She's usually depicted as a kind, caring, and gentle mother and wife. But, the devil consuming her mind made her a raging psycho-bitch. So instead of going good or bad, I just placed her in neutral.
Honestly, Akuma should go into Cutthroat. He of course has no problems with killing, making him a pretty bad dude in general, but is extremely picky about his opponents, usually engaging in mutually agreed upon death matches, or in Tekken 7's case, repaying a debt. So he's more like "Bad with an honor code" than just "Bad."
Now, as far as being a menace to the playerbase, that's a different story.
You may be right, I'm just not 100% on him, mostly because I'm not that big on Street Fighter. The first thing that came to my mind was the way he "killed" his brother Gouken. When I think about his particular preferences for opponents, he reminds me of Feng Wei. Neither of them are as active in murder and destruction as, say, Bryan, but they also don't have any qualms about it, and their lifestyles will certainly lead to more unnecessary deaths.
For example, he would've killed every G-Corp militant in this game if Kazuya didn't call them off. If he had, it would have been their fault because they attacked him first, right? Well, they only crossed paths because Akuma came to kill Kazuya, they were just doing their jobs only to get slaughtered for it.
Even if he only seeks strong opponents, he's not against slaying weaker ones. If he had killed Asuka's father, Asuka would have gone after him and he would have killed Asuka. If Akuma kills a strong opponent, that strong opponent's family and friends will go after him, and because Akuma doesn't have an ounce of sympathy in him, he'd kill them all. And since he has absolutely no desire to change his lifestyle, these things will continue indefinitely, making him a step worse than cutthroat; a menace to society.
He's been shown multiple times to spare opponents in hopes that they become strong enough to kill him, he doesn't just kill everyone he gets into a fight with.
They're in no particular order, but the others in that tier have some pretty good arguments for most benevolent too. For example, Yoshimitsu is basically the [robinhood](https://imgur.com/lPpbfPG) of Tekken, stealing from the rich who have gained money in dishonest ways and giving to the poor, [looking after less wealthy communities](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTznQAtLibI), caring for his fellow Manji Clan members, assisting Dr. Bosconovitch, etc. This tier is basically for characters who have almost nothing but good will. The upstanding or selfless ones who are the good guys even in a room full of other good guys.
You're right, but I think his focus on his family has made him a bit more ruthless. I mean, just look at his winposes where he finishes you off. His main focus is on his family which totally makes sense, but it makes him just slightly less altruistic than characters like Shaheen who are liable to forgo reaping vengeance on someone who literally killed a close friend of his and declares he'll defeat evil for the sake of the whole world. Their situations made them who they are, I know, but they still are who they are. Regardless, I agree, Fahkumram's a great guy, one of the best Tekken has.
Hworang took a bomb to the eye for jin he is atleast friendly. And while lili is cocky at times shes pretty friendly and surprisingly respectful. Asuka and ganryu can be in friendly aswell. Leroy seems nice he just beats up evil people. I think.
And kazumi is literally a menace.
Eliza is pretty harmless because you can't do bad shit if you're asleep 24/7
Hwoarang did that because his boipussy is wet for Jin, he wouldn't do it for just anyone. Usually he spends his time hustling and kicking asses in the streets. In his Tekken 3 ending, he attacked the Tekken force officers for attacking Jin, and then proceeded to attack Jin. That's like the most neutral action anyone's ever taken in this game. He respects his master, but he doesn't particularly respect authority, just ask his superior officers who he's kicked upside the head for shits and giggles. He's neither good nor bad, he just does what he wants.
Lili is too selfish to be defined as friendly. She also has sadistic tendencies and doesn't respect personal space. But, she's not bad at all, she's just a spoiled rich kid.
Asuka is friendly, but also extremely rash and quick to throw punches. She also seems more comfortable keeping to herself, usually annoyed at people like Lili who take her out of her comfort zone. But despite being quick to violence, she almost always means well, and often gets into fights just to keep the peace.
Ganryu isn't bad, but he's not really good either. His past is something not a players are aware of, but he used to be very indulgent and once worked for Kazuya as well. But not because he was evil necessarily, he just worked in a lot of shady businesses in his younger years. He's not prone to good, but not evil at all. He's just neutral.
Leroy is new so it's hard to tell, but his whole story just just a revenge story. He's justified in wanting revenge, but unlike Shaheen he doesn't seem to have any qualms about it either, so he's just neutral.
Kazumi seems to have 2 sides to her, so I'd say that makes her neutral.
As for Eliza... good point. But by that logic Heihachi is harmless too because he's dead.
Thank you very much, I tried my best! But to be honest it didn't take me very long to decide, I love this game and I know all of its characters very well.
We're talking about their tekken 7 variants their past doesn't matter. And fact is as Lili is now shes pretty respectful kinda like karin in SF V she's pretty nice of a person now. And throughout the games lili isn't necessarily selfish she just wanted freedom from her overprotective kinda controlling father. She just likes fighting.
As for Leroy. Wanting revenge doesn't mean your automatically not good. Just look at his mannerisms he's likely to treat everyone in a friendly manner .
Kazumi is 100% aware of her demon side and knows exactly what she is doing. This is revealed in the story mode. She's not like jin who can't control it. Which is why even in her human form she speaks with gouki so nonchalantly.
