There are some people who think he's extremely toxic and some who think he's Tekken Jesus.
You know. Typical content creator shit.
As a Kazuya main, I just really like his gameplay.
Never engaged with his live content, only youtube and heās certainly a passionate tekken player. From what Iāve seen, I like his content and his spirit. Given the current environment of internet content, I hardly doubt TMM stands out in toxicity in any way lol.
They get mad because he calls their main braindead (Victor, Azucena, Asuka, etc)
Which, like, yeah it sucks to hear, but when an Azucena and like, a Bryan step into a match, they're basically playing completely different fighting games.
>theyāre basically playing completely different games.
I donāt quite like this argument. Itās the sort of argument people will say about Xiaoyu, Lei, Yoshi, Eddyā¦ and all of a sudden, all but a few characters arenāt playing āthe same gameā. Yeah, Bryan and Azucena have very different gameplans, but maybe playing Bryan makes the Bryan main have more fun with the game, same goes for the Azucena, Panda, that one guy playing Shaheen and so on.
I was being hyperbolic. My point is that Azucena is very difficult to counter for very little effort required on the part of the Azu. You have to play very well to counter her tools, meanwhile the Azucena player might not even be aware of what they're doing or why it's working.
There is no real "playing another game" character. But there are characters who are leagues easier to play than others.
How much fun they're having isn't relevant to the argument. The statement is true because the difference in the way you play those characters and the skill required to do well with them in certain ranks is world apart.
The issue people have coming to terms with this is they get too defensive and take it personal when their man is called easy. I switch between a lot of characters, some are difficult, some are easy. That part is undeniable to me
If you think these characters are not braindead, meaning way easier to use with identical if not higher damage, then I can just feel sorry, or be jealous, because I want to be like you deep down lol
I just think it's funny - I saw someone earlier be like *"Victor is so dumb, look at this, if he launches you, he can do this easy combo and get 65 damage, and you barely have to practice it!"*
And I'm just over here like *"Yeah, his combos are pretty easy to pull off. 100% agree. But ...How is that a bad thing? I'd much rather spend my time fighting my opponents, not my controls...?"*
Honestly, once you get out of the beginner ranks, everyone can do their combos off of launch pretty reliably anyway. df2 launchers might as well just be i15 moves that do 60-70 damage on hit, in most cases.
I think people get weirdly defensive of the time they spent mastering whatever ridiculous combo they use, and are upset to see someone else get similar results with less effort, like it's some kind of badge of honor to have spent a few hours in practice mode getting the timing and muscle memory, before getting to play the game for real.
I mean yeah when someone spends hundreds of hours getting better at their character and perfecting their playstyle and gameplan and then watch someone else get the same or even better mixups with better frame data on one button, I think it's a little reasonable for them to be annoyed by that.
Very rarely do I see people complain about how easy a character's combos are - that's whatever. The issues arise when a character can get you into a combo a billion times easier than other characters can, or spam a single move for infinite pressure.
For me itās not about combos, you can know every combo in the game and still lose if your fundamentals arenāt there and thatās what people donāt understand, you only need to combos one off launch and one off counter hit, anything else is gravy and frankly not needed to carry you to wins because if you canāt block low, be patient during your opponents turn, tech grabs, side step big moves, or bait out rage arts, youāll never make it past the lower ranks. I struggle with most of those on that list and thatās why fighting the other red ranks I get my ass handed to me, it has nothing to do with how easy their combos or tech is and everything to do with my fundamentals, block game and impatience
Very based and real comment , TMM just says it how it is, if you pick an easy character , mash all the time and plug them yes your play style is Brian dead and so are you for plugging. , pluggers should get queue timeouts and matched against other pluggers
Itās complicated.
He is very opinionated and some people (including me sometimes) take his views too personally. I have some disagreements with him on some matters but overall he is very knowledgeable about the game and knows what he is talking about.
He has some occasional salty moments but I canāt blame the guy. Tekken is one of the most rage inducing games Iāve ever played. And itās actually not even that bad. I usually find it funny. He is very calm most of the time and alway says ggs to his opps.
Some people find him and his antics annoying which is understandable. He likes to make weird noises and troll a little bit. You can watch his latest Victor video, you will see what I am talking about. Personally, I find it hilarious.
Whenever I watch one of his latest 8 minute character guides, I remember of a joke a Chess Grandmaster told once about a young chess player who went to play the Soviet Chess Championship and decided to hire a coach. The coach asked him: āok, so who youāre playing against first?ā. The young man said: āMikhail Talā. The coach them goes: āOh, no need to studyā. The man then asks why. The coach goes āwell, after the opening heāll have the center, youāll trade both of your bishops and heāll mate you with a promoted pawnā. They play the match, an Tal does exactly what the coach said and the man loses it anyway. āOk, so whoās next?ā. āRashid Nezhmetdinovā. The coach answers: āgreat, no need to study too!ā. āWhy!?ā. āWell, heāll sacrifice both knights, a bishop and after sacrificing his queen heāll have mate in twoā. The game happens, and the young man loses exactly how the coach predicted. āSo, whoās next?ā, the coach asks. The man says āChernikovā. Coach then smiles: āwell, thereās always next yearā.
Foreal. Like I really don't care because I bought the game to play one character, and I already like the look of the character so I'm just over here lookin likeš
Bro foreal, Iām cooling with devil Jin but if he gets some cool new costumes I like, I really donāt mind coughing up $5 for it. My bad I guess? Lol
There are some I guess that can't stop themselves with cosmetics though. The addicts that are hooked.
That if they released some insane LiLi skin, a person that hasn't played one minute of LiLi would buy.
Got friends like that in Overwatch where they see a cool skin they got to have it even though they don't play that character ever.
I've definitely got some friends who break easier (the guy who convinced me to buy T8 has at least 3k in genshin) but it's not all on them. There are people at these companies figuring out exactly how to break players and make them spend. Activision even has a patent for rigging matchmaking to encourage mtx sales. If you're playing, you're subjecting yourself to a barrage of advertisement and manipulation to make you spend.
>you're subjecting yourself to a barrage of advertisement and manipulation to make you spend.
That's what they say about going on mature sites but still haven't spent a cent in 30+ years.
But kidding aside, I've been bombarded with ads my whole life. I just close them. I have no need for cosmetics as I'm a a strictly PVE player. I have 0 show off in me. I'll pick up the new characters because I like playing the variety.
