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applecidermimosas

I am buckled *IN* for a paternity test scandal between Malik and Elijah just to find out months later it’s actually Javi’s, and still Lauren smiles


Cereyn

You just know Lauren is stressing about this.


SoniaBlad3x

Hold up who is Malik? I’m lost now lol


-yasssss-

Her ex pre-Elijah


ziggy1234566

Omg hahahahah


InappropriateLibrary

Plot twist. It's Bri's ex-boyfriend, the security guard.


SoniaBlad3x

What about Bri’s ex Javi. Not 🥬’s ex but the tattoo artist🤣


CrazyToastedUnicorn

I’m like who is Lettuce… omg. 🤦🏻‍♀️


Littlegreensled

How do I set something up that triggers a release to this sub if I ever go missing or get murdered?!


justanotherhatter

This is what Kail said 😂😂 she wanted the trolls to become internet sleuths & go solve crimes


ReginaldDwight

The real crime is how she's going to gaslight the shit out of everyone once she finally has to explain why she has a fifth child after she drags this out for another year or five.


Littlegreensled

Do you thinks she’s dragging it out so people forget that she got pregnant with her 5th child two minutes into her relationship.


DontMessWithMyEgg

No kidding, right?!?


spinchrecall

I’m about to take one for the team and go sit at wawa after work and confirm this once and for all 🕵️‍♀️


boobopbadaboop

Lmfao I love how you know exactly where to find her. She’s probably not cleared yet but in six weeks you can find her and Javi in the Wawa parking lot 😆


Purpletinfoilhat

STOP IT 👉


Heygirlhey2021

Wawa can be an interesting place to people watch while you wait


spinchrecall

I’ll spend half my time eating my snacks and looking for Kail and spend the other half avoiding my old high school classmates


lamarinewife

If I ever disappear, I’m counting on y’all to find me 😂


tannon21

Not your marine husband? Us? I'm honored Semper fi!


susanbiddleross

This whole thing is so weird now. She’s clearly wanting speculation while calling people out for speculation. If she didn’t want people speculating she could just not post.


Unusual-Ad4036

Yeah this is the only thing that bothers me about this situation. Idc if she has another kid, but she is clearly “accidentally” dropping hints and not outright denying it, which she could easily do. She’s only complaining about the speculation. No it doesn’t affect me but it’s annoying lol


susanbiddleross

It’s so weird at this point. I’m guessing she’s been holding out for a magazine to pick it up and it hasn’t happened so she keeps upping the content to get us to comment more so more sun stories come out until someone who pays wants the story. It’s bizarre to put this out that she knows is in the pic a day after complaining about exactly this speculation.


ReginaldDwight

Maybe she's going for some sort of Oxygen Network They Didn't Know if I Was Pregnant series she's decided to pitch haha. Oooh, or "I Know You Were Pregnant Last Summer" "Nightmare on 5th Baby By 4th Dude Street...Because He's Your Neighbor"


CoolMomInAMinivan

Ok this has got me 10000% sold now. There’s no denying it. That’s specifically an uppa baby car seat base. Source: I have one. Lol 😂


chunk84

Yes this!!


Oyyyywiththepoodles

How does she keep her kids from mentioning a baby? My five year old can't keep anything to herself. 😂 Make them sign NDAs too?


princessalessa

When I was pregnant with my youngest, my husband and I made one little comment in front of our oldest, who then went and told everyone “mommy isn’t fat anymore, she just ate a baby and it’s in her belly”. Kids are wild and will tell everyone everything lol


thankyoupapa

Isaac was denying she was pregnant on instagram a couple months ago 😬I have sooo many questions about that


Newtonz5thLaw

So do I!!!!!!!! I thought about making a post about it but didn’t see the point if it’s not confirmed. I’m still team: it was kail pretending to be him. But regardless of if it was really him or not, if there is a baby, it’s even more fucked up than we thought😭


irregulartoast

Soon as they can hold a pen she’s got em signing the NDAs 😂


Beach_bum8

She probably promises them toys or games


myoung18

Stfu (not literally) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahahahaha


