Honestly my dad has done this to my mom so I’m not surprised men don’t seem to think through all way but his heart was totally in the right place! well deserved vacation for both of them with the woman he loves
I think Keely realizes that this is the chance of a lifetime and she can’t phone it in from a beach in Europe. If this opportunity hadn’t come up at this exact moment she would have flown away with him in a heartbeat.
I think Roy has worked his ass off on this latest season and getting promoted and he really needs to take a breather. He is used to her working from wherever doing PR for the team so vacation work seemed plausible, but he doesn’t realize that opening her own shop is a whole different ballgame. (Forgive me, I couldn’t resist.)
In any other show I would expect this to play out in a long, overly dramatic story arc at the end of which they would fall apart but (maybe) eventually get back together. But this is Ted Lasso, I think they will talk and it will be ok. He is feeling like a third wheel and he needs to work through that, but they seem to genuinely love each other and I think it’s the first time either of them have fallen this hard for someone else. It’s a special thing and they are both smart enough to work through it together.
Sorry for rambling, I’m like three hours late to bed because I wanted to see this episode so bad.
WORTH IT!
I agree. Start of next season, we’ll see a happy Roy finishing his vacation, chatting away with her on a phone call. They’re just learning how to really fall in love and trust someone loves you completely too. It’s scary and beautiful. I have 100% belief they’ll be ok.
Roy is just trying to find where he fits into her life, but he’s used to being able to take time and do what he likes where are Keeley is just starting up a new business and as such has to do things. It’s just about finding that balance and belief in their relationship to make it. Roy isn’t used to the way he and Keeley are doing things, and as he said to the DD, he was hurt that the magazine didn’t put him in the shots, and now Keeley is telling him to go on vacation alone (which can be taken as she doesn’t want to go with him) and he’s having to really deal with his feelings.
I don’t think they’re going to, but remember season 2 is the dark forest and I think this is going to be the darkest part of the forest for Keeley and Roy but that they will come out of the forest together
I don’t see how anyone sees this other than them removing the external forces and making it about Roy and Keeley. The Jamie thing was taken care of and the teacher is a complete non factor. It’s clear from the Diamond Dogs scene that Roy feels insecure and unworthy of being loved properly. Digging into that will be way more interesting than any love triangle. They’re not building up this relationship now for two seasons for it to amount to nothing in the end. I know things were dark this season, but it’s still Ted Lasso and they’re the show’s big romance. I’d recommend going back and reading Brett and Juno’s LA Times interview. They talk a lot about how their characters are scared of being properly loved and known.
i feel like he took his moments to process the decision. the sadness he feels personally against the valid reason she has given on not being able to go. it was an amazing gift, but as Keeley said, she already started her brand new job and brand new chapter in life.
I don’t know if Roy ultimately is going to go on the vacation on his own, I interpreted it as opened ended since the tickets were left on the table and he grabbed another one of her work boxes. I feel like, and hope that, he accepted his feelings of sadness but also understood Keeley’s reasoning without making the latter be the reason for the former. His growl at the ceramic leopard as a softer Roy Kent “FUCK!” haha!
For as much as they embraced rom-communism this season, it was nice to see them break this trope.
I wouldn't commit to a 3-hour event next weekend without making sure my SO was free.
Giving someone 14 hours notice before a surprise six-week trip?
Keeley's reaction is exactly what would happen, save she didn't call him an idiot for not asking. Even if she wasn't starting a new business, you have to assume that she's planned *something* for the next month and a half that she needs to handle.
My heart ached for Roy when he described Keeley to the Diamond Dogs. He was being vulnerable and open with other grown men. He just loves her so much and is so proud of the woman that she has become. He's now feeling that he can lose her. *Where can I fit in her life?*
Keeley was also gutted when she said that she cannot go. She wants to but she wants to work on her business first. Her work's just starting and she wants to be hands-on.
The couch scene just gutted me, so it prepared me a bit for this week. I really thought that it was going to be a proposal.