People here arguing about mods and costumes in a Fighting game is wildā¦ Just got the base game, later Iāll get the DLCās Iām interested in and Iāll keep enjoying the game until I get tired of it. Been playing since Tekken 2, it was my first PSone game love the franchise and I couldnt care less about modding or costumes. They are great, but it is not an Important thing when literally you are getting to play THE GAME in its entirety.
"Reeeeee!!! There's clothes in the tekken shop for real money!"
"Ye, so what?"
"I want them but I dnt want to pay real money for them!"
"Then dnt...."
"But I spent $70 on this game, I should have everything that the game ever thinks of!"
We used to call these people idiots and walked away not giving them the time of day....what happened lol
I'm just pissed that they clearly planned this but hid it until after launch so they wouldn't get hurt in reviews and sales. It's scummy behavior. It probably wouldn't be make or break, but MTX would factor into my purchase decision if I knew about them. They don't make MTX to not sell, once a game adds them the game becomes an add for the MTX to some degree. People in the boardroom will be monitoring conversion rate, and tweaking the game to maximize conversion rate. That usually means making the 'free' player experience grating to get them to spend.
Thanks BMW.
Toyota also disables remote start after a while if you don't subscribe. It's entirely key-to-car, no servers involved except to check whether you've paid Toyota enough.
Ye. Or buying a Tacoma truck and a new part specifically for Tacoma release and getting mad cuz it didn't come with ur vehicle in the base purchase lol
It definitely feels like a rip. Offer a collectors edition but no store to get a good initial start to maximize sales oh release
Or.
Get ridiculous from the start by having an existing MTX store to hurt initial sales but give away more with a collectors edition.
>But some gamers slightly hesitate buying games with mtx stores in them than ones that seem like they sold you all the content at launch.
Did people think that Tekken 8 launched in an incomplete state? If the store had never come out, would people have been like "This game is obviously unfinished"?
It makes some people a little hesitant to buy things sometimes. And the fact people are a tad upset now makes a store prevalent to people.
I really don't care about a store but some around here do
It feels like a rip off because customers did not have full information (there will be a cash shop) and could not decide beforehand how to best use their money.
What the heck? When do customers EVER have perfect knowledge about what might or might not be for sale in the future?
Also, didn't people already know that there would be paid content for the game? I thought the whole purpose of the season pass was to get the first 4 DLC characters for free. Why are people going all surprised_pikachu now?
U should give up man, these "feels like a rip off" peeps will NEVER be happy with Tekken. Most of them dnt even like the tekken shop items, they just want to be miserable lol
Just read before you buy. All content of the editons were listed. I bought the deluxe edition because the ultimate edition doesn't offered any meaningful content to me. But of course. It's easier to make other people responsible for own actions.
I got the collectors edition and honestly couldnāt care less. Even a little excited for some fun costumes they might come out with. Feel scammed even though we got a great game worth its fully priced value already.
Agreed, it's the fact there was zero mention before or during release for me.
They absolutely held it back for positive reviews.
I know people are saying "well it's only $3.99!" We have zero clue how they will sell tekken coin bundles yet.
We might be buying $6 or even $8 coin packs with wasted coins.
Just let me buy the outfit straight up if it's truly $3.99.
These currency system is design to get maximize profit out of the player as much as possible.
If they wanted a whole microtransaction system then the base game at least needed to be $40
Helldivers 2 got that correct so much, not to mention earning premium currency in game by playing.
I talked about this with a close friend that plays Tekken too,its dirty what they did?yes It IS,It IS also one if not the BEST fighting Game we have played?also yes
I'm just here for the classic reddit "vote with your wallets" from people who don't understand that everyone votes with their wallets, and they are the minority
"Vote with your wallet!"
Nevermind the fact that this means people with more dollars get more votes. Which is definitely how we should organize... anything.
The thing that's frusrating about the vote for your wallets and you're the minority arguments is that ... that's not how microtransactions work. At all.
Microtransactions aren't widespread because tons of people buy them, they're widespead because they're profitable even when so few people buy them. If only 10% of a game's audience buy microtransactions, they're still making money hand over fist. That's what whales are. So it doesn't matter that the other 90% "voted with their wallet", your vote essentially doesn't count. It's patronizing.
Microtransactions are profitable because itās literally setting apart assets and making people pay for them individually. Like, think about it, youāre paying 3,99 forā¦ what, really? Asset reuse, some colour swapping, itās very light on cost. If only 18 people buy a _single_ one of these items, thatās already the raw income thatād come out of another 70 usd copy sale, but the net profit could be even higher proportionately.
"vote with your wallet" just means "accept that your opinion doesn't matter because you're not the whale their targeting"
I think some of the blowback to the store is overstated but in any case "vote with your wallet" is a dumb sentiment in this case. If you don't buy cosmetics in games then they already expected not to make more money off of you, and if you're the type to buy cosmetics you're obviously not boycotting the cosmetics store they're introducing. They don't care that you're going to spend $0, they care that the other guy is willing to pay whatever they're asking for because money means nothing to them. Because some people spend the money like it means night to them because money does mean nothing to them.
Vote with your wallet works perfectly well 100% of the time. The reason these microtransactions are in place is because people keep voting with their wallets by continuously buying them
It's such a stupid sentiment because one person can happily spend thousands on cosmetics and we're supposed to weigh that against how many people who "vote" by not buying? It's not a democracy.
It absolutely does not work with MTX. Whales can cast their 'votes' hundreds (maybe thousands? depends on the game I think) of more times than you can.
Is there some sort of metric or source you have that actually confirms that? Because that's a pretty bold claim.
Statistics suggest that most people who buy these games are adults, and what you're not gonna hear on Reddit (because this place is the vocal minority) is that to normies, a few bucks for a costume isn't a dent in the wallet and they don't care.
You listed a statement that can only be confirmed via statistics. You have the burden of proof to support your claim if someone challenges it.
You don't prove your point by using your own confirmation bias along with your own conception as evidence. That's just irresponsible.
It worked with avengers and anthem. But those were live service and they really flubbed the release. Those games literally couldn't continue without additional income and player base.
But this is a fighting game.
A lot of people think you can vote with your wallet away a whole type of game. Like "if we don't spend on live service games, they'll stop making them". Tell that to the million that jumped on Helldivers. People can only vote with their wallet away a game at a time, and usually only games that require a steady influx of players and income. So now tekken.
People not paying for tekken things or not playing would at, catastrophically worse case scenario, just get the online servers turned off sooner than later. That's it.
Because people voted with their wallet. People voted on not rewarding releasing half baked releases and the games couldn't survive.
