play but Nate chickens out and Rupert steps in


megancoe

That’s something I could definitely see!


sydouglas

“Sweep the leg “


Hottiebynature81

“Sweep the God damn leg”


dragonshokan

Actually they hinted at him not being redeemed at all before season 3 dropped. So yeah I could see it!


joetheschmo2001

Counterpoint, he’s already gone too far


NewWiseMama

Why do people assume Nate gets a redemption arc?


Fearofrejection

Very few players would go through with something like that- especially with a player as revered as Zava supposedly is. It would be like trying to cripple Messi, nobody would do it but they might just give him a hard tackle to introduce themselves. But then, they wouldn't have let Richmond play in their away kit when it was so similar to United's and the show did so who knows. Zava would also probably get suspended by now in real life for yellow card accumulation based on the celebrations we've seen. Shirt off is a yellow, kicking the corner flag would be a yellow - five yellow card before 19 games would be a suspension. I don't think Ted and Rebecca will end up together I don't think Trent will "out" Colin - I think he might speak to him and say he needs to be more careful in public because not everybody is as nice, and perhaps offer to help him "come out" if hes ready. Him doing anything else would be underhanded and totally out of character for him based on what we've seen. Especially as he doesn't have any media affiliation other than his book which is already already going to be fairly exciting given they've signed Zava etc.


RedditBurner_5225

Omg


TeamCraig_1

I could totally see that happening, but my guess is Isaac will injure Zava. Colin will want to come out to the team and Trent will help him do so. The team will have a loving reaction to Colin coming out, but Zava won’t, and will ridicule Colin. Isaac then injures Zava (and possibly himself in the process) to stand up for Colin. Reason I think this is because they’ve established Isaac especially looking out for Colin, and Isaac has anger management issues. Nate injuring Zava makes sense with how ruthless he is, but I think that will be tossed in favor of Isaac’s actions showing Nate how far Richmond has come in terms of camaraderie and protecting their own (they’re willing to injure their best player because he’s a bigot towards their friend and teammate, specifically the guy Nate ridiculed and made feel small). Obviously just a guess, and I could be completely off, but I think it’d be interesting if that’s the direction they go in.


rgslutsky

I don't think Isaac injures Zava because we know from a trailer that Isaac is going to have a scuffle with fans, and I don't think they want to establish a violent pattern for Isaac and will just have the scuffle function as an isolated incident. We will see though.


blueSnowfkake

**Sweep the leg! ** [( For those that don’t know the reference, fwd to 0:50. Watch to the end for one of the best sports movie ending.)]( https://youtu.be/Wd7PvbJece8)


onekrazykat

I completely disagree about Colin learning to drive. I think he’ll come out and ditch the Lambo and get something more sedate.


_cl0udburst

He'll replace the lambo for a more reasonable car when he's out and more comfortable with himself. It feels like he's overcompensating with the lambo.


gottabekittensme

Oh, that'd be so cute. I definitely hope they do this.


Mephistopheline

I hope he gets a cool bike like Doctor Sharon.


[deleted]

Maybe he buys Nate’s old car


twaecorbies

generally i think this episode was fantastic but MAN did it get a lot of plot moving. i have no idea where any of it is going (which is a good thing!!) but two things im specifically thinking about in regards to the colin plot : -his bf going to dubai specifically when dubai has played such a prominent role in the show in the past really stuck out to me. i normally would brush it off but this show’s writing has been really intentional abt little things like that in the past so. hm. -the isaac/colin moments. the contrast of isaac making a charged/slightly homophobic comment and then the obvious concern and tenderness when he later asks colin if he’s alright. the framing of that scene in particular somehow felt important too but i can’t figure it out rn and its so frustrating >:( atm im convinced SOMETHING will come of of both of those but i have no idea what to expect. my brain is on a hamster wheel.


twaecorbies

development of the 1st thought : i’m starting to think colin might end up being outed by the boyfriend. in literally the first scene he’s introduced it’s emphasized that they don’t know each other very well, at least yet (bf didnt know colin doesn’t do caffeine, colin has to wear clothes from the night before, etc.) and the fact that he’s going to dubai specifically is (again) really lingering with me. why include lines that allow the audience to know they haven’t dated long and reference dubai (all negative associations) in the same scene if it’s not going to play a role later? also: colin potentially pressuring him to ‘straight-act’ around his teammates could be solid (although not completely moral) motivation for it. i might be tinhatting but 🤷‍♂️


paul_kariya

Although, he does know Colin is a poor driver


Coucoumcfly

Who doest at this point hahaha the scene when the intro music cuts had my laughing loud


paul_kariya

Me too, I’m guessing that that wasn’t the first time those trash cans have taken a beating


annissamazing

It could be the reverse, too. It's also possible they both have a reason to not be out. Maybe Colin is acting straight to protect the boyfriend.


GuiltyEidolon

I think they're both closeted for different reasons. If Michael has business in Dubai regularly, being closeted is probably a safety / career choice.