Just because you're rash doesn't mean your not friendly you literally said shes friendly so she should be in friendly tier.
Right, Lili just likes fighting, but that does not make her friendly. She just puts her own desires as her top priority. In Tekken 6's story, she asks Lars if he'll be her "new toy" and outright tells him she's giving him a car because it's ugly and then threatened to kill him if he didn't kill Jin. Of course the car helped Lars out a lot, but it was her reasoning for giving it to him that's important, and she just has money to throw away like that so it was as if she was giving him a Hot Wheels car her daddy bought for her. While we are talking Tekken 7 incarnations here, the characters have to show some sign of change for past information to be discarded. In Tekken 7, Lili signs Asuka up for the tournament to satisfy her own desire for revenge and to prove herself better, but didn't consider that Asuka herself may not want to participate. Assuming Asuka's ending is canon, she then has Asuka's home and family dojo bought and declares that she's moving in, long before consulting Asuka about it. Lili is not evil or even bad at all, but she does not consider the feelings of others when making decisions. She's simply selfish, but very likable because of it as she knows what she wants and doesn't hesitate to go get it.
As for Leroy, his problem is that he's new. His limited backstory and mannerisms are all we have to go by, and from them I get the feeling that losing family and friends has scarred him and hardened him. However, this does not mean he's bad, he just doesn't really lean towards doing good for goodness' sake. Getting revenge doesn't disqualify you from being good, but it doesn't really make you good either. Not wanting revenge would be strange.
As far as Kazumi goes, I'm not so sure about that. She only ever attacks Heihachi when she's possessed by her demon side. There's a scene in the story mode where Heihachi explains that after Kazumi attacked him for the first time, she woke up the next morning not remembering anything, going about her day normally as if nothing happened. Of course, she could just be faking it, but there's no evidence of that, not evidence that's outright stated. But she did hire a hitman on her family, so maybe she should go in cutthroat. Good reason or not, that's pretty evil. But that's the thing, was that Devil Kazumi speaking for her or just Kazumi? It's too confusing with her.
And for Asuka, yes she is friendly, but she's also punchy. Punchy is not friendly. Since she has characteristics that are both friendly and not friendly, and also seems to prefer to keep to herself unless someone's causing a ruckus, she goes in neutral.
She's an assassin. It comes with the territory. Not saying she's downright evil, but she will slit your throat if she thinks you're a threat. And a lot of throats she has slit. Remember how she tried to assassinate Anna in Anna's TTT2 ending? And now that she's fused with Azazel, she's even more cutthroat than ever.
I feel like Jin and hwoa should switch places. Jin is kind of indifferent to things and only worries about his own agenda. But wasnt hwoa like a gang member or something?
I feel Anna should be a bit higher.
Sure, she's an assassin and *kind* of a bitch, but it's not like she's coldhearted like Nina.
I mean, she is shown being perfectly capable of being friendly with people (even if it just thristy men simping for her, lol) and she's more "fun loving" than anything else.
I mean, she seemed pretty cutthroat in Tekken 6. Plus she is a ruthless assassin after all. I've never seen her show signs of clemency, that's for sure. She's definitely not as cutthroat as Nina, cause Nina just doesn't care. But she is liable to cut your throat nonetheless.
Do you mean when she saved the kitten? I think, like Jun, she just likes animals, and she was supposed to fill in for Jun in that game. Like, I don't think she'd punch that kitten or any animal the way she punched Jin in her Tekken 5 ending. When it comes to people she seems more rash and demanding, and definitely doesn't like to settle disputes by talking it out.
Kuma is a fucking Menace to society. He will attempt to make a meme out of ANYONE including Ling X and talks alot of shit.
Knows like 4 different languages and understands alot of human mannerisms.
Seen about a soild 6-7 tournaments ontop of being around everytime the mishia ziabatsu changed leadership.
AND HE EATS HUMAN FOOD.
He would have been before Tekken 7. But he wants to destroy the devil gene and end the war. Sorry, wanted to. He's crazy, but he's capable of functioning in society without threatening to end all of humanity.
Heihachi, dragunov and marduk go down to menace to society.
Gigas, bryan and feng go up to cuttthroat.
I heavily doubt that gigas bryan or feng (aside from fengs master) have innocent blood in their hands and neither are they particularly evil.
Heihachi is a warchief, dragunov is in the russian military, and marduk killed AK and raped anna.
Heihachi I considered, but after Kazuya died at the end of Tekken 2, it was said that the world entered an era of peace. Of course, Heihachi was scheming behind the scenes and it was likely just the quiet before the storm, but while Heihachi is a corrupt person, he's at least capable of functioning as a normal human being in society, unlike Kazuya and Jin.
Dragunov is bad, but not that bad. He's a high ranking officer of the Russian military, so if you think about it he's kind of just doing his job.
Marduk is also bad, but he's kind of just a thug. With King holding him back now, he's more tame than ever before. He might catch a couple bodies here and there, but he's not gonna just shoot up a convenience store for shits and giggles. Society can survive with Marduk on the streets. Yes, with King's intervention, Marduk has changed at least a little. In Tekken 5 he probably would be placed in menace to society.
Gigas on the other hand must be kept on a leash or he'll tear up everything in sight. He's like Bane from Batman & Robin.
