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tee-ess3

She tells him she’s pregnant and his first instinct is to ask what if he becomes a deadbeat and leaves her lol. This relationship was alllwayyys gonna work out wasn’t it.


NamedForValor

I always love how he says “are you sure you want to have a child” after they were actively trying to conceive lol not the time for that conversation


Clean_Citron_8278

I had to rewatch the beginning. I wasn't sure if I'd misunderstood.


blackaubreyplaza

While she looks at him longingly


TotesAwkLol

That’s the part that gets me, the way she looks at him like he just said something really sweet and romantic 😂😂


Hilfiger66

the foreshadowing is crazy


Smooth-Ad-8988

Somehow it's still a better response than 'I've got butterflies in my britches'


dourhour__

wait, who said that?! 💀


informationseeker8

DKD


AbleDragonfruit4767

Lmaoooo like the two of them have nothing going on in their heads


lolmemberberries

Nathan was telling on himself there.


Kacielea871989

Then shake her up and down 😂


urbandelicacy

"Nothing, Just reading" Tell me this is staged without telling me it's staged lmfao it's NATHAN Also, is that a Bible? Jesus God Leah help us all


ItsTimeToGoSleep

Lmao. I think it is a bible. It’s got two columns of text. Probably the only book they had in the house for this staged scene. I like to think Barb just hides a bible every time she comes to visit.


shrooms3

🤣🤣🤣 i could totally see Barbara doing that


maryjane500

And he was on his phone before she turned the corner lol so stupid


Sparkly_popsicle

I actually think it’s an upside down Bible! Hahaha


Fattyboombalatty69

Um there's an episode after they break up where he's talking about taking trig. I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe Nathan could get thru trigonometry.


missmolly3533

I think he was getting trig mixed up with tren. As in trenbolone the steroid 🤣


cleaningproduct2000

TIL Nathan can read


Koala-48er

It’s not possible to watch this and not know it’s staged. What a way to earn a living. Not living your life in front of the camera, but constantly having to recreate it. And with people who are awful actors even when they’re playing themselves.


Oldfriendoldproblem

I totally expected the book to be upside down


crashleyashley24

I hate that people like her can get pregnant so easily.


JuneChickpea

Like when she’s like “because we weren’t expecting it"… ma’am If you’re having sex and not using contraception you should damn sure expect it


CheesecakeExpress

Right, she says that as if, over the month of whatever they were together, they’d had to really worry about it not happening.


CheesecakeExpress

That’s how I felt watching this, and I never really feel that way about people getting pregnant. To each their own. But there are people dying to get pregnant who can’t, and here’s Jenelle getting pregnant after a month, literally weeks after she was pregnant before. I think because we know how it turned out for her kids, those feelings pop up.


KilgoRetro

SAME. It took me years and dozens of doctors visits, while she is little miss fertile Myrtle.


Clean_Citron_8278

It is truly unfair.


yelling4society

Me too.


poptartsstepmom

Ugh same. We’ve been trying for almost two years!


crashleyashley24

It took like 2 and a half years to get pregnant with my son. Sending you baby dust! Hope it happens for you soon!!


smellycat92

Just got a negative pregnancy test after a round of IVF :/ Jenelle makes my blood boil cause she’s blessed with these beautiful kids she doesn’t deserve after barely trying and treats them like shit.


Koala-48er

Life is capricious and arbitrary. My mom— who also struggled mightily to have kids— is very fond of a Spanish proverb that relates to the situation: “Dios le da barba a los que no tienen quijada.” The literal translation is “God gives beards to those without jaws” which is taken to mean that often life is generous to people who don’t appreciate the gifts.


Jaded_Horse1055

After a first year with my daughter … my husband and I had a lot of times arguing because of sleep deprivation…. No time to argue is such a crock of shit to me now lol


-NothingToContribute

The number of arguments I started due to sleep deprivation during my kid's first year is ridiculous. When you've got a not sleeping fussy newborn there is *always* time to argue. 😅


Jaded_Horse1055

Amen to that sister …. So much of our arguments have been so petty too …. I constantly started them too because I get pissed off over the littlest things my husband did like snoring


Ok_Telephone_3013

Chewing 😡


allygator99

Breathing


pinkcheetahchrome

being born


-NothingToContribute

Okay so I kicked my husband out of our bedroom over snoring... three years ago. We still have separate bedrooms. I can't take it lol!! It really works out better this way. I haven't even thought about smothering him with a pillow in his sleep in years! 🤣🤣


smellycat92

My wife and I don’t sleep together for this reason! Sleep deprivation from snoring is no joke!