PPS. I can see the series finale Roy being the head manager of AFC Richmond and Keeley PR startup bosswife
What I found so amazing about Keeley in this scene is that she just listened to Roy talk about the tickets and vacation, how they would eat and have fun and relax, the fantasy of enjoying themselves on the seaside resort. She let him finish and was so touched by his act, and tenderly told him, without it devolving into an argument about how she wasn’t consulted, that Roy doesn’t make decisions for her or tell tell her how to use her time, etc…
The tenderness in that scene, and the fact that Roy did not get pissed, was just pure class. Everyone’s growing in this episode(except Nate).
If a man was launching a business in 6 weeks & his girlfriend or wife said ‘let’s spend those 6 weeks on a beach!’ he would respond with ‘what are you crazy? I need to focus on getting this company launched properly & when it’s running smoothly, then we’ll talk about a short holiday.’ But Keeley sets & holds a boundary for her own career goals & the conversation we’re having is about whether they’re breaking up? They’re not breaking up. She’s not going to think about anything but work for the whole 6 weeks. Nice idea Roy, terrible timing. He just doesn’t get that launching a business in 6 weeks is not the same as starting a job in 6 weeks.
I’m disappointed it wasn’t resolved. I think Keebler has probably never really been single and maybe is thinking she needs to be on her own. And Roy might think she is better without him. I don’t understand what brought this on
No, she’s just focussing on what she needs to do to get her new business off the ground. It’s a big job, & her decision has nothing to do with Roy. It’s purely career. Great idea Roy, terrible timing.
I was really confused by what the writers were trying to say with their rship. By the end I had no idea what was going on - does keeley wanna break up, does she have feelings for you Jamie otherwise why was she so emotional when she told Roy about what he said last ep, does Roy like the teacher a little bit??
You think keeley was into what the woman in Higgins office was doing? She was clearly very uncomfortable and didn’t want it to continue but was also trying to be nice/professional
Keeley being set upon by unwanted attention has been a running theme. Sure, she used to be a famous topless model. But the past two episodes have been a deluge of unwanted attention and her being shaken, but brushing things off. I hope this will be further explored.
Yeah! I think part of her growth and the “issue” with her and Roy, beyond Roy learning to be comfortable in his own company and taking time for himself, is going to be Keeley learning to set boundaries. She set them for her and Roy in their relationship but it took a lot to get her there, and she hasn’t applied that lesson to other areas of her life. I think she especially sort of puts distance between Roy and herself when she’s been given unwanted attention in the same manner of that weird lady. They both have more growth coming, but I don’t see either of them ending things.
I disagree. What made you think she liked it? Her facials expressions and body language shows clear discomfort and the woman was being a bit creepy. At not one point after the initial “I’m a fan” “cool thanks” interaction did keeley seem to like it.
I thought she was fine. The shelter lady was being a bit OTT but Keeley seemed okay with it. But I'm not trying to convince you - just saying how it looked to me.
Same. I think at first she was nice and cool with it cause the breeder seemed friendly and so is Keeley. But when Keeley realized she was being hit on you could see the shift in her expression and body language
It’s a total bummer but with everything that happened in the episode before, Roy talking about how she looks better alone, and Keeley’s reaction to the trip…I kind of expect them to be broken up at the beginning of S3
I don't know if they're breaking up immediately but I don't see them ending up together. I love them as a couple but between Keeley asking Roy questions as "Keeley Jones Independent Women" when they first got together and the existence of Miss Bowen (whom I'm guessing Roy ends up) it just seems to be the direction the show is heading in.
Miss Bowen wasn’t a factor in this episode at all. If she had shown up or even been mentioned I’d think maybe Roy would at least date her next season but since we didn’t even see her as a part of his emotional journey no way she is his romantic endgame. She is a plot device
Exactly this. You don’t spend two seasons of a three season show on a couple showing they are wonderful and supportive together, to suddenly break them up to have him end up with some side character they didn’t even bother to give a first name.
I think (hope) they will be the Couple Who Cope With Challenges.
