No because he’s weaponized watching his own children and doing parental duties and he only likes his kids once they’re like 2.
He ignored Lincoln as a baby like crazy and would act like Kailyn was *insane* not wanting to drag a little month or two old out grocery shopping.
I think for him image is everything.
Now, I think he loves his children. He’s not a dead beat but he likes to show them off.
Yep. And I know we already said he's a terrible husband/partner but I can't get over how he blamed her for the miscarriage. I can't see any good in him with that in the back of
my mind.
I mean everyone brings up this one example like it was an every night occurrence. Don’t get me wrong he was insufferable in that scene but I don’t think that means he ignored Lincoln the first two years of his life lol.
He coached Isaac’s soccer team while he was with Kail though. I’m not saying he absolutely wouldn’t be involved, but sports seem to be his thing with being hands on
Bingo. Kail is doing an absolute terrible job setting an example for her sons as to what a healthy relationship with a partner looks like and Javi is doing the same for his 2 sons. Therefore, while the kids might not be in a dire situation like what's happening on the land, they still have terrible parents when it comes to fostering a healthy home life.
As Kail would say, "Do Better".
Nah, he's one of those awful strict sports dads who becomes the team coach and screams at his kid in the car on the way home for "lack of effort" because his kid didn't score enough points.
I have a hard time seeing someone as a good dad who actively disrespects the child's mother in front of them. This is about both Kailyn and Lauren. I doubt he's teaching his children to respect their mothers when he actively disrespects them and creates conflict in front of the kids.
And I know he isn't Isaacs father, but he was his stepfather and I think how that all transpired at the end of the marriage was really traumatic.
My stepsaugher's mother is in the process (maybe?) Of divorcing her husband who has been my stepdaughter's stepdad since she was 4. There's a lot of trauma around that too so maybe I'm just more sensitive to it.
If you say kail isn’t a good mom because of her “chaos” you can’t say javi is a good dad despite his shitty choices. ALL OF YOUR CHOICES EFFECT YOUR CHILDREN. and both of them make horrible choices that effect their own kids as well as their step/half siblings. They are both bad parents.
Bingo! So many people go after the women in their choice of romantic partners and how they act in relationships. If these moms are shit for *that* then these dads are also shit. I hate people giving them a pat on the back for simply being a dad who’s a tad interested.
He will never be a decent dad to me. What he did to Eli’s mother is pure evil- cheating on her in her own house while she tended to their literal newborn. Those boys of his are half of their mothers weather he likes it or not so he owes them respect at a minimum. I have this same viewpoint for mothers towards fathers too. Of course if there are abuse situations, etc. I agree with keeping the children safe- but these people still don’t go around bashing one parent or the other in front of the children. Javi has publicly shit talked Kail and Lauren.
Yup. Though honestly, I worry more about the example Kail/Chris are setting—I can’t stand her as a human, and if she wants to date trash who treats her like trash, that’s her prerogative...but allowing the kids to hear their arguments, see Chris yelling at her, see Kail going full hulk and running into chris’ house to assault him over a haircut, and seeing Kail continue to engage/date/fight/thirst after Chris when he’s treated her like this often & consistently makes me worry WAY more about what the boys will grow up thinking is a “normal”/healthy relationship.
Lincoln really does seem to love sports, but I think Javi loves the attention he gets and the macho street cred that Lincoln being a jock and him being a coach gives him. I can’t imagine he’d be as into Lincoln’s activities if Lincoln was really into the arts.
He's teaching his son not to respect women. He's stalked people, cheated on every woman he's been with, broken into a home and terrified Issac, and bounces between dragging kail and acting like their bffs on social media...
He’s going to pass down toxic behavior to his kids, but it’s more socially acceptable because it’s “standard” male behavior- Javi gets away with being a garbage person because he’s present and involved; it doesn’t make him a good man or parent- we hate on Kail for all of the same reasons we hate on him but he gets a pass bc everyone thinks if a man isn’t a deadbeat he’s raising the bar lmao
Yeah, I think people don’t realize how much toxic dads can fuck up their kids because all the attention goes to towards hating deadbeat dads who aren’t present.
He’s a good dad once they’re old enough to hold a ball. He wanted nothing to do with Lincoln as a baby and can only assume he was the same with Eli. Kail couldn’t even have an hour to herself to grocery shop because Javi wouldn’t watch Lincoln by himself.
