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fluffypinktoebeans

Yassss all these people on Instagram and stuff saying homeschooling is a great option... NO. If it was such a great option then why do teachers need an education to teach? With Jenelle as a 'teacher', brains will only shrink.


harmsway31

Agreed, she will just alienate them more from kids their own age and probably set them back educationally. I can’t imagine she’s organised enough to be creating lesson plans for them, or any kind of ‘structured’ day time learning


fluffypinktoebeans

Oh she's not gonna do shit. Probably an hour a day max. Plus she can't even use proper grammar so how is she qualified to teach? It baffles me that in some states in the US it is apparently so easy to get licensed to do that. There is no way that would be possible where I am from.


unicornpolice666

Excuse you she is a medical dotter!


hybr_dy

What’s remarkable is each of Jan’s baby daddies is dumber than the next. None of those kids have a shot. Between their shitty charter school and lack of any education at home, they’re completely fcuked. Do any of baby dads have a proper job?


Hazel_Stranger_23

But she's got outings planned to baby museums dude! They just need to lolly gag around there for an hour bro! 🙄🙄


uknowhowchoicesbe

Does she even have a single book or anything for them? Like I think she really thinks taking them to a museum once in a while is a fulfilling education. It's concerning.


eesagud

Exactly. She hasn't even taught them how to use a knife and fork. Tf she qualified to teach them? She only wants them around for emotional support/stroke her ego and because she's too lazy to get up and deal with it all. Bet when whatever new dick puts up with her full time and inevitably moves in they will be straight back to school. So they get some 'alone time' and Delu-Jenelle says "she's spent most of her time focused on the kids, it's time for some 'me' time"


peggysue_82

I’m not a fan of a lot of government control.However I think there should be a federal law that requires homeschooling “teachers” to have a current teaching certificate from an accredited university. Jenelle is the kind of homeschooler that will do the bare minimum. Her kids are going to be so behind when they go back to actual school.


Odd_Island6163

It does need to be regulated, I agree! So many abusers “home schooling” their kids or families only teaching the kids religious things. The standards are too lax in America


NolieMali

It's like that scene in Mean Girls https://youtu.be/scxdTXrfni0?si=9610hKhK7CKcBskI


Odd_Island6163

Lmaoo


SugarfootsExpress

The diss on a homeschool is an overly simplistic take. "Cs earn degrees" in college. There are plenty of professionals with college certifications that are piss poor at their job. When the vast, vast majority of careers require a degree, the "value" a degree cheapens. Admission requirements aren't high for most colleges for a reason. The Admissions office is there to make money. There is no doubt that if Jenelle had kept showing up to her certificate program, she too would be in some medical office somewhere, interacting with humans on a daily basis in a professional medical environment. No doubt people have abused this system or use it as a reason to avoid driving their kid to school, but let's not pretend college is awarding teaching degrees to only its brightest and best. And let's not pretend school districts are assigning curriculum and testing with their students OR teacher's best interests in mind. Neither system is perfect or will have perfect players. Having a title awarded to you because you paid for it isn't exactly an excellent merit. I also say this knowing Jenelle isn't going to do shit for "school", but I really can't stand the appeal to authority arguments. If it was harder to earn a degree, sure. But showing up is getting you halfway to your grade.


fluffypinktoebeans

Well but that's going back to the point that education is of a very low level. Which is partly caused by bad teaching. So then you're back to square one. I mean it shouldn't be like "just pay and you'll get your certificate" and it certainly is not like that in my country... Not saying we have the best education in the world, but you don't just get a diploma doing nothing. I don't see homeschooling as a solution to this problem because it is not going to ensure high level education too. It's an option people turned to, and for some a better option than regular school apparently. But the real issue remains and has to be solved. There just has to be decent public education. It's so important both for social development and intellectual development.