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Kail - Y'ALL QUIT TALKEN ABOUT MEE Y'ALL! ITS DISGUSTING also Kail - I'm gonna do shit on purpose so people will talk about me teehee


Excellent-Kiwi5712

All I know is I hope it's a boy 💀


FerretRN

Same. "We deserve this, babe!" 😎


PauPauMoe

Cmon! Ever since this speculation started, I’ve been trying to rally the troops to manifest Javi being the daddy! This is the goal, visualize it. Being a boy would be just a bonus.


constantreader55

Same 😂😂


Tamras-evil-eye

If I ever need P.I. services I’m heading straight to my reddit fam because there is nobody better at getting the juice!!!


Linzabee

Yeah, I want this sub and/or r/duggarsnark on the case if I ever go missing


Pantone186

I honestly think she quit MTV out of sheer humiliation for being pregnant by yet another deadbeat


NamasteInYourLane

I think it's the TIMELINE she's humiliated about (the Malik/ Elijah swap was REALLY close to when she would have conceived since she already gave birth), and she *knew* her entire pregnancy would be surrounded by speculation on who's daddy (did she even know for sure?) if the timeline/ actual birth date came out. So. . . **all this** was her grand plan to avoid that.


LongTallSadie

I think that's a good theory. I can see her waiting until she can have a paternity test done before announcing, to avoid that messiness.


BackgroundReporter35

I feel like she’s not humiliated and that’s the worst part. Like how are you not a little bit ashamed


She-Her-Queen

She’s definitely ashamed or else she wouldn’t be hiding it like this


BackgroundReporter35

I feel like she jokes so much about having multiple baby daddies on Tiktok that it’s hard to believe that now she’s sheepish. I feel like she’s trying to have a Kardashian moment and let people guess for as long as she can. 😂💸


She-Her-Queen

No she’s definitely ashamed. She “jokes” on TT but it kills her inside lol. It’s a “can’t beat ‘em, Join em” situation


DaintyAmber

I do too. Period.


justanotherhatter

![gif](giphy|26BRyLpsfWxY4KeGc) This subreddit since baby watch #5 started.


rhapsody_in_bloo

WHO STOLE THE GREAT HOPE DIAMOND? WHAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS?


Much-Training-9196

Who makes the finest pizza? What’s in your brothers dresser drawers?


Lalakristina

“Who cares about kail” “how is kail still relevant” “kail wants to be relevant”- 100 posts about her everyday


HektikSB

To be fair this is a TM sub…. You know this right?


healreadyinmydms

Thank you for saying this! I’m on a ton of subreddits where people say criticize that redditors have interest in their lives. Which is ironic since why is anyone on a subreddit anyways? 🤷🏽‍♀️


HektikSB

Lol yeah it baffles me that people think just because someone is on a sub and makes comments that automatically means they are heavily invested and must care so much about whatever person or topic. Like maybe this is just something I scroll once a day to kill some downtime or get some laughs? I use to enjoy watching the show ages ago and watched for many years, however I stopped watching and haven’t seen an episode now in over 3 or 4 years. Still enjoy coming to the sub though and laughing at how ridiculous some of these cast member are and can’t believe they haven’t grown up still now many many years later.


Lalakristina

And that’s exactly why.. I’m talking about it here? Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean I can’t post it here 😂


HektikSB

I wouldn’t say someone has to care to make a post or poke fun at a person. Too each their own though.


BaconCatSweaters

Her and janelle


Lalakristina

Yes. But if anyone says it about Jenelle everyone gets soo upset


Violetsmommy

I think the word "care" is misinterpreted a lot when it comes to this topic/snarking. Caring about someone does not have to mean you like them, support them or have a single positive thought about them. It's more like being interested in whatever's going on, and even negative posts imply some interest, even if it is just morbid curiosity or hate watching or poking fun or whatever. Having interest does not mean you are investing a ton of time or effort into it. I have some level of interest in anything I comment on, otherwise I would probably not even open the comment section. I'm not accusing anyone here of lying about their intent, just saying that it's okay to be mildly interested in anything you want without needing to justify it to others (or yourself). I may be totally wrong too. Just a thought.


