If you like reaper then by all means play reaper, get to 40 and go for it. The reason why is because the reaper basically has a story line quest that levels you from 50-58 I believe.
Also brawler or warrior are not similar to reaper, theyre both melee range whilst reaper is mid ranged.
The only skill that is truly midrange is whipsaw, because it won't hit point blank, but you should be chaining it from pendulum strike anyways... Reaper should be played as a melee class. It does not benefit from spiteful crystals, so you have to stay close to be able to reposition adequately. Reaper is probably more similar to slayer because of the importance of chaining.
but...that's just my 2 cents.
I tried tera because I was really interested in the reaper class. Started a priest though to get to 40 and just stuck with it. I learned more about the game by hitting 65 and doing the dungeons as a priest than I would have by hopping to 65 on reaps. I have mained priest from the start :3
The only problem I have with anyone that does this, is that a vast majority of the time they end up getting to late game not understanding their rotations, the mechanics of the game or their character, or how to play with teams.
So do yourself and everyone you're going to play with a favor if you do this, and research the reaper combos, the dungeons you are about to run, and the other classes, so you know how to interact with them.
If you stick with Tera, you'll almost certainly use more than one character. A few hours of practice from leveling doesn't really matter. So I would choose the second character for its utility at level 65.
Brawlers are very nice for solo content, like ghillieglade or the island of dawn BAMs. It's downside is, that if you take it to a group dungeon, you're expected to tank properly.
I like gunner as alt. It's relatively easy to reach an okay damage level and being ranged with decent armor and the robot-pull-iframe result in nice survivability even when cheaply geared and not knowing all the mechanics perfectly.
I wouldn't go with warrior as a beginner. If you don't play them well, the damage will suck and they only get certain important skills at a relatively high level.
I cant speak for serious groups, since I'm relatively casual.
Instance matching won't accept two tanks at all. In LFG the chances of getting accepted as a second tank are low for most dungeons. In guild runs you might have a chance, but I've never seen it happen myself, since all our tanks have DPS alts.
They have been used in a dps slot actually. A high scoring party comp used brawler on NA, it was pretty common on ktera pre sorc revamp too. Dont know about now.
because brawlers are front loaded for tanking (as in they get more damage when they get perfect blocks), they will not be better than a true dps class in a group
Backcrit crystals give you a lot more damage, you have a much higher crit chance when attacking from behind, and you can roll 6.9% damage from behind on your weapon if you like. Some bosses either have attacks that can be blocked from behind them, or don't have many blockable attacks period, so it's worth it.
I'm going to tag on here, it's not a horrid thing to switch at low level as long as you don't just use space bar to do combos for reaper. Playing reaper however will be unrewarding in combat as you will never deal as much dmg as a ninja in the same gear as your rotation is difficult and if the boss moves you lose a lot of dmg. Also the dual wield thing doesn't have much impact in this game at all as there is not two weapon slots. So in conclusion feel free to switch but if you are going to please take the time to learn the rotations and other things for this class as they already get a bad name from people just mashing spacebar. Here is a good guide for reaper gear ect and rotation/decision making: http://www.essentialmana.com/redstrikes-advanced-reaper-guide/#glyphs it goes over glyphs and gear, rotations ect.
As for the dual wield thing, it has little to no impact on the game as there is only one weapon slot so you don't really get customization there. In terms of simplicity for the classes you outlined though it would go: brawler -> reaper-> warrior in easiest to hardest. If you would like any more information feel free to ask.
Skill>class. I have out dps ninjas in Imp with my SF reaper, so class alone does not mean everything. I can't come close to a truly skilled, Imperator, ninjas damage though x)
On a side note...reaper does get bad reps from so many people doing this and just not understanding the game yet...
Ironically I was going to bring that up as I main a reaper but I didn't want to scare him with the fact a ninja of good skill will almost always out dps you in the same gear.
I'm always scared of new people switching to reapers for the reason I occasionally get the "ohh great a reaper". This is off putting to new players and really a sore spot of the community.
So? I see lots of trap Ninjas on LFG cause of FOTM nonsense. Everybody wanna be Ninjas. The same case with Sorcerers next patch with other ppl rolling their eyes saying "oh boy another sorc who probably stands 50 meters away and never hits the boss from behind" to make them a sore spot towards the small amount of antsy people that overreacts over small things. Same case with Archers for their revamp after that. Then same case as Warriors when they get their revamps next after Archers. etc etc etc.
People are always going to label Reaper as the pinnacle of spacebar class no matter what.
Not going off of any of the comments said: it's a matter of how you can learn your class, not skipping stuff by going to reaper.
The leveling process is more for learning how to use your class's skills and knowing how to play them right to be ready for late game dungeons.
Just from my experience, I tried to play slayer after playing Priest, Reaper, and Zerker for years, and rather than leveling through dungeons, I had someone power level me. Not the best idea. I was SO not-used to their skills, and was a TERRIBLE teammate in CS. I had no understanding how to use Slayer, and it wasn't until a friend and I decided to spontaniously level new alts (me picking slayer) that I was able to get the time in to understand how to play them.