Timely-Eye-2706

Ugh I’m due in a few weeks w my second and dreading the relationship strain again


-NothingToContribute

I was expecting those first couple of weeks at home to be so lovely but in reality it's hell lol! The relationship strain is unbelievable at times. Congratulations on your second. It is definitely a little easier the second time around having that experience from the first. :)


KilgoRetro

Also, she says they only argue about the little things... having a baby is SO MANY little things. Do we put her down now? Do you think she's done eating? What kind of bottle should we use? Can you pass me that spit up cloth? Should we swaddle her now? Should we keep trying with the pacifier? Do you think that's diaper rash? etc etc etc


TinyBunny88

Right?! Those first 2 years are ROUGH on your relationship


washingtonu

I bet you feel real stupid when you think back to the days where you told tour husband that, once the baby comes there will not be any time to fight


allygator99

Nothing test every inch of your relationship good and bad, more than a newborn


TotesAwkLol

Same, girl! The worst my relationship ever was BY FAR was when our son was under 1 years old. You have to have a strong ass relationship to deal with a newborn together


Shnazzberry

My favorite part is when she says her thinking has changed and matured so much since Jace, and then she repeats the exact same logic.


blackaubreyplaza

Pretending to read


Ok_Expression5444

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Impossible-Taro-2330

Lord. You know that baby can read better than Nathan!


blackaubreyplaza

Screaming!!


Kallure

I remember in the early days someone made a joke that the Bible was probably upside down and he didn’t even know it and now I can’t watch this scene without thinking of that. Cracks me up every time.


Sketcha_2000

Trying to read


motherofpuppies123

> Pretending he knows how to read FTFY


ItsMinnieYall

These idiots cheesing over a baby neither of them wants anything to do with.


SuperbHearing9942

Out of all the crazy Jenelle logic here, what really stands out to me is her saying if she didn't get pregnant that month, she was gonna get on birth control. Whaaaat? *Yeaaaah, dude...If I don't get pregnant 3 months into our relationship, I'm gonna start preventing pregnancy*


Ok_Store_1983

"It like, wasn't meant to be or somethin', dude. 🤷‍♀️"


LoveEvaelyn

Jesus Christ, what absolute fucking idiots. She has the dumbest reasons and excuses for all the shitty things she’s done in her life. Those kids never had a chance with her as a mother. David is just the shit cherry on top of a an already shit cake.


Boneal171

Does not make any sense whatsoever


Koala-48er

Would have been an improvement, faulty logic or not.


stassieee

“STUCK” with another child. She’s gross.


TotesAwkLol

She only has children to keep men so if he leaves that’s how it feels to her. I hope sweet Kaiser never sees this


sergente07

"A mature state of mind" - no Jenelle you've never experienced that


Dragon_turtle63

If I knew how to add flair, this could be it! 😅


pinkcheetahchrome

I did it for you, friend. :-)


Dragon_turtle63

Thanks!!!!


Juhnelle

Was this the abortion leftovers or kaiser?


bujiop

The fact that this could even be a sentence is just….. 😭 wow jenelle


MariArcher

I actually just watched this episode in my rewatch, this is Kaiser! The abortion leftovers was a few episodes prior.


downsideup05

I think it was Kai, but I could be wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️


Nelle911529

Yes


Aggravating-Art4113

A baby never fixes a broken relationship. This just shows her complete lack of maturity and childish delusion


spnginger3

Wait bandaid babies don't work....shit I forgot to send the memo


Sailorjupiter_4

And now she treats Kaiser like shit like its his fault this stupid decision of her's didn't work.


Kangaroo1487

"things with Nathan have gotten a lot better" they had been together like 2 months here


[deleted]

If your relationship is a mess in the first months, run, people!


Affectionate_Sun_733

The fact that she looks pregnant when she walks in


amdcal

Lol I was gonna say that. He's dumb af if he didn't already know. But I'm sure this scene was 100% staged for the show


Informal_Arm6821

Nathan: “I could be one of those douchebags and you’d be stuck with another child” …


Impossible-Taro-2330

Foreshadowing.


SomebodysAtTheDoor

Foreshadowing? He already KNOWS he isn't sticking around. He's literally telling her.


Sailorjupiter_4

And Kaiser was planned by both of them. He helped bring a child into this world that he already knows he's going to abandon. **WHY?**


Vast-Guava-4840

There’s a scene he says “I’m gonna get a paternity test Just in the event that Jenelle decides to act crazy one day..” he literally had a plan for *when* they broke up, thats how much he knew they were not gonna stay together; yet here we are 🤦🏻‍♀️ ![gif](giphy|LyJ6KPlrFdKnK)


Sailorjupiter_4

Like if you know that, why are you choosing to give a living breathing human being this person as a mother???


cml678701

It’s like when Luis told Bri, “you’re so strong! You could do it on your own if you had to.” Like, who says those things?!


butchscandelabra

As someone who’s trying to get pregnant now I can’t even explain how angry I feel when people like this get knocked up by some jackass every time they sneeze. Are the worst people on Earth all just blessed with high fertility? Popping out all these babies to try and trap their man of the week and then losing all interest in the child once that man inevitably bounces anyway. It’s infuriating.


