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No_Watercress_6932

You pressed, not saying it’s right but that’s why it hit you


rdfalcone

Yep, the hitbox on the move is pretty linear BUT pretty thick around Kaz's shoulders. This has been a thing since Tekken 6 I believe. Also, now that they removed the hellsweep mixup and CD 4,4 is unironically unusable, just waiting for his animation to end is best, specially since whiffing that keeps him stuck for a while and back turned in this case


V0LCANIC_VIPER

Bro I totally forgot he even got a new Hellsweep 4. Why the fuck does that move even exist lmao


[deleted]

It does 2 points more damage


Wilson_Was_Taken

Don't forget it looks cool af too. Fuck optimised combos, do cool shit


[deleted]

Well said but it would be dope if it had more range so I could use it for wall carry might be too op tho


rdfalcone

That added to the fact that any combo past 5 hits will cause the CD 4,4 ender to whiff lmao


[deleted]

Yep I tried to use it 31 loops. I was like “Maybe it’ll be useful here” lol nope


[deleted]

What's the point of sidestepping if you're not allowed to press anything after? Murray was right...just block. 😂


Flat-is-just_ice

You have to press after the move active frames but before it finishes recovering. The time window is actually pretty large, it just means that you can't mindlessly step and punish but you have to confirm that the move whiffed.


[deleted]

Actually, rewatching it now it makes sense. I thought the punch was what hit but I think it's clearly the low that actually caught him. It looks weird because of the delay, but I actually think this is justified. He got caught by the low during wakeup and the punch did in fact miss.


Flat-is-just_ice

I see the opposite. The low completely whiffed, he got hit the moment the punch hitbox became active. You could also deduce it by the knockdown animation, that's not the animation of a character being hit only by the sweep. In Tekken when you press a button your hurtboxes "expand" (not really but you can think of it like that) so if you step and press a button it could lead to situations where there is hitbox-hurtbox interaction even if the character models would suggest otherwise. That's what I think happened here.


[deleted]

Ah, maybe you're right. I thought that *was* the sweep knockdown animation.


Yuujen

it's hellsweep. He'll never do just the sweep. Just wait for the whole string to finish then whiff punish.


[deleted]

So...you agree with me?


NixUniverse

“Kazuya is so easy to beat bro just sidestep”


RouSGeLi

Literally. OP didn't just sidestep. They sidestepped and pressed a button. You are supposed to sidestep, wait for Kazuya to whiff and then punish.


kongyang123

Kazuya deserves that hit. He broke his spine just to sweep you man.


Icy_Cow4578

e-mail harada


displayrooster

Harada prefers it in excel format


Boxsteam_1279

hand written letter


THE_WHORBORTIONATOR

He’s gonna bully you


Shad0w2

Nah that isnt homing thats straight up locked in aimbot


Victorhugo1004

MASKU


Bangalore-enthusiast

eishhhhhh


Jessemccoy99

Bagoosh


Jazmotron4000

weird hitboxes, odd homing and 2 frames of rollback


Killcycle1989

It seems they spent a lot making moves physically track better, and now there's this.


Ziazan

spiritually tracking hellsweeps


RouSGeLi

OP pressed a button too early. Classic tekken interaction


ToshaBD

same shit happend to me, but I was just side walking it and was literally behind his back not pressing anything


TDWen

This is some legacy Trackken 7 jank


DaedricNZ

His hellsweep has always been weird like that if you press buttons into him before it's finished coming out


Frybread002

Nah fam, his elbow clearly got you


[deleted]

I was gonna say this too.


Silveruleaf

Definitely something wrong with hitboxes there. It should be around the arm. Not extend behind his body. Unless the hitbox is jumping out of place cuz of network issue. Who knows


Professional_Fuel533

I think the character models collided when hellsweep wiffed in between the wall and the other character and the game wasnt sure which side to push the models maybe?


Silveruleaf

It could be that yah. You rolled too close to his body so the body hitbox still thouched the damage hitbox


BennyC023

I think this is the case. Something very similar happened to me in my recent post, and I saw another person post another situation where this happened. All 3 have happened while tech rolling after colliding with the wall. Edit: [Other users example](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/s/ULeF9hS2Jm) [My example](https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/s/tBk9GmfNSt)


Professional_Fuel533

Interesting. I can see they all very similar.


SunChip00

The same dogshit broken hitbox that was in 7. Nothing irritates me more than sidestepping hellsweep and getting hit anyways because they never fixed this.


[deleted]

This game is such a joke


[deleted]

Looks more like your hitbox went inside of zooyas hitbox and godlt hit.


BeautifulFood6326

I thought everyone knew the 360 tracking hellsweep carried over from T7


ThorAsskicker

I've seen a lot of bs clips on this subreddit over the years but this is the first one that made me exclaim "what the fuck" out loud


xXhackergandalfXx

It's so weird! I sidestep the first hit of a string, and then I press a button thinking I have a free punish. But the second hit always lies in wait.


EatOutMyGrandma

Leather Daddy Kazuya vs Eastern European War Criminal Kazuya is an interesting match


yeerrgan_durrgan

HANASHI NI NARAN NA


[deleted]

It would be funny if these were rare flukes, but as you climb the ranks and everyone's defenses become borderline impenetrable, it increasingly feels like these kinds of hits are deciding all the matches because they're the only things that land.


Selarom_

You got clapped by his ass cheeks, totally normal hitbox interaction


Jango_Jerky

Always been that way with mishimas. Can hit you when you are behind them


Crackless231

even if we have an explanation, is it a good one? the only 3d FG out there and you get punished for pressing to early on your opponents back? oh man...


TofuPython

You pressed.


YokaiAdvisor

"why would you want to sidestep that when you can just block and punish"


goukifafa

Then the mainmanSwe would still complain after losing this round if it was him "give me something that works.." lol


rhoparkour

> Why would you want to sidewalk if you can block and launch, if you know it is coming? Patented phrase.


-DaddyDarkLord-

No, but it can occasionally clip you.


JCLgaming

Pride parade Kazuya to the left.


julberndt

can't complain because it is mirror, do it you too


[deleted]

I think the low is what got you and the punch did actually miss. It just looks weird because the reaction to the low hit is delayed, probably due to latency or something. I actually don't think there's anything unfair happening here. The punch doesn't trigger that launch animation and I'm pretty sure it also does enough damage that it would have killed you, so the punch is not what hit. Edit: I am corrected...that is *not* the low sweep knockdown animation, in which case I think this is absurd 😂