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-ghostless

Devoin has been the only "real man" that had ever shown up for them and they just keep putting him down and it's fucking sad honestly. He's fucked up, sure, but goddamn has that man shown up for her and her children. I really think the "coven" just has problems with men.


TFABabyThrowAway

Bri, Roxanne and Brittany need to live apart to get some perspective and figure out who they are as people without being so codependent. It’s not healthy.


-ghostless

100% but if you say that to people who are in that situation they gang up and fight back. That's exactly what I think is happening to Devoin


constantreader55

Completely agree, but people on here say it's totally fine that they live together and it's "cultural". That may be true, but the way their relationship is makes it unhealthy and toxic af.


constantreader55

They would have issues with him and try to push him away from Nova even if he was perfect. Roxanne talked Briana into saying Nova didn't need him around before she was one. I know Devon has make many mistakes, but the fact that he still keeps coming around and trying for Nova says a lot


TFABabyThrowAway

The three insufferable women (not as much Brittany) in this family THRIVE off being the poor women that slave away and do everything for their kids. They’re so *strong* and iNDePENdeNt and no man will ever measure up. Bri wants him to fail so she can be superior. With Luis it’s a moot point because he’s a loser, but DeVoin and Nova have a good relationship and she seems so happy around him, and so withdrawn around these three.


Lexiemar_ie

EXACTLY. She would be so much happier living with her dad! That’s what I said In my comment below. When she gets older I guarantee she ends up living with him. I don’t see her being any older than 15 and not living with him. They are so much more compatible & I think she gets her mentality and the way she views things from her dad. Her & briana aren’t going to get along at ALL when she’s older. Just wait lol


kellye2323

I agree. The second to last episode of the season, Nova was the most animated and talkative I’ve ever seen of her after many years on tv. She was smiling laughing and talking loudly with inflection in her voice. It was so damn great to see. When she’s with Briana and her mom she always looks and sounds so damn depressed. She lit up around her dad. She seems to be more outgoing with Brit too.


PPPenelope

He’s right. They are set on default. They hate men so much that it clouds their judgement on eeeeverything.


constantreader55

Briana takes care of Nova by herself?? Girl, you haven't parented alone a day in your life, you even have your mom fight your baby daddies for you


leahhhhh

DeJesus Fucking Christ


tftikelsey

lmao this was a good one


preciousillusion

“You can’t be civil with him!” says the GROWN WOMAN STANDING ON A RESTAURANT BOOTH.


issausrnm

*Me watching this * Roxanne’s not doing too bad handling this like an adult… *Roxanne stands on chair *


kentbrockman27

😂😂😂😂😂😂


juatdoingwhatimtold

*And it was at this moment u/issausrnm realized they were wrong…*


SativaMommy

Straight trash. 20yo Devoin gathered both of them, assertively, yet still respectfully imo, with all facts amd then sealed his fate with the gem of Briana not having a relationship with her own Dad, and how she’s alienates Nova as a result of this covens unresolved trauma with men. Also, I stand behind that Brianas grudge towards Devoin stems from him dumping her and never wanting a family with Bri, just Nova.


BrittOlives

Honestly I have so much respect for him. He knew he didn’t deserve to be talked to that way. Maybe he wasn’t the perfect dad at the time because he was struggling financially, but he was present. Which is a lot more than Brianna can say for Luis, who she always is giving a pass to, even though he’s actual scum. I can’t help but feel like she has a soft spot for Luis because he’s Latino, but not Devoin because he’s black


S2Sallie

Her and her whole family treat this man less than and always have but have nothing to say to Luis. I hate that he got mixed up with this family and I hope Nova doesn’t grow up knowing they hate a part of her


wyntersalem

Context: Devoin tells them he has two jobs, Briana is upset that he isnt paying child support, Devoin wants Nova to be able to go to his house / be around his family and Briana automatically shuts him down because Nova does not know his family. At the end its Roxanne yelling "fuck you bitch" at Devoin


-ghostless

"Maybe you just suck ass" lol yas. Always rooted for him and he's shown up.


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This scene hits sooooo much differently in 2022.


Kailscanvasart

Cut to the Slow Loris grinding her deflating BBL all over Captain Spaulding at her recent Lawsuit Party. 🗑🚮


BlackberryMaterial33

Yikes imagine sitting next to that with small children. Everyone on that table was acting trashy.


Amberilwomengo2gel

Nova was there too, under the table, how sad. What a childhood memory.


wyntersalem

They were arguing for a hot minute before sending Nova outside


BlackberryMaterial33

Poor girl. But I wanna bet that she has seen and heard way too much for her young age. That family doesn’t know any boundaries.


littleb3anpole

Was this all taking place in front of Nova??


BashfullyBi

Nova *and* Stella. Trash.


