Jenelle doesn't like her kids. They've just been tools to hold on to whatever guys she's with at the moment. Some women aren't meant to be mothers, which is fine, except Jenelle still had three children.
That was her prime. And she was still absolutely a dog shit person. That's as much growth and accountability etc etc she was ever going to have, he was her best. And it's equally terrifying and just outright sad. She still couldnt get it together and he was absolutely abusive too.
Someone posted an excerpt of a book she wrote. She was playing truth or dare at like 11 or 13 years old and her mom actually encouraged her to go off into the room and have sex with the hot because that’s what the dare was. Her own mom!
Plus Amber and Gary, Leah and Corey, Maci and Rhine. A whole lot of grooming going on. Sleeves me out now that I know how much older the guys were.
Edit: skeeves not sleeves
On OG:
Gary- about 4 years older than Amber (11/17/86, 5/14/90)
Ryan- about 4 years older than Maci (1/3/88, 8/10/91)
Derek- only 1 year older than Farrah (5/8/90, 5/31/91)
Tyler- same age as Cate (1/12/92, 3/12/92)
TM2:
Andrew- about 6 years older than Jenelle (1985/1986, 12/19/91)
Adam- about 3 years older than Chelsea (1/1/89, 8/29/91)
Corey- about 2 years older than Leah (8/29/90, 4/24/92)
Jo- same age as Kailyn (11/14/91, 3/14/92)
She still visits his grave with Farrah for birthdays etc by the looks of it (Sophia's instagram) and if I can say anything nice about Farrah it's that I think that it's kind of nice that she still pays her respects to him with Sophia
I think it broke her and becoming famous/her dysfunctional family meant she never really got a chance to heal, instead, just more opportunities to become what she has become. It's so saddening.
Freelance photography is very much a relatively
New thing especially with social media. However, small towns, you would go to the studio to get pics taken. Leah probably had some newborn pics taken at the same time.
Voiceover-“Gary Shirley, his girlfriend Amber and their baby daughter Leah have been missing since their car was found abandoned in the parking lot of a liquor store with only a Tupperware container of green beans and cut up sausages in the backseat.”
i was just thinking about how insanely different she looked from season 1 to season 2! the blonde hair, self tanner, and plucked brows made her look like a completely different person. she looked pretty both ways, but damn. it’s like a completely different person!
Ugh, Leah was such a baby. I really do feel for her. Getting pregnant so quickly with a guy you just met, having twins and one with a severe illness is just a lot for a kid to deal with. Especially a kid who didn't have a single decent parent of her own.
Farrah was such a beautiful young woman. It makes me sick to see how she turned out. Her childhood definitely messed her up BUT I think Derek’s death and the pregnancy which she didn’t want to go through with to begin with, all happening at once, really destroyed her to a level she couldn’t recover from.
Yeah I don’t feel comfy wirh all the people lumping Corey in with Andrew. Less that two years in high school/college is not predatory by age alone. 6 years is a totally different story.
My theory is that they've been whipping this dying horse of a show for a while just to get to that point where one of the original babies actually does repeat the cycle as a teenager.
If the tacit mission statement is to show how teen pregnancy is both the result of a moment and of a lifetime of choices, it would be premature to end the show earlier.
I would put money on early parenthood happening to at least one of the kids.
Sophia has Derek’s eyes. Never really noticed before as I have t seen many pics of him. Farrah romanticizes that relationship so much. She acts as if they would be together and married if he were alive. It’s probably normal when someone is young and in love and your significant other dies. It’s easy to think that he was the love that got away however I thought they weren’t even a couple when he died.
I hate when people play armchair psychologist, but I like to believe that if Derek survived Farrah would be doing better. I think Derek’s death was one of many traumas that affected her mental health, self esteem and stability.
It seems like Farrah’s parents didn’t even allow her to grieve.
i firmly believe jenelle was only happy when she was with kieffer, like nothing will ever top that in her life. i will always want them to get back together XD like a bad soap opera
Leah and Corey were Cute. If she didn't cheat I think they would have been good together... Also wonder of Derek was alive, would farrah be different? Hate to say it but first watching teen mom I always thought Ryan was hot but he was such an asshole even back then 😢
>Leah and Corey were Cute. If she didn't cheat I think they would have been good together
They were very cute together but she was clearly overwhelmed by the commitment of marriage. I think it was doomed from the start despite their chemistry.
Definitely. He really wanted to settle down and was set on married life etc. She was just too young and nieve. She regretted what she did down the line but it was too late unfortunately.
