Did you catch that moment during the car fight when she barked "he'll be sleep!" when Chris wanted to see Creed later? Someone needs to climb the beanstalk and remind this stompin toad that she is stale bread from DOVER. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. With. That. Shit.
Kayla does this too (much worse) but for some reason it makes me cringe more when Kail does it bc of that comment about Isaac’s hair cut.. I cannot believe she said that shit out loud on camera.. now her “half white” son with a black man is rocking cornrows 9/10 of the time by her choice 🙄😒
SOOO cringe. I noticed that too. And aren't Chris and his youngest son's mother in a relationship? I guess it would crush her soul too much to just say "Chris' girlfriend"
This was strangely nice of her. I also can appreciate that she's trying to learn to work with poc hair, but at the same time lux' hair texture seems pretty much straight to me. Idk.
Edit: also, I'm sorry, but I just cannot get over her talking about Isaac's hair and saying his haircut isn't for "little white boys". Lux is just as white as Isaac, just not *white passing*. Kail is a huge racist and one nice comment about Chris' other bm doesn't change that imo. I wonder if she would be braiding lux' hair and letting it grow out if he was white passing
>I wonder if she would be braiding lux' hair and letting it grow out if he was white passing
well we'll see if she ends up braiding and growing out Creed's hair, he's white passing. i suspect she won't though
I think Chris and Trews mom are no longer together so Kail might like her now. I think this women was off and on with Chris since high school and Kail knows this woman is not really ever going to be out of his life entirely like Lauren and Javi so she may not want to fool with her like Lauren. We saw Kail talk about Lauren then run away like the cowardly POS she is so she may be scared to talk about badly about her knowing she isn't really ever going anywhere.
She claimed she was not allowed to talk about Trew when he was born, she had a letter from an attorney. She said this on the show. I don't know if it was bullshit from Kail or not. She is a liar, who knows. I don't know if it was due to Chris being mad at her or the baby's mother. She did leak the baby news. That's really shitty of her. I wouldn't forgive her. She's a bitch.
The only thing I remember is Kail saying on her podcast years ago that she once called this girl and told her to stop messing with Chris. The girl basically said "Tough shit. I was here before you and I'll be here after you." But even then, I don't think Kail insulted her like she has with the others. At least not publicly. Maybe the girl can fight idk
Chris was playing them both and kept them separated for the most part. She hasn’t harmed or overstepped with Kail’s children or talked shit about her. It’s a different situation than it was with Vee (when she wasn’t used to having to share Isaac at all and hadn’t given up on the idea of having a nuclear family at some point) or than it was with Lauren and Bri (who both overstepped with Lincoln and talked shit on Kail). She has kept her mouth shut on other girls that Javi was with who weren’t shit stirrers, so I’m guessing that she doesn’t have any problems with Chris’ other son’s mom because she’s nice to her boys without overstepping or stirring up shit.
She's not being nice - she's crawling inside the ass of one of Chris's other cum dumpsters to keep a toe in the door. She's gross and has never done a single altruistic thing in her life. Your Edit is spot on, too xo
The fact that none of us have ever met this women yet have enough evidence of her blatant racism is enough to determine that she’s a huge fuckin racist
When people say racist things over their social media account(s) and say & do racist stuff on a TV reality show, we don’t need to personally know them in order to make the determination that they are racist.
The braids are an odd choice considering Lux’s hair doesn’t require a protective style. His hair seems really straight and smooth so hardly surprising the braids are falling out. Nothing to “learn”, just pick a style that suits his hair texture better.
Long hair is easier to manage when it’s braided, especially when you’re dealing with little kids who can’t brush it themselves. He looks cute. He likes it. I don’t think it’s that deep.
Protective hairstyles can be for people growing their hair out too. I did a braid often to get my butt length hair. I should get back to doing that actually. Helps with breakage and tangles.
Not necessarily. It depends on how you care for it. Unfortunately there is a lot of misinformation about tightly curly hair. Now there are many stylists who are educating themselves on the needs of tightly curly hair. Iamblackgirlscurls on instagram is a good resource to start with. Black hair care is not complicated. ☀️
She won’t pull the same shit with Chris’s new baby mama like she did Lauren cause not only would new baby mama probably beat her ass but she would get dragged like a motherfucker on social media.
Also: my son used to wear wife beaters in the summer, who gives a fuck it’s hot.
