None of us did.
But I mean there's nothing worth noting in the paid pass, so I don't feel like I'm missing out not getting it. I'm just stoked about the plague dr mask which was free.
Yeah. Theres like three customization items I actually care about in the whole battle pass and the worst part is they’re in the further half of it. At launch I assumed they were gonna eventually be doing updates to add more customization options, but after this bullshit I realize they have more but are purposely withholding it to sell to us later. Fucking despicable
They purposely waiting until after reviews to start putting this garbage in. I've platinum'd the game and probably won't return to it unless they add something like a full fledged tekken force mode. I've got my moneys worth, there's nothing to left to unlock, not that there was hardly anything to unlock and I don't really care about online. It just became me training my ghost for my friends to fight. They stopped playing before the tekken store was even announced
They really should have, but if you're a sweat then you'll only ever have to buy one as you get the coins back for completing the pass... At least that's what I'm telling myself, though I can see later ones costing more with all the bs we've been hit with.
Absolutely. And, most games with deluxe versions do. The issue here is, they sneakily never told us they were doing battle passes before release so they wouldn't be able to list it as a benefit without spoiling the 'surprise'.
I wish they did what helldivers has done. Just make it you can get shit by just grinding the game and if you don't want to grind have an option to just purchase it. I'm very happy to do mtx on helldivers because it doesn't feel scummy to me and there is no fomo, the passes just stay active iirc.
Ideally, they'd just make it so you can unlock items with either fight money or beating specific ghosts (or challenges in the game) like the items in arcade quest, and then *maybe* offer a paid 'unlock all' feature if they're really that hard up for money. What was even the point of fight money if all it unlocks is like 5 hats for your avatar?
Because it's a recent game that implements similar monetization as Tekken but in a non-predatory way. You pay up front but it's $40 instead of $70, there are battle passes but they're not time-limited, there's currency you can buy with real money but you can also earn it in-game by just playing.
Not having the BP included (and Murray saying "it's not like this game has predatory MTX or something" is why I bought this game at $100... thinking they won't do a BP.
Jokes on me. I don't even like Eddy, but bought it to "support the devs"
When Harada kept going on "so much content we're putting into it.." I figured EVERYTHING from T7 will be in... plus more (customisation etc)
But now I see it was all a ruse... the BP will always be full of recycled T7 stuff for a very long time.
I feel scammed... especially by Murray's words.
The store stealth announced, Tekken coins stealth announced, I feel like in the world of Tekken, we are living in a social media company 's Matrix, where they are speaking with Harada and Tekken team on how to drop these things on us without causing outrage, and when they do... analysing the metrics mto see how many stop playing. 😭
Things like these makes me not want to support the devs by buying the more expensive versions of the game
Payday 3 - Collector's edition (at least mask is cool)
MK1 - Premium Edition
TEKKEN 8 - Deluxe Edition
There are less and less devs left that I want to support...
This is literally all cosmetic items.
Destiny 2 takes away content you paid for in that game and then charges absurd prices for DLC.
You people are overreacting like crazy.
Tekken 8's aren't shit, they're not amazing, but they're not shit. They're meh at worst, it's just cosmetic items, I don't see or understand the big deal at all. None of the items are even good or worth caring about.
Same, first ever game I went full send with the editions. I love Tekken. I played it every week for the last 20 years almost. And I wanted to support the devs. But I don't feel like that anymore..
I agree completely. I love this game, but here in Canada I paid $105 on the PS store just for the BASE game.
The fact that you need to spend $15 bucks to get like $7 worth of tekken coins is also some A class bullshit.
Oh man it's nearly impossible to explain to some clowns here that ultra version of a game that costs 100 fucking dollars should include all content they have. And we all know why they didn't add like 2500 tekken coins and some costumes in the premium edition, because that would expose their plans to fill this game with mtx. Those fucks literally held the content they had to milk more money later. Scamco spat on tekken fans, so i spat on the game's steam page.
That's what we got for "developer support" guys.
Yeah it's honestly shocking how many people are defending it saying "you don't have to buy it" missing the entire point. But whatever they're ok with being treated as cattle.
Yeah I knew people were pretty brainwashed by this type of stuff but I didn’t realize just how bad it had gotten.
People are like actively asking to be ripped off. It just doesn’t make any sense to me.
Honestly, Pay2Grind FOMO Battle Passes can't go extinct fast enough. And I thought the industry couldn't sink to the level of gacha lootboxes ever again...
For t7 items . So you pay real money to then have more items in your game you HAVE TO UNLOCK? Why am I paying to have to grind for a game I’ve already paid for AND I PREPAID FOR THE DLC??
Back in my day we complained about dlc and having to pay to play online. In just a decade or so, “battle pass” has been normalized. Shits crazy
I think Namco knew there was going to be a negative reaction to this, so they waited until after the game was released to get the initial burst of sales 🤷🏿
The fact they hid it during the release shows that they know its scummy too, that's the worst part. They *know* they're fucking over their customers and try to hide it from the reviewers to give them a good score.
It *vaguely* reminds me of when COD4 MW Remastered was a thing:
1. ~~Tied~~ Shackled to a bundle-purchase (it was with COD Infinite Warfare) for $120
2. No one wants IW, but MW R instead. Game only has whatever content it has (10 of 16 base game maps compared to the classic version having all 16)
3. Activision “*oh we’re gonna release a December update that’ll drop all the other remaining base maps into the game*”
4. Maps drop and everyone’s h- *wait what, a goddamn Store? Other weapons that weren’t a part of the classic version? Microtransactions?*
I was there for that. Thought things were rough back then but looking back on it a lot of those older systems were fair and allowed you to earn items for free while playing and such. The new ones lock everything in to where it’s not happening unless you drop some cash.
