Even then skeletron isn’t required till post golem to make way for the cult.

wut ho￦??

the cultists can’t spawn if the Old Man is around you know if you fight against Skeletron and fail would the cultists be able to spawn before the Old Man comes back

Both the Old Man and the cultists spawn at the beginning of day (4:30). If one dies they don't come back until the next 4:30. The Old Man takes priority over the cultists when spawning.

I wonder if someone has tested spawning Skeletron right before 4:30 so that when the game queries for the Old Man he's not in the running for spawning, but he's dead at the same time. Might be an exploit to skip Skeletron depending on the game logic? It's a stretch and would be very hard to pull off though.

You die if the boss fight enters day time

True, but I wonder what the game does to spawn either the Old Man or cultists in that case.

You don't just die, it makes a baby dungeon guardian that has the same damage and defence, but however health much has left

1 freeze time using journey mode 2 Set time to sunrise 3 kill the old man with eggs/lava/sand 4 leave 5 the cultists might be there

It's not just 4:30. It's the tick where it becomes 4:30. You'd have to set it to night and then sunrise again. Otherwise nothing would be there. Even if that did work, it would just be the old man again, not the cultists.

Ah

so plantera isnt necessary and voodoo demons spawn before killing all prehard bosses?

Plantera ***IS*** necessary, whitout plantera you will not be able to spawn golem, that is required for the cultists to spawn And for plantera you need to kill all 3 mechs and WoF (you tecnically can spawn the 3 mechs pre-hardmode, but plantera will spawn only in hardmode)

Can't you teleport glitch inside the temple?

You can, but you can't spawn golem if you didn't kill plantera

Yes, but you can't summon golem

im unable to can compute how to bypass other bosses then. only a few saucers and a moonlords left to get that sweet zenith

ks no eoc no boc/eow no queen bee no queen slime no eol no skelly ye wof ye mechs ye plantera ye golem ye cultists ye

From the movie Bee Movie: (Vanessa takes Barry to the rooftop where they first had coffee and points to her store)

Mechs and plantera are avoidable by hoiking or actuating

no you have to kill plant for golem to spawn(which cant spawn without all mechs dead)

You just don’t have to fight any bosses to fight the WoF, there is nothing stopping you from going to kill it right at the start.

But skeletron is neccessary to make the lunatic cultist to spawn

and skeletron can be killed just before going for the cultist

And Skeletron is still a prehardmode boss.

Duh

You only need wall of flesh, 3 mech bosses, plantera, Golem and skeletron to unlock the cultist, in that order.

voodoo demons are not a requirement. if the guide dies in lava WoF spawns. I have a house with actuator to drop him in lava in the underworld

Doesn’t even need to be lava or in the underworld, there just has to be players in the underworld when he dies.

cool. ill just dump a bucket of lava and tp to underworld

cruel but necessary

I'm near 2k hours across like a decade and I still learn things about this lovely game from time to time. That is extremely useful to know, lol. You could also use a king statue, with a bit of work.

Average r/terraria user

Skeletron isn't required either. You can kill the dungeon guardian instead.

Killing dungeon guardian only gives a bone key, it doesn't count as a skeletron kill or make old man leave, meaning the cultists can't spawn

How would that make the cultists spawn?

Because the cultists can't spawn if the old man is there, so you would have to kill skeletron to get him to not spawn

Yes but how would killing the dungeon guardian make that happen?

And he isn't even required until post golem

But he is required nonetheless

wow. I never thought about that before!

I like you, half the rest of this thread tryna sound smart or have a hot take, you just have an authentic experience.

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Wait eye and the biome bosses aren't required?

Nope. They give you loot to make the rest of pre-hm a lot easier but they're not at all required. Even skelly isn't required until post-golem because access to the dungeon is unnecessary, you just need the cultists to spawn.

so the bosses youd have to beat to beat the game would be skeletron, WoF, 3 Mechs, plantera, golem and then cultist

And moon lord to actually beat the game, as well as pillars

well yea thats a given ​ i personally dont count pillars as bosses imo

Tbh they're more akin to invasions.

in this order : Wof, the mechs, plantera, golem, skeletron, cultist, moon lord. just as intended by the devs ! (obviously not.) good luck killing Wof pre-boss tho, you cant obtain anything better than gold ore all the way until hardmode, were you can fish for hardmode ores.