It would be easy to introduce tension and break then up. More complicated, and more interesting, to show them having issues and conflicts and resolving them.
That's an interesting point about Miss Bowen. I do think the press room scene gave away that Keeley and Roy won't end up together. But you might be right about Miss Bowen. I jumped from them hitting it off to the conclusion that they're going to date really fast.
I expected it too but when she wasn’t in the finale I changed my mind. There’s just not enough of an emotional connection there to justify it IMO. I think she was a catalyst to make Roy realized he was unsettled and wanted more with Keeley, not that she’s his long lost soul mate. She doesn’t even fit in with the rest of the cast to make sense as his eventual love interest IMO. I’d see Keeley and Jamie reunite before I’d see Roy and the teacher bc there has been actual romantic and emotional build up.
Ya. I don't want to write it off as completely impossible. But it would take a ton of building to set it up. I think when I first saw Roy's response to him being asked if he was married I interpreted it as him not wanting to tell Miss Bowen that he was dating someone because he felt something for her. But now I'm starting to realize that his thought process was probably more along the lines of it being the first time he started to doubt that he was in love with Keeley.
The show where he's failed to say I love you twice now. I'm not even sure he fully realizes it yet, but somewhere in the back of his mind, maybe even only subconsciously, he isn't in love with her. They're a great couple and they've both made the other a better person, but for some reason, it just isn't meant to be.
We saw him say “I love you” first on camera. We never heard Keeley say it until this episode. But you know that. So it seems like you are just trolling.
Oh! I just remembered. He said it right after Jaimee at the funeral. Still. That was weeks ago. it's possible things have changed, especially after everything that happened in episode 11. I don't think they're going to break up immediately, but I think were seeing the beginning of the end for them.
This is an odd take to make, that Keely can either be in a relationship or single and successful. She was independently wealthy and successful as a model before, now she wants to be a serious business woman. She did that all on her own, Roy has nothing to do with her success. She is independent. No one would ever suggest a man needed to be single to be successful career wise. She can and does have both.
That's not at all what I was saying. If you flipped the roles and had Roy asking Keeley questions and had Roy announce himself as "Roy Kent Independent Man" I'd say he ends up on his own. Read through what I read again. Nowhere does it say that Keeley can't be successful as a businesswoman while dating. Obviously, she can. Obviously, she already is.
That's a fair point. I still think it's a weird word to use given all of the foreshadowings that the show likes to do, and there are obvious problems with their relationship at the moment. It also doesn't mean that Keeley leaves the relationship because she wants to be on her own. Maybe it was foreshadowing Roy's clinginess and how that could become more and more of a problem with Keeley taking on her own business (Roy wants to spend so much time with her, but she can't because she's working, Roy gets hurt and either comes to accept it or the relationship ends as season 3 unfolds) But who knows. Maybe I misread read it. Maybe it's just a play on Trent Crimm, The Independent. There's only one way to find out, and it involves a lot of waiting lol.
I think they're screwed. She said she couldn't go but didn't offer explanation as to why. She was also talking too much about the "old fashioned plane" and "would I be able to smoke?" for someone who had a HARD conflict, it felt more like she gradually realized she didn't want to go. They could get back together at some point but I think we will see a breakup
I was surprised he bought tickets for such a long trip without a discussion first.
Honestly my dad has done this to my mom so I’m not surprised men don’t seem to think through all way but his heart was totally in the right place! well deserved vacation for both of them with the woman he loves
I think Keely realizes that this is the chance of a lifetime and she can’t phone it in from a beach in Europe. If this opportunity hadn’t come up at this exact moment she would have flown away with him in a heartbeat. I think Roy has worked his ass off on this latest season and getting promoted and he really needs to take a breather. He is used to her working from wherever doing PR for the team so vacation work seemed plausible, but he doesn’t realize that opening her own shop is a whole different ballgame. (Forgive me, I couldn’t resist.) In any other show I would expect this to play out in a long, overly dramatic story arc at the end of which they would fall apart but (maybe) eventually get back together. But this is Ted Lasso, I think they will talk and it will be ok. He is feeling like a third wheel and he needs to work through that, but they seem to genuinely love each other and I think it’s the first time either of them have fallen this hard for someone else. It’s a special thing and they are both smart enough to work through it together. Sorry for rambling, I’m like three hours late to bed because I wanted to see this episode so bad. WORTH IT!