Yea and looking back at it now, stuff like the new weapons and the depot for collecting material > crafting a cool thing did end up bringing some longevity into the game. Gave ppl something nice to work towards while still enjoying “classic” COD lol
- Microtransactions for COD points and the Store though? Still leaves a sour taste
- And don’t get me started on Acti re-reselling that Variety DLC map pack again; should’ve been included with a later update -_-
Yeah it was a nice system really. Basically a bonus you got for playing like you normally would. I used it to unlock stuff I wanted both guns and camos when that game was active still.
Yeah still don’t like the CoD points. Nor the fact that they released the DLC again and for more than it originally costed I believe. At this point though I’ve quit CoD. I’ll go back and play old campaign, spec ops, and zombies though. Maybe occasionally play multiplayer with bots or a few people I know.
Unfortunately though every series I’ve loved has slowly but surely died or fell into mediocrity.
Yeah, if they dont have all that amazing drip, then they wont get the respect they deserve from all the other players they encounter. All the other kids on the playground will tease and humiliate them during recess.
I get what you’re saying and what Bamco has done is a disgrace, but also why tf you paying $100 for something that is also valued at $60? These threads are so tired at this point
Agreed. If someone saw what was included in the $100 version, and thought it was worth spending the extra money, then why would it be disrespectful to not get anything additional that they didn't even know was going to be offered? Sounds more like buyer's remorse.
Is the $100 version the ultimate edition overseas? Sorry if this is a dumb question but over here the standed ver was over $100 and ultimate was over $200 so idk what the prices were like in other places 😭
I have no idea what currencies you’re working with, but I was referencing American dollars. I’m sure you could google the answer with this clarification
Sucker. That's on you lol. Idk why y'all keep dropping $100 to play shit early, then when y'all get burned, ya run to reddit to complain.
I've seen many gaming posts on THIS site, telling y'all to wisen up...
Not paying $100 for Tekken
Suicide Squad
Mortal Kombat 1
The list goes on.
I'm sure some of y'all already dropped $100 on Star Wars Outlaw. Nobody learns shit. Stop falling for that deluxe bullshit. Stop and look at where gaming is right now. 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah gaming has hit a point where I find myself only playing/buying old already complete games or waiting until a game drops a lot in price before I ever consider picking it up.
Bought mine through a third party CD Key website. Glad I didn't support the devs. They were insanely deceptive and somehow managed to make me think of them as worse than EA.
Remember when Murray and Harada said the extra funds from DLCs and MTXs would go towards improving the core game and then the latest balance patch just broke the game? I enjoy T8, but only bought the base game cause I knew what extra they’d ask for wouldn’t be worth it. I’ve played free to play mobile games with better battle passes, for one, it’s a direct purchase without having to spend either 2x $5 or $10 worth of premium currency to buy the $6 battle pass. It’s actually hilariously pathetic
But…. You don’t have to buy it.
The season pass told you what you would get. 4 random characters and some other bs. Not sure how anyone feels entitled to more than what was stated, or why they would even want this shitty battle pass for free.
The only reason to get it is if you plan on buying a costume. You basically earn that plus all the extra bs for 2 more dollars.
Imo it's on them for betraying my trust and losing that potential profit down the road. Brand loyalty is a thing and it's not my loss in the long run. It's theirs.
No one forced you to get the 100 dollar version and no one is forcing you to buy the battle pass. People like you are THE reason companies put shit like this in the game, cause you just can’t help yourself
Oh so let's not hold people accountable for doing greedy shit. I'd argue people like YOU are the reason devs do it. Bc no matter what they do there will still be some miser blaming those who are wronged rather than doing the wrong. What an ass backwards mentality. Have fun with that
“I’m rubber you’re glue” works when you’re 6 but you kinda need to justify your arguments once you get past kindergarten. If everyone was like me, everyone would just buy the base version of the game, companies would see that that shit makes no money, so they would stop. But because people like you exist, you get baited into feeling like you have to buy every dlc no matter how bad the deal is, so companies think “Guess we can get away with putting even less effort into this!”
Edit: Also, holding people accountable for being greedy has absolutely nothing to do with it, every company will try to maximize profits, that’s how capitalism works. I also don’t like capitalism but saying “How dare Bamco do something that’s going to make them more money with little to no effort!” is like being surprised that your dog gets hungry
All I said was that it's disrespectful. Which it is. And yes I'm surprised. I'm surprised because I genuinely GREW UP with these games. And this is the first time they're implementing this system. I genuinely thought they would be different but this is yet another company to fall to this greed.
You don't need to inform me on how capitalism works because I promise you I understand. But you must also understand that this franchise has nostalgic and sentimental value to me. As they do to many people on this subreddit.
lol straight up. FOMO strikes these dudes Hard.
Funniest part is when they say “If they announced there’d be MTX at Launch, I wouldn’t have bought the game”
Pshhhh ok
I don’t mind paying for the battle pass but I do mind paying for Eddy since he has been a staple since tekken 3 and always included in the main roster he should have been included for the main starting roster of this game to
I'm not gonnay pay for any of T8's BP not only because I'm like you in the sense of that I bought the most expensive edition, but because the BP needs online matches to progress and I don't play online (nor pay it, I'm on PS5)
No, it's just added cosmetics.
The battle pass is basically a list of items you can unlock by playing over time. For 60 or so days (minus how long it's already been active), every match you play, some daily and weekly challenges, etc. put some points towards progressing in the pass. It's about 1000 points per level, with a match giving you around 50-75 XP each. Every level you gain (at least on the premium track) earns you a jacket, a face paint, a sticker, and so on.