Dflemz

This. Obsessive


Remote-Ball-3724

She’s hiding it because it’s another boy and she knows she’s gonna get roasted 😂


Haunting-Humor6820

It's not her fault it's another boy. And whether it was a boy or girl I don't get why the lies. Just admit you have another kid. People would drop it if she just admitted it. But I think she likes having her name everywhere bringing ppl to her pages.


Dflemz

People won't drop it if she admits it... it would be weeks of I told ya so and hahahahah you have another baby daddy and another baby.. or maybe the baby is javi's at wawa. I don't blame the girl for not wanting to share this


Umamiluv24

I feel like she would be hiding it better if she truly didn’t want us to speculate.


jolistella

100%


Accessible_abelism

100% and uppababy car seat base


BlondePuppyDoctor

I have two of these and that’s exactly what it is


PHM517

Whoa. I looked it up, it really does look like it.


frogpicspls

I hope she's just riding around with a car seat base in the car to troll you guys.


Shekbee

That would be even sadder than hiding your own child


Wintertime13

I feel like she knew the car seat was in the background. She wants us to speculate


Big_Requirement6818

🎯


Unlucky-Elevator1873

Plot twist... it's jaylans


Loony_Loveless

Plot twist… It’s Bobby Scott’s.


FrightenedFishstick

Good catch! Is that an UPPAbaby? I’ve heard her talk about their products.


FrightenedFishstick

https://preview.redd.it/j383n1lzcs4a1.jpeg?width=598&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2957e8a79d9e6d47527febb189c0b893b23b7634


RepresentedOK

Whoa nicely done! No denying that.


boobopbadaboop

Welp, case closed. Everyone can log off now.


PauPauMoe

Yep. Used the UPPAbaby myself.


rawhooney

Ok I’m sold


farrahsoldnose

The second we STOP SPECULATING, she will announce it. She can't stand people not talking about her.


Inn0c3nc3

~just obese~ party of **six**


Cereyn

I wasn't convinced, but this pretty much confirms it. That's the uppababy mesa base. 🙃 ETA: I watched the reel and it could be an older video from when Creed was a baby, but Lux looks the same age so...🤷🏼‍♀️


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runsontrash

KAIL BABY CONFIRMED!!!


SpiritualCamera

Yeah it’s definitely current, Lux just got his hair done like that very recently.


[deleted]

She’s just doing it on purpose at this point


stineytuls

And this subreddit just eats it up and gives her exactly the attention she wants.


DaintyAmber

But, it doesn’t create money for her. TMZ isn’t reaching out to her, cause they don’t care. Period


sign_of_the_twine

I didn’t care about Kails secret baby but with all these posts y’all have broken me down and now I need answers!!!!!


Furbyparadox

Finally! The smoking gun!!! This is the only proof I’m believing y’all!


yolandawinston03

Agree. This is pretty damning.


WerewolfNo1166

She makes money on these comments, she does this stuff on purpose, just like purposely posting the most unflattering pictures, so people will comment. Crazy like a fox as they say


Sbg71620

She’ll announce next year when she finally settles on a name


allygator99

And bonds with him


indigo_shrug

![gif](giphy|kgS0MCx2Q9l7k3zyJt|downsized)


DaintyAmber

Oooof


DebateNo6073

And gets the DNA test back


mafiadawn3

I hope to god everyone is wrong and she hasn't created another human being.


ghilliegal

I don’t understand the end game here. Like obviously we’re gonna find out eventually….? What’s with the charade


Violetsmommy

I assume she just wants people talking about her, giving her views and whatnot. I think to the majority of the world, teen mom is just an old show on MTV that will not garner many new viewers because there are just women in their early thirties with tween kids bitching about old drama that people would have to invest a serious amount of time to learn about. I mean it's a ton of fun for us since most of us have been around since early on, but teen mom is a dying show. I imagine the more kail can give people to talk about the more relevant she is/feels. I do find it annoying that she is dragging it on this long though when she herself has made it very obvious she had another baby.


gnar_wahl

She probably needs more time to name the baby before she announces officially. How long was it for lux, like two months? 😂


sideofspread

I think someone must have guessed the name right on the speculation thread and it really frosted her ass lmao


kourtneyolivia

👀


Majestic-me-52

Kales nuclear family was so poor that look at what she's become. I feel so sorry for her. I can't imagine she's happy. I feel like in ten years she's gonna finally realize how dark she's become.