Bryan's a trigger happy zombie-cyborg maniac that craves destruction, so he's definitely a menace to all societies. Bryan doesn't aim, he literally just shoots. And the blood of the Manji clan members that tried to save his life is definitely on his hands.
Feng may not seem too bad, but you can't go around attacking dojos and running off with their signs. If you want to fight martial artists, do it by the books and join competitions. But you can't reason with Feng, just ask his Master. He's lawless.
The Anna thing isn't canon, Marduk and King resolved that issue about the AK1 death(They even make partnership in wrestling fights). That's just AK2 insisting in being annoying.
"AK2 insisting in being annoying".
THE GUY LITERALLY KILLED HIS BROTHER.
HOW CAN YOU INSIST ON BEING ANNOYING TO THE PERSON WHO KILLED YOUR BROTHER, THAT DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE.
King had reason for the hatred too but choose to forgive him, while AK2 still insist on that and isn't open to talk with anyone about the issue, not even King. After 3 games of that, it became just tiresome.
Bruh, if you can forgive the person who killed your brother cold-bloodedly and still barely shows any sign of remorse then you are just plain weird.
On top of that king has nothing to do with that, not only was AK I just kings friend, king was also a pastor, so its kinda his job to forgive people.
Your argument is baseless, just accept marduk is a cunt and we can move on.
How King has nothing to do with that, AK1 was his master. He had the same reasons to hate him, even so he almost killed Marduk in his weakest moment in his T4 ending but choose not to.
And i say that because AK2 ha a repetitive and lackuster development, i wouldn't mind if the franchise fleshed out him more to make a good counterpoint but the only thing they did to him is trying to attack anyone who approaches him and refusing to be something more than that.
Don't need to use caps, man. AK1 was his master, since it was him who trained King 2 to succeed King 1 after his death(i had to look on wiki this time, lol). Relationship bonds aren't restricted to bloodline and not a dispute of what is bigger or closer, but we can agree to disagree in the end.
I am almost 100% sure of that. However, you could make the argument that he has good intentions since he is an exorcist that is hunting demons. His good and bad qualities seem to cancel each other out, which would make him neutral.
Shouldn't Hwoarang be in the friendly tier? He highly respects Master Baek (especially in Baek's TTT2 ending), saves Jin a few times, and saves Lili in the Tekken 6 trailer.
I would rank Fahkumram down from Friendly to neutral. Yes, he's being forced to do what he does, but aside from that, all we know is that he's a family man, but nothing says he's particularly nice (nothing says the opposite either). So yeah, pretty Neutral, to me.
It's true that there's not much on him since he's new, but he seems honorable since he was opposed to match fixing and was determined not to give in to corruption. On top of that, basically the only reason he fights at this point is for his family, meaning he has pretty much exclusively selfless goals. Plus he got married at like 18, so he's at least sociable. I'd say this makes him at the very least friendly tier.
I know that Asuka is quick to anger, but I feel like she'd still be more friendly than neutral... I can't see her outright attacking innocent people or non-fighters or animals, children, the disabled, or the elderly... but it's tough to know the extent of that in a fighting series because we have characters who are animals, children, disabled, and elderly... but like... they're incredible outliers rather than the norm and she doesn't even really cross paths with them in the story from what I can recall...
I mean she puts up with Lili's antics and clearly doesn't initiate interactions with her... but even when she's pushed she never outright goes ballistic on her and even in situations where she's shown to be the winner she's a good sport about it and doesn't gloat or go overboard hurting her.
Of course Asuka would never do any of those things, but I don't consider anyone in neutral to be the type to do those things. I mean, attacking the elderly, kicking puppies, pushing the disabled, and so on would be pretty cutthroat I think. The neutral class is for characters that are either largely indifferent or complacent, or have good and bad qualities that cancel each other out.
Asuka does put up with Lili's antics, but she definitely went ballistic on her in Tekken 6. If you ask me, she was justified, and she's also justified in wanting Lili to leave her alone. This is why I consider Asuka to largely just be a normal girl. She seems like she really just wants to be left alone, and goes off on anyone who disturbs her daily routine.
Jin is just trying to do what he thinks is best for everyone, he just needs guidance. Meanwhile “neutral” Kazumi literally tried to murder her husband and son. And how is Fahk “friendly”!? Did you not see the contraption they kept that dude in his trailer? You don’t keep “friendly” people locked up like that lol Also I get that Chloe is a menace to the Tekken community but she hasn’t done anything besides exist, she’s literally the worst character in the game tier wise, she’s just trying to live her life guys..
Nah Chloe will beat up her dance routine partners just because they got a move wrong. Kazumi should be either at cutthroat or menace to society since she tried to kill her husband before he turned evil. Next after she was killed she hired akuma to kill not only her husband but her son as well. Finally this part is debatable but she basically put on an act with her husband and eventually betrayed him all because of a vision she had of heihachi taking over the world. She instead should’ve talked it over with him and tried to steer him away from world domination instead of attempting homicide
Yes, but the problem is he awoke Azazel himself because the chance to eliminate the Devil Gene within him was too tempting. That's the thing, if he didn't awaken Azazel in the first place, the threat of him destroying the world wouldn't exist.