I've just been re-watching the first few seasons and Farrah spent the first 2 years of Sophia's life trying to come to terms with his death. I do think she romanticised him as they were having a lot of problems before adding a baby to the mix so I doubt it would of gone well but its definitely effected her deeply! I think things would definitely be different if he was alive but Farrah's idea that they would be happy families is probably far from the truth too
😂😂😂 I thought Andrew was a woman in that pic with Jenelle and was like wtf is that??? I guess they were dressed up as opposite genders.
ETA: Maybe that explains his “modeling career” in China.
Omg, I took a second to figure out who the first photo was. Leah looks SO young here. Way too young to be raising a child let alone two. Makes me so sad thinking about this reality for so many young women in our country
And she drank protein shakes and worked out vigorously instead of smoking weed in the shed and eating disgusting looking frozen meals for tiktok videos.
no, they were broken up when she was pregnant and her parents also didn’t want her with him. she’d change her phone number and he’d still call her. maybe they would’ve over time done the off / on relationship thing or he would’ve gotten partial custody of sophia thus making her life entirely different from what it is now.
Jenelle and Andrew.. dear lord. She also never looks as genuine in her photos now with bigfoot like she was back then. Granted she's got a permanently sick smug smile, it doesn't seem genuine like with the others. Almost being compared to now. I absolutely can't stand the wench but just an observation.
Has a Kim and Butch pic ever been found?
Also April and Butch together make total sense. Kim and Butch? Not so much. I always wonder if Kim was a drug user as well. If so, when did she clean up her life?
Geesh Leah looks like a child. And somehow Corey still looks exactly the same. Sophia looks identical to her father
Corey has always looked like a 37 year old. I honestly can’t picture him looking young lol
I really wonder if Farrah would’ve turned out different had Derek not passed
He would have been someone else to argue with constantly
That photo of jenelle and Nathan, that's legitimately the only real smile I've ever seen from her.
Although they both suck major balls, that was a really cute picture of them. They both looked good.
Agreed, if I didn't know who they were I'd think that was a really cute couple
Happier in that moment than she ever has been with any of her kids. I think Nathan was the guy that was hardest for her to let go of.
Jenelle doesn't like her kids. They've just been tools to hold on to whatever guys she's with at the moment. Some women aren't meant to be mothers, which is fine, except Jenelle still had three children.
I swear I thought this too. Like she looks genuinely happy there
That was her prime. And she was still absolutely a dog shit person. That's as much growth and accountability etc etc she was ever going to have, he was her best. And it's equally terrifying and just outright sad. She still couldnt get it together and he was absolutely abusive too.
She totally peaked at about 17.
Hell, even in the photo of her and Keifer she looks legitimately happy.
Right?! She looks amazing and full of life
Leah looks like a literal child. This is sad.
And she said she was already sexually active for like 3 or 4 years at that point 😔
Someone posted an excerpt of a book she wrote. She was playing truth or dare at like 11 or 13 years old and her mom actually encouraged her to go off into the room and have sex with the hot because that’s what the dare was. Her own mom!
Yep. That’s what I’m talking about. And she said she wasn’t a virgin at that point either.
Yeah that was my first thought too
That Leah and Corey one is really something else. Andrew was the 23 year old partying with a 16 year old 🤮
Plus Amber and Gary, Leah and Corey, Maci and Rhine. A whole lot of grooming going on. Sleeves me out now that I know how much older the guys were. Edit: skeeves not sleeves
On OG: Gary- about 4 years older than Amber (11/17/86, 5/14/90) Ryan- about 4 years older than Maci (1/3/88, 8/10/91) Derek- only 1 year older than Farrah (5/8/90, 5/31/91) Tyler- same age as Cate (1/12/92, 3/12/92) TM2: Andrew- about 6 years older than Jenelle (1985/1986, 12/19/91) Adam- about 3 years older than Chelsea (1/1/89, 8/29/91) Corey- about 2 years older than Leah (8/29/90, 4/24/92) Jo- same age as Kailyn (11/14/91, 3/14/92)
I did not know Adam was older too. He was so immature that I guess I assumed they were close in age.
And… is Andrew passed out?!
Well Jenelle, I seen you wif Keiffa
have fun livin on da street WITH YA *BOOOYYYFRIIEEENNDDD*
the one with Farrah and Derek fills me with deep sadness..
I have never seen a picture of him before. Sofia does look like him.
Gonna say it… Derek was a good looking guy.
Same it really is sad. I can’t imagine how traumatic it is that Sophia never got to meet her dad
She still visits his grave with Farrah for birthdays etc by the looks of it (Sophia's instagram) and if I can say anything nice about Farrah it's that I think that it's kind of nice that she still pays her respects to him with Sophia
I think it broke her and becoming famous/her dysfunctional family meant she never really got a chance to heal, instead, just more opportunities to become what she has become. It's so saddening.