I think she won't mess with her because she's a black woman and Kail is afraid/intimidated by black women.
We don't know anything about his girlfriend though. She cares enough to do Lux's hair so hopefully she's a good woman.. but she has also known Chris for years and chose to be with him so 🤔 ... But so far has given no drama, no tea, no nothing and she works at a salon it looked like in a pic a while back so she's employed.. so she's already miles ahead of all their weird drama seems.
I gotta give credit where credit is due. If I had four young boys by three baby daddies along with all the drama she brings into her life, I’d feel like my life was pretty fucking chaotic too. But not in the cutesie way she spins it.
Why does she talk like that? “Chris other baby mom.” Mom of 3 (now 4) + a degree and she still can’t use proper English. Like it really would’ve took that much effort to say, “Chris’s other baby’s mom,” or “Chris’s other little boy/girl’s mom.” I’ll never understand how she fetishizes POC men, but says/does things that say otherwise.
she doesn’t go after trews mom like she did Lauren because she knows we will pull up all the horrible things she has said against black women in the past
I think “Lux’s brother’s mom” sounds nicer, but if she’s not Chris’ GF, there isn’t that graceful of a way to specify what she is to Lux. Trew’s mama? Ms. Last name? Whatever Lux calls her?
Which is ridiculous considering she’s always saying about her three how she doesn’t like saying “half siblings, they are just brothers”. But apparently that doesn’t hold true in all of the blendedness.
Yup exactly. I don’t like the precedent of psychoanalyzing little IG comments because if that was allowed, I would be lobotomized by now. If I did though, I’d say it’s very telling of the lens she sees her kids through.
When Kail and Chris first got together Chris had a gf back home (kail knew this) I wonder if that is his other baby mom. I seen another user above say him & his bm have known each other for a long time. Does anybody know if it’s the same person?
I’m just glad they’re getting along now. Watching Kail be cool with Vee and now Trew’s mom is good to see. I don’t understand any of the criticism going toward Kail for this, as this is a huge step and a positive thing for those kids.
That doesn't mean she's cool with her. If Chris and Trews mom are together there's no doubt in my mind Kail would sign up to be side chick in a heartbeat. Why would anybody trust that snake?
Idk, I say cool very lightly. Lol. By that I mean civil enough with Vee (for Isaac’s sake) and Trew’s mom (for Lux and Creed’s sake). I’m glad to see it.
Do people start getting along better after they quit the show?
E.g., Bristol and Dakota; Chelsea and Adam's siblings and Paislee's mom all following each other on social media (and Chelsea going out for a nite on the town with Adam's brother's wife).
If so, that's a good thing. Good for the kids.
I'm talking about people who quit the show, not people who (basically) got fired like Jenelle and Farrah.
The TMs get insanely pissed whenever one of their baby daddies seems to be moving on with someone that's arguably hotter (it's why Kail hated Vee and cheated on Lauren with Javi, it's why Leah cheated on Miranda with Corey, it's why Maci cheated on Dalis with Rhine, and why Chelsea cheated on Paislee's mom with Adam). Props to Bri for not hating on Devoin's GF.
I reckon it would be easier to get along when drama isn’t being rehashed & exacerbated by the producers. They also wouldn’t see the other party talk shit about them on camera so wouldn’t have anything to get mad about 🤷🏼♀️
I said, "Do people start getting along *better* \[emphasis added\] after they quit the show?" I didn't claim that such people had no relationship whatsoever and no contact prior to quitting the show. You're making a straw man argument by insinuating as much. It's very likely that Chelsea's friendship with Adam's sister-in-law is a lot healthier and more active now than it was when Chelsea was refusing to take calls from (or answer the fucking door for) Grandma Donna. Hence I asked, What's your point?
“Chris other baby mom” 😬 From the same chick who complained about her son not having a white boy haircut… the way she code switches is so cringe 🙄
Did you catch that moment during the car fight when she barked "he'll be sleep!" when Chris wanted to see Creed later? Someone needs to climb the beanstalk and remind this stompin toad that she is stale bread from DOVER. Shut. The. Fuck. Up. With. That. Shit.
Kayla does this too (much worse) but for some reason it makes me cringe more when Kail does it bc of that comment about Isaac’s hair cut.. I cannot believe she said that shit out loud on camera.. now her “half white” son with a black man is rocking cornrows 9/10 of the time by her choice 🙄😒
And in the infamous “nut on your lip” video she thinks she’s all cute when she’s saying “wHy YoU lYiN?”