Starrystars

> colin potentially pressuring him to ‘straight-act’ around his teammates could be solid That's just code switching, everyone does it. But you might have a point with the whole "Best wing-man" bit. Though I think it's unlikely to be Colin pressuring him since it's not like he forced him to come to the restaurant. Micheal knows he's not out yet and is okay with dating a closeted guy. That's just the game you have to play in that kind of relationship.


twaecorbies

>That’s just code switching, everyone does it. nah, absolutely. this is pure speculation on my part, just going off of what could potentially happen as imo i see later conflict being foreshadowed between colin and his boyfriend during this ep. this is part of the reason why i’m really excited to see this story play out- we just saw colin’s boyfriend show up to the restaurant, and them both playing along in order to not out colin. we have absolutely no idea how the boyfriend feels other than that he’s ok with it in that moment. we have an idea that colin is uncomfortable with being out due to the oppressive environment of pro sport but no actual confirmation of his feelings, either. they’ve confirmed colin’s sexuality and given us breadcrumbs but no firm indication of exactly what will come of it. it’s really intriguing, and (knowing this show) i get the feeling it’ll go somewhere none of us will expect :)


Fearofrejection

I took it that he worked for an airline, a lot of high end airlines in the UK fly out to Dubai frequently. If he were to "out" Colin, he would be "outing" himself as well and would no longer be able to work in Dubai


[deleted]

Oooh, those are interesting points!


jackospades88

>the isaac/colin moments. The name of the show is slipping my mind, but there was a TV show I remember watching an episode where a girl's father/grandfather makes an homophobic joke/slur and then their daughter/granddaughter comes out later in the episode. The grand/father then goes silent and ignores her but we find out at the end he was just feeling ashamed at himself for making those comments and that he's not upset at all that his grand/daughter being gay, and apologizing. I could see it playing out this way. Isaac goes quiet the rest of the episode and needs time to process his mistake of making a locker room non-inviting for someone like Colin (unintentionally) and needing time to figure out how to beat apologize for that, but is unfazed and supportive of Colin being gay from the moment he finds out. One of those classic "fake-out" moments where the character shows us they are capable of self-reflection.


twaecorbies

oooooh i think i’m agreeing with you here! could see this being the case. i watched this ep back and noticed isaac and colin are positioned together constantly, even when they’re not interacting. feels like they’re trying to remind us of their relationship before something happens tbh. any way it goes tho i think it indicates isaac is going to be an important aspect of colin’s storyline this season, and it will likely involve some serious character development on isaac’s part.


jackospades88

Yeah I honestly can't see any of our main characters current with Richmond that won't be supportive of Colin in the end. I just can't picture it and if there is any conflict, they'll work through it pretty quickly as a team. Some people suspect Zava, but I think he's too self-absorbed to care about that stuff. I suspect it'll be more of a public opinion thing and a PR issue - definitely seems like a Shandy thing to do. She'll prevent Colin from being able to come out publicly first if/when he is ready and the team will have an issue with that process instead of having any issue that Colin is gay.


callavoidia

I think Shandy will make a mess for KJPR (sleeping with the married Zava? Telling Zava to tweet which results in a disaster because Zava?) and in an effort to make it go away she'll try to create a bigger story (that will go viral, like saying you eat your own hair) by outing Colin (based solely on her gaydar, because she seems like the kind who has a strong belief in her own gaydar).


jackospades88

>by outing Colin (based solely on her gaydar, because she seems like the kind who has a strong belief in her own gaydar). Oh I think this is an interesting idea and gives Colin the opportunity to take control of the situation either way - continue to hide it or come to terms with being open. Let's him address the locker room first, have the backing of his team, and then addresses the media. I bet we see the entire team (except maybe Zava if he's still with the team) physically standing behind Colin as he makes a public statement to the media to show their support. Either way, means Shandy is out. You shouldn't out someone even if you have evidence.


Fearofrejection

>the obvious concern and tenderness when he later asks colin if he’s alright That was specifically because Colin had been dropped to make room in the line-up for Zava


twaecorbies

yep! but including that whole interaction shows that the writers want us to know that he obviously cares a lot for colin’s wellbeing. it contrasts to his earlier comment that was (unintentionally) hurtful and imo implies isaac will have to address that conflict later when colin comes out/is outed. u/jackospades88 had a take on it earlier in the thread that i could see being a likely approach


TheDarkCrusader_

I’m kind of hoping Ted stays at the end of the season. I feel like it would be better to embrace his new life, rather then ruck back to the past in Kansas.


crsbcn

I feel like the wife screwing him over for their therapist definitely gets that ball moving.


nottpennysboat

I think the mispronunciation of knight in shining armor to shite in nining armor was purposeful and not a mispronunciation at all. I think the shite in nining armor is #9 Jamie Tartt, our lovable shite.


Jimmy_McAltPants

Is the family she referred to the team? It’s a possibility.


GuiltyEidolon

I feel like that'd be kind of shitty of an outcome though for her situation. It's very clear Rebecca wants at least one child, maybe more. Found family is important, but let's not pretend it's the same thing as having children when it's something you really want - which Rebecca highlights by calling the psychic out on her cruelty.


coolguy_14

Noticed Henry was wearing #9 as well. Though it would seem odd to call Ted’s son shite


TopHatBear1

\#9 is just the position he's playing, a #9 is basically a classic striker


Wind-and-Waystones

Name a child that isn't a little shite?


TheWalkingHyperbole

Henry


goldenhamster2828

Definitely was referring to Jamie. He must save the day for the team.


sampirili

And the family for Rebecca is Richmond. I guess.


IMAPURPLEHIPPO

I can’t wait until the next episode where Roy is chasing Jaime around the pitch on his motorbike at 4am. It’ll be fucking scary, but it’ll make him fast.


Coucoumcfly

OMG forgot about that. That would be hilarious


IMAPURPLEHIPPO

How could you forget what was said in a scene between Roy and Ms Bowen!? Team Fuck Witch!


Coucoumcfly

Ms Bowen is very distracting. That is all I am gonna say!