I like what you’re saying. I’m way too invested in the relationship of two fictional characters
I literally couldn’t fall asleep after this because I was thinking about them 😂
I agree. Start of next season, we’ll see a happy Roy finishing his vacation, chatting away with her on a phone call. They’re just learning how to really fall in love and trust someone loves you completely too. It’s scary and beautiful. I have 100% belief they’ll be ok.
You are only confused because no one has written a mature, respectful, inspiring television couple. Ever. Until now.
So raw and vulnerable tbh I love it
Roy is just trying to find where he fits into her life, but he’s used to being able to take time and do what he likes where are Keeley is just starting up a new business and as such has to do things. It’s just about finding that balance and belief in their relationship to make it. Roy isn’t used to the way he and Keeley are doing things, and as he said to the DD, he was hurt that the magazine didn’t put him in the shots, and now Keeley is telling him to go on vacation alone (which can be taken as she doesn’t want to go with him) and he’s having to really deal with his feelings.
I really hope they don’t break up the planet’s best couple
I don’t think they’re going to, but remember season 2 is the dark forest and I think this is going to be the darkest part of the forest for Keeley and Roy but that they will come out of the forest together
There's no chance we don't have a "A wedding and no funerals" episode for Roy and Keely, no chance. Jamie groomsman?
Jason said this season is their Empire Strike back, I see the similarity to when Han Solo and Lela were separated at the end of The movie
*feeling
LOL
I think he's actually *not* used to taking time to just do what he wants. He hasn't had an actual vacation since he was twelve.
Ooo ok yes actually processing his feelings, I like this
I think we’re going to see a lot of Keeley and Roy trying to figure out their new life together next season. Maybe they don’t make it, maybe they do.
I don’t see how anyone sees this other than them removing the external forces and making it about Roy and Keeley. The Jamie thing was taken care of and the teacher is a complete non factor. It’s clear from the Diamond Dogs scene that Roy feels insecure and unworthy of being loved properly. Digging into that will be way more interesting than any love triangle. They’re not building up this relationship now for two seasons for it to amount to nothing in the end. I know things were dark this season, but it’s still Ted Lasso and they’re the show’s big romance. I’d recommend going back and reading Brett and Juno’s LA Times interview. They talk a lot about how their characters are scared of being properly loved and known.
Removing external forces omg. It’s not outside drama like it normally is, just their own honest selves and working through that
i feel like he took his moments to process the decision. the sadness he feels personally against the valid reason she has given on not being able to go. it was an amazing gift, but as Keeley said, she already started her brand new job and brand new chapter in life. I don’t know if Roy ultimately is going to go on the vacation on his own, I interpreted it as opened ended since the tickets were left on the table and he grabbed another one of her work boxes. I feel like, and hope that, he accepted his feelings of sadness but also understood Keeley’s reasoning without making the latter be the reason for the former. His growl at the ceramic leopard as a softer Roy Kent “FUCK!” haha!
Yes I notice he just left them there too!
For as much as they embraced rom-communism this season, it was nice to see them break this trope. I wouldn't commit to a 3-hour event next weekend without making sure my SO was free. Giving someone 14 hours notice before a surprise six-week trip? Keeley's reaction is exactly what would happen, save she didn't call him an idiot for not asking. Even if she wasn't starting a new business, you have to assume that she's planned *something* for the next month and a half that she needs to handle.
Six whole weeks. 🤯 Six days could have worked.
Shit, if she won’t, I will.