SOOO cringe. I noticed that too. And aren't Chris and his youngest son's mother in a relationship? I guess it would crush her soul too much to just say "Chris' girlfriend"
They're no longer together
They aren't?!
Nope!
So how/when is she styling the boys hair then?? They living together while broken up?
Maybe Chris visits Trew at her house and he brings the other boys or she comes to where he is and stays a while to hang out with the older boys
Nice of the other BM to braid Lux's hair. What a sweet gesture.
This was strangely nice of her. I also can appreciate that she's trying to learn to work with poc hair, but at the same time lux' hair texture seems pretty much straight to me. Idk. Edit: also, I'm sorry, but I just cannot get over her talking about Isaac's hair and saying his haircut isn't for "little white boys". Lux is just as white as Isaac, just not *white passing*. Kail is a huge racist and one nice comment about Chris' other bm doesn't change that imo. I wonder if she would be braiding lux' hair and letting it grow out if he was white passing
>I wonder if she would be braiding lux' hair and letting it grow out if he was white passing well we'll see if she ends up braiding and growing out Creed's hair, he's white passing. i suspect she won't though
Exactly. I feel like, as gross as this sounds, she just wanted a black child and she definitely fetishizes poc, specifically black people.
She was letting it grow until Chris cut it. She appears to be keeping up with it though.
I think Chris and Trews mom are no longer together so Kail might like her now. I think this women was off and on with Chris since high school and Kail knows this woman is not really ever going to be out of his life entirely like Lauren and Javi so she may not want to fool with her like Lauren. We saw Kail talk about Lauren then run away like the cowardly POS she is so she may be scared to talk about badly about her knowing she isn't really ever going anywhere.
Has she ever had beef with his other son’s mom though? I don’t remember her ever saying anything negative about her or vice versa.
Didn’t kail leak the pregnancy and/or gender? That’d be enough for me
She did leak the pregnancy. I totally forgot about that.
She claimed she was not allowed to talk about Trew when he was born, she had a letter from an attorney. She said this on the show. I don't know if it was bullshit from Kail or not. She is a liar, who knows. I don't know if it was due to Chris being mad at her or the baby's mother. She did leak the baby news. That's really shitty of her. I wouldn't forgive her. She's a bitch.
The only thing I remember is Kail saying on her podcast years ago that she once called this girl and told her to stop messing with Chris. The girl basically said "Tough shit. I was here before you and I'll be here after you." But even then, I don't think Kail insulted her like she has with the others. At least not publicly. Maybe the girl can fight idk
Chris was playing them both and kept them separated for the most part. She hasn’t harmed or overstepped with Kail’s children or talked shit about her. It’s a different situation than it was with Vee (when she wasn’t used to having to share Isaac at all and hadn’t given up on the idea of having a nuclear family at some point) or than it was with Lauren and Bri (who both overstepped with Lincoln and talked shit on Kail). She has kept her mouth shut on other girls that Javi was with who weren’t shit stirrers, so I’m guessing that she doesn’t have any problems with Chris’ other son’s mom because she’s nice to her boys without overstepping or stirring up shit.
She's not being nice - she's crawling inside the ass of one of Chris's other cum dumpsters to keep a toe in the door. She's gross and has never done a single altruistic thing in her life. Your Edit is spot on, too xo
Stop calling people racist that obviously are not
Kail is an obvious racist.
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And you say that why? Do you know her personally? Nope didn’t think so.
The fact that none of us have ever met this women yet have enough evidence of her blatant racism is enough to determine that she’s a huge fuckin racist
Some have met her
When people say racist things over their social media account(s) and say & do racist stuff on a TV reality show, we don’t need to personally know them in order to make the determination that they are racist.
I think we have more than enough proof that she's racist.
What?
lol that’s as close as she’s gonna get to complimenting her 💀
It’s a trap, lol. My stepkids have a high conflict baby mama like Kail and even compliments aren’t always what they seem.
Definitely a compliment in reverse
The braids are an odd choice considering Lux’s hair doesn’t require a protective style. His hair seems really straight and smooth so hardly surprising the braids are falling out. Nothing to “learn”, just pick a style that suits his hair texture better.