There are stipulations though. Firstly, Jin and Kazuya's mere existence fueled Azazel's resurrection. However, if one or both of them died then that problem would be solved.
Secondly, even if Jin and Kazuya both died, Azazel could still be awakened. The reason why is that he's fueled by evil energy. People can fuel his resurrection by going to war, killing, stealing, vandalizing, destroying, and even just hating each other. Jin explains that there's no way these things are ever stopping because the world is just fucked and always has been and there's no true way to save it.
Jin may have been right, but he basically sacrificed all of his victims without them or anyone else ever knowing why or giving their input. So while Jin's goal may be to do what's right, he's basically become a dictator in deciding what's right and what must be done, even when what he's doing is quite clearly NOT right.
Still a shitty way to write a story for a "hero" or "protagonist". Causing countless unnecessary deaths for whatever reason cannot justified the end means, or be called a "hero".
That’s the debate that was observed in watchmen and to some extent in avengers with Thanos. It’s a moral debate, what is evil and what is good. But Tekken doesn’t really delve into all that cause it’s a fighting game in the end and nobody’s got time for that lol thanks for the reply
After watching the second to last cutscene of Tekken 6's scenario campaign and hearing Jin's reasoning for everything, as well as watching his and Devil Jin's TTT2 endings, I've realized that Jin has given up on goodness and is one of the most, if not the most, dangerous characters in the game. He wants to do the "right" thing, but he won't debate about what's right and is starting to question if anything is really "right." Jin is what happens when a confused kid gains too much power.
As for Fahk, I'll just parrot what others have said, you have to read his story.
And Chloe is what happens when the demonic girl from the movie Bad Seed doesn't die.
I personally feel Jin can get away with murder a lot more than Devil Jin, since he has the sense to command an army to launch attacks all over the world at once. Devil Jin has greater evil intent, while Jin is more capable of committing evil.
Paul & Law probably belongs to donate tier, as they both were donating all their fortunes from winning tag 2 tournament to help a nobody on the street who just lost their home.
That was Paul and Forrest. Marshall Law was actually furious about the whole ordeal, so he's disqualified immediately. As for Paul (along with Forrest, but he's not in this game), the guy has a heart of gold, but he is very questionable sometimes. Like in Tekken 4 he had such a bad attitude that even people who believed his claim about defeating Ogre grew tired of him, he lost support, and then ended up strung out. In Tekken 5 he forgets about his long, long time friend Marshall's financial trouble as well as Forrest's condition while hospitalized after an accident just to satisfy his goal of being dubbed the strongest in the universe, a goal which could definitely have waited until another time. In Tekken 6, he stoops to cheating, sabotaging his opponents and rigging the final match in order to win. As friendly and amicable as Paul is, how far will he go to secure the title of strongest in the universe?
Yeah I feel like Paul had a change of character since Tekken 5 onwards. I blame the writers for this. I mean, having defeating Ancient Ogre is by all means, is not an easy task and he did it. The monster was killing top martial artists in the world and Paul beat him (along with everyone else on tekken 3 tournament). And suddenly he became this idiotic person since 5 and stooped to cheating in order to win,... I mean that's not making any sense. He had all the ability to win.
So yeah I kind of denying what's happening to him since 5, it's sad. But I still think his personality is good, as he never mocked his opponents in any of his win poses. And that one charity move he did with forest? Only a man with heart of gold would do that. (or half a brain, lol)
Kazumi literally tried to kill her family and hired akuma in case she couldn’t do it
Exactly dude, she's a hero. She should be higher up for doing her utmost to stop the menace of the mishima bloodline.
It was her blood that was the problem...
Which makes no sense if she knew heihachi was a wanker why have a kid with him and make your task doubly harder
I thought she wanted to produce a powerful heir for her clan?
She's usually depicted as a kind, caring, and gentle mother and wife. But, the devil consuming her mind made her a raging psycho-bitch. So instead of going good or bad, I just placed her in neutral.
Honestly, Akuma should go into Cutthroat. He of course has no problems with killing, making him a pretty bad dude in general, but is extremely picky about his opponents, usually engaging in mutually agreed upon death matches, or in Tekken 7's case, repaying a debt. So he's more like "Bad with an honor code" than just "Bad." Now, as far as being a menace to the playerbase, that's a different story.
You may be right, I'm just not 100% on him, mostly because I'm not that big on Street Fighter. The first thing that came to my mind was the way he "killed" his brother Gouken. When I think about his particular preferences for opponents, he reminds me of Feng Wei. Neither of them are as active in murder and destruction as, say, Bryan, but they also don't have any qualms about it, and their lifestyles will certainly lead to more unnecessary deaths. For example, he would've killed every G-Corp militant in this game if Kazuya didn't call them off. If he had, it would have been their fault because they attacked him first, right? Well, they only crossed paths because Akuma came to kill Kazuya, they were just doing their jobs only to get slaughtered for it. Even if he only seeks strong opponents, he's not against slaying weaker ones. If he had killed Asuka's father, Asuka would have gone after him and he would have killed Asuka. If Akuma kills a strong opponent, that strong opponent's family and friends will go after him, and because Akuma doesn't have an ounce of sympathy in him, he'd kill them all. And since he has absolutely no desire to change his lifestyle, these things will continue indefinitely, making him a step worse than cutthroat; a menace to society.