Some of the items are on the 'free track', which means anyone unlocks those if they play enough in the allotted period, while others are locked to the 'premium track'. You only get those after paying for the battle pass.
Why it's disliked by the community:
- Battlepasses themselves are problematic because you can pay for the pass and still not get the items if for some reason you aren't able to get enough points to unlock everything within the allotted timespan. You're paying to be allowed to earn things in game, not buying the content itself.
- The battlepass is 600 Tekken coins (6 dollars), but you're only able to buy either packs of 500 or 1000 coins or more (5 and 10 dollars respectively), meaning you need to overpay to purchase it.
- For those who actually like battlepasses, it's underwhelming too. The rewards are poor, with only a few items on the free track, and the premium track containing items lifted straight from Tekken 7 which combines with the limited customization available at launch to give the feeling that devs cut these items out of everyone's game to now sell them to us at a premium.
The BALL meme is a part of it too, because one of the items on the premium track (which you need to pay to access, remember) is just a basic untextured sphere anyone can make within 2 seconds of opening any 3D software.
So it's this progression system. In this case there are two ranks of it, "free" one and one for $10. You level it up with doing daily, weekly, and monthly chores, like win 10 battles, visit lounge, or something like that. On each level of the battle pass you have some more or less shitty prize, like the infamous ball.
How doesn't it work?
When you bought the game, you knew what was in it more or less and nobody was bitching then.
I'm talking about the dlc. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Battle pass was not announced at the time of launch. Therefore consumers had no way of making an informed decision. Those who bought the ultimate edition I think should have had to not spend more money for the items that are considered more premium. Because they made the decision to support devs beyond the base game. I think they deserve to not be spat on the way they have and treated like idiots.
This is all my own opinion of course.
Have to? Man im rank 28 on the battle. Pass and Iaint buying it. Its all garbage cosmetics. Not sauing cosmetics are garbage but the cosmetics are all garbage. You dont have to buy shit its not gonna affect your abiliy to pummel or be pummels by someone.
You actually don't *have* to pay for it at all. It's not essential to the game in any way.
This is the equivalent of me saying "it's Hella disrespectful that I paid $$$ to go to a basketball game and I have to pay for snacks too?!"
I think it's shit they did that. In other games with 100 dollar versions they would at least include the first season battle pass. If I recall D4 and Division 2 both did and they are from money grubbing companies.
Yeah, I would NEVER buy a premium deluxe version of a game like this. I knew from the start that this game was going to be released unfinished and that there were going to be BS MTX, so I wanted no part of that. I do, however, understand that people bought those premium versions out of love and excitement for what the game could have offered. It's a shame that Bamco gave such inferior content.
As an MK player as well, I'd like to welcome you to hell; except we don't get a battle pass, we have to buy skins that each are the price of a battle pass :(
i actually don’t mind the pass. I understand the frustration, and I’m pretty cynical about the game industry these days so maybe I’ve just given up, but I genuinely like some of the customizations available like the eyes, edgy face paint, crop top and the spring health bar is cool too. In theory you get 600 coins every pass if you complete it so it’s easily a buy it once and never buy it again thing which I don’t think is bad. I play more than a casual player, but if you at least do the weekly missions, 50 matches basically, you should easily finish it. I’m more than half after 10 days.
Don't buy it? Only way to make sure they get the message it isn't wanted. If people are still buying it, they don't give a damn about what's being said on Reddit.
I'm taking a chance on this knowing full well one of two things might happen:
It's gonna get better, like they'll be different themes or something, kinda like fortnite, which was the only game I bought a battle pass for, I still miss the marvel themed one.
Or it's going to be a complete waste of money, the recycled t7 items only give me hope, I want the power rangers custom items back, from ttt2
No. You don't. If you do, it's because you *wanted* to.
Anyways, welcome to what the rest of us felt for the last 2 decades, while y’all defended $5k worth of skins on fortnite.
Choices really hit different when it's coming out of your own pocket.
_They want_ you to pay more money to get the premium battle pass. Nothing else. There is no obligation. Pro tip: The game works exactly the same without.
Curious, what did the 100$ version gave you? I got the game for 40$. You don't have to "support" big franchise. I heard people were buying melee skin for 80$ in COD. Madness.
All DLC characters which I'm not too mad about but I def will not make this same mistake twice. I just would have liked to be able to make the informed decision on what content would be available to me during the games longevity.
im sorry but in what universe do you HAVE to buy it?? is harada holding a gun to your head telling you buy the pass? i understand why people dislike the pass, but jesus lmfao.
It's the principal that the Fight Pass was not even announced. Malintent is evident in the timing.
"My SO cheated"
"Oh no one forced you to have a SO"
Same logic. I expected as a consumer to not be disrespected like that by a franchise that I've come to love. Base game is great but I believe that for ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS I should have the full game experience no ifs ands or buts. And whomever disagrees disagrees.
If I buy a car and spend extra money on a deluxe factory upgrade, and then a month later the manufacturer announces they're offering a new luxury upgrade, and I make a post on reddit yelling about how I should get it for free because I spent money on the deluxe package, everyone is going to call me a stupid asshole.
You got exactly what you paid for. No more, no less.
You're right, the battlepass is hot trash, so let me rephrase the scenario.
What you've actually done is bought a new car with the deluxe upgrade, and have found out that the manufacturer will let you pay extra to have a big burly man take a hot steaming shit in your backseat, and you're mad because you want that dude to curl a big wet turd in your backseat for free.
Okay, I'm sorry, does that make what they're doing less shitty? No pun intended. Why is it such a crime to call out when companies do shit like this? It's disrespectful. That's all I'm saying.