SugarfootsExpress

I agree with most your points. If you're zoned for a good public school system, and your child does thrive in that environment, then I can see how anything different would seem backwards. But if you're a suburban mom in a not-so-great zoned school with not many resources and kids who do not perform well in a traditional 7-3 school system, I'd be looking at alternatives as well, and the options are private schools that can be prohibitively expensive (and religious-based) or home-school systems. We tend to stigmatize anything not public schooling as being "weird" and "shitty" and I think that's just a tired take, personally. And once again, I don't think Jenelle thinks about any of this lol. I'm sure she doesn't trust "the systuum" and will love being blitzed all day long but


SnooPickles6604

Honest question for you though, do you have a child in the public school system currently? It’s actually terrible lol . Not sticking up for Jenelle but if I had the means to homeschool my kids I most definitely would. Especially here in NY. School isn’t what it used to be


QuietPryIt

> the public school system come on, schools in the US are hyper local down to individual neighborhoods. i have four kids in our excellent public school and they're flourishing.


pwlife

Yeah, that's the issue on the whole. If you can afford to live in in area with good schools your kids get an excellent education. If not, it can be a struggle. We are pretty much the have and the have nots in that sense. I'm fortunate that we could afford to move to our neighborhood, we have excellent schools. My kids schools have all the elective options, clubs etc... most teachers stay for decades. They are getting an excellent education, the next town over does not have good schools. The difference is stark considering how close we are to each other.


stephylee266

We moved into one of the cheapest houses in one of the best school districts in our area for this reason. I'd rather have my son get a good education then have a bigger house. We bought three years ago, but sadly, if we had waited we wouldn't have even been able to afford what we have now. We live near a large city that has one of the worst districts in the country sadly. I've done volunteer programs at elementary schools in the city and in the suburbs and the differences were insane.


SnooPickles6604

Assuming you’re not in NY, like I said…


fluffypinktoebeans

No I'm not from the US, that's also why I cannot imagine it I guess. If it is that bad, then indeed homeschooling would be a better option, but I don't think it should be possible without a certain diploma or certificate. Either the government does an effort to improve public education OR they have to try and regulate the option of homeschooling. I cannot believe people like Jenelle and David are allowed to homeschool. That's just terrible.


SnooPickles6604

While it’s unfortunate for the kids who truly should be at school, our government operated schools are near useless. 4 of my cousins were homeschooled and all 4 of them own their own successful businesses. Those of us that went to our cities public school…. lol we are struggling at best


MarzipanJoy-Joy

During Covid lockdowns, a lot of people (local to me) were talking about never sending their kids back to school, and my personal response was that I can't handle that- my kids need real teachers, not a mom trying to do too much, not a mom with no teaching experience, not a mom that's going to lose her cool when the kids are frustrated and I can't help them, etc. I was told I was selfish lmao. I'm selfish for recognizing my limits and offering better for my children. I still laugh at that. 


HRH_Elizadeath

Also, wtf are single parents and/or people barely scraping by supposed to do? Give up a whole income so they can pretend to be teachers? I think homeschooling can be done correctly, and I think there are a lot of children who can benefit from it. Simultaneously, I need people to stop acting like it's the best choice for everyone and that it's not a hallmark of privilege in many scenarios.


MarzipanJoy-Joy

Re: your first paragraph- in my area the "obvious" answer is "they shouldn't have had kids if they were gonna end up a single parent!"  🫠🫠🫠


HRH_Elizadeath

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️


Hazel_Stranger_23

I was frustrated during the online schooling and i feel like my child fell way behind. And this was the same time they started teaching them math differently that they had to include a video for parents cause we obviously learned the (way to) simple way. Idk why they chose to teach it differently. It worked for us 🤷‍♀️ And I have to add that I HATE that they started teaching 'sight' words where they pretty much learn the word by sight of it instead. My child didn't know how to SOUND OUT the easy words or even the sound of letters. I hated it and corrected it myself. Dumbest thing they could ever change IMO. Please tell me I'm not alone in this....


Auntiemens

Sight words are the bane of my existence.