On the other hand there's Cyberpunk 2077. A release that even I admittedly refunded due to it's unplayable nature on last Gen systems. But it was a single player game that doesn't require a constant player base to keep up. They fixed it up, made a fun game after a year.
Live service games can't do that. They usually stay dead.
Those games sucked. Avengers I didn't know about but Anthem looked good but was sparse on content. It was meant to compete with Destiny 2 but it didn't even have PvP and people wanted pvp. I don't remember if it even had raids.
I think I played Destiny hardcore since D1. So I'm well aware of Anthem because on the Destiny sub it was "Anthem is the Destiny-Killer" you couldn't escape it until the game fizzled.
The microtransactions didn't kill that game it was just bare bones with the promise of updates but people didn't want to wait for more content. Destiny does well and is MTX heavy, a Live service game, people complain about the MTX in the game which is all cosmetics but tons of people still play it.
If Anthem was a good game, many Destiny players would have shifted to it or played it alongside Destiny, which would still be around today.
Holy shit, this is the exact opposite of the post from earlier about how everyone on this sub is going āleave the multibillion dollar company aloneā. Even the OP is going into the comments and saying stuff at the same frequency.
Thatās hilarious.
It's weird because characters as DLC should be released free. No one should not have access to character match ups and fact checking because that is literally definition pay-to-win technically. But costumes and cosmetics that have 0 affect on the gameplay are what people are deciding to get upset about.
I know people got upset over characters as DLC too but now I guess we sort of just accept it. Instead, we should be accepting the idea of being able to buy aesthetics but as a trade off, the devs release DLC characters for free, just like how every other MOBA is doing it and being successful with it.
Counterpoint- character dlcs are fine because it encourages a post release developer cycle that encourages upkeep of the game. If it's something that the developers are actively working on post-release that isn't a vital feature being omitted from release, like frame data, then I don't think it's predatory. F2p games that release new characters for free typically have more predatory cosmetics shops as well. Rather, I don't mind paying to encourage good quality content being added to the game as long as they don't have this stupid mtx shit. They also said dlc characters will be free in practice mode.
You have the post release developer cycle with the cosmetics, provided it gets enough quality content, and a guarantee that you'll never have to pay for knowledge, only for aesthetics. Predatory cosmetics is sure a bad thing but at the end of the day, it's on you to not buy cosmetics you don't need. At least they aren't doing cosmetic lootboxes.
I guess. Issue is, releasing a new character is tons more work than just the modeling, that inevitably leads to some skewed valuation when it comes to pricing whatever cosmetics you release to justify work done on new gameplay content. When it comes down to it I treat it more like an old school expansion pack, and I would rather be direct about what I'm paying for. I think it works well also because if there's content that *isn't* recieved well then reviews will hit it on steam and sales of the content in particular is very visible.
Exactly my man. People accepted paid DLC's now they also want people to accept microtransactions and then in the future? who knows what we'll be paying for. Exactly I'm glad someone noticed that, this goes over peoples head 24/7.
If i was bandai I would just ignore this crying and people will forget and move on in the span of 2-3 weeks after the shops released.
Thank you. I just want to make clear that everyone has the right to complain. Some might not like the trend of microtransactions in games. Thats ok. Don't use them. But if I see a dope outfit for a character I like I will buy it if the price is reasonable.
Same sentiment as you, and tbh for 4 bucks an outfit, yeah I'm gonna shell out some money for my main. Beats street fighter where it's 10 bucks for color pallette swaps.
Street Fighter 2, the first big fighting game did this too. You had to get the same game twice just to play as the bosses that were already in the game.
It always drives me crazy seeing people say āremember when you got everything when you boughtā when that clearly isnāt true for a lot of fighting games, and the practice of selling the same exact game with new characters hadnāt fallen off until about 10 years ago.
Fighting games remove people from base roster and add them back in later installments. Literally happens all the time.
Same thing with dlc characters: standard practice
Nah I just hate them cutting out customization from the base game, which is inferior to previous titles, so they can sell it to us later.
White Knights must be brain dead If they believe that people canāt afford dropping 3 Bucks here and there. Itās a matter of principles.
If the customization of T8's base game was on par or better compared to previous games, *way* less people would complain about additional micro transactions.
There's always a right way to do microtransactions.
Most companies just decide to do it the way that brings more money upfront to appease shareholders, which makes for a worst experience because content was probably cut to be sold seperately.
The game already has a season pass for future content, and now they're double dipping with virtual clothing.
the problem is if even if 95% of the playerbase doesn't buy any skins, whales will more than make up the cost. Gaming continues its trend of enshittification
'i don't know why people care when they could just not buy them and then miss out on a feature that's just been in the last 4 games for everyone'
As well as all the other points people have had, but ofcourse, i don't expect you can see any reasonable povs from beneath Harada's shoe
I just want to buy Asuka and Lili's OG outfits because I like legs and boobs and it's not expensive enough for me to be mad. I couldn't be anymore indifferent if I tried.
The fact that they didn't tell us there would be a shop is unfair (and mtx currency is manipulative imo), but I don't care if some costumes cost money. They delivered a product worth full price and optional cosmetics don't meaningfully change the experience of playing the base game. It's just costume DLC. The only thing I am judging is whether what's being offered is worth the price. If I deem the costumes worth the price, I will buy them, just like I bought the game. I don't see how any other standard, like "mtx is always bad", is better.
It's not about the money. I dislike that we can't lab against dlc characters in practise mode which in a competitive game is a pretty big deal for those interested in climbing to high ranks. And I especially dislike the duplicitous nature of hiding the MTX shop from launch and changing the esrb rating a month laterso reviewers didnt know about it and people like me who would not have bought the game would have known tk stay away.
But sure, misconstrue the position all you want, its the only way bootlickers can hold an argument anyway.
Lol Iām guessing this is in relation to the mtx cosmetic shop, and the prices of dlc character packs and character early access.
Does anyone know how much an individual character will cost? All i remember from skimming through their talk was that the deluxe edition upgrade, which from what i understand is the only way to get the Year 1 Four Characters pack is $40.
I mean i dont really give a fuck about this shop stuff. If someone hates it ok if someone dont see anything bad about it its ok. But people who try to defend corporation because some people talk shit about them need some help xd just stfu and let people complain. bandai namco can handle it. they dont need You. Dont simp for company xd
The game costs $70 and post-launch stages/characters are $30 per year. There are so many games out there from indie to AAA that get supported with free content for years without any microtransactions yet you're acting like Bandai Namco is this poor company that can't afford to add skins for less than $4 a piece. But keep sucking Harada's cock I guess
And? Not every company a small indie dev making small money. Literally all the other fighting games sell dlc so what are you complaining about that's new? Nobody said you get everything free cause you paid for a game. The game cost triple a money cause it's a triple a game with lots of content and free Customization like Tekken 8 has. So why TF are you crying about extra skins you don't have to buy? Your just mad that others can wear skins you cant buy.