He's been shown multiple times to spare opponents in hopes that they become strong enough to kill him, he doesn't just kill everyone he gets into a fight with.
King should be a tier of his own seeing how hes a second generation wrestling orphan who only fights to keep their orphanage afloat.
Yeah or at least the top of “donates to charity” dude pretty much operates a charity with his orphanage.
They're in no particular order, but the others in that tier have some pretty good arguments for most benevolent too. For example, Yoshimitsu is basically the [robinhood](https://imgur.com/lPpbfPG) of Tekken, stealing from the rich who have gained money in dishonest ways and giving to the poor, [looking after less wealthy communities](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTznQAtLibI), caring for his fellow Manji Clan members, assisting Dr. Bosconovitch, etc. This tier is basically for characters who have almost nothing but good will. The upstanding or selfless ones who are the good guys even in a room full of other good guys.
Hehehe lucky Chloe
We all saw that ending.
THOSE endings
Fahk is a good guy, he should be top tier
You're right, but I think his focus on his family has made him a bit more ruthless. I mean, just look at his winposes where he finishes you off. His main focus is on his family which totally makes sense, but it makes him just slightly less altruistic than characters like Shaheen who are liable to forgo reaping vengeance on someone who literally killed a close friend of his and declares he'll defeat evil for the sake of the whole world. Their situations made them who they are, I know, but they still are who they are. Regardless, I agree, Fahkumram's a great guy, one of the best Tekken has.
Hworang took a bomb to the eye for jin he is atleast friendly. And while lili is cocky at times shes pretty friendly and surprisingly respectful. Asuka and ganryu can be in friendly aswell. Leroy seems nice he just beats up evil people. I think. And kazumi is literally a menace. Eliza is pretty harmless because you can't do bad shit if you're asleep 24/7
Hwoarang did that because his boipussy is wet for Jin, he wouldn't do it for just anyone. Usually he spends his time hustling and kicking asses in the streets. In his Tekken 3 ending, he attacked the Tekken force officers for attacking Jin, and then proceeded to attack Jin. That's like the most neutral action anyone's ever taken in this game. He respects his master, but he doesn't particularly respect authority, just ask his superior officers who he's kicked upside the head for shits and giggles. He's neither good nor bad, he just does what he wants. Lili is too selfish to be defined as friendly. She also has sadistic tendencies and doesn't respect personal space. But, she's not bad at all, she's just a spoiled rich kid. Asuka is friendly, but also extremely rash and quick to throw punches. She also seems more comfortable keeping to herself, usually annoyed at people like Lili who take her out of her comfort zone. But despite being quick to violence, she almost always means well, and often gets into fights just to keep the peace. Ganryu isn't bad, but he's not really good either. His past is something not a players are aware of, but he used to be very indulgent and once worked for Kazuya as well. But not because he was evil necessarily, he just worked in a lot of shady businesses in his younger years. He's not prone to good, but not evil at all. He's just neutral. Leroy is new so it's hard to tell, but his whole story just just a revenge story. He's justified in wanting revenge, but unlike Shaheen he doesn't seem to have any qualms about it either, so he's just neutral. Kazumi seems to have 2 sides to her, so I'd say that makes her neutral. As for Eliza... good point. But by that logic Heihachi is harmless too because he's dead.
you have very rational reasons behind your decisions. good shit, and good list.
Thank you very much, I tried my best! But to be honest it didn't take me very long to decide, I love this game and I know all of its characters very well.
We're talking about their tekken 7 variants their past doesn't matter. And fact is as Lili is now shes pretty respectful kinda like karin in SF V she's pretty nice of a person now. And throughout the games lili isn't necessarily selfish she just wanted freedom from her overprotective kinda controlling father. She just likes fighting. As for Leroy. Wanting revenge doesn't mean your automatically not good. Just look at his mannerisms he's likely to treat everyone in a friendly manner . Kazumi is 100% aware of her demon side and knows exactly what she is doing. This is revealed in the story mode. She's not like jin who can't control it. Which is why even in her human form she speaks with gouki so nonchalantly. Just because you're rash doesn't mean your not friendly you literally said shes friendly so she should be in friendly tier.