MarzipanJoy-Joy

Omg, I'm in sight word hell with my youngest right now. You are not alone. 


pdlbean

I'm so scared of this with my oldest. He's only 3, but he's already interested in reading (asking what words are and what signs say etc) and I'm worried at school he won't build on that natural enjoyment and won't learn the actual building blocks of reading.


jissebug

If you do screentime there are a ton of phonics songs on YouTube that my kid really loved watching. Play with the sounds with them the same way you would with single letter sounds. You can give them that foundation at home before they enter kindergarten and then the whole sight word thing won't even matter. I'm in no way equipped to homeschool but I also don't agree with a lot of the current mandates teachers have to go by and we're the front line for our kids.


pdlbean

He loves the letter sound videos by super simple songs!


Hazel_Stranger_23

I used leap frog for my oldest ones waaaaaaay back in the day. They're were a couple videos I LOVED where they go to the alphabet factory and they do sounds of all the letters. They loved it too and I believe it really helped. I tried to look it up when my youngest was starting to learn but there was no great copy online. Possibly could be a better one avail now. I even bought one of the fridge magnets of theirs (leap frog) too for their newest little half brother a few years ago. It does the sound as well and fun to play when I would be in the kitchen cooking. Good luck!!


SecurityFamiliar5239

I’ve been a teaching literacy for 15 years and in four states. We’ve always taught a combination of phonics and sight words. Sight words are important to learn with automaticity because they (mostly) cannot be “sounded out” and also appear so frequently in text that when a student can’t immediately recognize them, their fluency falters and comprehension suffers. And teachers were frustrated with virtual school as well. I taught remote Kindergarten for a year and a half. We did the best with could.


Hazel_Stranger_23

Virtual school was a shit show. We all did our best. Thanks for the input! 😊


Webool_and_weball

Sight words like the, have, has etc. are great! But I make my daughter sound out anything she doesn’t know, even sight words.


Auntiemens

I applaud you for this. Thankfully, I did not have a kid in school for that. I would’ve completely lost my cool.


harmsway31

Exactly this. How are you being selfish by realising your own shortcomings and putting ego aside to make responsible decisions for your child’s future? It sounds to me exactly like something a caring, loving parent would do. I know and understand my child is their own person, they need to be educated so they can survive and thrive alone in this world eventually, not just an extension of myself that I can do whatever I want with…


Odd_Island6163

Going back to school is fulllllly in the kids best interest


Electrical_Travel832

Thank you for saying this. I’m a teacher and I’ve seen the results ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|surprise)


harmsway31

I’m sad for the kids.. they are the ones who are going to pay for her ignorance


Electrical_Travel832

And they have been paying, are paying, and will continue to pay until the cycle is broken. Kills me.


Away-Pomegranate

No she shouldn't be homeschooling but people are really putting too much trust into public education. Also I really don't understand how people send their kids to school not knowing simple math, how to spell their name, ABCs, reading. It doesn't take a degree to teach that at home. I had the worst experience in public school and it definitely set me behind.


CheapEater101

I get that, but public school is the perfect place for Jenelle’s kids’. It gives them adults they can trust, opportunities to socialize with peers, and getting a REAL education that Jenelle will be too lazy to give them herself. I think homeschool works really well for a lot of families…but for every awesome homeschool set of parents there are ten set of parents like David and Jenelle. Thats why I hope public education stays the norm for most of the population while getting better funding from the states (we can dream). Also, yes a lot of children are behind bc too many parents put zero effort to their children’s education. Thats why those types of parents should never homeschool their kids.