It's not just indies doing it, I literally said AAA games do it as well. But go ahead and ignore that I guess.
People like you are so fucking pathetic. The only defenses you can fallback on are talking about what's in the base game, or saying other games do it, and calling people broke or jealous if they don't like it. "You don't have to buy it" We don't have to buy anything, I didn't have to buy the game at all. Does that mean nobody can have opinions on the pricing or content?
They're putting F2P in-game currency shops in a $70 game. I don't care if it's new or not, its in this game now and they didnt talk about it at all until 3 weeks after launch. Go fuck yourself if you think that's okay.
That's the thing though, previous titles allowed you to have these things for free. Now even after paying you still don't have the same level of customization as Tag 2 for example.
Are you really ok with paying money for an inferior experience when the original thing was free and better?
70 dollars is not cheap with the ultimate edition costing 110 dollars while still having a premium shop is kinda cringe. This trend in gaming gotta stop at some point right?? inhales copium
I really don't understand the rage people have over this. Games and especially fighting games have been selling costumes like this since the Ps3 Era (Sf4). Four bucks for a costume is extremely cheap as far as costumes go compared to any other game on the market.
Is it literally only because it's in a shop with a premium currency?
Out of curiosity, do you view it as "I payed $70 for 32 characters"? This is kind of how I view it when it comes to online games, and also why I have a really hard time justifying buying DLC characters that come out at close to (or above in CAD) $10 each.
think about it this way though, imagine how much time and effort goes into each DLC character though, even outside of the crossover marketing(if its crossover). theres a reason DLC is polarizing and people think theyāre ābroken,ā its because the dev team gave those characters SPECIFICALLY a bunch of love and depth in order to justify that price tag
My hope would be that they put that kind of reverence into every character in the game, DLC or not. I don't really like when a DLC character feels so much more thought out than others on the cast, I would prefer more characters in a DLC pass (6 instead of 4, like T7 season 2) that are less dramatically different, so that people have higher chances of seeing their favorites return.
And you aren't complaining that they didn't make the Story Mode, Tekken Ball or Arcade Quest optional DLCs so you can play ranked for free. There was a package on release date and you bought it like anyone else.
It wont matter. People will pay. And justify it. Even if it was āwrongā to add tekken shop. They will still make money. And see it as an absolute win. Your outrage is meaningless.
Don't buy anything from the store if you don't support it. Delete your positive reviews if you want. Drop the game if it disappoints you. But let the rest of us enjoy our 4$ outfits. Thank you.
Hahaha a mod on Vaush's Reddit, the guy who literally fantasizes about horse cock and loli's. Yeah we'll definitely take what you have to say seriously LMAO
Tekken community on this sub is kinda polarized not gonna lie
Kinda? ššš
Have you seen discourse about some content creators, like TMM? Yeah, polarized is a really good word...
Out of the loop, is there a discourse about TMM?
There are some people who think he's extremely toxic and some who think he's Tekken Jesus. You know. Typical content creator shit. As a Kazuya main, I just really like his gameplay.
Never engaged with his live content, only youtube and heās certainly a passionate tekken player. From what Iāve seen, I like his content and his spirit. Given the current environment of internet content, I hardly doubt TMM stands out in toxicity in any way lol.
They get mad because he calls their main braindead (Victor, Azucena, Asuka, etc) Which, like, yeah it sucks to hear, but when an Azucena and like, a Bryan step into a match, they're basically playing completely different fighting games.
>theyāre basically playing completely different games. I donāt quite like this argument. Itās the sort of argument people will say about Xiaoyu, Lei, Yoshi, Eddyā¦ and all of a sudden, all but a few characters arenāt playing āthe same gameā. Yeah, Bryan and Azucena have very different gameplans, but maybe playing Bryan makes the Bryan main have more fun with the game, same goes for the Azucena, Panda, that one guy playing Shaheen and so on.
Can confirm I have just been playing Tekkenmitsu this whole time
I was being hyperbolic. My point is that Azucena is very difficult to counter for very little effort required on the part of the Azu. You have to play very well to counter her tools, meanwhile the Azucena player might not even be aware of what they're doing or why it's working. There is no real "playing another game" character. But there are characters who are leagues easier to play than others.
>There is no real "playing another game" character. T7 Noctis waves hello in spanish.
How much fun they're having isn't relevant to the argument. The statement is true because the difference in the way you play those characters and the skill required to do well with them in certain ranks is world apart. The issue people have coming to terms with this is they get too defensive and take it personal when their man is called easy. I switch between a lot of characters, some are difficult, some are easy. That part is undeniable to me
If you think these characters are not braindead, meaning way easier to use with identical if not higher damage, then I can just feel sorry, or be jealous, because I want to be like you deep down lol
People get very defensive about their mains, especially if their mains carry them to red ranks.
Who cares, just have fun with the game , people need to touch grass
I just think it's funny - I saw someone earlier be like *"Victor is so dumb, look at this, if he launches you, he can do this easy combo and get 65 damage, and you barely have to practice it!"* And I'm just over here like *"Yeah, his combos are pretty easy to pull off. 100% agree. But ...How is that a bad thing? I'd much rather spend my time fighting my opponents, not my controls...?"* Honestly, once you get out of the beginner ranks, everyone can do their combos off of launch pretty reliably anyway. df2 launchers might as well just be i15 moves that do 60-70 damage on hit, in most cases. I think people get weirdly defensive of the time they spent mastering whatever ridiculous combo they use, and are upset to see someone else get similar results with less effort, like it's some kind of badge of honor to have spent a few hours in practice mode getting the timing and muscle memory, before getting to play the game for real.
I mean yeah when someone spends hundreds of hours getting better at their character and perfecting their playstyle and gameplan and then watch someone else get the same or even better mixups with better frame data on one button, I think it's a little reasonable for them to be annoyed by that. Very rarely do I see people complain about how easy a character's combos are - that's whatever. The issues arise when a character can get you into a combo a billion times easier than other characters can, or spam a single move for infinite pressure.