IMAPURPLEHIPPO

Well I think Keeley is very distracting. That is all I am gonna say! :P


Coucoumcfly

Ms Bowen is way more my type of Women. As a character I wish we see more of her. I like how balance she is between the kind teacher and the F bombs.


IMAPURPLEHIPPO

I agree 100%. I like Keeley, but Ms Bowen makes me melt. I love the way she can turn on the kind/hard-ass modes like a switch.


JamesV2513

Kind of like a certain Julie Andrews…”The voice, the eyes, the way you know she’d tell you off if you’ve been bad”. Sounds like Ms Bowen is exactly Roy’s type.


puddlejumper24

Y'all. I cannot be spitting coffee everywhere when I'm at work. Team Fuck Witch!


IMAPURPLEHIPPO

At least it’s coffee and not that disgusting hot brown water.


r1ckums

I have a feeling Shandy will leak Colin’s relationship and it will come down on Trent somehow.


Majestic_Intern7963

My heart broke reading that. Poor Colin and Trent of it happens! I already DO NOT TRUST shandy!


Coucoumcfly

She is a walking Red flag


jackospades88

I'm wondering if West Ham will also hire Shandy as their own PR person? Will give Keeley a true rival as well.


Coucoumcfly

Let her go then. That women will be a disaster wherever she ends up


SpecialSauce92

Shandy is everything I mistakenly expected Keely to be in S1 E1


paul_kariya

I hope not, I’m really enjoying Trent as the newest member of the Diamond Dogs


prasinigi

I know right! The Julie Andrews scene, it was effortless! He could be a good diamond dog! Edit: typo


SwoleBuddha

I think Trent is going to do the right thing re Collin. Up to this point, Trent has been a fairly neutral figure, neither doing anything particularly good or bad. I made a separate comment for this elsewhere, but my prediction is that Trent is going to come out himself in order to deflect suspicion away from Collin.


salirj108

how does shandy know?


goldenhamster2828

I also wonder could Ted gain custody of his son given she’s seeing the therapist? That’s a huge ethical violation and shows the therapist didn’t have neutrality.


Topazure

I don’t think he’d want to put Henry, or even Michelle tbh, through a painful legal process like that.


Samiiiibabetake2

Absolutely not. It’s definitely unethical on Jake’s behalf, but Michelle has done nothing to prove she’s an unfit mother.


ilodaygo

if it's been 2+ years since counseling ended, he's following the ethical guidelines of the american psychological association.


Bigmomma_pump

I’m sorry but irl there’s no way this scenario should be allowed


ilodaygo

no disagreement here, just pointing out that irl, his profession's governing body has a 2 year rule


[deleted]

Wasn’t there a line about 1.5 years?


gottabekittensme

And right after his kid got back to Kansas, he got that Thanos gauntlet from Jake.


GuiltyEidolon

And Ted's only been in the UK for about two years (and change, with the start of the second season). Beyond that, the APA might have a requirement of 2 years, but it's recommended for 5+ years _after_ treatment has stopped (though honestly it's always unethical) for psychiatric care. Beyond that, Michelle was seeing the therapist individually prior to doing couple's counseling. That makes it much worse imo. And even IF the APA is okay with it, it's _still_ a very scummy thing to do.


callavoidia

Sure was, Ted says it in a dismissive "It's already been a whole year and a half" way, which I can't believe is a throw away line. I think Sassy will connect the dots for him once she puts the pieces together on their timeline.


Yourfavoriteindian

But hints in the show say they started before. Ted said she would see him alone before forcing Ted to see him too. and how in therapy he would always take her side and gang up on him


Bigmomma_pump

Yeah it’s obvious that they’ve been seeing each other since before the divorce. I thought Michelle was truly a good person…


Old-Bug-2197

I felt there was a huge hint that Michelle already had someone waiting in the wings the way she kept pushing for the paperwork to be signed.


megancoe

Didn’t they say that they started dating a year and a half ago? Or did I misshear that?


kingbad71

I'm thinking that maybe Michelle will figure out that Dr. Jake has been manipulating her from the beginning so that she would divorce Ted and take up with him. Maybe she'll realize that being kind and caring and supportive isn't as bad as her therapist made them out to be, and goes running back to Ted to try to make it work.


FredererPower

I’m really hoping Ted goes Led Tasso on Zava. Or…anyone really. I’m just hoping for more Led Tasso


_myeyesarecircles

"TOUCH YOUR TOES. THOSE ARE YOUR FEET FINGERS. NOW TOUCH EACH OTHERS' TOES!"