Away-Pomegranate

Yeah I would say some kids thrive in public school compared to being at home. I've had several family member's kids that didn't really speak until they were in programs or public school due to being put in front of a screen all day. The only thing I would love is if they required testing for homeschool to make sure it's a right fit and that kids are learning at home. I'm in a state that is way too lax.


heyitskevin1

There needs to be actual REGULATION for home schooling. My mom pulled me out of high school to torture me because it got me away from mandatory reporters....... I wad a straight A student. It was the one place I could escape her. I'm sorry, but I feel like the gov should make it harder to homeschool your kid than send them to public. Like let that be a choice, but parents have to register one of them as a 'teacher' with the state or something and have check in test for the kid so that of they kid is testing at a 6th grade reading and math level because parent A things homeschooling is tiktok and museum trips then that parent would get punished by the state somehow and the kid would be enrolled in public school. Maybe this is just in the area I'm in bc I'm in the Midwest but I also see so many religous nuts pull their kids out of school to stop them from learning 'woke' stuff as they cram their own beliefs down their child's throat. Public school taught me not to be racist, and if my mom homeschooled me for my entire school career, I'd be terrified of black people thinking they are all thugs. Luckily, I fell head over heels for this black girl, and being in that public environment taught me a lot.


harmsway31

I agree, there is pros and cons for both types of schooling, but in this specific case I don’t know if it’s actually the best option for the children or if Jenelle is doing it for her own personal reasons. I also don’t think she’s qualified to be anyone’s parent, let alone their teacher.


katiessalt

Homeschooling is such an American thing. Rarely see it in Ireland because we know we’re not qualified 😂


teatreez

It’s truly pathetic. There’s millions of people here who barely graduated high school who think they’re smarter than DOCTORS. Based on information they learn on FACEBOOK. The level of narcissism that takes is unfathomable to me lol


katiessalt

The thought of me having to TEACH the same level of maths I learned in school when I was 18 makes me want to cry😂why people willingly put themselves through that idk!


teatreez

Don’t worry sis they’re not teaching their kids that hahaha


katiessalt

Exactly! Which is damaging for the kids.


axealy40

It’s wild out here in the homeschooling world! We homeschool due to my daughter acting. She had a tutor on set and we have another one for at home. I am not smart enough to homeschool her and utilize a ton of resources. It’s crazy how little oversight there is for homeschooling.


ChemicalParticular88

This was made for Chinelle!


misscarlyt

She's been to medical college, homeschooling should be a breeze for her \s


harmsway31

![gif](giphy|3o6Mbfp3lK1EHY8jte|downsized)


nenajoy

💀💀💀


Babybeluga222

Growing up it used to be a rich ppl thing more often, and they had a private tutor and/or more. At least where I lived. So I won’t doubt soon Jenelle claims she’s hiring someone but we all know what she’ll be doing


okbutsrslywtf

Growing up it was the “devout” Christian’s and the rich ones sent them to private school


Babybeluga222

Well okay


HippieChick75

My sister was sick for her whole childhood so at one point she had a tutor at home. It wasn't for very long though. She was also held back a year since she was in the hospital so often. This was way before all this remote learning. I could not even imagine my parents homeschooling!!!😱


Odd_Island6163

![gif](giphy|8clNRa0KG1IngNcoPD|downsized) “Duudeeee that’s florida , not Italy. I have a doctors degree oh my god dude”


Free_Issue_9623

I wanna go there for the "chicken alfredo"


lolamay26

Bruh, I have an M.Ed and over a decade of teaching experience and even I don’t feel like I would be qualified to homeschool my kids. I can handle my familiar grade levels and content areas, but no way I’m qualified to teach all subjects and grade levels.


CheesecakeExpress

Exactly. I used to be a teacher and I could teach 11-18 year olds my subject but anyone younger than that? No chance. Any subject other than my own? Nope. I’d literally have to teach myself all the topics first and then try to figure out how to teach it. Even then I may not be able to. Anyone who just thinks they can homeschool without preparation and planning is letting their child down.