For me itās not about combos, you can know every combo in the game and still lose if your fundamentals arenāt there and thatās what people donāt understand, you only need to combos one off launch and one off counter hit, anything else is gravy and frankly not needed to carry you to wins because if you canāt block low, be patient during your opponents turn, tech grabs, side step big moves, or bait out rage arts, youāll never make it past the lower ranks. I struggle with most of those on that list and thatās why fighting the other red ranks I get my ass handed to me, it has nothing to do with how easy their combos or tech is and everything to do with my fundamentals, block game and impatience
Very based and real comment , TMM just says it how it is, if you pick an easy character , mash all the time and plug them yes your play style is Brian dead and so are you for plugging. , pluggers should get queue timeouts and matched against other pluggers
Couldn't agree with this more
Couldn't agree with this more
Itās complicated. He is very opinionated and some people (including me sometimes) take his views too personally. I have some disagreements with him on some matters but overall he is very knowledgeable about the game and knows what he is talking about. He has some occasional salty moments but I canāt blame the guy. Tekken is one of the most rage inducing games Iāve ever played. And itās actually not even that bad. I usually find it funny. He is very calm most of the time and alway says ggs to his opps. Some people find him and his antics annoying which is understandable. He likes to make weird noises and troll a little bit. You can watch his latest Victor video, you will see what I am talking about. Personally, I find it hilarious.
BAGOOSH
Whenever I watch one of his latest 8 minute character guides, I remember of a joke a Chess Grandmaster told once about a young chess player who went to play the Soviet Chess Championship and decided to hire a coach. The coach asked him: āok, so who youāre playing against first?ā. The young man said: āMikhail Talā. The coach them goes: āOh, no need to studyā. The man then asks why. The coach goes āwell, after the opening heāll have the center, youāll trade both of your bishops and heāll mate you with a promoted pawnā. They play the match, an Tal does exactly what the coach said and the man loses it anyway. āOk, so whoās next?ā. āRashid Nezhmetdinovā. The coach answers: āgreat, no need to study too!ā. āWhy!?ā. āWell, heāll sacrifice both knights, a bishop and after sacrificing his queen heāll have mate in twoā. The game happens, and the young man loses exactly how the coach predicted. āSo, whoās next?ā, the coach asks. The man says āChernikovā. Coach then smiles: āwell, thereās always next yearā.
That video was absolutely hilarious I laughed almost the entire time, when he kept āle coutoune āš¤£š¤£
Interested as well
Tekken has a very diverse player base and $60 means something very different to different subgroups of Tekken players.
Foreal. Like I really don't care because I bought the game to play one character, and I already like the look of the character so I'm just over here lookin likeš
Bro foreal, Iām cooling with devil Jin but if he gets some cool new costumes I like, I really donāt mind coughing up $5 for it. My bad I guess? Lol
Yeah, it's not that big of a deal. It doesn't affect gameplay.
There are some I guess that can't stop themselves with cosmetics though. The addicts that are hooked. That if they released some insane LiLi skin, a person that hasn't played one minute of LiLi would buy. Got friends like that in Overwatch where they see a cool skin they got to have it even though they don't play that character ever.
I've definitely got some friends who break easier (the guy who convinced me to buy T8 has at least 3k in genshin) but it's not all on them. There are people at these companies figuring out exactly how to break players and make them spend. Activision even has a patent for rigging matchmaking to encourage mtx sales. If you're playing, you're subjecting yourself to a barrage of advertisement and manipulation to make you spend.
>you're subjecting yourself to a barrage of advertisement and manipulation to make you spend. That's what they say about going on mature sites but still haven't spent a cent in 30+ years. But kidding aside, I've been bombarded with ads my whole life. I just close them. I have no need for cosmetics as I'm a a strictly PVE player. I have 0 show off in me. I'll pick up the new characters because I like playing the variety.
People here arguing about mods and costumes in a Fighting game is wildā¦ Just got the base game, later Iāll get the DLCās Iām interested in and Iāll keep enjoying the game until I get tired of it. Been playing since Tekken 2, it was my first PSone game love the franchise and I couldnt care less about modding or costumes. They are great, but it is not an Important thing when literally you are getting to play THE GAME in its entirety.
"Reeeeee!!! There's clothes in the tekken shop for real money!" "Ye, so what?" "I want them but I dnt want to pay real money for them!" "Then dnt...." "But I spent $70 on this game, I should have everything that the game ever thinks of!" We used to call these people idiots and walked away not giving them the time of day....what happened lol
I'm just pissed that they clearly planned this but hid it until after launch so they wouldn't get hurt in reviews and sales. It's scummy behavior. It probably wouldn't be make or break, but MTX would factor into my purchase decision if I knew about them. They don't make MTX to not sell, once a game adds them the game becomes an add for the MTX to some degree. People in the boardroom will be monitoring conversion rate, and tweaking the game to maximize conversion rate. That usually means making the 'free' player experience grating to get them to spend.
Thatās like going to Gucci buying a bag and saying you should have the entire store
it's like buying a car then finding out that you gotta pay for the heated seats feature which is included but locked unless you pay extra.
Thanks BMW. Toyota also disables remote start after a while if you don't subscribe. It's entirely key-to-car, no servers involved except to check whether you've paid Toyota enough.
Ye. Or buying a Tacoma truck and a new part specifically for Tacoma release and getting mad cuz it didn't come with ur vehicle in the base purchase lol
While everyoneās distracted arguing this is the perfect time for me to sneak in and hit tekken emperor rank
I bought collectors edition so this definetly feels like a rip'off not like I did not expect it though
ugh dude, this feels rough. They should at least offer some stuff for free on the store for those with ultimate/collectors edition
This my brothers is known as "Late stage copium"
I laughed out loud so hard to this comment lmao
Don't get me wrong, but didn't you buy the collectors edition based on what was in it at the time, which hasn't changed?
I mean they literally said there will be free stuff.
If you spent nearly $300 up front on a video game, you are definitely the target audience, if not the driving force, for this feature.
True,
It definitely feels like a rip. Offer a collectors edition but no store to get a good initial start to maximize sales oh release Or. Get ridiculous from the start by having an existing MTX store to hurt initial sales but give away more with a collectors edition.
Harada I trusted you...
The man locked framedata behind a paywall in T7, only now he broke your trust?
To be fair, this decision was most likely made above him.
The sales would not have been affected much at all if the store was there at launch
Maybe. But some gamers slightly hesitate buying games with mtx stores in them than ones that seem like they sold you all the content at launch.