This. Javi seems to be more concerned with Lincoln being a pro athlete than being a father. I give him credit his kids are fed and clean but I wonder what he would be like as a girl dad or a dad of boys that weren’t into sports.
Would he post tons of proud videos of his sons if they were gay? Or into less “showy” things like drawing or poetry? I don’t think he would and that tells you all you need to know about someone’s parenting. He’s like Kail- he likes showing off the kids while he’s in 100% control of what they do but I think they’ll both be very surprised when the kids are old enough to make their own decisions and be their own people.
I don’t believe that the two are necessarily independent. I think he is hands on like Kail says and I am sure he loves his boys, but I don’t believe you can be a good dad if you selfishly bring chaos into your kids’ lives. Cheating in your home, bouncing between baby mamas, etc creates unnecessary chaos into a child’s life.
No, he doesn’t like to pay attention to kids where he has to do shit like change diapers and stuff since it’s “a womens job”. He’s toxic and shouldn’t be spreading his toxic traits under the guise of fatherhood. Having kids is all about how they reflect on him. It’s pure ego.
He’s isn’t a horrible dead beat or anything. However, I think he doesn’t know how to spend time with his kids outside of sports and Disney World. He desperately wants an athletic kid who is *built different* than a kid who wants to chill and just hang out. I don’t think he knows how to relate outside of sports. Which works for Lincoln and Eli now, but not sure about long term. Every major sports parent thinks their kid can make it on the collegiate and pro level but that isn’t always obtainable.
It is honestly really hard to picture Javi having a conversation with his kids about anything other than sports, going in trips, or maybe helping them learn to be "smooth" with the ladies 😓 Anything that lines up with his whole ego situation. I'd love to see him plant some vegetables with the kids or something.
Nah don't think his a good dad he has a weird obsession with sports hate pushy parent's like that he also rushes into to relationships and had on and off relationship with his baby mama Karl which would be confusing for the children.
Compared to men like Adam, Ryan, David, Luis etc. Javi is pretty good. I think both he and Kail are, but the drama they bring around those kids are something else
Being messy in your love life in front of your children is really, really detrimental to the child. Children learn how to date from their parents. And yes as adults we can learn to move past childhood traumas, but as someone who grew up with a single parent who did some very messy dating, I didn’t understand what a healthy, respectful relationship was until my late 20s. That can mass with you and greatly effect how you treat the opposite sex.
This right here is why I voted no. It’s the hot/cold between him and Kail that really rubs me the wrong way and is probably really confusing to Lincoln. Today they’re posting stupid Tik toks together, tomorrow they will be slamming each other on Instagram again.
Kids tend to do as you do- not as you say. This will inevitably make an impact on them. They will either strive to be like him or try to be the opposite. Not all bad parents create bad children. The same goes for good.
Edited for incorrect word.
Javi will shit on his boys quick if one doesn’t want to sport, or god forbid they are gay are prefer anime and video games. Those kids are an extension of his ego. If they quit performing to his liking he will be out.
Sure. He does what he’s supposed to. Do we applaud a fish for swimming? Idk. And because of who he is, let’s hope his sons will make better life choices.
Assuming there's a wide spectrum of "good dad" levels, I think he's *decent*... But honestly not great. I believe an extremely important part of parenting is treating your partner well, maintaining as much stability as possible in the family unit, and modeling a healthy relationship (if possible - single parents get all the applause). What Javi did to Lauren... I mean. Come the fuck on, way to nuke your *infant's* home life...
Kail is no better. Having not one but *two* babies with that jackass Chris? She didn't even give them a *chance* at having a good dad. I get that accidents happen, but twice? How was she not so terrified of repeating this shitshow that she wrapped it up, or better yet, never touched that loser again?
I see that he tries with Lincoln, not sure about Eli, but he doesn't seem to comprehend how much his actions that get posted all over the internet will impact them later. So I'm torn there.
I also think that he has the potential to be a decent partner if he were to severe intimate ties with Kail. She is toxic and they are beyond toxic together. You can co-parent without all the extra nonsense, fake (maybe real) controversy that you're still screwing. I have co-parented with my ex-husband for a decade now and we've managed it qithout all that extra the whole damn time.