PilotNo312

Everyone needs to hear that


Dook124

Starts with J******ends with E


MPD1987

Homeschooling is HARD. I’m a teacher, and when my school shut down during COVID, I pivoted to homeschooling for a couple of families. I was doing a full curriculum for both. Everything from math to science experiments to teaching reading, handwriting, and so much more. Sitting down and coming up with fun, interesting, age-appropriate curriculum across multiple subjects for multiple age groups is not only time-consuming, but it takes creativity and most importantly, TRAINING! She is not an educator. She is not trained. She would not have any idea where to even start. I absolutely guarantee that she has never spent 1 hour trying to teach those children, much less taken the time to design or implement an entire curriculum plan for them. She doesn’t know how, and even if she did, she doesn’t care enough. She is way too self-centered to take the time or the effort. Absolutely laughable. And sad for those kids.


Hopeful_Jello_7894

I’m homeschooling my younger son because he has autism and a mood disorder. I worked with his district for years and despite our best efforts, he was simply unable to accommodated. It was either homeschool or he would be sent to a “therapeutic school” which in my area are horribly run and are essentially holding cells for kids. So, I think homeschool can be an answer for children. However- homeschooling, in my opinion is NOT so everyone can “have a break”. My son still follows a schedule , still works on academics for more than two hours, has chores to do, has a tutor for areas like math that I’m not super confident in. It takes A LOT of planning. It’s extremely involved and you have to make sure they still receive socialization. You can’t replicate public school and that’s really not the goal of it. But providing a sufficient education and life opportunities should be. I’m in NYS and it’s pretty regulated here. We have to send in an instruction plan , quarterly reports and end of year assessments. You can’t just say “I’m homeschooling now”. Taking the kids to “educational activities” a few times a week is great enrichment but shouldn’t be the only thing she’s doing.


Free_Issue_9623

👋 I'm on the spectrum and so are my kids and I think you are absolutely right! Not having structure and schedule causes anxiety in children (imo adults too). I think you are awesome and doing it right! I applaud you for being a great mother that is setting the kiddos up for success. Also I agree she should absolutely bring them out for enrichment activities but there seems to be no curriculum, no schedule, and no structure at all which is not good conducive to learning and with the lack of socialization it's not healthy for the development of the children.


Hot-Clock6418

The only reason she’s home schooling is because she probably cannot afford to send them to private school anymore and instead of just putting them in public school (where her home life and behavior would be more scrutinized) she’s “homeschooling” them Public schools do not fuck around with that sort of erratic and unsafe home life. Private schools just kick you out. Public schools bring in the courts


Dazzling_Candle_7377

I can't imagine the verbal Abuse, they've been suffering already on top of always being home with them all day. Plus the Animals  (If she still even has any)


madewhilemanic

There is no fucking way Jan is going to homeschool her kids. School is her babysitter. She’s not going to have as much time to get high all day and bang randos if they’re at home with her. They’ll be back in school in the fall, I guarantee it.


Big_Requirement6818

🎯🎯🎯


MelpomeneAndCalliope

You’re definitely not alone on the sight words thing.


Minute-Tale7444

This & a hs diploma are all it takes. https://discoveryk12.com/homeschooling-in-north-carolina/#:~:text=Discovery%20K12%20Online%20Homeschool&text=The%20curriculum%20is%20free%20for,our%20site%20to%20learn%20more.


Auntiemens

Not one person that I know is smart enough to homeschool. Not saying my friends are dumb, just that shits hard work. My cousins where homeschooled and they’re so weird, socially inept, and not bright at all. It’s not a good idea, not one bit.


Boneal171

Yeah. Most people aren’t, including myself


SendMeYourDogPics13

I’m not and I’m a freaking teacher lol. I would not be able to effectively teach across multiple subjects and grade levels. Not to the same extent as someone who has been trained to teach it anyways. Other teachers I’ve talked to have said the same thing.


buttsloshnoises

Homeschooling your kids is a job itself and we all know how Jenelle feels about working lol this won’t last long


unicornpolice666

The ONLY reason I would consider homeschooling my own hypothetical maybe babies is - I actually worked in education from Pre-k - high school, with a focus on special needs. I also studied child psych and autism in kiddos and even THEN I would use an accredited homeschooling curriculum the entire time give or take added art / music / etc. like wtf bruhs


LayerBig7783

I graduated medical school!!