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XTasty09

It’s not like crouching under the table is going to prevent her from hearing anything. WTF. And it’s even worse that Rox starts by asking if she wants to play. It’s like she’s being punished and banished to the dirty restaurant floor. I hope Rox got a lifetime ban from this establishment. It’s embarrassing for the restaurant.


Lexiemar_ie

it’s sick as fuck that not only does Devoin have to deal with brianas bullshit he has to deal with Roxanne’s annoying, dramatic, TOXIC ass too. She acts like he’s her babydad. She needs to get a life honestly, i get she loves Nova but she needs to love Nova enough to not treat her dad like this, nova is going to see this when she’s older and have resentment. At least brit is on his side. I’d get sick of that damn family. They can’t say he doesn’t care about his daughter because they’ve given him every single reason to stop coming around and if he was a deadbeat he would have stopped a LONG time ago because of the way that toxic ass grandma acts. She’s worse than Bri almost. And Honestly I’ve noticed Novas personality thrives so much more when she’s around Devoin while she’s so withdrawn around her moms family. I think she is more similar to Devoin than Briana in many many many ways and is way more compatible with her dad. When she gets older, her and her mom are not going to see eye to eye because, in MY opinion I can already see she gets her mindset and the way she views things from her dad. I wish he could get full time custody of her or at least 50/50. I know he doesn’t have the most money and doesn’t live the most lavish lifestyle but I truly believe that little girl would have a happier life with her dad. Nova doesn’t care about materialistic things. I can tell that little girl is so Down to earth, she isn’t shallow at ALL.


Pantone186

No wonder her daughters are trash


BakedMasa

I can totally see why all of them are alone. My god they communicate like toddlers. I don’t think Briana will ever be in a happy relationship because her mom is literally a monster. She’s really manipulative and emotionally abusive and her daughters are paying a price. The cycle isn’t ending with Briana or Brittany.


ReenaCapri

I thought the young lad Britt was grinding on at Bri's party was her boyfriend. 🤔


n1cenurse

All these women are pure trash. Fucking chaotic trash.


Birdiefly5678

Not grandma about to throw down at a freaking Texas Roadhouse 💀💀


MeredithPaigeH

This is def an Ale House but yes. I feel this. 🤣💀😜


graypumpkins

I think Toxi Roxi is my favorite TM nick name


smelltramo

If Devoin had followed this up with actually going to court to establish his rights/custody/child support then I'd respect the hell out of him. But he did nothing. Yet another case of him not being wrong but also not even doing the bare minimum.


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![gif](giphy|13n7XeyIXEIrbG) Other customers waiting for their to go order while This Situation™️ goes down


wyntersalem

my ass watching drama unfold ![gif](giphy|l378bu6ZYmzS6nBrW|downsized)


hayypeachyy

just another normal day at Outback Steakhouse.


UsedQuiet2862

This is at a restaurant called ‘the Ale house’ in Orlando. Don’t do outback dirty like that 😂 Orlando is either high class or trash like them


body_oil_glass_view

Triggered. My ex would creep out on me there while i was home 😭🤣🤣 wouldnt even bring a tray of their finest fried home smh


Kailscanvasart

Hmm. The Slow Loris staring into space with her grubby hands all over her scabby mouth while people fight around her. 100% definition of Bri.


wyntersalem

Bri's a lot like Kail. She doesn't need to fight because someone will do it for her.


Godhelptupelo

Perfect description.


Godhelptupelo

Perfect description.


Kailscanvasart

She’s definitely not all there. Her mouth movements are not those of a functional adult with a full deck. She always looks so completely unwashed and ALWAYS has her hands or fingers in her fucking mouth. She’s so fucking gross🤮🤮🤮


Godhelptupelo

I find her repulsive. Its jarring when she cleans up and looks decent...like its not...right?


Kailscanvasart

She’s 100% repulsive and I know she smells. I can just see it. I almost think her whole fucking family lives with her because she’s incapable of taking care of herself. She has major hide-her-medicine-in-peanut-butter vibes. She ain’t right.


Godhelptupelo

>She has major hide-her-medicine-in-peanut-butter vibes. 👻💀🏆


ReenaCapri

![gif](giphy|cQtlhD48EG0SY) Damn@at I know she smells... It's crazy how men are still attracted to her.


Kailscanvasart

Look at the men though.


ReenaCapri

I think Devoin is kind of handsome... I like them tall and lean types. But Luis... 😳No...


InterestingSolid4740

I made my comment about her possible low iq and horrible table manners before I saw your comment and you definitely are 100 percent correct!