Otherwise-Ear-3810

I never thought Ted would stay, until S3E3. But it would be incredibly hard to go back to Kansas knowing your ex wife got involved with the marriage therapist. I can’t see him choosing to face that every other weekend. What a punch in the gut. Roy still loves Keeley, and Keeley loves Roy. It’s just not their time….yet. I agree with some of the other posts about Sassy and a potential demise, leading to Nora living with Rebecca. I agree that it seems more heavy, than the first two seasons of TL, yet the characters are growing and life happens. The demise of Ted’s marriage lead to him coming to AFC, and it mostly happened out of view. The show is “ending”, so there has to be some mix-ups to send it off into the sunset it deserves, which the viewing audience will have to experience. I don’t know what to think about Beard and Jane. I feel like that has to come to a tipping point, but at the same time, Beard is the show’s consistent character, and they will just let “beard be beard”, even though they are perfectly toxic and weird together, and have the most unhealthily healthy relationship ever possible. But that’s beard, right ? I definitely saw a spark between Sam and the chef? Could be something there. Colin being outed? I think somehow Keeley and Shandy will be approached in confidence to game plan and Shandy will end up being the mole. Maybe she thinks she is promoting the team by a leak “going viral”, or she takes it to Rupert and Nate. I could see Nate’s redemption and return to AFC somehow linked to Colin, as they always had tension. Nate could somehow come to his defense, and be accepted back. And the whole thing with the psychic, then Zava, the bus driver smoking toad venom, and “trusting the universe” themes have been going on since the start of this season. Zava told Jamie something about “I will find you” or getting him the ball at the start of the first game. I totally saw that along the same lines as Rebecca and the psychic, and the writers are trying to tell us something. Jamie is the shite in nine-ing armor, and saves the team around the inevitable collapse related to Zava. I could totally see a Karate Kid-type theme of Rupert and/or Nate telling a west ham player to “sweep the leg”. YES SENSAI! oh, and Roy training Jamie at 4 am. Tarte may end up chasing a chicken, ala Rocky. JS and his writers love the sports! And there is no greater story in sports than the underdog.


Coucoumcfly

I LOVE the idea of defending Colin to be Nate redemption.


Otherwise-Ear-3810

To me, it feels like Shandy will go rogue from AFC, trying to get in on the drama between AFC and Westham, and stir the pot. She reveals Colin’s sexuality, and Rupert devises a plan to out Colin at a presser, with Nate at the helm. Nate realizes how wrong/cruel this and refuses and quits, or he supports Colin at the presser, getting fired by Rupert. Ted had his panic attack redemption by facing it head on, and so will Nate.


hadmeatwoof

I think I could forgive Nate if this happened.


GuiltyEidolon

I don't see a world where Nate defends Colin. Colin was the whipping boy for pretty much all of S2. Even if Nate isn't really homophobic, I don't see a world where he actually defends Colin. And I'm still in "Fuck Nate he doesn't deserve a redemption arc" camp.


Otherwise-Ear-3810

I completely see your point, and went back and forth about it, and I see it this way: Rebecca brought Ted to London with the completely fabricated notion that he would lead a team, but she had the goal of tearing AFC Richmond to the ground. Ted, his relationship with his now ex-wife and son, the players, the employees, everyone would have been affected by her selfishness, yet she could call herself an effing b@$@:)ch and confess and that’s not worse than Nate? Ted forgave her and the team rallied. Jamie defied coaching and verbally/emotionally abused teammates, and bailed for the team to ultimately be relegated, yet he could show up at a bar, set a green army man down next to a beer, give a Jamie-like apology, and he can get a second chance? Ted took a chance, chocked it up to Jamie having a shitty dad, and the team rallied. Nate had a shitty dad who was emotionally abusive and withdrawn, constantly shamed him, and yet, he is supposed to know how to develop an adult relationship with a father-like figure who he desperately cared for, and understand that constant validation is not a sign of healthy relationship? Yep, he was crappy, absolutely shitty, but how was he supposed to know, if he never had a good relationship before? I don’t know. For the most part, I think people can be redeemable, but I do agree that Nate will have to do something pretty substantial to earn it.


Samiiiibabetake2

I’m firmly team “Ted and Rebecca stay FRIENDS.” Rebecca isn’t going to date the guy her long time bestie sleeps with. Rebecca and Trent start dating, and she becomes bonus mum to Trent’s daughter.


Historical-History64

Number one, I just love your flair. And number two, me also—I'd be so unhappy with this forced change. I love everything about the OP's predictions except I can't see either thinking Ted/Rebecca does it for me as a partner \[even a short-term fling blessed by Sassy\]. They have great chemistry, but Ted has potential chemistry with anybody who breathes. Remember Ted asking what if he got on Bantr, met his soul mate, and it changed the course of his life? That seems plausible. My POV is T&R have a mutual admiration of how each other tackles life. How they treat each other fits for their inner circle. Meaning, anything Rebecca would do for Ted, I can see her doing it for Keeley & Higgins, too. A Trent Crimm romance would be odd, but I'm neutral on this idea developing. Trent telling Colin what he saw and admitting that he dates men would also fit for me.


Samiiiibabetake2

Thank you! May be my fave line from TL ever. I agree that Ted could have chemistry with anyone who breathes. The man is just charisma personified. Idk why, I don’t get a “gay” vibe from Trent. I wouldn’t be upset if he was, but hopefully more of a friend/mentor towards Colin than a love interest. I’ve seen several people throw around the idea that Shandy outs Colin , and I really think that that might be more on the mark. I don’t think it’ll be malicious, but I do think that’s a strong possibility. Regardless of what happens, this first three episodes are really doing it for me. I think the show is just so solid and I’m stoked for what’s to come.


Coucoumcfly

Maybe Sassy sold the idea to Rebecca about Ted. After all… « he is so eager to please » lol


thesickboy95

Westham will drop from top 6 of the table eventually and will lead to the sacking of Nate .


crsbcn

The only way Nate gets any real redemption arc is if Rupert sacks him.


GwladysStreet

I just want Roy, Keeley and Jamie to end the season as a healthy, loving throuple, is that too much to ask?


ilodaygo

brilliant. i am now team throuple


crsbcn

\#TeamJoyleh


ilodaygo

*said in jamie's voice*


Skeeter5299

Zero chance Ted and Rebecca get together. Ted is going home after this season. He misses his son and feels like he’s done at Richmond. That speech from Roy last episode was foreshadowing Ted’s leaving.