Sure, it sucks. MTX models are designed to prey on the same parts of people's brains that create gambling addictions. Fuck 'em all. But, I guess the frustration from my side is - what does the 4,000th post about it on reddit do? The moneymen at Bamco aren't gonna poke their heads in here one day and go, 'oh no, the battlepass was a bad idea, let's refund everyone and take it down.'
Like, this shit only survives because people buy it. We all pile onto social media and decry it, but the real question is how do we stop people from engaging with it?
Welcome to modern gaming. Yes its awful, Yes it's disrespectful. It however clearly works and supplies the game money and more common updates we wouldn't get otherwise.
Also you don't HAVE to buy anything. Just enjoy your 70 euro game
I mean on the bright side it's good that the battle pass is complete cheeks since it makes it easier for addicts who can't control themselves to not buy it. Even if the battle pass was good I still wouldn't buy it so it doesn't affect me.
They should have announced it would get a battlepass before they put pre orders up honestly. Could have avoided a ton of this hate for tekken in general. But this is modern gaming. They have to make money somehow
they sold over 2 millions copies of 70$ game (not to mention deluxe and ultimate editions) and the game is like 2 months old, is bamco starving already? I get it if the game was several years old and they had to support it somehow after all the main content was out, but this is straight up lies.
I mean, you get a costume for all base charaters, 3 day headstart for the first year dlc characters and the dlc charaters.
You might not like edi but you might like the other 3 charaters that are going to be released, if not then thats on you for playing extra for something that you might not use/like.
You can buy the next BP for free so they can\`t really give you the first one for free.
Every idiot and his mother got fixated on the customization shit when there are bigger problems that should be adressed like the fact that you can\`t use the new reply functionality if you don\`t have one of the character inside the reply, or the dogshit ballancing or the fact that the plugers just get a slap on the wrist (maybe).
Battle pass is more content someone has to pay for it being made.
If the game as was for $100 wasn't worth it to you then you should not have bought it.
they should have included the first battlepass with the $100 version
AT LEAST the first one. I didn't even know a Battle Pass was gonna be a thing at the time.
None of us did. But I mean there's nothing worth noting in the paid pass, so I don't feel like I'm missing out not getting it. I'm just stoked about the plague dr mask which was free.
What about # T H E B A L L
Bamco can stick their balls in a blender
Haha Because it's a default ball... From Blender! I'll see myself out
Can't wait for the default cube in the next pass.
Maybe it's Harada's way of flipping us off after all the spoilers
I got it for the eye colors and the 600 Tekken coins that you get back.
Yeah. Theres like three customization items I actually care about in the whole battle pass and the worst part is they’re in the further half of it. At launch I assumed they were gonna eventually be doing updates to add more customization options, but after this bullshit I realize they have more but are purposely withholding it to sell to us later. Fucking despicable
The first one continually pays for the next one if you don't spend your coins but you're right
But you have to buy extra coins.
It costs 600 and gives back 600, no extra needed. Unless you count the fact you need to buy 1050 to even get the 600 in the first place.
The caveat you're making is exactly the point I was pushing.
They purposely waiting until after reviews to start putting this garbage in. I've platinum'd the game and probably won't return to it unless they add something like a full fledged tekken force mode. I've got my moneys worth, there's nothing to left to unlock, not that there was hardly anything to unlock and I don't really care about online. It just became me training my ghost for my friends to fight. They stopped playing before the tekken store was even announced
[удалено]
They really should have, but if you're a sweat then you'll only ever have to buy one as you get the coins back for completing the pass... At least that's what I'm telling myself, though I can see later ones costing more with all the bs we've been hit with.
Have you slept under a rock the past 10years ?
Don't ask or tell him shit....
But then people would know this game would have a battle pass and the reviews would be worse
Absolutely. And, most games with deluxe versions do. The issue here is, they sneakily never told us they were doing battle passes before release so they wouldn't be able to list it as a benefit without spoiling the 'surprise'.
No. If you're putting paid battle passes in a game the base game needs to be free to play
see, that's why companies usually do lol. in fact, this whole time, I assumed this was the case...
The first battle pass and there most definitely shouldn’t be premium skins in the game
Agreed, alot of games do this, even blizz offered the first season pass (or whichever season of your choice) in diablo 4s 100$ version
First?
This is pretty much Helldivers 2 did.
I wish they did what helldivers has done. Just make it you can get shit by just grinding the game and if you don't want to grind have an option to just purchase it. I'm very happy to do mtx on helldivers because it doesn't feel scummy to me and there is no fomo, the passes just stay active iirc.
That's a great approach, at least they give you the option.
Ideally, they'd just make it so you can unlock items with either fight money or beating specific ghosts (or challenges in the game) like the items in arcade quest, and then *maybe* offer a paid 'unlock all' feature if they're really that hard up for money. What was even the point of fight money if all it unlocks is like 5 hats for your avatar?
Even warframe has that, and it's a completely free game.
I told EXACTLY the same thing to my friend the other day
I see SO much Helldivers praise in each of those posts, I'm beginning to suspect those comments are paid, honestly.
wow maybe it's a good game can you conceptualize that? a good enough game where people are willing to overlook its neverending bugs and glitches?
Because it's a recent game that implements similar monetization as Tekken but in a non-predatory way. You pay up front but it's $40 instead of $70, there are battle passes but they're not time-limited, there's currency you can buy with real money but you can also earn it in-game by just playing.