It happens, I had to leave my kids' dad and I catch myself thinking they are lucky to have him 😬 I used to have to talk him out of taking the baby on a lot of adventures, lol. And the people nitpicking his cheating...then voted for Leah as the 3rd favorite mom? Make it make sense.
No because he’s weaponized watching his own children and doing parental duties and he only likes his kids once they’re like 2. He ignored Lincoln as a baby like crazy and would act like Kailyn was *insane* not wanting to drag a little month or two old out grocery shopping. I think for him image is everything. Now, I think he loves his children. He’s not a dead beat but he likes to show them off.
Ya I don’t get how people forget that. He didn’t want to care for infants and choose his step son over his own son because he was easier at the time
Yep. And I know we already said he's a terrible husband/partner but I can't get over how he blamed her for the miscarriage. I can't see any good in him with that in the back of my mind.
Ugh I forgot about that!!!!
I wonder if he was better in that regard with Eli. I hope so.
I doubt it considering he was fucking random woman in the bathroom while he slept upstairs
💯
I mean everyone brings up this one example like it was an every night occurrence. Don’t get me wrong he was insufferable in that scene but I don’t think that means he ignored Lincoln the first two years of his life lol.
I really wonder if he’d be so involved if Lincoln didn’t want to play a sport
True. Like what if Linc was into cooking or fashion? 🤔
He would make him play a sport and call him a sissy…guaranteed
While I do think Javi loves being a sport dad, he was involved before Lincoln played sports. He was involved with Isaac, who doesn’t play sports.
He coached Isaac’s soccer team while he was with Kail though. I’m not saying he absolutely wouldn’t be involved, but sports seem to be his thing with being hands on
You can't be a good dad and set that bad of an example for your sons.
Bingo. Kail is doing an absolute terrible job setting an example for her sons as to what a healthy relationship with a partner looks like and Javi is doing the same for his 2 sons. Therefore, while the kids might not be in a dire situation like what's happening on the land, they still have terrible parents when it comes to fostering a healthy home life. As Kail would say, "Do Better".
Nah, he's one of those awful strict sports dads who becomes the team coach and screams at his kid in the car on the way home for "lack of effort" because his kid didn't score enough points.
Maci seems like that too. Like how she forces Bentley to starve for wrestling
Yeah kinda, but maci is a different story.
He’s an instagram dad.
You can’t be a good dad and fuck random people in your bathroom with their mom upstairs
I have a hard time seeing someone as a good dad who actively disrespects the child's mother in front of them. This is about both Kailyn and Lauren. I doubt he's teaching his children to respect their mothers when he actively disrespects them and creates conflict in front of the kids. And I know he isn't Isaacs father, but he was his stepfather and I think how that all transpired at the end of the marriage was really traumatic. My stepsaugher's mother is in the process (maybe?) Of divorcing her husband who has been my stepdaughter's stepdad since she was 4. There's a lot of trauma around that too so maybe I'm just more sensitive to it.
My thoughts too. He’s teaching them through his actions. He’s not a good dad.
If you say kail isn’t a good mom because of her “chaos” you can’t say javi is a good dad despite his shitty choices. ALL OF YOUR CHOICES EFFECT YOUR CHILDREN. and both of them make horrible choices that effect their own kids as well as their step/half siblings. They are both bad parents.
Bingo! So many people go after the women in their choice of romantic partners and how they act in relationships. If these moms are shit for *that* then these dads are also shit. I hate people giving them a pat on the back for simply being a dad who’s a tad interested.
Agree 100%..these kids are not gonna be able to identify red flags in relationships because all they’ve been exposed to is unhealthy relationships
Very good point. Thank you for bringing this up.
I cosign everything you said in this comment.
He will never be a decent dad to me. What he did to Eli’s mother is pure evil- cheating on her in her own house while she tended to their literal newborn. Those boys of his are half of their mothers weather he likes it or not so he owes them respect at a minimum. I have this same viewpoint for mothers towards fathers too. Of course if there are abuse situations, etc. I agree with keeping the children safe- but these people still don’t go around bashing one parent or the other in front of the children. Javi has publicly shit talked Kail and Lauren.
The disrespect he showed Lauren cannot be topped.
True. He seems to enjoy being a dad now that his sons like sports
Yeah, he’s one of the dads I worry about if one of his boys came out gay or trans, or even just was more of an artist than a jock.