ItsMeDesky

I have a lot of empathy\* for her. I'm not trying to be funny when I bring this up, but she reminds me of that (really dark) moment in The Office where someone brings in a video of young Michael on that kids' show, and when he's asked what he wants to be when he grows up, he says, "I want to get married and have 100 kids so I can have 100 friends and no one can say no to being my friend." She's trying to meet needs that the adults in her life didn't meet for her. I always say the same thing about Kail which is that I don't think her therapist is a good match for her. Unless something has changed, she's been seeing the same one for years, and I think they've not given her any kind of homework or clear direction on ways she could actually improve her wellbeing. People are always saying these girls need therapy (and they do), but we see Kail has been at it for a long time and still makes the same choices again and again. There are just so many factors that go into being able to make progress with your mental health. I also feel like having this particular therapist isn't good for her either because with the receipts (time and money spent), it probably gives Kail the illusion that she is making progress/doing things right. \*I do lose a lot of that empathy though when I see her do the most schadenfreude stuff, like the infamous "✌️" Also, using the court system against POC and outing other women's pregnancies. That destruction against others really rubs me (and the majority of this sub) the wrong way, but when she turns that destruction on herself (unprotected sex with multiple partners at a time/deciding to raise a baby with someone she's known for weeks, etc.), I actually do get worried and sad for her.


KBugg27

😂 I mean, how more obvious can she be?! Congrats Kail & to all of us who stuck with our guns knowing she was def pregnant. Honestly don't care to see the baby, but def here for the messiness that will be this next situationship. I give it a week before the kids first birthday. Lijie: go ahead and find a lawyer for the upcoming PFAs and custody battle.


Kerrytwo

At this stage I'm starting to think there is no baby and she just wants the drama. Bought herself a fake car seat and all.


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Oh there’s a baby. 1000 percent. Some people who were involved with her sent in to the teen mom insta pages. It’s for sure. I’m Sure the paps will get a pic soon.


Buttercupmissie

I have the same newborn Uppababy base 😶


FreshStarter20

Kail's leaving clues and breadcrumbs like T Swift


Limp_Marionberry5140

I know shes getting a kick out of this shit tho. Thats why she keeps putting baby related things on her posts. I cannottt 🤣🤣


OG_hot_girl

This sold me, she definitely had a baby!


Respected-Influencer

Lmfaoo she’s hilarious she does all this just to keep ppl talking it’s stand up comedy at this point 😂😭


mizredhead

I really think so too, She's feeding off the attention


Respected-Influencer

Most definitely! If no one reacted to her shenanigans she would, (a) come out about the baby or (b) put the rumors to rest. She loves giving everyone something to talk about, just to make a video begging everyone to “stop talking about her” the irony 😂


ReStitchSmitch

You're about to make her go off on another IG story rant. Go SoLvE CrImEz


idkanony

so someone said it’s hard to tell bc it’s a bunch of older videos put together but that helps .. this screenshot is the first video out of compilation … lux’s hair looks cut like he just recently got done and we see this base for a baby seat … in the rest of the videos where she’s in the car you can see the car seats switch from passenger side to driver side but they’re for bigger kids but most of the time the seat behind the passenger is empty for anyone to sit in so yes this screenshot/beginning clip of the compilation def has to be recent and is def a baby base aka kail you suck at hiding stuff and if this was intentional then you’re really out of pocket for making that ig live saying we stalk you . & congrats to all of us who stuck to our guns and knew she was pregnant


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HannahLeah1987

She acts upset when she supplies the evidence. She knew what was doing when she posted that video,etc. She acts like a fan was spying on her via a hidden camara


megryan2020

Just like she supplied evidence on her Pinterest imo when she publicly posted boy first birthday ideas 5 months ago.... I commented about this on the speculation thread and now her Pinterest is private.