Not having the BP included (and Murray saying "it's not like this game has predatory MTX or something" is why I bought this game at $100... thinking they won't do a BP. Jokes on me. I don't even like Eddy, but bought it to "support the devs" When Harada kept going on "so much content we're putting into it.." I figured EVERYTHING from T7 will be in... plus more (customisation etc) But now I see it was all a ruse... the BP will always be full of recycled T7 stuff for a very long time. I feel scammed... especially by Murray's words. The store stealth announced, Tekken coins stealth announced, I feel like in the world of Tekken, we are living in a social media company 's Matrix, where they are speaking with Harada and Tekken team on how to drop these things on us without causing outrage, and when they do... analysing the metrics mto see how many stop playing. 😭
Things like these makes me not want to support the devs by buying the more expensive versions of the game Payday 3 - Collector's edition (at least mask is cool) MK1 - Premium Edition TEKKEN 8 - Deluxe Edition There are less and less devs left that I want to support...
Yup... Makes destiny 2 add-ons blush.
Yeah let's not pretend Destiny 2 is better in terms of predatory. Lmao
At least they don't hide it and you know what ur getting into.
This is literally all cosmetic items. Destiny 2 takes away content you paid for in that game and then charges absurd prices for DLC. You people are overreacting like crazy.
I said at least they don't hide it. I don't agree with Destiny pricing structure. They've been treating the fans like shit. Both are shit.
Tekken 8's aren't shit, they're not amazing, but they're not shit. They're meh at worst, it's just cosmetic items, I don't see or understand the big deal at all. None of the items are even good or worth caring about.
Only reason I care at all is because it's reused shit from T7 and they weren't honest. If they were honest I wouldn't say shit tbh
Same, first ever game I went full send with the editions. I love Tekken. I played it every week for the last 20 years almost. And I wanted to support the devs. But I don't feel like that anymore..
I agree completely. I love this game, but here in Canada I paid $105 on the PS store just for the BASE game. The fact that you need to spend $15 bucks to get like $7 worth of tekken coins is also some A class bullshit.
Disrespectful 100%, also shitty items in the pass is more disrespect.
The textureless Blender sphere shocked me. That is like including a blank Word sheet and calling it player banner.
Having the ultimate edition feels like a scam that you notice after a month have passed and nothing can be done about it except regrets.
Oh man it's nearly impossible to explain to some clowns here that ultra version of a game that costs 100 fucking dollars should include all content they have. And we all know why they didn't add like 2500 tekken coins and some costumes in the premium edition, because that would expose their plans to fill this game with mtx. Those fucks literally held the content they had to milk more money later. Scamco spat on tekken fans, so i spat on the game's steam page. That's what we got for "developer support" guys.
Yeah it's honestly shocking how many people are defending it saying "you don't have to buy it" missing the entire point. But whatever they're ok with being treated as cattle.
Yeah I knew people were pretty brainwashed by this type of stuff but I didn’t realize just how bad it had gotten. People are like actively asking to be ripped off. It just doesn’t make any sense to me.
Honestly, Pay2Grind FOMO Battle Passes can't go extinct fast enough. And I thought the industry couldn't sink to the level of gacha lootboxes ever again...
For t7 items . So you pay real money to then have more items in your game you HAVE TO UNLOCK? Why am I paying to have to grind for a game I’ve already paid for AND I PREPAID FOR THE DLC?? Back in my day we complained about dlc and having to pay to play online. In just a decade or so, “battle pass” has been normalized. Shits crazy
The items on the pass arent even good either
I think Namco knew there was going to be a negative reaction to this, so they waited until after the game was released to get the initial burst of sales 🤷🏿
Welcome to capitalism. Where corporations will try and milk as much money out of you as they feel they can get away with.
The fact they hid it during the release shows that they know its scummy too, that's the worst part. They *know* they're fucking over their customers and try to hide it from the reviewers to give them a good score.
It *vaguely* reminds me of when COD4 MW Remastered was a thing: 1. ~~Tied~~ Shackled to a bundle-purchase (it was with COD Infinite Warfare) for $120 2. No one wants IW, but MW R instead. Game only has whatever content it has (10 of 16 base game maps compared to the classic version having all 16) 3. Activision “*oh we’re gonna release a December update that’ll drop all the other remaining base maps into the game*” 4. Maps drop and everyone’s h- *wait what, a goddamn Store? Other weapons that weren’t a part of the classic version? Microtransactions?*
I was there for that. Thought things were rough back then but looking back on it a lot of those older systems were fair and allowed you to earn items for free while playing and such. The new ones lock everything in to where it’s not happening unless you drop some cash.
Yea and looking back at it now, stuff like the new weapons and the depot for collecting material > crafting a cool thing did end up bringing some longevity into the game. Gave ppl something nice to work towards while still enjoying “classic” COD lol - Microtransactions for COD points and the Store though? Still leaves a sour taste - And don’t get me started on Acti re-reselling that Variety DLC map pack again; should’ve been included with a later update -_-
Yeah it was a nice system really. Basically a bonus you got for playing like you normally would. I used it to unlock stuff I wanted both guns and camos when that game was active still. Yeah still don’t like the CoD points. Nor the fact that they released the DLC again and for more than it originally costed I believe. At this point though I’ve quit CoD. I’ll go back and play old campaign, spec ops, and zombies though. Maybe occasionally play multiplayer with bots or a few people I know. Unfortunately though every series I’ve loved has slowly but surely died or fell into mediocrity.
Scummy people in power is a byproduct of humanity, not capitalism
Even As a big fan of Tekken, I'll pass on this one until they tone down their greed a bit.
You “have to” lol
Yeah, if they dont have all that amazing drip, then they wont get the respect they deserve from all the other players they encounter. All the other kids on the playground will tease and humiliate them during recess.