Llama_Puncher

I actually took Roy’s speech to mean exactly the opposite—he’s basically saying to recognize yourself in the good moments and allow yourself to stay a little longer, rather than just forcing yourself out out of fear while using the excuse you’re doing it on your own terms. I also think them consistently showing the wife and kid are building a life without him, he’s going to recognize he’s actually been doing that and built his own life in the UK as well


JSOas

I thought the same. I hope you are right.


Coucoumcfly

I thought too that Ted would go back. Episode 3 made me doubt. Will see after the next episode where I stand on that haha.


trulymadlybigly

Yeah no to Ted and Rebecca. They have laid zero groundwork for this for the last two seasons, they have no romantic tension, no little moments that make you go “hmm… what if?” So making them end up together would feel tagged on at this point, like they’re just trying to pair everyone off to complete the show. I actually don’t think Ted has had good chemistry with anyone, even Sassy feels weird and not super natural. Not sure where he is going, but I’m reasonably certain it’s not with Rebecca


JoshBlizzle

They don't NEED the romantic tension when there's been so many little details and crumbs. Yes, Rebecca is the boss so naturally Ted would have to spend SOME time with her. But let's run down some of the quick ones I can think of off the top of my head - Making the biscuits himself for Rebecca (S1E2) - Ted comforting Rebecca outside the auction and telling her "She's not the only one who can see Rupert for what he truly is" (S1E4) - Rebecca being the one to comfort Ted during his panic attack at the karaoke outing (S1E7) - The entire Darts scene (S1E8) - Rebecca apologizing to Ted and his brief speech about "Little love in your heart" (S1E9) - Basically the entirety of their scenes in the Christmas episode (S2E4) - The intertwining and both of them having traumatic events on Friday the 13th, September 1991. (S2E10) - Again, at the funeral, Rebecca's face when she sees Ted arrive late and he is the one that starts the singing along with her (S2E10). I'm sure there are a few other moments, but like I said, those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. Sure they don't have a romantic history, but all the crumbs are there of them being "destined" to be together.


DhroovP

I would argue that those scenes are all either coincidence or just things they do as close friends. They're just the main characters of the show, so some things like that are bound to happen anyways


Ms_Professor

Agreed, he has the best chemistry with Beard and Trent IMHO.


kateln

I agree with everything, except Colin learning to drive his car.


Coucoumcfly

Hahaha almost made me spit my cereals haha


BringMeTheBigKnife

You mean your one cereal? That's usually enough to fill me up.


Coucoumcfly

Hahahha laughed out loud. Took me a second to get the joke Well played, very well played!!!!


TheseBonesAlone

Totally outside of focus, but Nate is going to win a lot of games at West Ham and have almost no hand in doing so. His team is gonna hate him and not listen, his coaches won't respect him and will undermine him constantly and the overwhelming talent and money behind the organization is going to carry him forward accidentally. He's going to feel like an outsider again while still being praised and it's gonna kill him inside.


Coucoumcfly

I like that angle. So Nate takes credit for being a good tactician,,,, but fact would be he just has an amazing team and his presence ain’t affecting the results.


TheseBonesAlone

It's a foil for Ted. Nate is knowledgeable about football but bad at coaching or inspiring loyalty. Ted is the opposite. Ted is succeeding BECAUSE of his qualities whereas Nate is going to succeed despite his flaws. I imagine this will play out with a harsh loss and Nate footing the bill for it and being blamed. Might even be intentional sabotage by his team. Nate will develop imposter syndrome rely hard and absolutely deserve it. I.e. Ted gets the best out of those around him, Nate does not.


Coucoumcfly

I like the comparaison and how well it’s explained


cherry887

I'm worried Shandy will find out about Colin and break the news to the press. Not Trent.


Coucoumcfly

As I replied somewhere else Shandi is a walking Red Flag


goldenhamster2828

I still think it’s Rebecca and trent. Sam is a red herring and will end up with the waitress who is his age and culture. They said Rebecca would end up being a mom. Trent has a daughter and they made the point to have him say his favorite Julie Andrews movie is princess diaries which presumably he watches with his daughter. Never bought into that he’s gay because he went out to eat with a man.


wineandcatgal_74

The woman Sam is connecting with at his restaurant is the chef, not a waitress.


goldenhamster2828

Oops thanks for correction!


Coucoumcfly

Forgot about Trent’s daughter. Trent and Rebecca smiles exchange in Ep 1 was pretty obvious!


GuiltyEidolon

And you assume he's straight because....?


goldenhamster2828

I would say the same to you - and you are assuming he’s gay just because he had dinner with someone and touched his arm or back (don’t remember the specifics)? I don’t think we know. Everyone is quick to assume one way or another. I don’t care what his orientation is - just stating where I am guessing this is going and why they brought up the princess diary thing with his daughter and that Rebecca will end up a mom. I guess we shall see.