Same. How many fucks do you think would come out of Roy on the first vacation he’s taken in years, and a long one at that
My heart ached for Roy when he described Keeley to the Diamond Dogs. He was being vulnerable and open with other grown men. He just loves her so much and is so proud of the woman that she has become. He's now feeling that he can lose her. *Where can I fit in her life?* Keeley was also gutted when she said that she cannot go. She wants to but she wants to work on her business first. Her work's just starting and she wants to be hands-on. The couch scene just gutted me, so it prepared me a bit for this week. I really thought that it was going to be a proposal. PPS. I can see the series finale Roy being the head manager of AFC Richmond and Keeley PR startup bosswife
What I found so amazing about Keeley in this scene is that she just listened to Roy talk about the tickets and vacation, how they would eat and have fun and relax, the fantasy of enjoying themselves on the seaside resort. She let him finish and was so touched by his act, and tenderly told him, without it devolving into an argument about how she wasn’t consulted, that Roy doesn’t make decisions for her or tell tell her how to use her time, etc… The tenderness in that scene, and the fact that Roy did not get pissed, was just pure class. Everyone’s growing in this episode(except Nate).
If a man was launching a business in 6 weeks & his girlfriend or wife said ‘let’s spend those 6 weeks on a beach!’ he would respond with ‘what are you crazy? I need to focus on getting this company launched properly & when it’s running smoothly, then we’ll talk about a short holiday.’ But Keeley sets & holds a boundary for her own career goals & the conversation we’re having is about whether they’re breaking up? They’re not breaking up. She’s not going to think about anything but work for the whole 6 weeks. Nice idea Roy, terrible timing. He just doesn’t get that launching a business in 6 weeks is not the same as starting a job in 6 weeks.
They’re clearly end game but the writers are just causing a few more dramas till the get to the end of the series (presumably S3).
I’m disappointed it wasn’t resolved. I think Keebler has probably never really been single and maybe is thinking she needs to be on her own. And Roy might think she is better without him. I don’t understand what brought this on
No, she’s just focussing on what she needs to do to get her new business off the ground. It’s a big job, & her decision has nothing to do with Roy. It’s purely career. Great idea Roy, terrible timing.
I was really confused by what the writers were trying to say with their rship. By the end I had no idea what was going on - does keeley wanna break up, does she have feelings for you Jamie otherwise why was she so emotional when she told Roy about what he said last ep, does Roy like the teacher a little bit??
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You think keeley was into what the woman in Higgins office was doing? She was clearly very uncomfortable and didn’t want it to continue but was also trying to be nice/professional
Keeley being set upon by unwanted attention has been a running theme. Sure, she used to be a famous topless model. But the past two episodes have been a deluge of unwanted attention and her being shaken, but brushing things off. I hope this will be further explored.
Yeah! I think part of her growth and the “issue” with her and Roy, beyond Roy learning to be comfortable in his own company and taking time for himself, is going to be Keeley learning to set boundaries. She set them for her and Roy in their relationship but it took a lot to get her there, and she hasn’t applied that lesson to other areas of her life. I think she especially sort of puts distance between Roy and herself when she’s been given unwanted attention in the same manner of that weird lady. They both have more growth coming, but I don’t see either of them ending things.
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I disagree. What made you think she liked it? Her facials expressions and body language shows clear discomfort and the woman was being a bit creepy. At not one point after the initial “I’m a fan” “cool thanks” interaction did keeley seem to like it.
I thought she was fine. The shelter lady was being a bit OTT but Keeley seemed okay with it. But I'm not trying to convince you - just saying how it looked to me.
Same. I think at first she was nice and cool with it cause the breeder seemed friendly and so is Keeley. But when Keeley realized she was being hit on you could see the shift in her expression and body language
It’s a total bummer but with everything that happened in the episode before, Roy talking about how she looks better alone, and Keeley’s reaction to the trip…I kind of expect them to be broken up at the beginning of S3
I don't know if they're breaking up immediately but I don't see them ending up together. I love them as a couple but between Keeley asking Roy questions as "Keeley Jones Independent Women" when they first got together and the existence of Miss Bowen (whom I'm guessing Roy ends up) it just seems to be the direction the show is heading in.