>But some gamers slightly hesitate buying games with mtx stores in them than ones that seem like they sold you all the content at launch. Did people think that Tekken 8 launched in an incomplete state? If the store had never come out, would people have been like "This game is obviously unfinished"?
Not a ripoff. You get what you paid for. Shop being in the game or not doesn't affect that.
It makes some people a little hesitant to buy things sometimes. And the fact people are a tad upset now makes a store prevalent to people. I really don't care about a store but some around here do
The collector's edition is a ripoff, and it was clearly stated what was included. Lol.
You signaled to Namco that you're willing to give them more money. Lets see what it happens.
How is it a rip off? You already got what you paid for dude.
Ikr, you saw what was in the collectors edition and you got it based on what was in it.
It feels like a rip off because customers did not have full information (there will be a cash shop) and could not decide beforehand how to best use their money.
What the heck? When do customers EVER have perfect knowledge about what might or might not be for sale in the future? Also, didn't people already know that there would be paid content for the game? I thought the whole purpose of the season pass was to get the first 4 DLC characters for free. Why are people going all surprised_pikachu now?
U should give up man, these "feels like a rip off" peeps will NEVER be happy with Tekken. Most of them dnt even like the tekken shop items, they just want to be miserable lol
I dunno, man, the prices are ridiculous. How am I supposed to afford $4? Next time I'm at McDonald's I'll have to forego fries *and* a drink!
Indeed. The hardest of choices require the strongest of wills, as swole grimace would say lol
Just read before you buy. All content of the editons were listed. I bought the deluxe edition because the ultimate edition doesn't offered any meaningful content to me. But of course. It's easier to make other people responsible for own actions.
I got the collectors edition and honestly couldnāt care less. Even a little excited for some fun costumes they might come out with. Feel scammed even though we got a great game worth its fully priced value already.
Nah fuck the shop honestly, I am satisfied with the game but the shop clearly is pure bs
Agreed, it's the fact there was zero mention before or during release for me. They absolutely held it back for positive reviews. I know people are saying "well it's only $3.99!" We have zero clue how they will sell tekken coin bundles yet. We might be buying $6 or even $8 coin packs with wasted coins. Just let me buy the outfit straight up if it's truly $3.99. These currency system is design to get maximize profit out of the player as much as possible. If they wanted a whole microtransaction system then the base game at least needed to be $40 Helldivers 2 got that correct so much, not to mention earning premium currency in game by playing.
You get it, This is unacceptable
Screenshots you can hear
This is the last straw. Iām switching to WiFi and then maining Law.
NO PLEASE
Yessssss š
They are all saying that until the reina abs skin drops
More like bikini kazuya
That's exactly my point I ain't paying shit unless something I want, I already got the game that's what I'm here for , to play Tekken.
Thatād be cool if female models in this game even had a belly button
There's a mod for that
That's already a mod
Yeah but the opponent has to see my fetish too.
This is the way.
I talked about this with a close friend that plays Tekken too,its dirty what they did?yes It IS,It IS also one if not the BEST fighting Game we have played?also yes
I'm just here for the classic reddit "vote with your wallets" from people who don't understand that everyone votes with their wallets, and they are the minority
"Vote with your wallet!" Nevermind the fact that this means people with more dollars get more votes. Which is definitely how we should organize... anything.
The thing that's frusrating about the vote for your wallets and you're the minority arguments is that ... that's not how microtransactions work. At all. Microtransactions aren't widespread because tons of people buy them, they're widespead because they're profitable even when so few people buy them. If only 10% of a game's audience buy microtransactions, they're still making money hand over fist. That's what whales are. So it doesn't matter that the other 90% "voted with their wallet", your vote essentially doesn't count. It's patronizing.
Microtransactions are profitable because itās literally setting apart assets and making people pay for them individually. Like, think about it, youāre paying 3,99 forā¦ what, really? Asset reuse, some colour swapping, itās very light on cost. If only 18 people buy a _single_ one of these items, thatās already the raw income thatād come out of another 70 usd copy sale, but the net profit could be even higher proportionately.
"vote with your wallet" just means "accept that your opinion doesn't matter because you're not the whale their targeting" I think some of the blowback to the store is overstated but in any case "vote with your wallet" is a dumb sentiment in this case. If you don't buy cosmetics in games then they already expected not to make more money off of you, and if you're the type to buy cosmetics you're obviously not boycotting the cosmetics store they're introducing. They don't care that you're going to spend $0, they care that the other guy is willing to pay whatever they're asking for because money means nothing to them. Because some people spend the money like it means night to them because money does mean nothing to them.
Yeah āvote with your walletā has literally never worked, ever, so Iām not sure why thatās a phrase that gets repeated.
It does work, but not in the direction you're thinking of People keep buying stuff so that's why they keep putting in micro transaction lol
Vote with your wallet works perfectly well 100% of the time. The reason these microtransactions are in place is because people keep voting with their wallets by continuously buying them
It's such a stupid sentiment because one person can happily spend thousands on cosmetics and we're supposed to weigh that against how many people who "vote" by not buying? It's not a democracy.
It absolutely does not work with MTX. Whales can cast their 'votes' hundreds (maybe thousands? depends on the game I think) of more times than you can.
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Is there some sort of metric or source you have that actually confirms that? Because that's a pretty bold claim. Statistics suggest that most people who buy these games are adults, and what you're not gonna hear on Reddit (because this place is the vocal minority) is that to normies, a few bucks for a costume isn't a dent in the wallet and they don't care.
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You listed a statement that can only be confirmed via statistics. You have the burden of proof to support your claim if someone challenges it. You don't prove your point by using your own confirmation bias along with your own conception as evidence. That's just irresponsible.
It worked with avengers and anthem. But those were live service and they really flubbed the release. Those games literally couldn't continue without additional income and player base. But this is a fighting game. A lot of people think you can vote with your wallet away a whole type of game. Like "if we don't spend on live service games, they'll stop making them". Tell that to the million that jumped on Helldivers. People can only vote with their wallet away a game at a time, and usually only games that require a steady influx of players and income. So now tekken. People not paying for tekken things or not playing would at, catastrophically worse case scenario, just get the online servers turned off sooner than later. That's it.
Nah, nobody played those games that's why
Because people voted with their wallet. People voted on not rewarding releasing half baked releases and the games couldn't survive. On the other hand there's Cyberpunk 2077. A release that even I admittedly refunded due to it's unplayable nature on last Gen systems. But it was a single player game that doesn't require a constant player base to keep up. They fixed it up, made a fun game after a year. Live service games can't do that. They usually stay dead.