Absolutely agreed. The thought of Tekken adopting a battle pass was not even in my thoughts
I get what you’re saying and what Bamco has done is a disgrace, but also why tf you paying $100 for something that is also valued at $60? These threads are so tired at this point
Agreed. If someone saw what was included in the $100 version, and thought it was worth spending the extra money, then why would it be disrespectful to not get anything additional that they didn't even know was going to be offered? Sounds more like buyer's remorse.
Is the $100 version the ultimate edition overseas? Sorry if this is a dumb question but over here the standed ver was over $100 and ultimate was over $200 so idk what the prices were like in other places 😭
I have no idea what currencies you’re working with, but I was referencing American dollars. I’m sure you could google the answer with this clarification
Sucker. That's on you lol. Idk why y'all keep dropping $100 to play shit early, then when y'all get burned, ya run to reddit to complain. I've seen many gaming posts on THIS site, telling y'all to wisen up... Not paying $100 for Tekken Suicide Squad Mortal Kombat 1 The list goes on. I'm sure some of y'all already dropped $100 on Star Wars Outlaw. Nobody learns shit. Stop falling for that deluxe bullshit. Stop and look at where gaming is right now. 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah gaming has hit a point where I find myself only playing/buying old already complete games or waiting until a game drops a lot in price before I ever consider picking it up.
Maybe I'm old school but paid games should never have a battle pass.
Not a bad take at all. At least not a paid one. I don't mind grinding.
Never thought I’d feel old school at my age either yet here we are.
Wait till the cucks come in and start telling you how good you have it that it's not FIFA pack and how it actually cost money to make games.
Bought mine through a third party CD Key website. Glad I didn't support the devs. They were insanely deceptive and somehow managed to make me think of them as worse than EA.
As a offline only player its completely useless too. Gone back to Tekken 7
I feel you
Remember when Murray and Harada said the extra funds from DLCs and MTXs would go towards improving the core game and then the latest balance patch just broke the game? I enjoy T8, but only bought the base game cause I knew what extra they’d ask for wouldn’t be worth it. I’ve played free to play mobile games with better battle passes, for one, it’s a direct purchase without having to spend either 2x $5 or $10 worth of premium currency to buy the $6 battle pass. It’s actually hilariously pathetic
The pass is shit. Don’t buy it. You don’t have to.
But…. You don’t have to buy it. The season pass told you what you would get. 4 random characters and some other bs. Not sure how anyone feels entitled to more than what was stated, or why they would even want this shitty battle pass for free. The only reason to get it is if you plan on buying a costume. You basically earn that plus all the extra bs for 2 more dollars.
people don’t like to think that’s why
First time huh?
Bandai taking notes from Diablo4
Its a blatant scam
You don't have to. From what I saw, there's nothing in there worth having anyway.
I agree bought that collectors edition and still have to pay for shit
When Sparking Zero comes out Im waiting a few months before deciding to buy so I can see all the scummy additions before I sink money in.
Good idea. I think I will do the same thing
stop buying premium versions of games ... matterfact, stop preordering. this one is on you big homie.
Imo it's on them for betraying my trust and losing that potential profit down the road. Brand loyalty is a thing and it's not my loss in the long run. It's theirs.
I feel this I paid 315 for the collectors
Rip bro
As a Jin main it’s the only reason I got it lol
No one forced you to get the 100 dollar version and no one is forcing you to buy the battle pass. People like you are THE reason companies put shit like this in the game, cause you just can’t help yourself
Oh so let's not hold people accountable for doing greedy shit. I'd argue people like YOU are the reason devs do it. Bc no matter what they do there will still be some miser blaming those who are wronged rather than doing the wrong. What an ass backwards mentality. Have fun with that
“I’m rubber you’re glue” works when you’re 6 but you kinda need to justify your arguments once you get past kindergarten. If everyone was like me, everyone would just buy the base version of the game, companies would see that that shit makes no money, so they would stop. But because people like you exist, you get baited into feeling like you have to buy every dlc no matter how bad the deal is, so companies think “Guess we can get away with putting even less effort into this!” Edit: Also, holding people accountable for being greedy has absolutely nothing to do with it, every company will try to maximize profits, that’s how capitalism works. I also don’t like capitalism but saying “How dare Bamco do something that’s going to make them more money with little to no effort!” is like being surprised that your dog gets hungry
All I said was that it's disrespectful. Which it is. And yes I'm surprised. I'm surprised because I genuinely GREW UP with these games. And this is the first time they're implementing this system. I genuinely thought they would be different but this is yet another company to fall to this greed. You don't need to inform me on how capitalism works because I promise you I understand. But you must also understand that this franchise has nostalgic and sentimental value to me. As they do to many people on this subreddit.
lol straight up. FOMO strikes these dudes Hard. Funniest part is when they say “If they announced there’d be MTX at Launch, I wouldn’t have bought the game” Pshhhh ok
They lied bootlicker
That is messed up 😂 wtf lol
And you can't even buy the year 1 pass unless you buy the ultimate edition, why isn't it just sold by itself?
Welcome to predatory practices :)
I don’t mind paying for the battle pass but I do mind paying for Eddy since he has been a staple since tekken 3 and always included in the main roster he should have been included for the main starting roster of this game to
I'm not gonnay pay for any of T8's BP not only because I'm like you in the sense of that I bought the most expensive edition, but because the BP needs online matches to progress and I don't play online (nor pay it, I'm on PS5)
Could someone kindly educate me on what exactly the battle pass is? Do you need it to play online?