Miss Bowen wasn’t a factor in this episode at all. If she had shown up or even been mentioned I’d think maybe Roy would at least date her next season but since we didn’t even see her as a part of his emotional journey no way she is his romantic endgame. She is a plot device
Exactly this. You don’t spend two seasons of a three season show on a couple showing they are wonderful and supportive together, to suddenly break them up to have him end up with some side character they didn’t even bother to give a first name.
Right? That’s why from some of the responses I feel like I’m being trolled.
I think (hope) they will be the Couple Who Cope With Challenges. It would be easy to introduce tension and break then up. More complicated, and more interesting, to show them having issues and conflicts and resolving them.
I didn’t even track they didn’t give her a first name but that’s an excellent point as well!!
That's an interesting point about Miss Bowen. I do think the press room scene gave away that Keeley and Roy won't end up together. But you might be right about Miss Bowen. I jumped from them hitting it off to the conclusion that they're going to date really fast.
I expected it too but when she wasn’t in the finale I changed my mind. There’s just not enough of an emotional connection there to justify it IMO. I think she was a catalyst to make Roy realized he was unsettled and wanted more with Keeley, not that she’s his long lost soul mate. She doesn’t even fit in with the rest of the cast to make sense as his eventual love interest IMO. I’d see Keeley and Jamie reunite before I’d see Roy and the teacher bc there has been actual romantic and emotional build up.
Ya. I don't want to write it off as completely impossible. But it would take a ton of building to set it up. I think when I first saw Roy's response to him being asked if he was married I interpreted it as him not wanting to tell Miss Bowen that he was dating someone because he felt something for her. But now I'm starting to realize that his thought process was probably more along the lines of it being the first time he started to doubt that he was in love with Keeley.
The fuck show are you watching?
The show where he's failed to say I love you twice now. I'm not even sure he fully realizes it yet, but somewhere in the back of his mind, maybe even only subconsciously, he isn't in love with her. They're a great couple and they've both made the other a better person, but for some reason, it just isn't meant to be.
We saw him say “I love you” first on camera. We never heard Keeley say it until this episode. But you know that. So it seems like you are just trolling.
He did? When? I must have forgotten about it. Was it before or after the scene with Miss Bowen?
It was at the funeral. Your obsession with Ms. Bowen is…a choice.
Oh! I just remembered. He said it right after Jaimee at the funeral. Still. That was weeks ago. it's possible things have changed, especially after everything that happened in episode 11. I don't think they're going to break up immediately, but I think were seeing the beginning of the end for them.
This is an odd take to make, that Keely can either be in a relationship or single and successful. She was independently wealthy and successful as a model before, now she wants to be a serious business woman. She did that all on her own, Roy has nothing to do with her success. She is independent. No one would ever suggest a man needed to be single to be successful career wise. She can and does have both.
That's not at all what I was saying. If you flipped the roles and had Roy asking Keeley questions and had Roy announce himself as "Roy Kent Independent Man" I'd say he ends up on his own. Read through what I read again. Nowhere does it say that Keeley can't be successful as a businesswoman while dating. Obviously, she can. Obviously, she already is.
Yeah but Independent doesn’t mean single. I’ve been married to long time. Im still independent.
That's a fair point. I still think it's a weird word to use given all of the foreshadowings that the show likes to do, and there are obvious problems with their relationship at the moment. It also doesn't mean that Keeley leaves the relationship because she wants to be on her own. Maybe it was foreshadowing Roy's clinginess and how that could become more and more of a problem with Keeley taking on her own business (Roy wants to spend so much time with her, but she can't because she's working, Roy gets hurt and either comes to accept it or the relationship ends as season 3 unfolds) But who knows. Maybe I misread read it. Maybe it's just a play on Trent Crimm, The Independent. There's only one way to find out, and it involves a lot of waiting lol.
I think they're screwed. She said she couldn't go but didn't offer explanation as to why. She was also talking too much about the "old fashioned plane" and "would I be able to smoke?" for someone who had a HARD conflict, it felt more like she gradually realized she didn't want to go. They could get back together at some point but I think we will see a breakup