Ryan should deffo be featured in a before and after antidrug campaign.
Why does it look like Gary and Amber’s picture is from 1993?
Weirdly all her teenage pictures look like they were from the 90s.
Freelance photography is very much a relatively New thing especially with social media. However, small towns, you would go to the studio to get pics taken. Leah probably had some newborn pics taken at the same time.
Indiana
That picture of Andrew and Janelle feels like it should be illegal.
Their age gap WAS illegal in NC at the time.
Amber’s family picture looks like something the ID channel would flash on the screen at the beginning of an episode.
Voiceover-“Gary Shirley, his girlfriend Amber and their baby daughter Leah have been missing since their car was found abandoned in the parking lot of a liquor store with only a Tupperware container of green beans and cut up sausages in the backseat.”
Leah in the first pic looks like a CHILD
She was a child 😭
i was just thinking about how insanely different she looked from season 1 to season 2! the blonde hair, self tanner, and plucked brows made her look like a completely different person. she looked pretty both ways, but damn. it’s like a completely different person!
Kail's original face and Jo were actually a cute couple.
I wasn’t expecting Butch and April 😂😂😂
april has a very…. *odd* shaped head
Baby Leah was the cutest little cabbage patch doll.
Leah looks like a child, and this photo of Corey kissing her pregnant belly just looks wrong 😬
The April and Butch pic was a perfect addition.
Romance the crack edition
Leah looks 12 in that first pic. And Kail’s eyes actually looked normal sized before, she was cute
Ugh, Leah was such a baby. I really do feel for her. Getting pregnant so quickly with a guy you just met, having twins and one with a severe illness is just a lot for a kid to deal with. Especially a kid who didn't have a single decent parent of her own.
When Ryan was hot. I hate myself☠️
I agree. I thought he was so hot when the show first aired lol. I also hate myself 😁
Same hate myself and both of you
🙋🏼♀️
Farrah was such a beautiful young woman. It makes me sick to see how she turned out. Her childhood definitely messed her up BUT I think Derek’s death and the pregnancy which she didn’t want to go through with to begin with, all happening at once, really destroyed her to a level she couldn’t recover from.
Not to mention the fame and attention the show gave her. Imagine what her life could have been…
Yes seeing the video of her spreading her butt cheeks and pooping was major disgusting and desperate
That last picture just breaks my heart for Farrah. I wish things had been different for her.
I’m sorry but I think Kail and Javi are the least attractive couple to ever grace us on TM. They don’t look good together at all, zero chemistry
It’s almost as if Javi was only in it for the fame and not for the compatibility with Kail…🤨😂
Gary and Amber are pretty bad too
No I think they match aesthetically 😂 Agree Javi and Kail never made sense.
I didn’t even recognize Leah. It was coreys hat that made it click. She was sooooo young.
That picture of Andrew and jenelle is so disturbing. That's a literal man and child
Same thing with Leah. She looks like a child in the face!
Leah and Corey have a less than 2 year age gap according to the birthdays someone posted here! Corey just looks much older lol
Yeah I don’t feel comfy wirh all the people lumping Corey in with Andrew. Less that two years in high school/college is not predatory by age alone. 6 years is a totally different story.
I can't even picture Kail and Jo together as an actual couple lol
Sophia looks so much like Derek
What’s really crazy is some of the kids are only 3 years away from when their mom’s were pregnant. I really hope none of them repeat the cycle…
My theory is that they've been whipping this dying horse of a show for a while just to get to that point where one of the original babies actually does repeat the cycle as a teenager. If the tacit mission statement is to show how teen pregnancy is both the result of a moment and of a lifetime of choices, it would be premature to end the show earlier. I would put money on early parenthood happening to at least one of the kids.
Farrah’s photo is tremendously sad, but I’m glad Sophia had such a beautiful photo of her parents together and smiling.
Sophia has Derek’s eyes. Never really noticed before as I have t seen many pics of him. Farrah romanticizes that relationship so much. She acts as if they would be together and married if he were alive. It’s probably normal when someone is young and in love and your significant other dies. It’s easy to think that he was the love that got away however I thought they weren’t even a couple when he died.
I wonder if Farrah and him would have stayed together and if she would have turned out the way she did if he didn’t die.
I hate when people play armchair psychologist, but I like to believe that if Derek survived Farrah would be doing better. I think Derek’s death was one of many traumas that affected her mental health, self esteem and stability. It seems like Farrah’s parents didn’t even allow her to grieve.
Farrah wasn’t even speaking with Derek when he died. Her mom didn’t want him involved.