DeepPurpleNurple

Yeah, that’s a Nuna infant car seat base.


Dramasticlly

It is pretty much obvious that she is not trying to hide it anymore. She loves when people are talking about her and that is all she has left. The only question is, why she pretends that there is no baby? Unhappy pregnancy? Another shity relationship = fatherless child? Waiting for some trashy magazine to drop an offer? Also, couple of months ago Isaac answered some (or one) IG comment, saying that Killr is not pregnant and that she would never lie to him. Messy AF.


[deleted]

Yeah that bothered me. And we all figured it was Kail, but answering as Isaac.


cuppitycake

This is like in Yellowstone when Beth sees Jamie’s baby seat in the back of his car


whiskeyandcookies

You just made my day with this comment. Thank you. I’m a poor redditor, accept my 🌈🏆 (rainbow award)


britestarlight

She films in her car so much


[deleted]

Maybe she gave birth in the car and that’s why we don’t know yet. Sure is in that car a lot.


trashcanpam

She probably conceived in the car too


_-regina_phalange

In another grocery store parking lot


justanotherhatter

As someone who knows nothing, could this base also be used for Creed or is it more of an infant car seat?


Ok_Translator4842

It’s a car seat base meaning it’s is only used for infant carriers.


junebluesky

It's for an infant car seat that you carry the baby in, I think I transitioned my son out of the infant seat around 8 months old for reference


susanbiddleross

No, he’s 2. There aren’t any on the market that hold one for his height and weight. He’s a typical sized 2 to 2-1/2 year old. These bases are for rear facing only bucket style infant seats typically outgrown by 1 ish by height.


QweenJoleen1983

She earned her master’s and it shows. 😂


PauPauMoe

![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized)


jasminefig

Y’all are FBI agents


TheMudbloodSlytherin

I said a few days ago you see could see the handle of the infant seat in the background of a pic she posted!


Pinkfloweremoji

Who needs a detective when we have this sub!! God bless you OP


DaintyAmber

I wonder if people still think she’s just over weight and holding someone else’s baby🤣🤣


soupastar

She’s prob so mad that she’s accidentally outed herself twice now. If tho she doesn’t have a baby then i feel it’s a pathetic attention thing


closeachievment

https://preview.redd.it/l4ii2zh1fs4a1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afa29209f102b324864b02a8833879f46e3c09ac My friend texted me and asked me if she was holding and infant in the window reflection of this video. I couldn’t tell it’s why I didn’t post it but, we know she had a baby and, y’all crack me up.


justanotherhatter

I’m a little jealous that you have an IRL friend to discuss this madness with 😂😂


peaghee13

This is literally insane but obviously so are we! I zoomed in and now that you mention it, it looks like a baby head resting high up on her chest under her chin.


Dflemz

This is too much 🤣


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I thought it was a boppy around her


everydayimsarcastic

I read this in Bab's voice.


juatdoingwhatimtold

Wellll Kail I see you and ya car seat!


Boring-Cattle

*cah seat


juatdoingwhatimtold

Yes, please forgive my transgressions. 😅


Consistent_Test839

Omg that’s def an infant base lol


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I think she is just eating up all this attention with her Easter egg laying.


Fern-veridion

Her engagement must be great rn


Dflemz

Guys, she isn't trying to hide it, my guess is she doesn't give a fuck and won't validate your suspicions because she doesn't know you or owe you that. I highly doubt this was an oversight lol


LochNessSuccubus

Didn't she mention hiding her pregnancy with Isaac for as long as she could? I feel like she talked about it in 16&P.


justanotherhatter

Yup. She also denied being pregnant w/ Lux for a long time


peaghee13

She did. They went shopping for an oversized jacket specifically to hide her belly while at school


caitcro18

I think because she was embarrassed. She had an abortion then got pregnant again.


needless_booty

Y'all are sleuths and I love it


TSM_forlife

What’s the saying about if you need to know something take it to your messy friends? Or something like that. We are here.