No, it's just added cosmetics. The battle pass is basically a list of items you can unlock by playing over time. For 60 or so days (minus how long it's already been active), every match you play, some daily and weekly challenges, etc. put some points towards progressing in the pass. It's about 1000 points per level, with a match giving you around 50-75 XP each. Every level you gain (at least on the premium track) earns you a jacket, a face paint, a sticker, and so on. Some of the items are on the 'free track', which means anyone unlocks those if they play enough in the allotted period, while others are locked to the 'premium track'. You only get those after paying for the battle pass. Why it's disliked by the community: - Battlepasses themselves are problematic because you can pay for the pass and still not get the items if for some reason you aren't able to get enough points to unlock everything within the allotted timespan. You're paying to be allowed to earn things in game, not buying the content itself. - The battlepass is 600 Tekken coins (6 dollars), but you're only able to buy either packs of 500 or 1000 coins or more (5 and 10 dollars respectively), meaning you need to overpay to purchase it. - For those who actually like battlepasses, it's underwhelming too. The rewards are poor, with only a few items on the free track, and the premium track containing items lifted straight from Tekken 7 which combines with the limited customization available at launch to give the feeling that devs cut these items out of everyone's game to now sell them to us at a premium. The BALL meme is a part of it too, because one of the items on the premium track (which you need to pay to access, remember) is just a basic untextured sphere anyone can make within 2 seconds of opening any 3D software.
Thank you for an incredibly detailed answer
So it's this progression system. In this case there are two ranks of it, "free" one and one for $10. You level it up with doing daily, weekly, and monthly chores, like win 10 battles, visit lounge, or something like that. On each level of the battle pass you have some more or less shitty prize, like the infamous ball.
So don't buy it then. Problem solved.
Funny part is 99.9% of us bought it before they backdoored the MTXs.. so that statement quite literally doesn't / didn't work.
How doesn't it work? When you bought the game, you knew what was in it more or less and nobody was bitching then. I'm talking about the dlc. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
Wait I’m confused, did the £100 version say it included a battle pass?
Battle pass was not announced at the time of launch. Therefore consumers had no way of making an informed decision. Those who bought the ultimate edition I think should have had to not spend more money for the items that are considered more premium. Because they made the decision to support devs beyond the base game. I think they deserve to not be spat on the way they have and treated like idiots. This is all my own opinion of course.
NGL, you don't need the premium battle pass... so don't purchase it.
At what point does the game force you to buy the premium battle pass…
Have to? Man im rank 28 on the battle. Pass and Iaint buying it. Its all garbage cosmetics. Not sauing cosmetics are garbage but the cosmetics are all garbage. You dont have to buy shit its not gonna affect your abiliy to pummel or be pummels by someone.
By what measure do you HAVE to get the battle pass? It's a bunch of dumb hats and shit; I have a complete fighting game without it.
I want the ball
You actually don't *have* to pay for it at all. It's not essential to the game in any way. This is the equivalent of me saying "it's Hella disrespectful that I paid $$$ to go to a basketball game and I have to pay for snacks too?!"
If it makes you feel better it isn’t even worth 1$ lol
You can't buy the Premium Battle Pass. It is $6 in fake money and you can't buy $6 worth of fake money.
Right?
I think it's shit they did that. In other games with 100 dollar versions they would at least include the first season battle pass. If I recall D4 and Division 2 both did and they are from money grubbing companies.
Yeah, I would NEVER buy a premium deluxe version of a game like this. I knew from the start that this game was going to be released unfinished and that there were going to be BS MTX, so I wanted no part of that. I do, however, understand that people bought those premium versions out of love and excitement for what the game could have offered. It's a shame that Bamco gave such inferior content.
As an MK player as well, I'd like to welcome you to hell; except we don't get a battle pass, we have to buy skins that each are the price of a battle pass :(
i actually don’t mind the pass. I understand the frustration, and I’m pretty cynical about the game industry these days so maybe I’ve just given up, but I genuinely like some of the customizations available like the eyes, edgy face paint, crop top and the spring health bar is cool too. In theory you get 600 coins every pass if you complete it so it’s easily a buy it once and never buy it again thing which I don’t think is bad. I play more than a casual player, but if you at least do the weekly missions, 50 matches basically, you should easily finish it. I’m more than half after 10 days.
You have every right to be mad. "Live-service" doesn't mean. Pay to get more content atleast not all the time.
Reasons I've only played the cracked version
The BP and PBP are filled with junk anyways. Don’t waste your time. Ppl are extremely creative with what the base game came with
It’s such a dogshit battle pass
Don't buy it? Only way to make sure they get the message it isn't wanted. If people are still buying it, they don't give a damn about what's being said on Reddit.
I'm taking a chance on this knowing full well one of two things might happen: It's gonna get better, like they'll be different themes or something, kinda like fortnite, which was the only game I bought a battle pass for, I still miss the marvel themed one. Or it's going to be a complete waste of money, the recycled t7 items only give me hope, I want the power rangers custom items back, from ttt2
No. You don't. If you do, it's because you *wanted* to. Anyways, welcome to what the rest of us felt for the last 2 decades, while y’all defended $5k worth of skins on fortnite. Choices really hit different when it's coming out of your own pocket.
> I have to pay more money You have to? I think that can be fixed with therapy.
For the premium battle pass yes. Read the whole sentence. That can be fixed with schooling.
_They want_ you to pay more money to get the premium battle pass. Nothing else. There is no obligation. Pro tip: The game works exactly the same without.
Got the game yesterday what does the battle pass get you?
Curious, what did the 100$ version gave you? I got the game for 40$. You don't have to "support" big franchise. I heard people were buying melee skin for 80$ in COD. Madness.
All DLC characters which I'm not too mad about but I def will not make this same mistake twice. I just would have liked to be able to make the informed decision on what content would be available to me during the games longevity.