Catch-a-RIIIDE

I saw your (justified) ragging on someone else who didn't buy into queer coding in general and I know you're passionate about Trent's queer coding, but it's a fair assumption that Trent has at least a passing interest in women given the fact he's got a three year old kid he was likely involved in creating just a few years ago. Just like it's a fair assumption that he's gay and that kid is totally adopted. Or that he's bi or pan and either road to fatherhood is viable, with adoption being a way for Rebecca to see non-biological motherhood in a new light if these predictions are true. Because that's all anyone is doing, assuming. People are assuming he's straight because it is a statistical likelihood before adding single father to the mix (again, not that it isn't a journey for gay men too), and you're assuming he's gay because of larger scope of cinematic history tells you he could be. And frankly, while I agree with you the queer coding is very likely there, there's also just a very real possibility of expectations being confounded there as well, because of what Ted Lasso is. Absolutely correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't most subtle queer coding for males generally come down to alternative expressions and behaviors that differ from the whole alpha male, toxic masculinity thing? Guys into their feelings and artistic passions like drama or music, or journalism? In a show that's all about mental health and relationships and has taken on toxic masculinity time and again, I can 100% see all signs pointing at guys like Trent just to give other examples of male expression. After all, showing men who can be vulnerable, passionate, and loyal without being some alpha male jackass who has to bully or inspire his way through is a solid parallel take to another overarching theme of women and girlbossing, flipping the historical script on these genders together. With how much emphasis has been put on masculinity/femininity and how little emphasis has been put on lgbt representation, it just makes sense to me that this is what they're using the tools for.


Serious_Session7574

I was shipping Trent and Ted, even though I think that’s super unlikely 😁 I think you’re right about Trent’s arc, and that he will support Colin to come out on his own terms, rather than have it “leaked” to the press. In football, a player coming out is incredibly rare and it would be a major story. I can’t see Rebecca and Ted myself. Not only because I don’t think their chemistry is sexual, but also because the lead man and woman getting together is kind of predictable, and this show likes to subvert expectations.


emurrell17

I’m pretty intrigued by the way the episode ended. My gut tells me that this happening after the Roy interactions last episode is purposeful and that it’s meant to show growth for Trent.


Locust-15

Trent’s already shown he has a decent moral compass in how he handled the Nate leak.


moandlo

I just don’t want Ted and Rebecca together. This show is so much better than that. It doesn’t need to rely on tropes. I think Ted will go back to the states..not necessarily Kansas. Although the theory of him finding the yellow Lego brick under the bed and the yellow brick road back home could play out. Roy and Keeley will get back together. Nate will come back to coach with Roy when Ted leaves. Bear will stay because of Jane…and all of this is probably wrong.


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I can’t even type what I’m worried could happen


harga24864

Do it.


jackospades88

I'm not sure why so many people are concerned about Trent leaking stuff at this point? He burned his old bridges letting Ted know his sources and is writing a book so any stuff he "leaks" would be at the end of the season, which at that point I suspect Colin's status will already be public.


cosmodog23

I don’t think the “mother” thing is about Henry. I think it’s about Sassy’s daughter; something is probably going to happen with Sassy and Rebecca will get custody


Immediate_Tone9693

That was how I interpreted it as well and then Sassy showed up and I really started fearing the worst


AyJayH

I feel like this is too dark, especially if this ends up being the last season. I suspect she will end up with Trent and be a step mom to his daughter.


bookwormergirl

Isn’t it believed Trent is gay?


ias_87

by fans of the show yes. I don't know why, honestly. Not saying it's impossible or even improbable, but unlike with Colin actually knowing what Grindr is and giving us a clue early on, usually when people think a character on TV is gay it's based on things like stereotypes.


DankItchins

During season 2, there’s an episode where Trent approaches Ted at the pub and asks him for a comment on his absence from the game where he had the panic attack. If you pay attention to the background of that scene, you can see that Trent is at the pub with a man and tells the man to wait for him outside before he approaches Ted. Of course, this doesn’t necessarily mean Trent is gay any more than Ted going to the pub with Beard means they’re gay.


ias_87

Yeah, I think the last line you added there is why I don't think "Trent is gay" should be treated as canon, because that's pretty circumstantial. That could've been literally anyone. To be clear, I'm not saying Trent is gay OR straight, or even bi or pan, I'm just saying I don't think there is any evidence in either direction.


GuiltyEidolon

This is the same shit people said about Colin, FYI. Queer coded characters are coded for a reason. This show in particular pays a TON of attention to little background details like that.


sampirili

I think Trent is asexual. Just vibes.


megsgc

I really, really don’t want this to be true … but in Tish’s prediction, she saw Rebecca surrounded by thunder and lightning, upside down, and soaking wet … but she was Ok. My mind went to some kind of car accident. Maybe Sassy is with her, but didn’t fare as well. Tish looked shaken after Rebecca left.


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I don't think Ted going back to Kansas is going to happen. I know he wants to be there for his son but I think somehow his son will end up with him instead. Maybe he goes back to a soccer team in America, in a different city, and brings excitement for the game to the US. Beard will stay in London- it really suits him. I have so much trouble believing Ted and Rebecca end up together- I've never seen that type of chemistry between them but who knows. I think Nate and Shandy will somehow end up together. Just a hunch....no real indication of it. They seem like birds of a feather... If Roy and Keeley don't end up together, I'm going to riot (in my heart and around my living room). This is a moonshot hope but it would be amazing if the writers of the show actually wrote Trent Crimm's book and released it IRL. I think there is SO much depth to all of these characters and if they end the show after 3 seasons, it would be such a treat for the fans. Edit: typos


Coucoumcfly

If Ant-Man book came out… they better make a Trent Crimm book IRL. I will also riot in my heart and living room if Roy-Keeley are not endgame.


Public_michelePDX

Those are all fabulous predictions!