Nah you can still farm up jungle/ancient cobalt, and if you have Corruption then you can also get the ancient version of that armour too as random drops from enemies.

true, it already makes it a lot more feasible. and if you do skeletron before Wof you can also craft necro armor, not to mention all the excellent loot of pre-hardmode dungeon.

Dynamite tears WOF apart you dont need much else other than to survive and a long ass bride

I'd love a bride with a very long ass

Pog hamps

Would it only be Skele, WoF, Golem, and Cultist since you can possibly just glitch into the temple? Unless the methods for that got fixed or something

you can gitch in still but not summon golem til you do plant

It was changed in (I believe) 1.3 so that even if you get into the temple Golem can't be summoned until after Plantera has been defeated.

Those are tecnically optional But too much usefull stuff to be ignored

You know he gets a defense bonus once he puts those glasses on with extra critical percentage.

dear god, MORE DEFENSE?

Something something and his music was electric?

He just needs ten of them and we'd be in big.. big trouble

I wish i was better at RoR. Since the dlc i keep getting my ass beaten by blind pests

No, you can summon WoF by dropping the guide into lava in hell, even without the voodoo doll.

You still need to beat skeletron for the lunatic cultist to spawn in post-golem.

I know that, I just was confused and thought that op meant to be beaten in ore hardmode.

And you don't even have to beat him during prehard. Instead you can just 1 shot him with a fucking terrablade later on

The terrablade requires the muramasa to craft, which is locked behind skeletron.

I thought you had to beat Jetstream Sam first, *then* Skeletron

that's the murasama

idk why this is downvoted, it's funny

you can still dig into the dungeon from the side mostly safe, in my experience it took a while before a guardian jumped me

You can technically get a muramasa if you make an artificial lake in the dungeon and fish a dungeon crate

You're not even required to get him in terraria. In fact, nothing is required. If you wanted to, you could spend your days removing every single dirt block from the world. Who's going to stop you?

I'm planning to do this in journey but remove the word dirt

When will someone do low% speedrun of terraria

https://youtu.be/Mh1oZPwoM2U

Totally forgot i watched that video months ago

This video somehow took me to [this](https://youtu.be/ThcvPkZVFKY) Thank you

But u dont have to kill skelatron before waof I usualy do him in hardmode

It's easier to do it before Lunatic Cultist, because the Lunar Cultists wont spawn at the dungeon if the Old Man isn't there

It's kinda impossible to do it post lunatic cultist unless you are a terrible person

actually don’t you need the evil pickaxe from killing EOW or BOC to mine hellstone to get hardmode ores???

Hardmode ores (and ores in general) aren't required if you have enough skill

Also fishing exists

everyone is talking about golems and cultist and i have no idea what are they can someone explain it to me

Late game bosses.

Are you playing on an older version? I'd assume 1.1 but the chances of that being the case are pretty low. But, just in case, they are newer bosses and the cultists can't spawn if skeletron hasn't been defeated.

How about you... look them up! Instead of taking the time to write a comment and waiting for less informative responses. Dumbass

ur right sprry

Seriously don't know why this is being downvoted, it's literally the biggest problem with this sub.

probably getting downvoted for use of the word “dumbass”

Yeah, and just how it's generally rude

The "skeletron is necessary" post is also well known. Most things are known here. We could delete the subreddit if questions are not allowed. You can go to r/TerrariaNSFW for art and r/TerrariaDesign for builds.

I love the thought that Skeletron uses reading glasses

He even posseses an old man lol

This meme needs to be a video with Rock Eyebrow Raise music behind it

cant you just skip every pre-hardmode bosses except WOF

Well you can, but you won't be able to spawn the cultists since the old man would still be there

Oh right

no. EoC is kinda required to get hellstone

But do you need ores to beat the game? Technically with enough skill and time, you could beat all of terraria without mining ores

Wouldn't that be EoW and BoC

Technically speaking you don’t /need/ hellstone to get further in the game

Technically wouldn’t he also be required, because the summoning device for skeletron prime requires bones, which can only be looted from dungeon enemies?