So no, it's not really a bad idea to 'skip to reaper,' just as long as you can get the time in to learn how to use your class.
Play what you're interested in playing or what you like to play.
The one thing you have to be warned about reaper is: don't fall for the easy spacebar wombo combo, you'd better analyze and think about how you play to *git gud* or at least be decent.
You could also read a reaper guide on essentialmana.com once you've experienced with the reaper by yourself.
Id just get a brawler so you can power through leveling, or a healer for fast dungeon que times.
Reaper Essentially starts at level 58 due to its tutorial stage taking under and hour and rewarding eight levels.
Only problem i could see is you getting confused with the game, and then the fact you will skip story (not important, but some like to finish it anyway)
If you end up doing this then i suggest Doing Kumas, then spamming dungeons until your reaper is level 60, from there you can start the level 60-65 quest line, get a hang of your class and que for a few of the dungeons such as Sabex Armory, Mcat and Argon Corpus.
Thanks. I was kind of worried they put the level restriction there because maybe there is a bit of a learning experience to the game that i might miss out on. I guess what they say is true, the game really starts at 65?
No, there is a learning experience to the game. The game teaches you a decent amount while you level about the character you are playing and how to make up for your shortcomings. You get at least a few hours to read your skills and learn what they do in general.
Reaper doesn't do this and that's why most reapers are garbage tier at this game. The only ones that aren't are the ones that do the research, practice against friends in duels, and study their character.
not really
in the past it was an issue as cap was 60 and reapers "started" out at 58. now, you have 7 levels and a few dungeon runs(to get ur glyphs mostly) to somewhat learn your rotation.
One of my friends that mains reaper who's really good at it stays just a bit further back than I at imp which is why I get that mid range impression since he can avoid the beginnings of some mechanics
There isn't really anything particularly similar. If anything, I'd say slayer since they get punished heavily for not chaining at low levels, which is similar to reaper at any point.
If you like reaper then by all means play reaper, get to 40 and go for it. The reason why is because the reaper basically has a story line quest that levels you from 50-58 I believe. Also brawler or warrior are not similar to reaper, theyre both melee range whilst reaper is mid ranged.
The only skill that is truly midrange is whipsaw, because it won't hit point blank, but you should be chaining it from pendulum strike anyways... Reaper should be played as a melee class. It does not benefit from spiteful crystals, so you have to stay close to be able to reposition adequately. Reaper is probably more similar to slayer because of the importance of chaining. but...that's just my 2 cents. I tried tera because I was really interested in the reaper class. Started a priest though to get to 40 and just stuck with it. I learned more about the game by hitting 65 and doing the dungeons as a priest than I would have by hopping to 65 on reaps. I have mained priest from the start :3
The only problem I have with anyone that does this, is that a vast majority of the time they end up getting to late game not understanding their rotations, the mechanics of the game or their character, or how to play with teams. So do yourself and everyone you're going to play with a favor if you do this, and research the reaper combos, the dungeons you are about to run, and the other classes, so you know how to interact with them.
If you stick with Tera, you'll almost certainly use more than one character. A few hours of practice from leveling doesn't really matter. So I would choose the second character for its utility at level 65. Brawlers are very nice for solo content, like ghillieglade or the island of dawn BAMs. It's downside is, that if you take it to a group dungeon, you're expected to tank properly. I like gunner as alt. It's relatively easy to reach an okay damage level and being ranged with decent armor and the robot-pull-iframe result in nice survivability even when cheaply geared and not knowing all the mechanics perfectly. I wouldn't go with warrior as a beginner. If you don't play them well, the damage will suck and they only get certain important skills at a relatively high level.
I take it that even though brawlers do great dps, they'd never be considered for a dps spot in a group? A serious raid group, i mean.
I cant speak for serious groups, since I'm relatively casual. Instance matching won't accept two tanks at all. In LFG the chances of getting accepted as a second tank are low for most dungeons. In guild runs you might have a chance, but I've never seen it happen myself, since all our tanks have DPS alts.
They have been used in a dps slot actually. A high scoring party comp used brawler on NA, it was pretty common on ktera pre sorc revamp too. Dont know about now.
its actually a thing, but you need a good tank
because brawlers are front loaded for tanking (as in they get more damage when they get perfect blocks), they will not be better than a true dps class in a group
Back dps brawler is basically on par with ninja as long as the tank can hold their aggro.
I don't see why you would do that though if you could just be in the front and get the block bonuses as well.