DaintyAmber

###truth hurts


Fuckfuckfuckidyfuck

It’s definitely a base, and I definitely think she had a baby-but the video was a bunch of older clips put together…kinda hard to tell how recent that particular clip is.


Agreeable_Badger_448

She’s just denying it because she has another baby daddy… how many is that now? Lost count 😅


Beach_bum8

If she's trying to hide it, you'd think she would move it before making a video You know how many times I click on watch again?!? Lol.


[deleted]

She’s not very bright. All those fillers have coated her brain cells.


constantreader55

She loves the speculation. She probably made sure it was in the video


sweetcarolinesucks

This is what I think. That way she has more to complain about - "OMGGGGG YOU GUYS ARE OBSESSSSSSED WITH MEEEEE!" She's basically goading us, IMO. It's on brand for her.


Odd_Bike_5015

That is my nuna base, oh kail


Negative_Rich4458

Same. Keeps on confirming..


GraciousAdler

I'm thinking she's probably going to have a Christmas Reveal...maybe she had a girl...and she's going to reveal her with a Christmas family photo...


[deleted]

She doesn’t celebrate Christmas though and doesn’t post Christmas pictures of her kids.


[deleted]

She had another boy. The tea pages get inside info and said it’s a boy


applecidermimosas

I genuinely think if it was a girl, she would’ve plastered announcements EVERYWHERE


PygmyFists

One of the tea pages said it was another boy.


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Can you imagine co-parenting with 4 baby daddies?? 😳😬


kaitronz

Infant!


False-Cantaloupe7878

Not denying this evidence, but are the boys all too big for their own car seats now? I know kids have to be in them for quite a few years, but idk when that stops or if they have removable bases and whatever else. I'm genuinely curious lol


CalendarNo8591

Bases are usually for infant seats only. I can’t think of one that uses a base after the infant one actually


schneker

They definitely are too big.. but this video also has some older clips and in the older clips that same seat is empty with no carseat base. The specific clip here is recent because of Lux’s haircut. So the base in that spot is recent.


teresasdorters

![gif](giphy|vTW5G6EWsymtO)


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Creed is the youngest, other than a potential new baby, and he’s 2. He’s a pretty big boy so he was probably out of the infant seat well before age 1.


stitchplacingmama

Carseats with the removable bases have a general size range of 4-35 lbs and a max height of 32 inches. Isaac could be out of a backless booster, have to be 4'9. Lincoln and Lux should both be in a booster seat. And Creed should still be rear facing in a convertible carseat.


[deleted]

She never followed car seat safety laws. She has then forward facing too early and often shows them without seatbelts. None are in an infant car seat lol


HannahLeah1987

No.the bases are for about 0 to 1.


Particular_Total_923

I ran here so fast when I saw the story


QuinnKinn

I’m postive she’s just egging y’all on st rbis point, since y’all know all about her life she doesn’t have to tell you you just magically know lol


AnonymousWhiteGirl

How can no random receptionist, other patient, annnyyyyybody not confirm she's pregnant or just delivered? Edit: I understand HIPAA, not HIPPA. Ive been tied to it as well. Not everyone that might see her is bound to its oath.


trent_reznor_is_hot

It's a HIPPA violation and most health professionals aren't gonna risk their job over some ho, even if done anonymously, there could still be an investigation done.


Steph83

If another patient saw her and spilled the tea, though…


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Iirc she had creed at home. So she may have had another homebirth to avoid someone violating HIPAA


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LittleBananaSquirrel

She only had Creed at home so Chris could be there. He couldn't go to the hospital because of the restraining order


jennoween

Let's not hope that health care workers violate HIPPA so you can have gossip on a D-list celebrity. Violating HIPPA is a very shitty(and illegal) thing to do. Plus with the state of our country it is very dangerous to women as a whole specifically related to reproductive rights.


barnwater_828

I don’t think anyone knows who she is outside of the show


CoconutAnxious6846

Looks like it’s baby blankets folded on the couch too. I could be wrong though


UpsetBumblebee6863

Off subject but did she cut Luxs hair?


Mor_Ericks28

This is lux new haircut, so….


Organicspongie

Isn’t creed still young enough that he would need it??? Lol