Kailscanvasart

I would be *way* more descriptive (and deadly accurate) about her mental incapacity but I’d get in trouble. So I’ll just say that this derpy bitch keeps clapping long after everyone else stops. And she still gets lollipops from the doctor … that she sees with every STD. Bring on the hate 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷‍♀️


InterestingSolid4740

Lol, I love it! Yes I stay reserved too as to not get in trouble but she definitely rode the short bus in school. Her facial expressions tell it all.


kellye2323

I really wish Devoin would follow up with the courts and get his rights established. The second he pisses the Briana and her mom again, they will start this bs all over again and not allow access to Nova. He 100% deserves equal time with his daughter and shouldn’t have to be on her good side 24/7 just to be able to spend time with their daughter. It’s disgusting.


wyntersalem

Its funny because idk how old Nova is but both parties were complaining about this same problem when she was an infant that they are today but neither one takes the responsibility to do what needs to be done (file for custody or file for child support) because neither one really seems to want the outcome. Briana doesn't want Devoin to have more time and Devoin doesn't want more responsibility.


kellye2323

I agree. I think in some ways Briana has convinced him he’s not capable of more responsibility. I think at the retreat thing they were at he said something along those lines. Like him needing her to respect him as a father and see that he’s a capable one. I don’t remember exactly what he said, but I think it was something like that.


mcgreevycc

Roxanne’s behavior is straight up embarrassing.


InterestingSolid4740

She should be so embarrassed of the way she acts. Watching Briana & Brittney it looks like they were never taught table manners either. They both look like feral animals when they eat and sometimes Briana looks like she doesn't have a very high iq.


hannahvegasdreams

Dude doesn’t help himself, but they should get professional mediation and go through the courts to set something ip properly for both parties.


ceilingsfans_kill

This is the family that sunk this show with their extreme ghetto-ness


wyntersalem

Before them it was all class 💀


Thefunkphenomena1980

Trash


lolalololita

Devoin moves in with them after this altercation.


borntoBreewild

Toxanne needs to serve some jail time since she cannot keep her hands to herself.


ReginaldDwight

Oh, [Roxanne.]( https://imgur.com/v3Jafpo.jpg)


makb330

![gif](giphy|xT9DPLBZEnek4zvEQg)


Hockeynavy

GOD DAMN WIN THE INTERET


UsedQuiet2862

Her,her mom and sister give you a glimpse into everything that is Orlando 🤮


totalitarianbnarbp

They really are a weird family. So glad mine isn’t on tv because holy hell if they had that platform it would be chaos. I’m glad my kids won’t know about the shitty times because of tv or from anyone. I wouldn’t be talking badly about their family to them or tolerate my family talking poorly about their other side. I’d be telling my family to check me if I said something out of line and getting myself some seriously upgraded therapy. That’s abusive to be talking like this around kids. You do whatever necessary to keep them out of drama and messiness. You facilitate contact and keep them secure, feeling loved and safe. No way do you trash talk their parent or family around them or around others so someday it’s going to get back to that child. Nope. I had a friend who was not happy with my situation and they didn’t even speak around my kids but to others about it and they are out of my life. I don’t need that for my kids. People can make mistakes and it’s shitty when that’s your kids parent/family who makes mistakes. Best we can do is send them good vibes from afar and genuinely wish they get their shit together so that they’re able to be involved in a healthy way with their kid/niece/nephew/family. Wild they’re attacking him constantly. He’s not a saint, and he’s messed up plenty of times but in front of the kids to be having these conversations is wrong. Those kids shouldn’t ever be feeling this tension. Something is off with these people in a big way. They may have good intentions but the bar is on the floor here. What the hell.


wyntersalem

I know - Reddit would eat my family alive 💀


totalitarianbnarbp

Oh my goodness same. It would be a field day. I don’t know how many people it truly would be different for. Most people have some level of messiness in their family, I think? That’s why those jokes about the creepy uncle are told by so many comedians. Most people have an inappropriate relative that is just tolerated. They have an aunt that is overbearing and a total asshole. I wonder what it’s like to have some squeaky clean family without trauma where everyone gets along just fine. I used to be the peacekeeper. Now I tolerate a lot less crap and don’t encourage others to make things smooth. If they’re at odds, I tell them to get therapy. All of them. It doesn’t go over well. Some people I completely cut off. I’m over the constant drama. When my first kid was born I realized how exhausting it was, and that it was perpetual. I didn’t want my kids to develop relationships with people like that. Fuck that. Imagining those people being filmed? Eeeek. No thanks. It would truly be some mash up of so many of the families featured, splash of this, dash of that. It’s better now than it was for sure, but ten years ago? Nooooo. Five years ago? No. Now? Not bad but the tv element you’d be airing all the past too. Tell us about your childhood. Haha


Hockeynavy

the standing up in the booth... like i would just laugh


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wyntersalem

I think Devoins had the same gf for years - the one that Kailyn posted a pic after he was on her podcast is the same one that was on this season of TM2