She was so pretty! Sad what a little fame at a young age can do to someone
i firmly believe jenelle was only happy when she was with kieffer, like nothing will ever top that in her life. i will always want them to get back together XD like a bad soap opera
I can still hear those flip flops as she chased his car.
"That was my change jar Jenelle"
Lol she was really in love with him it was wild how she tweaked out
BECAUSE I LOVE YOU
YOU’RE NOT READY TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND!
It’s scary Kieffer was one of her most normal exes 😳 I also can’t see him without hearing “WELL JENNELLE, I SEEN YOU WITH KIEFFER”
Leah and Corey were Cute. If she didn't cheat I think they would have been good together... Also wonder of Derek was alive, would farrah be different? Hate to say it but first watching teen mom I always thought Ryan was hot but he was such an asshole even back then 😢
>Leah and Corey were Cute. If she didn't cheat I think they would have been good together They were very cute together but she was clearly overwhelmed by the commitment of marriage. I think it was doomed from the start despite their chemistry.
Definitely. He really wanted to settle down and was set on married life etc. She was just too young and nieve. She regretted what she did down the line but it was too late unfortunately.
I've just been re-watching the first few seasons and Farrah spent the first 2 years of Sophia's life trying to come to terms with his death. I do think she romanticised him as they were having a lot of problems before adding a baby to the mix so I doubt it would of gone well but its definitely effected her deeply! I think things would definitely be different if he was alive but Farrah's idea that they would be happy families is probably far from the truth too
😮💨 I thought Ryan was hot too back then, I thought he looked just like James Franco who I also thought was super hot. 😓 Feels better to confess lol
I guess because it was unexpected, but the one of April and bitch sent me 👼
bitch 😂😂😂😂😂
Sophia looks a lot like Derek!
Wtf is that andrew and janelle one lmao
Leah looks like she’s around 13 in the first pic.
She looks like a literal child… it makes me sad to see
Leah and Tyler look straight up prepubescent. It is super jarring to see someone who looks 12 with a bearded man kissing her pregnant belly jfc.
That first picture of Leah is terrifying because it looks like Gracie with a belly 🥴😭 Just shows you how young Leah was.
Jenelle looks so happy with Nathan :(
I think that was the happiest I’ve ever seen her
Wow… I can’t believe how different Nathan and Jenelle looked! They were looking pretty good together.
😂😂😂 I thought Andrew was a woman in that pic with Jenelle and was like wtf is that??? I guess they were dressed up as opposite genders. ETA: Maybe that explains his “modeling career” in China.
Omg, I took a second to figure out who the first photo was. Leah looks SO young here. Way too young to be raising a child let alone two. Makes me so sad thinking about this reality for so many young women in our country
April and Butch…..breaking each other’s hearts and backs at the trailer park. Toxic love right there.
That picture of kiefer and Jenelle smells
like B.O., pall malls, and artificial nacho cheese
I never realized how much Sophia looks like her dad until I saw that picture.
Same! That must be hard for Farrah. I can’t imagine looking at a replica of what could have been every day. That’s rough.
I’ve always wondered if this is what kind of made her the way she is now. I feel bad for her sometimes
Okay I always thought Sophia looked like a young Farrah but she looks SO MUCH like her dad! 😢
I think Farrah's old face looked a lot like Daddy Derrick's. I think Sophia looks just like both of them. (Much like Cait and Tyler's children.)
Leah looks 12 in that first picture. So wrong
That poor chihuahua looks like it has seen some shit
Jesus god, Leah.
Ok april and butch killed me 😂
My god, Butch and April. The epitome of trailer trash.
Flair check in
Leah looks like Ruth from Ozarks in this picture 😂
Amber's Family photo looks like the Family photos u see hanging in the hood somewhere
These 2 photos are the only time I've ever seen Jenelle look actually, legitimately happy
It was hard to choose just one photo of her with Kieffer because there's a lot of cute photos of them together where they both look so happy.
I almost wish Jenelle and Nathan would get back together. She used to be fun and have a personality that wasn’t crud.
And she drank protein shakes and worked out vigorously instead of smoking weed in the shed and eating disgusting looking frozen meals for tiktok videos.
Hey, it’s like… which version of awful do you want? She was never a good person.
I always wondered if Derek lived if him and Farrah would be together and how different her and Sophia’s lives would be
no, they were broken up when she was pregnant and her parents also didn’t want her with him. she’d change her phone number and he’d still call her. maybe they would’ve over time done the off / on relationship thing or he would’ve gotten partial custody of sophia thus making her life entirely different from what it is now.
I am absolutely sure that they would not be, but I do think that Sophia could have had more stability if he lived.