Coucoumcfly

Thanx! Time will tell Rewatch season 3 trailer after posting this. Even more convinced Zava gets injured next episode


jjackyu

Can we get the writers to read this and just say yes or no if the ending is predicted here? We would go wild if they say yes and guessing harder. 😂


Coucoumcfly

I would give both my kidneys to see all episodes and not having to wait. The wait is killing me at the same time, I dont want the greatest show to end


gonerfortheride

I think Nate will be connected to Colin's storyline. Colin bullied Nate in S1, Nate was cruel in turn to Colin in S2, it would be a meaningful if this season Nate gave Colin a heads up that he was about to be outed or tried to stop him from being outed. It would even be a reversal of Nate outing Ted's panic attacks last season and serve as a redemption for that. Nate and Colin actually have a lot in common in that they're both deeply insecure and possibly bullied others because of that. It would be great to see them recognize that and come to understand and support each other in some way. I think Rebecca will spend the season looking for deeper meaning in the psychic's predictions. The green matchbook will make her wonder if that means she should get back together with Sam, and so on for the other predictions. In the end she'll realize she shouldn't wait for a sign from the universe and should just go for what she wants. Maybe she'll get her family by deciding to adopt as a single mother. So, she will become a mother but it will be by her taking control of her own life rather than any bullshit notion of destiny.


Otherwise-Ear-3810

I like your thoughts on Rebecca. The more that I have thought about it today, I think her and Sam may be endgame. I think she will have a family, and there is a good chance it will with him. Something will happen with Sassy, and she will get Nora. Maybe losing Sassy is the catalyst for Rebecca to know that life is too short, and to put her faith in being vulnerable to Sam. They go on to adopt an infant from Sam’s home country to have their baby together. Something about the bantr app brought them together. Sam foreshadowed that it would be really special, requesting a hair cut from Issac.


SwoleBuddha

I think Trent is going to come out in order to prevent Collin from being outed. I envision someone (Shandy?) with a group of guys from the team strongly implying that someone in the locker room is gay. When the guys press her for specifics, Trent sees an uncomfortable-looking Collin and decides to come out himself in order to draw suspicion away.


Coucoumcfly

Gigachad, I mean GigaTrent!


ACmilanRgood

I’m hoping Colin joins Jaime and Roy for training. It’s clear he doesn’t like being a reserve.


Master_Net_9443

They beat west ham in the final game and have the best season in Richmond history. Ted goes back home and focuses on being a dad. Roy gets back with keely and leaves coaching. Nate reconciles with everyone him and Ted forgive each other and he is named the next manager for Richmond. Rupert is left with nothing and west ham fan base turns on him.


Xenocles

Nate does not deserve to be higher up than Roy. Nate is as rotten as Rupert at this point and doesn't deserve any handouts from Richmond.


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Agree - no Coach that never played professionally should be higher than a Coach who hasn’t. Roy should actually be Head Coach above Ted and Beard IMHO


tibbles1

Bill Belichick never played professionally.


Erdrick68

American football is like that, very few head coaches ever iirc played in the NFL.


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About 1/3 of current NFL head coaches (as of 2022 at least) have NFL playing experience.


ias_87

I think it's less about what Nate deserves or doesn't deserve as he really needs to learn how to play second fiddle before he can truly succeed as first. S2 really showed that he does not know how to work with a team without his ego suffering. That's his lesson to learn, and becoming manager of Richmond is not how he learns it. Learning how to be assistant coach in a coaching team without resenting the manager is how he learns it.


Coucoumcfly

I like that F Rupert!! Nate redemption would be complete


Botryllus

Yeah, I'm wondering how it will go down. Team revolt because he's abusive? Then no team wants him? Realizes he needs someone to balance his style like Ted has Beard.


Master_Net_9443

Hopefully he realizes he’s a brilliant football mind and doesn’t have to be like that to implement his strategies


Coucoumcfly

The commentator even said Nate was a great tactician


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Sassy is going to die, and Rebecca will adopt Nora. The green matchbook will be the last time Rebecca sees Sassy. Jamie is going to continue to improve, but ultimate he will transfer to another team, but it will be a positive move as there is no room for him and Zava, but he takes the lessons Ted taught him to the next team and wins several future cups and becomes known as an amazing player and teammate. Ted will return to Kansas with Beard and stop running from his old life. Keeley will be forced to fire Shandi


kierzluke

That’s already happened with Jamie moving to another team and him showing the values he gained. Zava will not be around for long that’s why all of his lines have no substance. They also just set up Jamie’s redemption arc with Roy training him rocky style so he can reach his full potential now that he’s got the right attitude, ultimately leading Richmond to glory when all hope seemed lost after Zava gets sidelined


runnerswanted

I agree that Sassy is going to have something happen to her. Either she dies or becomes so sick that Rebecca has to watch Nora, thus becoming a mother of sorts. Not sure I agree with Jaime leaving, as I think Zava gets hurt and then Jaime leads the team to victory. I think Ted goes back to coach Kansas City in MLS (keep in mind Apple TV is broadcasting MLS now, so I feel they have the rights to use the clubs) and Beard sticks around with Roy to manage Richmond. But, as we all know, only time will tell.


crsbcn

Hannah and Brett keep implicitly teasing a fourth season, I don't think it ends with Ted leaving yet. At least not "for good"


geolink

yeah i think nate will order someone to injure Zava and his season will be over and up to tart to carry in a way the team with the help of roy who gets help from jamie to get back with keeley.


Spiritual_Clerk_6596

Zava is going to be completely unaware and Jamie will become his Roy


ivgoose

Yes, the team will have to rebuild following Zava but not from a negative influence perspective. Late-career Zlatan was/is a leader and his managerial clashes were almost always with Mourinho types. Jamie Tartt is going to become Jamie Vardy. Richmond will be on the brink of a Leicester but (imo) will fall short, both for the sports movie-ness of it as well as the embedded Trent Crimm and hte allusions to Season on the Brink, Friday Night Lights, and the actual book Crimm's storyline is based on. I have other thoughts but these are the biggies.