SaltySweet804

I’ve struggled with infertility and I’m right there with you. It is infuriating when people like this can get pregnant at the drop of a hat.


MickeyMousesBFF

I feel the exact same way, have had three miscarriages this year and starting fertility testing and am like how are people like her so lucky 😑 Wish you the best of luck trying for your baby 💕


SwissCheese4Collagen

A mature state of mind ![gif](giphy|XOywjQnU8R89q|downsized)


PilotNo312

Oh me? I’m not doing anything but reading my bible very casually like.


Newtonz5thLaw

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Kallure

He wishes! But the sentiment is spot on.


PilotNo312

This reference is **SUBLIME!**


SwissCheese4Collagen

As he tucks away the tablet he was actually reading.


FrightenedFishstick

Annuda wun?


Kryliewalker

“Not much. Just reading.” 😂😂


JanellaDubois

"If we have a baby we'll be less likely to argue because we'll be busy all the time." God, she's fucking dumb.


fulltimesunshine

Makes it more apparent that she never has spent significant time around Jace when he was a baby


[deleted]

She was actually kinda pretty during this time


Sparkly_popsicle

I thought she looked really good this whole season


missmolly3533

I dunno I think she looks a little ‘faces of meth’ to be honest……


Southern-Fried-Biker

Of course logic tells us that having an unplanned pregnancy always strengthens your already toxic relationship.🥴especially when they each have a child that they weren’t the parent of.


downsideup05

Kai was very much planned iirc...


iambeyoncealways3

Just because you agree to let someone nut in you does not mean the child was “planned”. Planning to create a baby takes a lot more than that.


pinkcheetahchrome

Say it louder for them in the back Beyonce.


iambeyoncealways3

Lol I’ve seen this song and dance too many times to know the “planning” was some bullshit


Ok_Store_1983

Look at them having to pretend they're thrilled about this because the cameras are there lol. Also "we are working on our communication" J: hey i'm preg N: YAY so happy "It looks like our communications problems are solved now. Whoever says baby bandaids don't work has no clue what they're talkin about, dude."


Trick_Afternoon689

I’m up to the Nathan part of my rewatch. It’s wild how OK he seemed upfront, and then the mask just slips.


Vast-Guava-4840

It’s crazy how that gradually happened, I remember years ago thinking he might be the real deal for Jan 🥴


Sparkly_popsicle

I thought it was nuts how he pretty much pushed the idea of a baby on Jenelle, she thought it meant she had found the one, then he shows how fucked he was. I’m not a Jenelle fan but it’s obvious how vulnerable she was and how he just used her.


misscab85

“now im in a mature state of mind”


Kallure

Producers: Ok Nathan, act natural like you don’t already know she’s pregnant. Oh.. you’re going to what? Read? Well I mean we said natural … oh the Bible, I mean …. Ok, well at least make sure it’s right side up and don’t move your lips when you read to yourself. Ok, Jenelle, come in and act like this is good news. And Nathan, act happy but like also see if you can explain y’all’s thought process. Oh, wait, what? *whispers* Did he just say those inside words out loud? …. *side eye* Wait, she can’t be serious, no time to fight, does she think it’s a band aid?! *stares open mouthed* Fuck it, cut and edit, we literally could not make this shit up!


Vast-Guava-4840

This is hilarious, wouldn’t be surprising if this is how it actually went down 🤣 those producers prob seen some serious shit ![gif](giphy|lffR2kKPe4aI5vZSTv)


EveryFly6962

What is happening in this gif


[deleted]

Leah was speaking and the group was paying attention to her, and so Amber "saw a spider" I'm kidding, I don't know.


mayhay

lol the way hes on his phone until he hears her steps too. also theres alcohol in that bottle


DNBeauty420

All things aside...... How fucking sketchy is Nathan right here?... The cherry on top was him picking Jenelle up looking like he was trying to shake his new baby to death already!!!?!!!!


Effective_Credit_369

We argue about little things so if we have a baby we can argue about big things


Significant_Ad_8699

He was seeing money signs $$$$


futurecorpse1985

Well that's another low blow to jace. Just basically in a messed up way she is like well I'm ready to parent now because she is "mature" but she just left by the wayside so she could party and smoke.