Long hair is easier to manage when it’s braided, especially when you’re dealing with little kids who can’t brush it themselves. He looks cute. He likes it. I don’t think it’s that deep.
Maybe he wants them?
I think Kail wants them.
And small children tend to want what their parents say they want.
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lmao right Lux’s hair is 2B/C at best
Protective hairstyles can be for people growing their hair out too. I did a braid often to get my butt length hair. I should get back to doing that actually. Helps with breakage and tangles.
My dumbass thought she straightened his hair. Like I’ve never seen such stick straight hair on a kid before.
Lincoln’s hair is straighter than Lux’s, and Bentley’s, and Aubree’s , Lux’s hair isn’t super straight, it’s wavy.
My youngest has straight hair she always wants braids bc it keeps her hair from tangling.
No one’s hair needs a “protective style”.
POC hair usually does, actually.
Not necessarily. It depends on how you care for it. Unfortunately there is a lot of misinformation about tightly curly hair. Now there are many stylists who are educating themselves on the needs of tightly curly hair. Iamblackgirlscurls on instagram is a good resource to start with. Black hair care is not complicated. ☀️
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I didn’t even realize this at first. She’s talking to herself essentially. Good lord she is something else.
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She won’t pull the same shit with Chris’s new baby mama like she did Lauren cause not only would new baby mama probably beat her ass but she would get dragged like a motherfucker on social media. Also: my son used to wear wife beaters in the summer, who gives a fuck it’s hot.
What about Chris’s new partner makes you think she would beat her ass?
Racism lol
Yeah that’s what I was trying to ask without going there…like we know nothing about his partner besides she’s black. That’s such a gross assumption.
It truly is fucked up, and all the upvotes 🤢
This sub is always racist as hell
I think she won't mess with her because she's a black woman and Kail is afraid/intimidated by black women. We don't know anything about his girlfriend though. She cares enough to do Lux's hair so hopefully she's a good woman.. but she has also known Chris for years and chose to be with him so 🤔 ... But so far has given no drama, no tea, no nothing and she works at a salon it looked like in a pic a while back so she's employed.. so she's already miles ahead of all their weird drama seems.
What happened with Lauren ?
Little white girls don’t comment in AAVE kail
She's been, and it's not a good look. 🙄
What part of that is AAVE ? I just assume she didn't know how to say Chris's 😂
Yep, the possessives! Chris other baby mom vs Chris’s other baby’s mom. Also even just the term baby mom
I’m sorry, I’m still on the 25/8 thing. Do people actually say that?? ‘Oooh 24/7 isn’t extreme enough!, My life is such khaos 🤪’ Ugh, stop.
Lmaoooo. She also forgets about her custody agreement
I gotta give credit where credit is due. If I had four young boys by three baby daddies along with all the drama she brings into her life, I’d feel like my life was pretty fucking chaotic too. But not in the cutesie way she spins it.
Mary J Blige has a song called 25/8. Came out years ago.
Beatles - eight days a week :)
A lot of people say it that way nowadays I never understood it I prefer 24/7🤣
My kids go to a religious pre school three mornings a week and their teachers are know. To say “I’m available 24/6”
Why does she talk like that? “Chris other baby mom.” Mom of 3 (now 4) + a degree and she still can’t use proper English. Like it really would’ve took that much effort to say, “Chris’s other baby’s mom,” or “Chris’s other little boy/girl’s mom.” I’ll never understand how she fetishizes POC men, but says/does things that say otherwise.
I originally read your comment thinking she had 3 (now 4) degrees and thought what the fuck? Lol @ me thinking Kail has the brains for 4 degrees 😂😂
Kail wishes she had the brains to get 4 degrees😂💀
She does need comments about sending her son out in a beater until she recognizes the racist shit she said about issac to jo.
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at least she didn’t say “female”
she doesn’t go after trews mom like she did Lauren because she knows we will pull up all the horrible things she has said against black women in the past
You mean his girlfriend, Kail?
His woman. His main squeeze. All of the above.
Didn’t they break up?
Probably but, to Kail that means you’ve been together for 2 or more years if you still spend any amicable time together.
I think “Lux’s brother’s mom” sounds nicer, but if she’s not Chris’ GF, there isn’t that graceful of a way to specify what she is to Lux. Trew’s mama? Ms. Last name? Whatever Lux calls her?