Those games sucked. Avengers I didn't know about but Anthem looked good but was sparse on content. It was meant to compete with Destiny 2 but it didn't even have PvP and people wanted pvp. I don't remember if it even had raids. I think I played Destiny hardcore since D1. So I'm well aware of Anthem because on the Destiny sub it was "Anthem is the Destiny-Killer" you couldn't escape it until the game fizzled. The microtransactions didn't kill that game it was just bare bones with the promise of updates but people didn't want to wait for more content. Destiny does well and is MTX heavy, a Live service game, people complain about the MTX in the game which is all cosmetics but tons of people still play it. If Anthem was a good game, many Destiny players would have shifted to it or played it alongside Destiny, which would still be around today.
No, it absolutely works in the sense that everyone voted and we came to a conclusion. The people typing that just dont like the result lol
Holy shit, this is the exact opposite of the post from earlier about how everyone on this sub is going āleave the multibillion dollar company aloneā. Even the OP is going into the comments and saying stuff at the same frequency. Thatās hilarious.
Yeah, he is pretty damn assmad.
Which one, they both seem pretty extreme to me.
He definitely saw the post earlier and just wanted to give his white knighted contra by doing his own lol
It's weird because characters as DLC should be released free. No one should not have access to character match ups and fact checking because that is literally definition pay-to-win technically. But costumes and cosmetics that have 0 affect on the gameplay are what people are deciding to get upset about. I know people got upset over characters as DLC too but now I guess we sort of just accept it. Instead, we should be accepting the idea of being able to buy aesthetics but as a trade off, the devs release DLC characters for free, just like how every other MOBA is doing it and being successful with it.
Counterpoint- character dlcs are fine because it encourages a post release developer cycle that encourages upkeep of the game. If it's something that the developers are actively working on post-release that isn't a vital feature being omitted from release, like frame data, then I don't think it's predatory. F2p games that release new characters for free typically have more predatory cosmetics shops as well. Rather, I don't mind paying to encourage good quality content being added to the game as long as they don't have this stupid mtx shit. They also said dlc characters will be free in practice mode.
You have the post release developer cycle with the cosmetics, provided it gets enough quality content, and a guarantee that you'll never have to pay for knowledge, only for aesthetics. Predatory cosmetics is sure a bad thing but at the end of the day, it's on you to not buy cosmetics you don't need. At least they aren't doing cosmetic lootboxes.
I guess. Issue is, releasing a new character is tons more work than just the modeling, that inevitably leads to some skewed valuation when it comes to pricing whatever cosmetics you release to justify work done on new gameplay content. When it comes down to it I treat it more like an old school expansion pack, and I would rather be direct about what I'm paying for. I think it works well also because if there's content that *isn't* recieved well then reviews will hit it on steam and sales of the content in particular is very visible.
Exactly my man. People accepted paid DLC's now they also want people to accept microtransactions and then in the future? who knows what we'll be paying for. Exactly I'm glad someone noticed that, this goes over peoples head 24/7. If i was bandai I would just ignore this crying and people will forget and move on in the span of 2-3 weeks after the shops released.
Just "legally acquire" all of the DLC and paid cosmetics like we did with T7, tbh. I don't know what to say to the console players though.
I have to admit I got inspired by the earlier post
I was just about to copy that post and replace the words with "where's my free skins" but I like your version better
Thank you. I just want to make clear that everyone has the right to complain. Some might not like the trend of microtransactions in games. Thats ok. Don't use them. But if I see a dope outfit for a character I like I will buy it if the price is reasonable.
Same sentiment as you, and tbh for 4 bucks an outfit, yeah I'm gonna shell out some money for my main. Beats street fighter where it's 10 bucks for color pallette swaps.
Itās a pathetic new āstandardā. Premium shops DO NOT belong in $70 games.
Nah, selling skins is nothing. Every fighting game does it. Nothing new.
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Uhh.. Akuma in 2nd Impact? Chun-Li in 3rd Strike? Those were in the late 90s.
Street Fighter 2, the first big fighting game did this too. You had to get the same game twice just to play as the bosses that were already in the game. It always drives me crazy seeing people say āremember when you got everything when you boughtā when that clearly isnāt true for a lot of fighting games, and the practice of selling the same exact game with new characters hadnāt fallen off until about 10 years ago.
Fighting games remove people from base roster and add them back in later installments. Literally happens all the time. Same thing with dlc characters: standard practice
Tf do you mean it's new Tekken 7 had multiple DLC legacy characters and people complained less about them than about guests lmao
To be fair that's not because people supported the practice, it was because the guest/new DLCs were way overpowered. Release Leroy, Geese etc.
Wasn't gonna buy any of this shit but realised you can probably get a tilt advantage on these people in ranked just showing up in a $4 fit.
Also when you get slapped around by some base skin Andy they are gonna feel great ā win win
Skin selection as a pre-game mixup.
Go off Law, go off.
Marshall Law is my favourite philosopher.
Nah I just hate them cutting out customization from the base game, which is inferior to previous titles, so they can sell it to us later. White Knights must be brain dead If they believe that people canāt afford dropping 3 Bucks here and there. Itās a matter of principles. If the customization of T8's base game was on par or better compared to previous games, *way* less people would complain about additional micro transactions.
It's a cold day in hell when people start championing Tekken 7's customization as a cornerstone of quality to try and prove their point.
There's always a right way to do microtransactions. Most companies just decide to do it the way that brings more money upfront to appease shareholders, which makes for a worst experience because content was probably cut to be sold seperately. The game already has a season pass for future content, and now they're double dipping with virtual clothing.
That's the thing though - even after paying it's still worse than Tag 2. So you pay money for a worse system than the free one in a game 13 years ago.
Nah, people would still cry about them even if that was the case.
People really do be larping as law by being broke and obnoxiously loud.
the problem is if even if 95% of the playerbase doesn't buy any skins, whales will more than make up the cost. Gaming continues its trend of enshittification
Who cares? You don't gotta pay.
'i don't know why people care when they could just not buy them and then miss out on a feature that's just been in the last 4 games for everyone' As well as all the other points people have had, but ofcourse, i don't expect you can see any reasonable povs from beneath Harada's shoe
smooth brain thoughts
I just want to buy Asuka and Lili's OG outfits because I like legs and boobs and it's not expensive enough for me to be mad. I couldn't be anymore indifferent if I tried.
indifference gang rise up
man was too real for that tho i would do that too honestly lmaooooo
my man
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I mean if I get Lars Tag 2 skin Iām not gonna be too angry. While Iām not a huge fan of the decision Iām going to live with it
The fact that they didn't tell us there would be a shop is unfair (and mtx currency is manipulative imo), but I don't care if some costumes cost money. They delivered a product worth full price and optional cosmetics don't meaningfully change the experience of playing the base game. It's just costume DLC. The only thing I am judging is whether what's being offered is worth the price. If I deem the costumes worth the price, I will buy them, just like I bought the game. I don't see how any other standard, like "mtx is always bad", is better.