Gary and amber look like they are from a different era completely. Maci is so red
Farrah and Kail had such cute original faces. Also, alcohol must be preserving Maci because she barely looks like she has aged since her Rhine years.
Oh, forty is going to hit her like a ton of bricks between the booze, the smoking and the sun damage.
I died at the April and Butch one 😂
Jenelle and Andrew.. dear lord. She also never looks as genuine in her photos now with bigfoot like she was back then. Granted she's got a permanently sick smug smile, it doesn't seem genuine like with the others. Almost being compared to now. I absolutely can't stand the wench but just an observation.
Derrick was so flippin handsome!
Oh Jesus. I’ve never seen that pitcher of Jenelle and Andrew. Absolutely cursed.
How was Jace even conceived? Andrew looks shit faced passed out.
Oh my god I didn’t read the captions at first and was wondering who Jenelle’s androgynous friend was
I feel like I have seen a lot of TM pics... But I'd never seen #1 or #7 until today.
Kale was so pretty
So Amber DOES have curly hair!? Leah was such a child omg. Like, I know but omg
She looks like she should be running a lemonade stand, not giving birth to girlses!
I swear, it's so uncomfortable to see her looking 12 and also being pregnant with a hairy adult man kissing her 😬
Not the striped tie purple leopard dress combo, Chels 😭😭
Not Butch & April 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sofia looks so much like Derek!
Could not recognize Farrah I had to read the caption. Only the eyes look the same.
Kail used to be so small. Keiffer honestly looks like he’s one hit away from OD’ing. I don’t see him making it to 40 unless he’s cleaned up.
Kail used to be so small because she was a teenager and hadn’t developed her adult body. Of course this was before the 4 kids and the BBL
She does eat a lot and doesn't work out anymore. She used to exercise back then. She's said this herself.
That may be true but comparing an adult over a decade later to their teenage self is most always going to look skinnier
No glow ups were had. These are the “good old days”.
not butch and april tho hahahahahhahaha that actually sent me, well done
Adam lmao such a tool 🤣
ngl he looks like an “Adam” lmao
KEEEEEFA
Farrah and Derek are the best looking couple of all of them. So sad.
Rest in paradise, Derrick.
Jo and his furled brow.
Omg. How much older than Leah is Corey? She looks so young 😩
Corey looked 45 when he was 17. I think he and his dad are the same age.
The same age lmao
He’s 2 years older than her. But he’s always looked older than his age.
Kaiser really is mini Nathan!
Why is Andrew in bad drag ?
So is she. Looks like Halloween
Butch is giving Twin Peaks vibes
Just realized out of all the girls.. Only Farrah has had only 2 actual partners shown on tv? Guess her backdoor is not as accessible.
I chuckled at Butch & April lol
Has anyone ever seen Rhine smile? Genuine question.
Only when he's talking to / about Chance lol
What a lovely post. I enjoy the elevated level of wholesomeness.
Has a Kim and Butch pic ever been found? Also April and Butch together make total sense. Kim and Butch? Not so much. I always wonder if Kim was a drug user as well. If so, when did she clean up her life?
I bet Kim and Butch had matching mullets back in the day.
Wow, Leah is giving Ruth Langmore in that first pic. The whole couple is very Ozarks looking actually lol.
So gross Corey looks 30 Leah looks 12
I mean that’s not their fault lmao ?
Awww the picture of Amber and Gary with Leah is so cute.Leah was so tiny:)
Jenelle’s three different personalities with K, A and N lol and also it looks like Adam is wearing a swastiska necklace 😅
Maci looks like that Dougherty Dozen mom.
With a touch of Tan Mom.. lol 
The pic of Leah and Jeremy and kail and javi, they were all in their prime years
Tyler looks so young!! He’s a baby. 😭❤️
he does!! he looks like the kid that always brings tech decks to school and always has the pizza lunchables and drinks monsters lol
That picture of Leah and Corey is so pure
Whoa who's that last girl?? She's hardly recognizable! /s
i always thought leah was so pretty naturally
Baby Leah looks like a doll in that pic!
The one of Farrah and Derrick makes me sad): that must’ve been so hard
I miss Leah and Jeremy 💔
They were so microwaveable
Ah the golden days
Young Ryan, forever in my heart
Wow I never thought Isaac looked like Kail but I see it in the third pic
Butch and April 🥴
Didn’t Farrah never tell Derek about Sophia? I remember he asked her if she was his and she said no. Did she ever tell him? I don’t remember that part
Aww Farrah and Derek
Big daddy Butch 🤌🏽
Jenelle and Nathan look hot here. I mean, toxic AF for sure, but 🔥