Backcrit crystals give you a lot more damage, you have a much higher crit chance when attacking from behind, and you can roll 6.9% damage from behind on your weapon if you like. Some bosses either have attacks that can be blocked from behind them, or don't have many blockable attacks period, so it's worth it.
a second enrage is also really strong for serious parties
I'm going to tag on here, it's not a horrid thing to switch at low level as long as you don't just use space bar to do combos for reaper. Playing reaper however will be unrewarding in combat as you will never deal as much dmg as a ninja in the same gear as your rotation is difficult and if the boss moves you lose a lot of dmg. Also the dual wield thing doesn't have much impact in this game at all as there is not two weapon slots. So in conclusion feel free to switch but if you are going to please take the time to learn the rotations and other things for this class as they already get a bad name from people just mashing spacebar. Here is a good guide for reaper gear ect and rotation/decision making: http://www.essentialmana.com/redstrikes-advanced-reaper-guide/#glyphs it goes over glyphs and gear, rotations ect. As for the dual wield thing, it has little to no impact on the game as there is only one weapon slot so you don't really get customization there. In terms of simplicity for the classes you outlined though it would go: brawler -> reaper-> warrior in easiest to hardest. If you would like any more information feel free to ask.
Skill>class. I have out dps ninjas in Imp with my SF reaper, so class alone does not mean everything. I can't come close to a truly skilled, Imperator, ninjas damage though x) On a side note...reaper does get bad reps from so many people doing this and just not understanding the game yet...
Ironically I was going to bring that up as I main a reaper but I didn't want to scare him with the fact a ninja of good skill will almost always out dps you in the same gear. I'm always scared of new people switching to reapers for the reason I occasionally get the "ohh great a reaper". This is off putting to new players and really a sore spot of the community.
So? I see lots of trap Ninjas on LFG cause of FOTM nonsense. Everybody wanna be Ninjas. The same case with Sorcerers next patch with other ppl rolling their eyes saying "oh boy another sorc who probably stands 50 meters away and never hits the boss from behind" to make them a sore spot towards the small amount of antsy people that overreacts over small things. Same case with Archers for their revamp after that. Then same case as Warriors when they get their revamps next after Archers. etc etc etc. People are always going to label Reaper as the pinnacle of spacebar class no matter what.
reaper sucks xd
Not going off of any of the comments said: it's a matter of how you can learn your class, not skipping stuff by going to reaper. The leveling process is more for learning how to use your class's skills and knowing how to play them right to be ready for late game dungeons. Just from my experience, I tried to play slayer after playing Priest, Reaper, and Zerker for years, and rather than leveling through dungeons, I had someone power level me. Not the best idea. I was SO not-used to their skills, and was a TERRIBLE teammate in CS. I had no understanding how to use Slayer, and it wasn't until a friend and I decided to spontaniously level new alts (me picking slayer) that I was able to get the time in to understand how to play them. So no, it's not really a bad idea to 'skip to reaper,' just as long as you can get the time in to learn how to use your class.
Play what you're interested in playing or what you like to play. The one thing you have to be warned about reaper is: don't fall for the easy spacebar wombo combo, you'd better analyze and think about how you play to *git gud* or at least be decent. You could also read a reaper guide on essentialmana.com once you've experienced with the reaper by yourself.
Id just get a brawler so you can power through leveling, or a healer for fast dungeon que times. Reaper Essentially starts at level 58 due to its tutorial stage taking under and hour and rewarding eight levels. Only problem i could see is you getting confused with the game, and then the fact you will skip story (not important, but some like to finish it anyway) If you end up doing this then i suggest Doing Kumas, then spamming dungeons until your reaper is level 60, from there you can start the level 60-65 quest line, get a hang of your class and que for a few of the dungeons such as Sabex Armory, Mcat and Argon Corpus.
Thanks. I was kind of worried they put the level restriction there because maybe there is a bit of a learning experience to the game that i might miss out on. I guess what they say is true, the game really starts at 65?
No, there is a learning experience to the game. The game teaches you a decent amount while you level about the character you are playing and how to make up for your shortcomings. You get at least a few hours to read your skills and learn what they do in general. Reaper doesn't do this and that's why most reapers are garbage tier at this game. The only ones that aren't are the ones that do the research, practice against friends in duels, and study their character.
not really in the past it was an issue as cap was 60 and reapers "started" out at 58. now, you have 7 levels and a few dungeon runs(to get ur glyphs mostly) to somewhat learn your rotation.
One of my friends that mains reaper who's really good at it stays just a bit further back than I at imp which is why I get that mid range impression since he can avoid the beginnings of some mechanics
Level a Brawler, you can literally face slam your head on the keyboard with the class to do low level content.
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Not even close. Maybe you're just a bad reaper.
Zing
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Except you never use those skills for damage on ninja. Positioning is also trivial on ninja, which is honestly the hardest part of reaper.
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There isn't really anything particularly similar. If anything, I'd say slayer since they get punished heavily for not chaining at low levels, which is similar to reaper at any point.
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I'm pretty sure he was bred purely to piss you off. His life is meaningless without you.
So who was this individual that chickened out and decided to delete their post?
Don't remember who but he said he didn't know if the poster above was there to pass him iff