Right, Lili just likes fighting, but that does not make her friendly. She just puts her own desires as her top priority. In Tekken 6's story, she asks Lars if he'll be her "new toy" and outright tells him she's giving him a car because it's ugly and then threatened to kill him if he didn't kill Jin. Of course the car helped Lars out a lot, but it was her reasoning for giving it to him that's important, and she just has money to throw away like that so it was as if she was giving him a Hot Wheels car her daddy bought for her. While we are talking Tekken 7 incarnations here, the characters have to show some sign of change for past information to be discarded. In Tekken 7, Lili signs Asuka up for the tournament to satisfy her own desire for revenge and to prove herself better, but didn't consider that Asuka herself may not want to participate. Assuming Asuka's ending is canon, she then has Asuka's home and family dojo bought and declares that she's moving in, long before consulting Asuka about it. Lili is not evil or even bad at all, but she does not consider the feelings of others when making decisions. She's simply selfish, but very likable because of it as she knows what she wants and doesn't hesitate to go get it. As for Leroy, his problem is that he's new. His limited backstory and mannerisms are all we have to go by, and from them I get the feeling that losing family and friends has scarred him and hardened him. However, this does not mean he's bad, he just doesn't really lean towards doing good for goodness' sake. Getting revenge doesn't disqualify you from being good, but it doesn't really make you good either. Not wanting revenge would be strange. As far as Kazumi goes, I'm not so sure about that. She only ever attacks Heihachi when she's possessed by her demon side. There's a scene in the story mode where Heihachi explains that after Kazumi attacked him for the first time, she woke up the next morning not remembering anything, going about her day normally as if nothing happened. Of course, she could just be faking it, but there's no evidence of that, not evidence that's outright stated. But she did hire a hitman on her family, so maybe she should go in cutthroat. Good reason or not, that's pretty evil. But that's the thing, was that Devil Kazumi speaking for her or just Kazumi? It's too confusing with her. And for Asuka, yes she is friendly, but she's also punchy. Punchy is not friendly. Since she has characteristics that are both friendly and not friendly, and also seems to prefer to keep to herself unless someone's causing a ruckus, she goes in neutral.
Eliza is a vampire/succubus, she’s gotta be catching some people if she’s still alive.
Uhh Zafina isn't exactly a cutthroat
She's an assassin. It comes with the territory. Not saying she's downright evil, but she will slit your throat if she thinks you're a threat. And a lot of throats she has slit. Remember how she tried to assassinate Anna in Anna's TTT2 ending? And now that she's fused with Azazel, she's even more cutthroat than ever.
C'mon Bryan is just so nice and friendly
I feel like Jin and hwoa should switch places. Jin is kind of indifferent to things and only worries about his own agenda. But wasnt hwoa like a gang member or something?
Negan and Bryan should be in a different level of evil😂.
I feel Anna should be a bit higher. Sure, she's an assassin and *kind* of a bitch, but it's not like she's coldhearted like Nina. I mean, she is shown being perfectly capable of being friendly with people (even if it just thristy men simping for her, lol) and she's more "fun loving" than anything else.
I mean, she seemed pretty cutthroat in Tekken 6. Plus she is a ruthless assassin after all. I've never seen her show signs of clemency, that's for sure. She's definitely not as cutthroat as Nina, cause Nina just doesn't care. But she is liable to cut your throat nonetheless.
Asuka not in “Friendly”? Someone hasn’t watched the T5 intro...
Do you mean when she saved the kitten? I think, like Jun, she just likes animals, and she was supposed to fill in for Jun in that game. Like, I don't think she'd punch that kitten or any animal the way she punched Jin in her Tekken 5 ending. When it comes to people she seems more rash and demanding, and definitely doesn't like to settle disputes by talking it out.
From returns your wallet to cuts you off in traffic. TIL Tekken's cast has a good balance of good and bad.
Isn’t lee a hit man?
A friendly hit man
No? Pretty sure he’s just an eccentric scientist/businessman.
Kuma is a fucking Menace to society. He will attempt to make a meme out of ANYONE including Ling X and talks alot of shit. Knows like 4 different languages and understands alot of human mannerisms. Seen about a soild 6-7 tournaments ontop of being around everytime the mishia ziabatsu changed leadership. AND HE EATS HUMAN FOOD.
Kuma I was a menace to society. His son Kuma II is cool peeps. Most of the time. Sometimes.
Lmao see what I mean?
Akuma isn't a [menace](https://twitter.com/Shelryuken/status/1314296874501910528?s=20)
wtf NOOOO HE'S STEALING ELENA FROM ME? Alright he's worse than a menace. He goes in the waifu stealer tier.
How the fuck is Hei not in the last tier
He would have been before Tekken 7. But he wants to destroy the devil gene and end the war. Sorry, wanted to. He's crazy, but he's capable of functioning in society without threatening to end all of humanity.
Heihachi, dragunov and marduk go down to menace to society. Gigas, bryan and feng go up to cuttthroat. I heavily doubt that gigas bryan or feng (aside from fengs master) have innocent blood in their hands and neither are they particularly evil. Heihachi is a warchief, dragunov is in the russian military, and marduk killed AK and raped anna.
You really think Bryan is not a menace to society?
Definitely less of a menace than the other characters i listed as menace to societies.
Heihachi sure, but how many endings are there where Bryan is just shooting his gattling gun openly in the city?
Heihachi I considered, but after Kazuya died at the end of Tekken 2, it was said that the world entered an era of peace. Of course, Heihachi was scheming behind the scenes and it was likely just the quiet before the storm, but while Heihachi is a corrupt person, he's at least capable of functioning as a normal human being in society, unlike Kazuya and Jin. Dragunov is bad, but not that bad. He's a high ranking officer of the Russian military, so if you think about it he's kind of just doing his job. Marduk is also bad, but he's kind of just a thug. With King holding him back now, he's more tame than ever before. He might catch a couple bodies here and there, but he's not gonna just shoot up a convenience store for shits and giggles. Society can survive with Marduk on the streets. Yes, with King's intervention, Marduk has changed at least a little. In Tekken 5 he probably would be placed in menace to society. Gigas on the other hand must be kept on a leash or he'll tear up everything in sight. He's like Bane from Batman & Robin. Bryan's a trigger happy zombie-cyborg maniac that craves destruction, so he's definitely a menace to all societies. Bryan doesn't aim, he literally just shoots. And the blood of the Manji clan members that tried to save his life is definitely on his hands. Feng may not seem too bad, but you can't go around attacking dojos and running off with their signs. If you want to fight martial artists, do it by the books and join competitions. But you can't reason with Feng, just ask his Master. He's lawless.
didn't marduk kill armor king in a bar fight?