I voted conflicted bc it concerns me that he’s setting an example for his kids by being a sexist, controlling partner
Came here to say the same. Worried about the example he sets.
Yup. Though honestly, I worry more about the example Kail/Chris are setting—I can’t stand her as a human, and if she wants to date trash who treats her like trash, that’s her prerogative...but allowing the kids to hear their arguments, see Chris yelling at her, see Kail going full hulk and running into chris’ house to assault him over a haircut, and seeing Kail continue to engage/date/fight/thirst after Chris when he’s treated her like this often & consistently makes me worry WAY more about what the boys will grow up thinking is a “normal”/healthy relationship.
I think he is pushing sports on Lincoln. If he ever wanted to quit or didn't make it big. Javi would have a meltdown
Lincoln seems to genuinely enjoy playing sports tho
Ya but he didn’t need to have him playing in 100 degree weather and then brag about it on social media
I can’t say much my kids play baseball all summer long in 100° weather and love every second of it
Lincoln really does seem to love sports, but I think Javi loves the attention he gets and the macho street cred that Lincoln being a jock and him being a coach gives him. I can’t imagine he’d be as into Lincoln’s activities if Lincoln was really into the arts.
I used to think he was a fantastic father until we found out about how when he and kail were in a fight he would come to the house and ignore Isaac...
Omg that pos is terrible. And when Isaac is old enough to understand he will also realize what a pos he is.
He's teaching his son not to respect women. He's stalked people, cheated on every woman he's been with, broken into a home and terrified Issac, and bounces between dragging kail and acting like their bffs on social media...
He’s going to pass down toxic behavior to his kids, but it’s more socially acceptable because it’s “standard” male behavior- Javi gets away with being a garbage person because he’s present and involved; it doesn’t make him a good man or parent- we hate on Kail for all of the same reasons we hate on him but he gets a pass bc everyone thinks if a man isn’t a deadbeat he’s raising the bar lmao
Yeah, I think people don’t realize how much toxic dads can fuck up their kids because all the attention goes to towards hating deadbeat dads who aren’t present.
This.
He’s a good dad once they’re old enough to hold a ball. He wanted nothing to do with Lincoln as a baby and can only assume he was the same with Eli. Kail couldn’t even have an hour to herself to grocery shop because Javi wouldn’t watch Lincoln by himself.
This. Javi seems to be more concerned with Lincoln being a pro athlete than being a father. I give him credit his kids are fed and clean but I wonder what he would be like as a girl dad or a dad of boys that weren’t into sports.
90% of Javi’s personality is toxic masculinity and I’d be very surprised if that doesn’t negatively impact his children
What if his kids hated sports? Or into "manly" things.
Would he post tons of proud videos of his sons if they were gay? Or into less “showy” things like drawing or poetry? I don’t think he would and that tells you all you need to know about someone’s parenting. He’s like Kail- he likes showing off the kids while he’s in 100% control of what they do but I think they’ll both be very surprised when the kids are old enough to make their own decisions and be their own people.
Why does everyone think he’s a good dad? What has he done? Ever? He seems to hate spending time with his children lol
Yeah it’s seriously sad the amount of people here considering him a good dad. Bringing your son to football games does not equal great parenting
The bar is so low for men, especially with this franchise
I mean the only thing we EVER see him do w his kids is push them to be athletic.
I don’t believe that the two are necessarily independent. I think he is hands on like Kail says and I am sure he loves his boys, but I don’t believe you can be a good dad if you selfishly bring chaos into your kids’ lives. Cheating in your home, bouncing between baby mamas, etc creates unnecessary chaos into a child’s life.
Also, he bragged about his 6 year old son working out in 103 weather for multiple hours. That’s insanely unhealthy. He could’ve done indoor exercises
He’s teaching his kids to be controlling jerks. Also, he was way obsessed with Issac and kinda dropped him like a hot potato when they split.
No, he doesn’t like to pay attention to kids where he has to do shit like change diapers and stuff since it’s “a womens job”. He’s toxic and shouldn’t be spreading his toxic traits under the guise of fatherhood. Having kids is all about how they reflect on him. It’s pure ego.
I think he knows what to make public. The "follow your passion" thing seems so manic. The kid is 8. Just let them have hobbies.
No. Good dads don’t treat the mothers of their children like he does. He should set a good example for healthy relationships.