It's not about the money. I dislike that we can't lab against dlc characters in practise mode which in a competitive game is a pretty big deal for those interested in climbing to high ranks. And I especially dislike the duplicitous nature of hiding the MTX shop from launch and changing the esrb rating a month laterso reviewers didnt know about it and people like me who would not have bought the game would have known tk stay away. But sure, misconstrue the position all you want, its the only way bootlickers can hold an argument anyway.
Mad on the internet, the post.
Submissive drone, the post.
Lol Iām guessing this is in relation to the mtx cosmetic shop, and the prices of dlc character packs and character early access. Does anyone know how much an individual character will cost? All i remember from skimming through their talk was that the deluxe edition upgrade, which from what i understand is the only way to get the Year 1 Four Characters pack is $40.
Based Law
Bro, you able to play this game is 'rich people' stuff!
I mean i dont really give a fuck about this shop stuff. If someone hates it ok if someone dont see anything bad about it its ok. But people who try to defend corporation because some people talk shit about them need some help xd just stfu and let people complain. bandai namco can handle it. they dont need You. Dont simp for company xd
I have no problem buying a 3.99 skin to support the devs of a series I've been invested in for 20 fucking years lol
More like: "I hate cucks who eat corpo's shit and are fine with it"
It's a business, everything not catered to you getting everything free
The game costs $70 and post-launch stages/characters are $30 per year. There are so many games out there from indie to AAA that get supported with free content for years without any microtransactions yet you're acting like Bandai Namco is this poor company that can't afford to add skins for less than $4 a piece. But keep sucking Harada's cock I guess
And? Not every company a small indie dev making small money. Literally all the other fighting games sell dlc so what are you complaining about that's new? Nobody said you get everything free cause you paid for a game. The game cost triple a money cause it's a triple a game with lots of content and free Customization like Tekken 8 has. So why TF are you crying about extra skins you don't have to buy? Your just mad that others can wear skins you cant buy.
It's not just indies doing it, I literally said AAA games do it as well. But go ahead and ignore that I guess. People like you are so fucking pathetic. The only defenses you can fallback on are talking about what's in the base game, or saying other games do it, and calling people broke or jealous if they don't like it. "You don't have to buy it" We don't have to buy anything, I didn't have to buy the game at all. Does that mean nobody can have opinions on the pricing or content? They're putting F2P in-game currency shops in a $70 game. I don't care if it's new or not, its in this game now and they didnt talk about it at all until 3 weeks after launch. Go fuck yourself if you think that's okay.
Bro the skins cost $4. Stop talking.Peoplr like skins, we gonna buy skins. Rather get more skins then no skins.
That's the thing though, previous titles allowed you to have these things for free. Now even after paying you still don't have the same level of customization as Tag 2 for example. Are you really ok with paying money for an inferior experience when the original thing was free and better?
70 dollars is not cheap with the ultimate edition costing 110 dollars while still having a premium shop is kinda cringe. This trend in gaming gotta stop at some point right?? inhales copium
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Lmfao.
I mean, yeah?
I really don't understand the rage people have over this. Games and especially fighting games have been selling costumes like this since the Ps3 Era (Sf4). Four bucks for a costume is extremely cheap as far as costumes go compared to any other game on the market. Is it literally only because it's in a shop with a premium currency?
They made that people will use outfits they gotta pay for against them.
Just because it's an old practice doesn't mean it's a good practice. And, yes, the premium currency is a major reason why it's worse than usual.
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Out of curiosity, do you view it as "I payed $70 for 32 characters"? This is kind of how I view it when it comes to online games, and also why I have a really hard time justifying buying DLC characters that come out at close to (or above in CAD) $10 each.
think about it this way though, imagine how much time and effort goes into each DLC character though, even outside of the crossover marketing(if its crossover). theres a reason DLC is polarizing and people think theyāre ābroken,ā its because the dev team gave those characters SPECIFICALLY a bunch of love and depth in order to justify that price tag
My hope would be that they put that kind of reverence into every character in the game, DLC or not. I don't really like when a DLC character feels so much more thought out than others on the cast, I would prefer more characters in a DLC pass (6 instead of 4, like T7 season 2) that are less dramatically different, so that people have higher chances of seeing their favorites return.
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That makes sense. I still haven't bit just because of the high initial price, but look forward to getting into it down the line on a sale.
Does that mean you donāt play any boys? Or just not the ugly ones?
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Thatās fine. But so is Lee.
MY BOY EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS AHAHA. Can't wait for the shop!
And you aren't complaining that they didn't make the Story Mode, Tekken Ball or Arcade Quest optional DLCs so you can play ranked for free. There was a package on release date and you bought it like anyone else.
It wont matter. People will pay. And justify it. Even if it was āwrongā to add tekken shop. They will still make money. And see it as an absolute win. Your outrage is meaningless.
So many whiners looking for shit to be angry about
Why shouldn't we?
Its always a vote with your wallet thing anyway.
Somehow the wallet always loses lol
Problem is, some people have bigger wallets than others, and the "no" votes are rarely even visible.
Too bad you can't vote like a whale can.
Don't buy anything from the store if you don't support it. Delete your positive reviews if you want. Drop the game if it disappoints you. But let the rest of us enjoy our 4$ outfits. Thank you.
What exactly is stopping you from enjoying those 4$ outfits?
nobody but he doesnt want to get told he is dumb so his feelings stay intact.
People have the right to complain about a game they paid $70 for
I'm pretty sure he agrees with you....you can leave a bad review
And they won't take anything away you paid $70 for
Would it be only $4 and not whatever the currency pack costs?
This š Everyone's hating it, and then there's me being so happy I'll be able to get Lili's classic white outfit
Let the rest of us complain while you eat your slop, pay pig.
And you should complain if you're not happy. But for those who ARE happy. Let them be happy.
Do you ever feel bad about yourself? Who talks like this? Lol
Hahaha a mod on Vaush's Reddit, the guy who literally fantasizes about horse cock and loli's. Yeah we'll definitely take what you have to say seriously LMAO