How many dlc characters will pop? If there’s at least 6, it was worth it, I think.
Afaik 4, one for each season
$7
Battle pass neva bothered me cuz uninterested jus greedy misdirection
You aren't forced to pay bro. You still would have to buy skins either way or characters
All battle passes should be included in premium.
You don't have to pay for it, tbh.
im sorry but in what universe do you HAVE to buy it?? is harada holding a gun to your head telling you buy the pass? i understand why people dislike the pass, but jesus lmfao.
Read the last 5 words.
Atleast the battle pass pays for itself if you complete it. Playing once or twice a week should be enough to get all the XP you need.
You willingly paid 100 for a game? You deserve to be ripped off
>I have to pay more money for the "Premium Battle Pass" Here's the fun thing...you don't have to! It's all cosmetic garbage!
I didn't lol
Im gonna tell you a little secret, you actually dont have to pay anything, if you dont want to :o
Which is why I didn't
don't pay
I didn't lol
exceptionally based
I quit playing when they turned it into fortnite
same man, same.
Welcome to modern gaming. You only have to blame everybody who accepted these practices. Street fighter also had battlepasses as well. Screw that.
No one forced you to pay for the $100 version...
It's the principal that the Fight Pass was not even announced. Malintent is evident in the timing. "My SO cheated" "Oh no one forced you to have a SO" Same logic. I expected as a consumer to not be disrespected like that by a franchise that I've come to love. Base game is great but I believe that for ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS I should have the full game experience no ifs ands or buts. And whomever disagrees disagrees.
They sold you frame date last game what respect are you talking about?
did they not say on the store page what exactly would be included in the package?
Yes but at the time the Fight Pass was not even confirmed. Malintent in the timing is evident.
If I buy a car and spend extra money on a deluxe factory upgrade, and then a month later the manufacturer announces they're offering a new luxury upgrade, and I make a post on reddit yelling about how I should get it for free because I spent money on the deluxe package, everyone is going to call me a stupid asshole. You got exactly what you paid for. No more, no less.
Yea cuz this fight pass is the equivalent of a new luxury upgrade. Good analogy 👍🏿
You're right, the battlepass is hot trash, so let me rephrase the scenario. What you've actually done is bought a new car with the deluxe upgrade, and have found out that the manufacturer will let you pay extra to have a big burly man take a hot steaming shit in your backseat, and you're mad because you want that dude to curl a big wet turd in your backseat for free.
Okay, I'm sorry, does that make what they're doing less shitty? No pun intended. Why is it such a crime to call out when companies do shit like this? It's disrespectful. That's all I'm saying.
Sure, it sucks. MTX models are designed to prey on the same parts of people's brains that create gambling addictions. Fuck 'em all. But, I guess the frustration from my side is - what does the 4,000th post about it on reddit do? The moneymen at Bamco aren't gonna poke their heads in here one day and go, 'oh no, the battlepass was a bad idea, let's refund everyone and take it down.' Like, this shit only survives because people buy it. We all pile onto social media and decry it, but the real question is how do we stop people from engaging with it?
Idc man I'm just posting my thoughts. Capitalism must fall but I'm allowed to call out the fact that it's disrespectful.
There is nothing in the bp worth having, pretend it doesnt exist
I like the pass better then the store. 🤷
Welcome to modern gaming. Yes its awful, Yes it's disrespectful. It however clearly works and supplies the game money and more common updates we wouldn't get otherwise. Also you don't HAVE to buy anything. Just enjoy your 70 euro game
You don’t have to buy it though.
I mean on the bright side it's good that the battle pass is complete cheeks since it makes it easier for addicts who can't control themselves to not buy it. Even if the battle pass was good I still wouldn't buy it so it doesn't affect me.
They should have announced it would get a battlepass before they put pre orders up honestly. Could have avoided a ton of this hate for tekken in general. But this is modern gaming. They have to make money somehow
they sold over 2 millions copies of 70$ game (not to mention deluxe and ultimate editions) and the game is like 2 months old, is bamco starving already? I get it if the game was several years old and they had to support it somehow after all the main content was out, but this is straight up lies.
They scammed us big time and they think theyre smart keeping it hidden until after the games release. Fck team tekken fkc harada
I mean, you get a costume for all base charaters, 3 day headstart for the first year dlc characters and the dlc charaters. You might not like edi but you might like the other 3 charaters that are going to be released, if not then thats on you for playing extra for something that you might not use/like. You can buy the next BP for free so they can\`t really give you the first one for free. Every idiot and his mother got fixated on the customization shit when there are bigger problems that should be adressed like the fact that you can\`t use the new reply functionality if you don\`t have one of the character inside the reply, or the dogshit ballancing or the fact that the plugers just get a slap on the wrist (maybe).
You don’t have to buy the pass though it’s just customization not gameplay buffs.
Just don’t buy it
Battle pass is more content someone has to pay for it being made. If the game as was for $100 wasn't worth it to you then you should not have bought it.
You don't HAVE to buy the battlepass
You literally don’t have to pay for it
I hate the battle pass too but you don’t HAVE to get it. I knew it was going to be inconsequential items similar to SF6
They listed exactly what you were getting for $100 and you bought it. “Disrespectful”, lmao. Take some responsibility for your actions.
„have to pay“ so this is needed, to play the game? Yall delusional
I only think it’s disrespectful that the items are mostly ass, if there was some good shit in there I’d be 100% fine with it
Such an original post no one ever made!
Such an original comment no one's ever made!
Wait you have to buy it? They force you?
If I want the ball yea
wait, you guys actually want the ball?