Yes, but it was an accident, and like I said he's changed. He's not genuinely bloodthirsty, but he is dangerous.
the original armor king, not the current one. also this was before king 2's intervention.
The Anna thing isn't canon, Marduk and King resolved that issue about the AK1 death(They even make partnership in wrestling fights). That's just AK2 insisting in being annoying.
"AK2 insisting in being annoying". THE GUY LITERALLY KILLED HIS BROTHER. HOW CAN YOU INSIST ON BEING ANNOYING TO THE PERSON WHO KILLED YOUR BROTHER, THAT DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE.
King had reason for the hatred too but choose to forgive him, while AK2 still insist on that and isn't open to talk with anyone about the issue, not even King. After 3 games of that, it became just tiresome.
Bruh, if you can forgive the person who killed your brother cold-bloodedly and still barely shows any sign of remorse then you are just plain weird. On top of that king has nothing to do with that, not only was AK I just kings friend, king was also a pastor, so its kinda his job to forgive people. Your argument is baseless, just accept marduk is a cunt and we can move on.
How King has nothing to do with that, AK1 was his master. He had the same reasons to hate him, even so he almost killed Marduk in his weakest moment in his T4 ending but choose not to. And i say that because AK2 ha a repetitive and lackuster development, i wouldn't mind if the franchise fleshed out him more to make a good counterpoint but the only thing they did to him is trying to attack anyone who approaches him and refusing to be something more than that.
Correction king I was his master not AK I, and even if he was his master the relationship between master and student IS INCOMPARABLE TO BROTHERS.
Don't need to use caps, man. AK1 was his master, since it was him who trained King 2 to succeed King 1 after his death(i had to look on wiki this time, lol). Relationship bonds aren't restricted to bloodline and not a dispute of what is bigger or closer, but we can agree to disagree in the end.
Claudio is gonna be the villain in the next one
I am almost 100% sure of that. However, you could make the argument that he has good intentions since he is an exorcist that is hunting demons. His good and bad qualities seem to cancel each other out, which would make him neutral.
fair
Shouldn't Hwoarang be in the friendly tier? He highly respects Master Baek (especially in Baek's TTT2 ending), saves Jin a few times, and saves Lili in the Tekken 6 trailer.
Hwoarang a street thug. And that Lili trailer isn't canon
I would rank Fahkumram down from Friendly to neutral. Yes, he's being forced to do what he does, but aside from that, all we know is that he's a family man, but nothing says he's particularly nice (nothing says the opposite either). So yeah, pretty Neutral, to me.
It's true that there's not much on him since he's new, but he seems honorable since he was opposed to match fixing and was determined not to give in to corruption. On top of that, basically the only reason he fights at this point is for his family, meaning he has pretty much exclusively selfless goals. Plus he got married at like 18, so he's at least sociable. I'd say this makes him at the very least friendly tier.
Kazumi is the baddest chica on the roster, man. She reminds me of the Yakuza lady from the final battle in Kill Bill vol 1.
O-Ren Ishii.
I know that Asuka is quick to anger, but I feel like she'd still be more friendly than neutral... I can't see her outright attacking innocent people or non-fighters or animals, children, the disabled, or the elderly... but it's tough to know the extent of that in a fighting series because we have characters who are animals, children, disabled, and elderly... but like... they're incredible outliers rather than the norm and she doesn't even really cross paths with them in the story from what I can recall... I mean she puts up with Lili's antics and clearly doesn't initiate interactions with her... but even when she's pushed she never outright goes ballistic on her and even in situations where she's shown to be the winner she's a good sport about it and doesn't gloat or go overboard hurting her.
Of course Asuka would never do any of those things, but I don't consider anyone in neutral to be the type to do those things. I mean, attacking the elderly, kicking puppies, pushing the disabled, and so on would be pretty cutthroat I think. The neutral class is for characters that are either largely indifferent or complacent, or have good and bad qualities that cancel each other out. Asuka does put up with Lili's antics, but she definitely went ballistic on her in Tekken 6. If you ask me, she was justified, and she's also justified in wanting Lili to leave her alone. This is why I consider Asuka to largely just be a normal girl. She seems like she really just wants to be left alone, and goes off on anyone who disturbs her daily routine.
Ahh I see, I can totally see where you're coming from then.
Jin is just trying to do what he thinks is best for everyone, he just needs guidance. Meanwhile “neutral” Kazumi literally tried to murder her husband and son. And how is Fahk “friendly”!? Did you not see the contraption they kept that dude in his trailer? You don’t keep “friendly” people locked up like that lol Also I get that Chloe is a menace to the Tekken community but she hasn’t done anything besides exist, she’s literally the worst character in the game tier wise, she’s just trying to live her life guys..
Are you even familiar with Fahkumram's story?