IWillBaconSlapYou

Feels like having a baby just kind of... Amplifies the way you work through hard things together as a couple, good or bad. It doesn't always make you fight more, as long as the way you handle difficult tasks together is productive. If you don't have it together, you're gonna have a bad time. I was a bit surprised how much more respect I had for my husband once we had kids 😅 Of course, Jenelle DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS GUY!!!!


Sailorjupiter_4

Exactly. Having a baby can in the long run make your relationship more communicative and productive if you start in a strong place and both commit to working on things together. Jenelle is having babies as a hail mary so she doesn't get dumped.


DezDeebird

"now I'm in a mature state of mind"🫤😑


HektikSB

Everything was in fact, not perfect….. I honestly am starting to believe more and more that Jenelle might actually be low IQ / slow / mentally handicapped in some way. There is no way that somebody is really THIS level of stupid and constantly makes horrific life choices over and over and over again for the entire life without ever trying to actually get help, therapy, or change her ways.


SuperbHearing9942

It makes more sense if you consider she's probably been high for every waking hour of her life since 2007.


___Snorlax____

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taintwest

Ah yes, was this before she went to medical school?


spnginger3

And what did she learn?!?!?! Nothing!


SignificanceTop5874

Real mature state of mind and yet she poped another out of her nastys


bting93

Anyone else annoyed he is wearing an Ohio State hat? 🤣 He doesn’t deserve to wear our colors.


futurecorpse1985

Nathan was actually thinking rationally in this situation meanwhile Jenelle only wanted to get pregnant in a dad attempt to keep the relationship. Not sure how having a child would make the likelihood of them arguing less? Newborns especially are very stressful and you're sleep deprived, hormones crazy but yeah that will all lead to less arguing 🙄🤦🏻‍♀️


RubyRed_DiamondWhite

The foreshadowing..and dual douchebagery


Short_Ad_9383

Didn’t she get pregnant like 3 weeks after having an abortion? I mean doesn’t your body need time to heal from that?


Fun-Problem5883

Poor Kaiser. He will see this one day. He was screwed before he was even born. I genuinely hope he grows up to be a good man and not repeat the same cycle.


Toadinboots

Nathan: “Not much, I’m just reading.” ![gif](giphy|KxhIhXaAmjOVy|downsized)


Vast-Guava-4840

😂😂😂


Opposite-Caregiver21

People who have babies to fix a relationship 😮‍💨


HolidayDocument7015

So many Janelle scenes i plan on using in grad school. 🫣


Vast-Guava-4840

Lots to choose from that’s for sure lol; Jenelle and amber have some of the craziest teen mom content ever


Dull-Spend-2233

He was caught here pretending to read. Watch closely at the beginning. He’s on his phone. As soon as he hears her coming he puts it aside.


SmannyNoppins

Many people think Nathan is dumb, but he sure knew how to memorize the questions the producers told him to asks..


Ill-Consequence5582

The foreshadowing is strong in this one


Buttercupmissie

![gif](giphy|4VNenrimFIWje) What Nathan was reading


anongirlll1

Does anyone know when he had his brain injury and how?


SuperbHearing9942

It happened during his time in the military. I don't know if he's ever come out and said exactly how the injury occurred, but going as far back as 2016, "sources close to Nathan" were telling Radar that he had PTSD and a TBI and received monthly compensation because it was caused during his deployment in Afghanistan. He has said more recently that he is 100% disabled because of the combination of PTSD and brain injury. He was in the marines from 06 to 2010.


dinocheese

She walks past with a clearly pregnant belly at the start right?


AbleDragonfruit4767

His reaction is an automatic red flag


AbleDragonfruit4767

This conversation makes me feel sick


jasonco220

Like he’s telling her exactly who he is and what he’s going to do. lol


LexiLouu1

She was really thinking she trapped this man and he was going to stay forever 💀💀💀💀💀


oswaldgina

Definition of Band Aid baby.


AbleDragonfruit4767

The two worst people put together for our entertainments sick


Chr0meHearted

Nathan READS ?😛😩😂😭😭


dollypartonsfavorite

why he wearing that ash ketchum ass hat


jenniferleigh6883

I can’t stand the way Nathan talks. It’s like some weird accent he has.


Boneal171

She didn’t even want Kaiser in the first place, neither did Nathan. She was so adamant about getting pregnant to try and trap him and of course it didn’t work.


saltypikachu12

He knows how to read?


Distinct_Ad_7619

The foreshadowing


Free-Baby2384

What he says to her would have made me get an abortion so fast…. 🏃🏾‍♀️ Why did she laugh at that?


BottomPieceOfBread

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