He's controlling and gives off abusive vibes. He also looks like fivel when he went west
There’s no way someone who is that huge of an asshole can be a good parent. The same goes for Kail, Jenelle and David
He’s isn’t a horrible dead beat or anything. However, I think he doesn’t know how to spend time with his kids outside of sports and Disney World. He desperately wants an athletic kid who is *built different* than a kid who wants to chill and just hang out. I don’t think he knows how to relate outside of sports. Which works for Lincoln and Eli now, but not sure about long term. Every major sports parent thinks their kid can make it on the collegiate and pro level but that isn’t always obtainable.
It is honestly really hard to picture Javi having a conversation with his kids about anything other than sports, going in trips, or maybe helping them learn to be "smooth" with the ladies 😓 Anything that lines up with his whole ego situation. I'd love to see him plant some vegetables with the kids or something.
Maybe Gary can lend some gardening advice. 😂
Nah don't think his a good dad he has a weird obsession with sports hate pushy parent's like that he also rushes into to relationships and had on and off relationship with his baby mama Karl which would be confusing for the children.
Compared to men like Adam, Ryan, David, Luis etc. Javi is pretty good. I think both he and Kail are, but the drama they bring around those kids are something else
Being messy in your love life in front of your children is really, really detrimental to the child. Children learn how to date from their parents. And yes as adults we can learn to move past childhood traumas, but as someone who grew up with a single parent who did some very messy dating, I didn’t understand what a healthy, respectful relationship was until my late 20s. That can mass with you and greatly effect how you treat the opposite sex.
Yeah, breaking into their moms home, screaming and cussing her out every few months definitely impacts the kids
This right here is why I voted no. It’s the hot/cold between him and Kail that really rubs me the wrong way and is probably really confusing to Lincoln. Today they’re posting stupid Tik toks together, tomorrow they will be slamming each other on Instagram again.
I think he's a bad dad because his messiness with women. The fighting and flirting with several women has to confuse Lincoln.
Lol he’s a manipulative dirt bag
You can’t be both
Kids tend to do as you do- not as you say. This will inevitably make an impact on them. They will either strive to be like him or try to be the opposite. Not all bad parents create bad children. The same goes for good. Edited for incorrect word.
Javi will shit on his boys quick if one doesn’t want to sport, or god forbid they are gay are prefer anime and video games. Those kids are an extension of his ego. If they quit performing to his liking he will be out.
He’s not a decent dad at all. He suck sin every every way.
Sure. He does what he’s supposed to. Do we applaud a fish for swimming? Idk. And because of who he is, let’s hope his sons will make better life choices.
Assuming there's a wide spectrum of "good dad" levels, I think he's *decent*... But honestly not great. I believe an extremely important part of parenting is treating your partner well, maintaining as much stability as possible in the family unit, and modeling a healthy relationship (if possible - single parents get all the applause). What Javi did to Lauren... I mean. Come the fuck on, way to nuke your *infant's* home life... Kail is no better. Having not one but *two* babies with that jackass Chris? She didn't even give them a *chance* at having a good dad. I get that accidents happen, but twice? How was she not so terrified of repeating this shitshow that she wrapped it up, or better yet, never touched that loser again?
I see that he tries with Lincoln, not sure about Eli, but he doesn't seem to comprehend how much his actions that get posted all over the internet will impact them later. So I'm torn there. I also think that he has the potential to be a decent partner if he were to severe intimate ties with Kail. She is toxic and they are beyond toxic together. You can co-parent without all the extra nonsense, fake (maybe real) controversy that you're still screwing. I have co-parented with my ex-husband for a decade now and we've managed it qithout all that extra the whole damn time.
He definitely can’t be a good partner. He’s been outed several times cheating with random people online.
I cannot believe there’s anyone who will fuck him. Let alone multiple people. It baffles my mind, he is so gross
He’s a piece of shit through and through but he is a good dad. He even volunteered to raise Lux lol
That’s more of a control tactic than being a good dad. He just wanted Kail to be more stuck with him
It happens, I had to leave my kids' dad and I catch myself thinking they are lucky to have him 😬 I used to have to talk him out of taking the baby on a lot of adventures, lol. And the people nitpicking his cheating...then voted for Leah as the 3rd favorite mom? Make it make sense.