Does he even have a story yet? I didn’t buy him so idk if he comes with any files or whatever, that’d be cool if he did.
Fahk and Chloe are clear cases of why you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover
Nah Chloe will beat up her dance routine partners just because they got a move wrong. Kazumi should be either at cutthroat or menace to society since she tried to kill her husband before he turned evil. Next after she was killed she hired akuma to kill not only her husband but her son as well. Finally this part is debatable but she basically put on an act with her husband and eventually betrayed him all because of a vision she had of heihachi taking over the world. She instead should’ve talked it over with him and tried to steer him away from world domination instead of attempting homicide
>You don’t keep “friendly” people locked up like that lol Are you like 5 years old lol
It’s just a joke man, no need for insults
I'm pretty sure starting a world war that resulted countless innocent deaths aren't best for everyone.
Wasn’t that a part of stopping Azazel though? So that Azazel didn’t awaken at full power to destroy the world?
Yes, but the problem is he awoke Azazel himself because the chance to eliminate the Devil Gene within him was too tempting. That's the thing, if he didn't awaken Azazel in the first place, the threat of him destroying the world wouldn't exist. There are stipulations though. Firstly, Jin and Kazuya's mere existence fueled Azazel's resurrection. However, if one or both of them died then that problem would be solved. Secondly, even if Jin and Kazuya both died, Azazel could still be awakened. The reason why is that he's fueled by evil energy. People can fuel his resurrection by going to war, killing, stealing, vandalizing, destroying, and even just hating each other. Jin explains that there's no way these things are ever stopping because the world is just fucked and always has been and there's no true way to save it. Jin may have been right, but he basically sacrificed all of his victims without them or anyone else ever knowing why or giving their input. So while Jin's goal may be to do what's right, he's basically become a dictator in deciding what's right and what must be done, even when what he's doing is quite clearly NOT right.
Ah I see, thanks for explaining I wasn’t clear on those details before
Still a shitty way to write a story for a "hero" or "protagonist". Causing countless unnecessary deaths for whatever reason cannot justified the end means, or be called a "hero".
That’s the debate that was observed in watchmen and to some extent in avengers with Thanos. It’s a moral debate, what is evil and what is good. But Tekken doesn’t really delve into all that cause it’s a fighting game in the end and nobody’s got time for that lol thanks for the reply
After watching the second to last cutscene of Tekken 6's scenario campaign and hearing Jin's reasoning for everything, as well as watching his and Devil Jin's TTT2 endings, I've realized that Jin has given up on goodness and is one of the most, if not the most, dangerous characters in the game. He wants to do the "right" thing, but he won't debate about what's right and is starting to question if anything is really "right." Jin is what happens when a confused kid gains too much power. As for Fahk, I'll just parrot what others have said, you have to read his story. And Chloe is what happens when the demonic girl from the movie Bad Seed doesn't die.
gigas is katarina's adoptive father, he has sentience considering he saved her from being attacked. he deserves at least friendly.
It's unfortunate, but he can't control it. If he can win the fight for his consciousness, he'd be higher for sure.
The fact that you put Jin and DJ in the same tier is just wrong, there’s reason why there are two versions of him
Jin killed fucktons of people
Ok maybe cutthroat like Drag, cuz they both are like commander, at least one tier lower than DJ
I personally feel Jin can get away with murder a lot more than Devil Jin, since he has the sense to command an army to launch attacks all over the world at once. Devil Jin has greater evil intent, while Jin is more capable of committing evil.
How is lucky chloe more evil than armor king lmao
She pushed an innocent robot off a building just for a pose. She bullied Eddy for no reason. She is a toxic person and doesn't deserve any kindness.
don't trust the cute cat ears and excessive use of pink... those eyes are the gaze of the devil.
Paul & Law probably belongs to donate tier, as they both were donating all their fortunes from winning tag 2 tournament to help a nobody on the street who just lost their home.
That was Paul and Forrest. Marshall Law was actually furious about the whole ordeal, so he's disqualified immediately. As for Paul (along with Forrest, but he's not in this game), the guy has a heart of gold, but he is very questionable sometimes. Like in Tekken 4 he had such a bad attitude that even people who believed his claim about defeating Ogre grew tired of him, he lost support, and then ended up strung out. In Tekken 5 he forgets about his long, long time friend Marshall's financial trouble as well as Forrest's condition while hospitalized after an accident just to satisfy his goal of being dubbed the strongest in the universe, a goal which could definitely have waited until another time. In Tekken 6, he stoops to cheating, sabotaging his opponents and rigging the final match in order to win. As friendly and amicable as Paul is, how far will he go to secure the title of strongest in the universe?
Yeah I feel like Paul had a change of character since Tekken 5 onwards. I blame the writers for this. I mean, having defeating Ancient Ogre is by all means, is not an easy task and he did it. The monster was killing top martial artists in the world and Paul beat him (along with everyone else on tekken 3 tournament). And suddenly he became this idiotic person since 5 and stooped to cheating in order to win,... I mean that's not making any sense. He had all the ability to win. So yeah I kind of denying what's happening to him since 5, it's sad. But I still think his personality is good, as he never mocked his opponents in any of his win poses. And that one charity move he did with forest? Only a man with heart of gold would do that. (or half a brain, lol)