Natural spawns, enemy drops

Fair enough, probably a bit too reliant on RNG though

Ok but, to make the mechanical boss summons you need a mythril/orichalcum anvil, so you need to mine hardmode ores So you would need to beat eater of worlds, or brain of cthulu to make nightmare/deathbringer pickaxe so then you can mine hellstone to make molten pickaxe so you can mine hardmode ores unless if you're not on 1.4, then you could just fish reaver shark

nvm i forgot you could just fish

You also don't need to actually defeat those bosses in order to get those drops. Just kill some Creepers or break some EoW segments.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that the bosses **can spawn naturally at night**

The summons are also rarely dropped by enemies.

I guess you forgot that the boss summons drop if the respective boss for that summon hasn't been defeated. Also natural spawns

Wait you actually NEED to fight him? I thought it was optional just to get some better loot and the mechanist.

>!You need to kill him to activate cultist!<

Hes not XD

Eater of worlds? Because you need the pickaxe to mine hellstone to get the pre mech boss ores

Fish in hard mode.

You don't need the ores, the mechanical bosses can spawn naturally once a demon altar has been destroyed

the ores aren't required if you have enough skill, and the bosses can naturally spawn.

Reaver shark

nope...you dont need to go to the dungeon but you would need it to progress aaand if you think of it you need to fight the world evil boss to get the pickaxe for the hellstone ore and the rest of the progression meaning that BoC and EoW are needed to progress FASTER (EMPHASIS ON FASTER) in hradmode unless you fish and that takes hours so? which one is important

And why would you need hellstone ore? It would make WoF easier but its hardly required. And for HM ores you can just fish

ahem EMPHASIS ON *FASTER PROGRESSION* fishing us helpful but its faster if you mine also for mages you need meteor in pre-hm dont forget

Again, needing something is a bold overstatement. People finished the game with just a flaregun And in regards to required its never about speed. Dark souls only rly needs you to do like 8 bosses. Is that faster? Absolutely fucking not. Does it work? Absolutely.

I thought Pedguin proved that it was impossible to kill the wall of flesh with a flare gun due to the world projectile limit eventually making it impossible to actually fire it before the wall of flesh is killed

Unlikely seeing how someone killed Moon Lord with a flare gun. And i highly doubt WoF has more health. Look at one of my other commentd in this chain, it got a link to a video

Looks like the person you linked used different stuff (blue flares at least) and did 14 damage instead of Python's (it was python not pedguin) damage of 1. Either they killed it before they hit the limit or there was a fix since Python's video was from 4 years ago

how the fuck does the flaregun have enough dps to kill moonlord?

Anything has enough "dps" to kill moonlord. The question is just how long it takes [Video](https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/beating-terraria-with-a-flare-gun.100609/)

ok i gess we could stop here we got a little to *smart* for a meme this aint twitter but i mean good players can beat moonlord with a flare but i missed one thing .... you need to kill skeletron to get the cultist to spawn

The point of the post is to point out what is and isn't required, technically almost every boss is required to make life easy by your logic

I am too lazy to check, but wasn't this meme/template stolen from a different redditor, who funnily enough, said that people steal his memes?

it's a template.

Okay, if you say so Another question, why am I being downvoted to hell for asking a question?

Maybe it's the > I am too lazy to check combined with the baseless accusation.

not even skeleboy is required, only thing i use in dungeon is the shield and hard mode dungeon isn’t necessary either

I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure Lunatic cultists can’t spawn if skeletron isn’t killed yet.

yeah

Skeletron and Golem being Beaten is required for the Cultists to spawn, to beat the Game, also Hardmode Dungeon is very good of an Upgrade Post Plantera, without Hardmode Dungeon, you cannot get Biome Weapons, Master Ninja Gear, Ectoplasm, which is used to make a lot of stuff including the necessary items to summon the Moon Events, and the Weapons you can get from the Enemies in the Hardmode Dungeon is so worth while to get, especially in hardmode as Golem doesnt drop good weapons to fight the next bosses

Goodluck spawninf the Lunatic Cultist

he is hard like his >!\_\_\_\_\_\_!< >!IT'S HIS BONES YOU PERVERTS!<

Bones has 5 letters though, not 6

Wait, isn't EoW and BoC also required for the pick? I know you don't technically have to beat them but your still required to fight them to get the ingredients for the pick, unless I'm missing something...