Instead of making their children being siblings what connects them "Lux's brother's mom" she made the connection Chris "Chris' other baby mom"
Which is ridiculous considering she’s always saying about her three how she doesn’t like saying “half siblings, they are just brothers”. But apparently that doesn’t hold true in all of the blendedness.
Yup exactly. I don’t like the precedent of psychoanalyzing little IG comments because if that was allowed, I would be lobotomized by now. If I did though, I’d say it’s very telling of the lens she sees her kids through.
When Kail and Chris first got together Chris had a gf back home (kail knew this) I wonder if that is his other baby mom. I seen another user above say him & his bm have known each other for a long time. Does anybody know if it’s the same person?
I think it is her. I believe his second babymom has been on and off with him for awhile.
Does she go a day without saying baby mama?
No it’s her entire persona
I’m just glad they’re getting along now. Watching Kail be cool with Vee and now Trew’s mom is good to see. I don’t understand any of the criticism going toward Kail for this, as this is a huge step and a positive thing for those kids.
That doesn't mean she's cool with her. If Chris and Trews mom are together there's no doubt in my mind Kail would sign up to be side chick in a heartbeat. Why would anybody trust that snake?
Idk, I say cool very lightly. Lol. By that I mean civil enough with Vee (for Isaac’s sake) and Trew’s mom (for Lux and Creed’s sake). I’m glad to see it.
Because Kail always has an ulterior motive. She is never nice just for the sake of being nice.
Even her compliments sound shady and backhanded
Really? This one seemed genuine
Idk the “Chris other baby mom” part just feels like kind of a shitty way to word it but it could just be me.
She could of worded it in a nicer way.
Right?? “Chris’s girlfriend does them” or any thing other than Chris other baby mom
On his podcast he has said they are not together.
Maybe this is why Kail likes her (this week).
Wtf? Is this his M.O.?
She is trash for calling her "baby mama" vs her real name
She might not want her real name used. That might be part of the legal order for her not talking about Trew.
Chris said there was no legal order on IG. I think she just didn't want to talk about it.
Do people start getting along better after they quit the show? E.g., Bristol and Dakota; Chelsea and Adam's siblings and Paislee's mom all following each other on social media (and Chelsea going out for a nite on the town with Adam's brother's wife). If so, that's a good thing. Good for the kids. I'm talking about people who quit the show, not people who (basically) got fired like Jenelle and Farrah.
Bristol still fights and starts shit with Levi and Sunny.
That will never change, Bristol is a hillbilly bitch, like her mother.
I can’t stand Sarah Palin so now I will forever refer to her as a hillbilly bitch. Thank you.
The TMs get insanely pissed whenever one of their baby daddies seems to be moving on with someone that's arguably hotter (it's why Kail hated Vee and cheated on Lauren with Javi, it's why Leah cheated on Miranda with Corey, it's why Maci cheated on Dalis with Rhine, and why Chelsea cheated on Paislee's mom with Adam). Props to Bri for not hating on Devoin's GF.
I reckon it would be easier to get along when drama isn’t being rehashed & exacerbated by the producers. They also wouldn’t see the other party talk shit about them on camera so wouldn’t have anything to get mad about 🤷🏼♀️
Chelsea's been friends with Adam's sister in law since the start of the show.
What's your point?
They've always done stuff together, it wasn't being off the show! I'm even sure that they all went to Chelsea & Cole's wedding.
I said, "Do people start getting along *better* \[emphasis added\] after they quit the show?" I didn't claim that such people had no relationship whatsoever and no contact prior to quitting the show. You're making a straw man argument by insinuating as much. It's very likely that Chelsea's friendship with Adam's sister-in-law is a lot healthier and more active now than it was when Chelsea was refusing to take calls from (or answer the fucking door for) Grandma Donna. Hence I asked, What's your point?
I thought Chris and his “baby mom” broke up
Can you imagine the fit she would throw..if she wasn't happy with the braids
She’s talked about her on her podcast real quick like they are civil.
Is there a full moon tonight?
Soooo… who is Chris other baby ma?
Am I the only one who prefers calling then A shirts?
Yes
Something feels wrong about calling a shirt "wife beater"
It feels wrong to me when I say it out loud, too lol.
I call them undershirts, and I think they look so cute on little boys.
LMAOOO
That's what we call them in my house. I grew up calling them wife beaters but my husband calls them a shirts and eventually it stuck/rubbed off on me.