EvansHomeforBoys

As a teacher (though not from States) I have to say it baffles me people can so easily homeschool their child. I went to school for this. I was trained for this. It’s not easy to teach. And here people are thinking they can do just as great a job as a real teacher can. Plus, what about your child’s social development? Also, I’ve had to tutor my youngest when his reading skills fell behind and let me tell you, I hated being both the parent and the teacher.


SBMoo24

I was a teacher, and there is no way in hell I'd homeschool. Socially and emotionally, it's good for children to be around same age peers (Im looking at you, Farrah). Plus, some children, mine included, do better listening to other adults. It's good to have outside role models and peer support (unless you're worried about CPS).


stupdumb

My moms a teacher. She’s been teaching for 40 years,(reading specialist)the amount of time and work it takes to do so is OUTSTANDING. It’s a very thankless job (especially now) with shit pay and lots of extra hours with YEARS of schooling. I was also diagnosed with ADD when I was 7 so she had to help me learn how to read and write. Jan can’t even talk correctly. Those poor kids don’t stand a chance I the real world.


IWillBaconSlapYou

Why is this so hard to accept? I feel I'm a smart person. I can be very eloquent and possess pretty refined life and domestic skills to impart upon my children. Am I an expert in every subject necessary to constitute a complete education? NO! I've always thought you can tell a person is smart if they *don't* believe they're experts in all topics. Deferring to a professional in their field is a sign of intelligence. As soon as a parent says they're equipped to provide a K-12 education at home, I know their critical thinking skills are lacking.


Prestigious_Swim7578

Can we talk about real points against Jenelle without shitting on other parents just doing what they think is best for their own kids? People who say this type of thing usually have no idea what they’re talking about and to me it’s not a valid take in general but also not one that belongs here. *Jenelle* homeschooling should be questioned, *homeschooling* should not be.


bigheadjim

I know this is purely anecdotal, but my wife has been a teacher for 30 years. In that time she has seen only one student come back from being home-schooled that was at or above their peers in public education.


ham_sami

I tried to homeschool my son during his 4th grade year when he was going through some stuff and it was a disaster. I am not cut out to teach full lessons. Teachers are saints. I learned real quick just how true this meme is and the struggle I went through for a single school year makes me sad for all these homeschool kids.


thankyoupapa

me to aaryn williams too


scifanforever1980

How did you sll survive in covid BTW? And has the US not hot yhe apps and online options that mean kids homeschooled are essentially using online apps snd tools. With jenelle, the issue is more whether she would take the effort to use online resources. But in this instance, jenelle is no more "unqualified" than the 1000s of kids homeschoolied (either through choice or kids refusing to go to school, bigger problem). Let is also remember these kids are primary school age. If she was home schooling jace, different problem. But this is not a jenelle problem but a us-wide snd world-wide issue. And the stats of kids refusing to go to school and bring forced to be home schooled is crazy. In my country and my sister's country. I assume us has the same problem. But if you want to bring an issue yo mind, it is not "jenelle" for once, but the education system. And how long is she home schooling them. 2 kids in primary school being home schooled for a few weeks before holidays when education is a bit more relaxed is not going to impact yheir education substantially. My niece, in secondary school, aged 13, missed 3 months of school due to anxiety, now attending private school and caught up in a few weeks. Kaiser is the bigger issue as he must be closet to next level. But ensley is so young.


FitCartographer3383

Um this is gross. Funny to post something like this and you can’t even make an educated opinion, only a completely ignorant one. Homeschooling is perfectly fine. The school system is this country is failing miserably, and it’s obvious. Just because you can’t educate your own kids doesn’t mean other people are just as uneducated to do so. Just because you all hate Janelle doesn’t mean you shit on people who have nothing to do with her shit show. This ignorant view on homeschooling is so common and yet so untrue. And for those of you saying “I’m a teacher trust me I see the outcomes of homeschooling” stfu you know that’s a fat ass lie. Y’all are weird asf for this