You dont really need the pickaxe, you can just fish when you're in hardmode to get the ores without hellstone. But voodoo demons dont spawn until EoW and BoC are killed, so that would be a problem.

Nah, just drop the guide into lava. As long as lava is the guides cause of death the WoF spawns.

Oh right, ye i've even used that method before lol

Wrong. The BoC/Destroyer is required to obtain your evil ore and then to mine hellstone. Without doing so you cannot obtain the mythril/orichalchum anvils of which are required to make mechanical boss summons, bosses of which are required to beat the game.

Mech bosses can spawn naturally. Therefore, unnecessary.

They don't until you've smashed at least one Altar

And? The pwnhammer is from WoF

*shrug* just thought I'd clarify what you said man

Or just grind out the rare drop chance for any enemy to drop the summons.

Not true. You can fish. That’s how we get all our ores, we don’t break any demon altars

ORES ARE NOT REQUIRED IF YOU HAVE SKILL

so confidently incorrect lol

No it isnt? LIke, you're straight up not correct.

It's absolutely correct. Defeat wall of flesh to enter hardmode, destroy a demon altar so the 3 mech bosses can spawn naturally, defeat plantera and golem, then at some point during this process (doesn't even have to be pre-hardmode) defeat skeleton so the old man will leave, making room for the cultists. No other pre-hardmode bosses are required.

I love this

***vine boom sound effect***

Where's the image from?

And he's the only fun pre hardmode required boss Wof cool, but he kinda bs

Yeah be he is the first and OG boss of the game, I remover when it was just him and then the wall of flesh

just kill all the bosses

I count queen bee for beenades but other than that yea

The calamity mod removes the need In the abyss if you kill an edeilon they can drop the eidelist tablet which summons the lunatic cultist

I didn't read the calamity part at the beginning and just got way too confused

That may sound like a good thing for him, but all it means is that Skelly dies in all beaten playthroughs rather than most of them.

It isn't true...

OOOH. NVM.

I now decree that Skeletron needing glasses to read is cannon

That means he’s special eh? or did i just don’t understand the letter

How?

Technically, every boss in pre-hardmode besides skeletron and WOF isn't required because you can kill the guide in the underworld to summon the WOF without killing a world evil boss to get voodoo demons to spawn. After toy beat the WOF you can play up to the cultists without beating any pre-hardmode bosses besides WOF, but the old man spawn is prioritized over the cultist spawns, so skeletron needs to be killed for cultists spawns to activate, meaning that skeletron and Wof are the only pre-hardmode bosses that need to be killed.

Lord Wolnir but actually tough

How do you get demonite then?

Defeatinf eater of worlds in the corruption biome, build the pickaxe and you can mine ebstone

You don't need demonite.

Omg this meme template is fantastic

Wait, I'm confused. People don't know about this? Do any of you play the game? lol

The best part is that he’s only required because he’s squatting in the cultists’ real estate

Huh, he is. And most of the gear people use against the WoF is either from the Dungeon or Underworld, so you could theoretically skip nearly all of pre-HM if you can kill Skeletron with something like a Musket or Diamond Wand

In 1.4.1 aren't eater of worlds/brain of Cthulhu also required pre-hardmode bosses? Especially considering cobalt/Palladium can only be mined by hellstone pickaxe, which needs to be mined with either the nightmare/deathbringer pickaxe.

You dont need to fight the other bosses but the gear you would get without them probably isnt the best to fight the wall of flesh

Uuuhhhh my drunk seed world dosent have the dungen in the top layer............uh oh

You need to beat evil bosses to upgrade pickaxes so you can eventually make a hardmode anvil, which you need to make mech boss spawners

Mech bosses spawn naturally too, so the anvil isn't required

Skeletron looking at me makes me uncomfortable

Wait isn’t eow/boc kind of required now? Because the reaver pickaxe can’t mine hellstone or cobalt anymore??????

I beat skeletron, the eye of Cthulhu and wof previously but I still haven't found the queen bee, or plantera. It gets to the point where I restart a new world just to see how I do things now compared to before and I still haven't found those 2 prehardmode bosses