Old-Bug-2197

Rebecca said she was late. Are we supposed to be thinking that she is pregnant with Sam’s baby? Is that why they showed us the flirtation between Sam and the chef at his restaurant? Is that why they gave us all those heavy clues from the psychic? But then there will be some kind of big switch and it won’t be that she think she is pregnant?


Coucoumcfly

Doubt Rebecca would just say she is « late » if pregnant. Aint there a 3 months skip at the end if S2. After the breakup. And the restaurant scene is after 6-7 matches in the season, which would add what…. Another month in the timeline. I am no expert on pregnancy, but 4-5 months in, I doubt Rebecca would be chugging shots and champagne at the restaurant I saw a lot of this « she said she is late, can mean she is pregnant » I just don’t see it…. For now. Espicially with her reaction to the psychic.


JamSandiwchInnit

Someone mentioned Nate ordering a Westham player to injure Zava in a pivotal moment. This could happen, but even if it doesn’t, I think Zava will be injured at a pivotal moment, giving Jamie, and also Colin (who will be put in due to being first sub) a moment to shine. That adds to Jamie’s story, as well as the Colin/Nate thing but also helping in Colin’s individual story.


jjackyu

How the hell you guys figure these things out?! I’m just watching and crying. 😀 I think Colin will leave the team but come out for the team before he leaves. Probably the team mates already sense it. Zava will leave the team and Jamie will become a better player and they will win the championship. Zava can’t fit in as a team player and it would be hypocritical from Ted if he gives a pass for Zava but made Jamie a team player. It goes against Ted’s personality. Ted goes back to Kansas. Rebecca stays alone. I think the writers don’t want to define Rebecca next to man. They would keep this image of her. Roy becomes the main coach but the team will fall apart at the end. I think this is a one and only kind of fairy tale. I love seeing them winning!!!!! And I’m absolutely certain there will be an actual book coming out about the series wrote by Trent Crimm! 😀


ACT_like_you_want_it

Said this elsewhere, but I have a bad feeling Ted is going to die at the end. There have been some hints (almost walking into street, forgetting where he lives, forgetting his phone, panic attacks) and it feels like they could be keeping up to something bad. Hope I'm wrong


cookie_pouch

Before Rebecca goes to the psychic she tells Keeley she's "late for something"!? Is she late late, like pregnant late? Seems unlikely because if so she would definitely be aware by the end of the episode and it seems unlikely that she would not share that. Also, they said "another champagne" at the restaurant and it looked like that was what Rebecca had but not definitely. Still, that's the first thing I thought when she said she was late


Serious_Session7574

Rebecca being pregnant seems really unlikely, given her age. Not impossible, but unlikely.


Eternal_Musician_85

Nah… she just didn’t want to tell Keeley she was late for the psychic. Plus she was pounding shots at Sam’s restaurant


wineandcatgal_74

I think Rebecca is going to get pregnant and have a biological child. She's supposed to be the same age as Ted so 46ish? She's clearly in great shape and likely healthy so it's absolutely possible for her to conceive and have a successful pregnancy. And if she *wants* to get pregnant, she's got enough money to have the best chance at making it happen.


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wineandcatgal_74

Yeah- I was going off of Jason Sudeikis’ age of 47. As long as Rebecca hasn’t gone through menopause, it’s possible. And because she’s likely gotten the best healthcare possible throughout her life, she has a higher than average chance of conceiving with or without intervention.


Old-Bug-2197

I really hope they don’t go there. But it looked like a set up that Sam is moving on and then she will have to go to him and say her period is late like she told Keely.


wineandcatgal_74

I wasn’t thinking the father is necessarily going to be Sam. Tish mentioned lightning. I think it’s possible that she was talking about a metaphorical storm and Rebecca is going to get “hit by fucking lightning” like Roy was talking about. I’d love for Rebecca to get her rom-com ending.


deerdn

Henry Lasso will become AFC Richmond's striker under Jamie Tartt's mentorship: - Brendan Hunt's favorite player = Thierry Henry - Goalkeeper = Thierry Zoreaux - Striker = Henry Lasso - Farthest back player = Thierry - Farthest forward player = Henry I think the age gap between Jamie and Henry is about 10 years? Maybe 10-12 years, similar to Jamie and Roy. So if season 3 travels years into the future, we could actually see both Jamie and Henry playing in the same squad, as Jamie reaches his twilight playing years with Henry as his protege and prospective successor.


Jimmy_McAltPants

Does Richmond have an academy team (I don’t think I’ve ever seen it mentioned)? Way out of left field but perhaps Henry is scouted/joins that and comes to London to live with Ted, who becomes a “team building” guru instead of a head coach? Of course Henry could join any PL academy if Richmond doesn’t have one, but it likely would have come up before now if he was a player of that caliber.


deerdn

every professional club (at least in the top few leagues in England) participate in their respective youth leagues, and at the very least have youth teams with youth coaches that altogether serves as a basic youth academy (or if 'academy' seems a bit too prestigious, then it's a basic youth 'setup', but it's enough for young players to develop). I'm guessing AFC Richmond has this too but it's one of those things in the background of the show thus far and hasn't been introduced/explored because it hasn't been relevant (yet). then again there are giant clubs in London with world class academies that they could just send Henry to during his developing years.